First Japan, Now The Daily Show

Over $32,000 was raised by the Pagan community for Doctors Without Borders relief efforts in Japan and donations are still trickling in. That’s amazing. It’s proof-positive that despite our differences, Pagans can work together to create positive change in the world.

Which is why I have no doubt that we can accomplish another worthwhile goal: getting Jason Pitzl-Waters of The Wild Hunt on The Daily Show to provide a different perspective on David Barton and the challenges facing minority religions in this country.

They smirk because they care.

What’s up with Barton? Well, he was just on The Daily Show where he broke the Christian commandment regarding false witness enough that I expected lightning to fall from the sky upon him. Instead of giving straight answers he would spin until at points it was difficult to follow his intentionally obfuscating logic.

Why the oratorical gymnastics? Because he’s following rule #7 on the Evil Overlord List, in which you never explain your plan to your enemy, and his enemy is anyone who might vote against the candidates he supports. He made it clear on The Daily Show his influence in politics is both pervasive and secretive, and one potential 2012 presidential candidate thinks we should be forced to listen to Barton at gunpoint.

So what does he have to say that’s so bad? Well, he believes that despite what the Constitution and other official documents say, this is an explicitly Christian nation and was founded to be so. He gets this information from all the letters, notes, debates and ideas the Founding Fathers had and then rejected in favor of the Constitution. It’s like saying that you should judge a novelist not by the novels they write, but by the ideas they goof around with on Twitter.

He also thinks that if the Founding Fathers didn’t envision it, it’s not Constitutionally protected! The most shocking claim lay in an amicus brief Barton filed in the fight against creating a two-tier class system of religious rights in CA:

The true historic meaning of “religion” excludes paganism and witchcraft, and thus, does not compel a conclusion that McCollum has state taxpayer standing … paganism and witchcraft were never intended to receive the protections of the Religion Clauses. Thus, in the present case there can be no violation of those clauses … Should this Court conclude that McCollum has taxpayer standing … this Court should at least acknowledge that its conclusion is compelled by Supreme Court precedent, not by history or the intent of the Framers.”

There are two problems with this argument:

1. He is defining religion as “being like Christianity” which is a false position considering the relative newness of monotheism to civilization. It’s like saying coffee is a beverage and if your beverage isn’t like coffee it has no business being in a cup.

2. He is saying that anything the Founding Father’s couldn’t specifically foresee and intend is unconstitutional, which means Mormons, Christian Scientists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Emergent Christianity, Ba’hai, Hare Krishnas, the Internet, NASA, RuPaul and automaker bailouts are completely without any protections under US law. I’m pretty sure Jefferson and Washington didn’t envision a Black President, so that’s probably un-Constitutional too.

Why Jason? Well, The Wild Hunt is the “CNN of Paganism” you know! Because Jason has not only been covering Barton for a long time, but he’s also very aware of all the myriad issues and court cases various minority religions are involved in around the country. He’s good at speaking about Paganism and Pagan religions from a broad inclusive perspective, and as someone who’s been to his talks I can assure you he’s very personable, eloquent and funny. He can hold his own with Jon and isn’t likely to show up in pink hair and gypsy skirts like this one blogger I know…

Jason as a journalist specializing in minority religions is the perfect person to say “This is BS, because I’ve been reporting on Barton and this is what he is actually up to.

What can we do to help? Well the goods news is that accomplishing this goal only takes a bit of your time. Tell your friends about the campaign, Facebook it and Tweet it, Like the Facebook campaign page and write The Daily Show. Be persistent. Devote a couple minutes each day to getting the word out. Comment on the FB page for The Daily Show and send them tweets.

If we can send tens of thousands of dollars to aid people ravaged by natural disaster, we can get Jason on The Daily Show. If we can get Jason on The Daily Show, then there’s really nothing we can’t do when we work together.

About Star Foster

Polytheistic Wiccan initiated into the Ravenwood tradition, she has many opinions. Some of them are actually useful.

  • Sunweaver

    It’s funny how so much of this would not have been possible even ten years ago. We’re moving up in the world, I think. I completely support a well-spoken representative of Paganism who is going to present our unique issues and challenges to the world in an honest and straightforward way.

    May the blessings of Hermes the eloquent fall upon this endeavor.

  • Sunweaver

    It’s funny how so much of this would not have been possible even ten years ago. We’re moving up in the world, I think. I completely support a well-spoken representative of Paganism who is going to present our unique issues and challenges to the world in an honest and straightforward way.

    May the blessings of Hermes the eloquent fall upon this endeavor.

  • NorseAlchemist

    It would be nice to see a Pagan get up there and counter Barton. I’m not sure about Jason though. Not that I have anything against the man personally, I’ve just had dealings with him over on the Wild Hunt that, well, were none to friendly towards me. I’ll leave it up to others to decide why and what reasons there were for that, beyond just different political views. That said, he is probably one of our best choices, and the most informed about the situation with Barton. As you say, he is the CNN of Paganism, for good or ill. Now we just need a “Fox News” of Paganism and we can get a more balanced view by having both of them working in concert.

    I’m still not sure about how constitutional the whole auto-bailout stuff was, but that’s a different matter all together. Just because it isn’t in the Constitution doesn’t mean it isn’t legal. I do think Jefferson could have envisioned a black president. The man was an alchemist and a very smart customer.

    Kudos on the twitter and evil overlord list.

    • Ananta Androscoggin

      Jefferson is one of the Americans whom Barton the Dentist’s newly re-written school text books for history has eliminated.

      As to your differences with Jason, I don’t think the problem is so very much him, as you were one of my biggest reasons for forbidding myself to ever look at the comments on any articles on the Wild Hunt ever again.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lamyka-L/649965363 Lamyka L.

         I can’t stop laughing at “Barton the Dentist”. Oh, Ananta… we’ve got to catch up sometime! I know the PPP loves you :-)

      • NorseAlchemist

        I’m sorry you feel that way Ananta. I’m willing to give that the issue is probably because of both Jason and I, but I don’t see how either of us is solely responsible.

  • NorseAlchemist

    It would be nice to see a Pagan get up there and counter Barton. I’m not sure about Jason though. Not that I have anything against the man personally, I’ve just had dealings with him over on the Wild Hunt that, well, were none to friendly towards me. I’ll leave it up to others to decide why and what reasons there were for that, beyond just different political views. That said, he is probably one of our best choices, and the most informed about the situation with Barton. As you say, he is the CNN of Paganism, for good or ill. Now we just need a “Fox News” of Paganism and we can get a more balanced view by having both of them working in concert.

    I’m still not sure about how constitutional the whole auto-bailout stuff was, but that’s a different matter all together. Just because it isn’t in the Constitution doesn’t mean it isn’t legal. I do think Jefferson could have envisioned a black president. The man was an alchemist and a very smart customer.

    Kudos on the twitter and evil overlord list.

    • Ananta Androscoggin

      Jefferson is one of the Americans whom Barton the Dentist’s newly re-written school text books for history has eliminated.

      As to your differences with Jason, I don’t think the problem is so very much him, as you were one of my biggest reasons for forbidding myself to ever look at the comments on any articles on the Wild Hunt ever again.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lamyka-L/649965363 Lamyka L.

         I can’t stop laughing at “Barton the Dentist”. Oh, Ananta… we’ve got to catch up sometime! I know the PPP loves you :-)

      • NorseAlchemist

        I’m sorry you feel that way Ananta. I’m willing to give that the issue is probably because of both Jason and I, but I don’t see how either of us is solely responsible.

  • Ananta Androscoggin

    Lets start a habit of referring to this perjurer as “that Texas dentist, David Barton,” because he is in no way, shape, or form any kind of real historian, and letting people keep calling him one just keeps the BS flowing and the confusion inspiring fools to believe him.

  • Ananta Androscoggin

    Lets start a habit of referring to this perjurer as “that Texas dentist, David Barton,” because he is in no way, shape, or form any kind of real historian, and letting people keep calling him one just keeps the BS flowing and the confusion inspiring fools to believe him.

  • http://lifencompass.com Scott @ Lifencompass

    *hackles up*
    *guttural noises*

    Thoroughly “liked” and I will make mention elsewhere. 

  • Anonymous

    *hackles up*
    *guttural noises*

    Thoroughly “liked” and I will make mention elsewhere. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PMTLR3IIGKPHZ2YNU3PDXWK4WA Kenneth

    Is there some reason everything “must be approved by a moderator” now?

    • http://www.patheos.com/ Star Foster

       Had some problems with inappropriate comments. I’ll change it back in a few days.

      • http://twitter.com/Fernwise Fern Miller

         I always leave MY inappropriate comments on Twitter or Facebook…..

        • http://www.patheos.com/ Star Foster

           Not your lovely brand of snark, but death wishes, personal attacks and things of that ilk.

          • Sunweaver

            Oh dear! That’s no good. I suppose this is part of the inherent risk in a) being on the internet and b) being Pagan and out. –Not that I’m going to stop, mind you. These kinds of shenanigans only encourage me to be out, proud, and an example of good manners.

          • AprilAyers

             Well, that’s not good at all.  I have to say, Star, I actually started reading your blogs thanks to Jason at the Wild Hunt, and I think you thoroughly kick butt. :D  Not only are you eloquent, savvy, and intelligent, your hair is awesome. ^_^  Had to throw that in there.  But, I’m sharing this campaign, and trying to get the word out.  I agree on the choice of Jason, not just from a journalistic stand-point.  We have a number of intelligent, articulate folk in the pagan community, just not enough who have been nose-to-the-ground reporting. ;)

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PMTLR3IIGKPHZ2YNU3PDXWK4WA Kenneth

            50 cents says it was fallout from the Scientology bit. That topic is a real IED. You get it from all sides with that one. The former members who now hate it, the current ones who are ready to tear into anyone they consider “suppressive.”  The whole dynamic has about as much room for humor as the abortion issue…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PMTLR3IIGKPHZ2YNU3PDXWK4WA Kenneth

    Is there some reason everything “must be approved by a moderator” now?

    • http://www.patheos.com Star Foster

       Had some problems with inappropriate comments. I’ll change it back in a few days.

      • http://twitter.com/Fernwise Fern Miller

         I always leave MY inappropriate comments on Twitter or Facebook…..

        • http://www.patheos.com Star Foster

           Not your lovely brand of snark, but death wishes, personal attacks and things of that ilk.

          • Sunweaver

            Oh dear! That’s no good. I suppose this is part of the inherent risk in a) being on the internet and b) being Pagan and out. –Not that I’m going to stop, mind you. These kinds of shenanigans only encourage me to be out, proud, and an example of good manners.

          • http://www.facebook.com/womanbei April Ayers

             Well, that’s not good at all.  I have to say, Star, I actually started reading your blogs thanks to Jason at the Wild Hunt, and I think you thoroughly kick butt. :D  Not only are you eloquent, savvy, and intelligent, your hair is awesome. ^_^  Had to throw that in there.  But, I’m sharing this campaign, and trying to get the word out.  I agree on the choice of Jason, not just from a journalistic stand-point.  We have a number of intelligent, articulate folk in the pagan community, just not enough who have been nose-to-the-ground reporting. ;)

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PMTLR3IIGKPHZ2YNU3PDXWK4WA Kenneth

            50 cents says it was fallout from the Scientology bit. That topic is a real IED. You get it from all sides with that one. The former members who now hate it, the current ones who are ready to tear into anyone they consider “suppressive.”  The whole dynamic has about as much room for humor as the abortion issue…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=667636568 Rayma Smith

    I think you have gotten the ball rolling on something that can potentially be a huge boon to Pagans all over this country and then some. It’s crazy that a dentist with some opinions on history, quite obviously slanted towards his Christian agenda, would be afforded a platform from which to spew his bigotry and hatred. I hope The Daily Show invited Jason on the show, it’d be pretty awesome. :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1066316113 Jocelyne Berengaria Houghton

      ANTI-DENTITE!!!

      (Sorry, I just couldn’t resist)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=667636568 Rayma Smith

    I think you have gotten the ball rolling on something that can potentially be a huge boon to Pagans all over this country and then some. It’s crazy that a dentist with some opinions on history, quite obviously slanted towards his Christian agenda, would be afforded a platform from which to spew his bigotry and hatred. I hope The Daily Show invited Jason on the show, it’d be pretty awesome. :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1066316113 Jocelyne Berengaria Houghton

      ANTI-DENTITE!!!

      (Sorry, I just couldn’t resist)


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