Quoting Quiverfull: Marry Your Rapist Unless Your Father Says No?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from his blog True Love Doesn't Wait - Deal BreakersThis posting involves the reasons that fathers really shouldn't be refusing various courtship/betrothal suitors. The bit we're quoting below I've heard various pastors describe mostly as a rape situation (like in Deuteronomy 22:28-29), though a few has said it speaks of a man seducing a young woman. Like everything in the Old Testament it seems to be open to interpretation.  … [Read more...]

The Ten Men

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by Vyckie Garrison of No Longer QuiveringI seriously need to stop reading the writings of contemporary Patriarchs ... I thought the Persevero News article that I posted earlier today which defends child abusers was bad (and it is!), but Vaughn Ohlman's latest is equally infuriating!! … [Read more...]

The Intellectual Honesty of Betrothal

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by The GraduateThe Intellectual Honesty of BetrothalRecently, a lot of news has been made about the betrothal announcement between Joshua Ohlman and Laura Camp, who became “betrothed” or engaged at their parents’ wishes after two hours of knowing each other.   Vaughn Ohlman runs “True Love Doesn’t Wait,” a website dedicated to advocating early marriage with no involvement on the part of those actually to be married, save signing rather long “marriage” contracts.If there is one thing I must grant to Vaughn, it’s this:  He at least accepts the logical conclusions of his beliefs, whereas Vision Forum, ATI, and others, try to soften the inevitable conclusions of where their worldvie … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Defrauding Your (Future) Spouse?

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Von Ohlman at True Love Doesn't Wait - Defrauding Your (Future) SpouseOne of the most misunderstood words in the whole Betrothal/Courtship/Dating discussion is the word ‘defraud’. We have all grown up with a system (dating) that promotes something as a virtue that many of us are beginning to understand is a sin: the pre-covenantal romantic relationship between a boy and a girl. … [Read more...]


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