Two of My Former Colleagues Duke it Out Over Tranny

I couldn’t make this stuff up.

Judge Bill Graves, former member of the Oklahoma House of Representatives, has issued a ruling that is being appealed by the Oklahoma ACLU whose director is Ryan Kiesal, another former member of the Oklahoma House of Representatives.

I know both these men well. They are both take-no-prisoners advocates for their decidedly oppositional positions in the culture wars. Judge Graves served in the Oklahoma House from 1978 to 2004 with a two-year hiatus to run for another office. Ryan Kiesel served from 2004 to 2008 when he left to move on with his career.

My husband likes to tease Judge Graves by calling him “Mainstream.” Judge Graves may be somewhat to the right of Attila the Hun, but he has a good sense of humor and doesn’t take offense, even when, as is not the case with my husband, offense is intended.

Ryan Kiesel, back when he was in office, was the vice chair of the Oklahoma House of Representatives Democratic Caucus. While he was in that position, he used to yell (and I mean YELL) at me several times a month, telling me to GET OUT of the Democratic Party, mainly for being pro life. He’s a decent guy, loves his wife and baby and is deeply sincere about his beliefs. He just has trouble understanding where he leaves off and other people with their varying ideas begin.

If I had a flat tire on the side of the road, either one of these two men would stop and help me. Or at least Ryan would stop and help me if he didn’t recognize that it was me.

It seems that Mainstream … er … Judge Graves had a case before him having something or other to do with a transvestite/transexual who wanted to change his/her name to something else because of a “transition from male to female.” According to a Daily Oklahoman news story, Judge Graves told this person “you can’t change what God gave you.” Whereupon, Ryan Kiesel and the Oklahoma ACLU rode in on their white horse and filed an appeal against Judge Graves.

Since I know all the players in this little drama (with the exception of the name-changing transvestite/transexual, who has my sympathy) it has the quality of a farcical playlet for me. I can’t stop laughing as I type this.

I don’t know if you’ll enjoy it as much as I do, but if you are interested, here’s a bit of the resulting news story for your fun and amazement.

The Oklahoman’s Watchdog Team: Looking out for you.

ACLU files appeal of Oklahoma judge’s order denying name change

The American Civil Liberties Union of Oklahoma on Thursday appealed a judge’s decision that denied a name change.

By Nolan Clay | Published: September 28, 2012 1
The American Civil Liberties Union of Oklahoma on Thursday appealed a judge’s

refusal to let an Oklahoma City man planning on a sex change to have a feminine name.

The ACLU filed the appeal at the Oklahoma Supreme Court.

Oklahoma County District Judge Bill Graves on Aug. 30 refused to let James Dean Ingram, 29, of Oklahoma City, have the name Angela Renee Ingram.

Ingram told the judge in a petition the reason for the name change request was “transition from male to female.” Ingram said the judge stated, “You can’t change what God gave you.”

Ingram wants to have sex-change surgery. Ingram already dresses in women’s clothes, has a purse, is seeing a therapist and is taking hormones.

“A person’s name is a fundamental part of their identity, and it is indefensible for a judge to rob someone of their legal right choose their own name,” said Ryan Kiesel, executive director of the ACLU of Oklahoma. “Judge Graves’ persistent imposition of his own value system in place of the law and his denial of our client’s right to have the name of her choice is an injustice we are determined to right.”

Three advocacy groups, Oklahomans for Equality, Cimarron Alliance and The Equality Network, issued a news release Thursday strongly supporting the appeal. (Read more here.)

  • http://jscafenette.com Manny

    Haha, what a good story. As somone perhaps almost to the right of Attila, you would think I would be sympathetic to the judge on this. However, I think anyone should have the right to change their name for whatever reason they want. However, if a referendum to outlaw sex changes were on the ballot, I would support that. I do not believe there is a medical reason for sex changes. Whatever is going on in their minds that makes transexuals think they are the opposite sex is not a medical reason to perform an operation.

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      I am going to recuse myself on this one. :-)

  • http://nebraskaenergyobserver.wordpress.com neenergyobserver

    LOL, These stories, although serious, take on a lot of comedic aspects when you know the layers, and yes, Attila the Hun was a left winger. :-)

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      :-)

  • Mary

    If YOUR child or grandchild was born with BOTH male and female sexual organs, would you think it was funny? What name should be given to such a child? There is a book called “Brain Sex” which may change your mind on this and related gender issues which explains (with medical footnotes) why the medical community does what it does for these poor people…God never makes mistakes but Mother Nature does…I see the variety of gender identity problems as birth defects and cringe when I hear people laughing about it…please don’t!!!

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      Mary, I’m not making fun of the person who was trying to get their name changed. That person has my full sympathy. I AM poking fun at my two erstwhile colleagues and their shenanigans.

    • Ted Seeber

      Brain Sex has been debunked by the very children who were test cases in the book.


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