David Green, Hobby Lobby CEO, Explains HHS Lawsuit

David Green, CEO and founder of Hobby Lobby Stores, issued a statement yesterday concerning the lawsuit Hobby Lobby, Inc filed against the HHS Mandate. I thought you might find it edifying to read. The source for this article is Charisma News. Check it out for similar stories.

Hobby Lobby CEO: Christian Companies Can’t

Bow to Sinful Mandate

David Green

David and Barbara Green

When my family and I started our company 40 years ago, we were working out of a garage on a $600 bank loan, assembling miniature picture frames. Our first retail store wasn’t much bigger than most people’s living rooms, but we had faith that we would succeed if we lived and worked according to God’s Word. From there, Hobby Lobby has become one of the nation’s largest arts and crafts retailers, with more than 500 locations in 41 states. Our children grew up into fine business leaders, and today we run Hobby Lobby together, as a family.

We’re Christians, and we run our business on Christian principles. I’ve always said that the first two goals of our business are (1) to run our business in harmony with God’s laws, and (2) to focus on people more than money. And that’s what we’ve tried to do. We close early so our employees can see their families at night. We keep our stores closed on Sundays, one of the week’s biggest shopping days, so that our workers and their families can enjoy a day of rest. We believe that it is by God’s grace that Hobby Lobby has endured, and he has blessed us and our employees. We’ve not only added jobs in a weak economy, we’ve raised wages for the past four years in a row. Our full-time employees start at 80 percent above minimum wage.

But now, our government threatens to change all of that. A new government healthcare mandate says that our family business must provide what I believe are abortion-causing drugs as part of our health insurance. Being Christians, we don’t pay for drugs that might cause abortions. Which means that we don’t cover emergency contraception, the morning-after pill or the week-after pill. We believe doing so might end a life after the moment of conception, something that is contrary to our most important beliefs. It goes against the biblical principles on which we have run this company since day one. If we refuse to comply, we could face $1.3 million per day in government fines.

Our government threatens to fine job creators in a bad economy. Our government threatens to fine a company that’s raised wages four years running. Our government threatens to fine a family for running its business according to its beliefs. It’s not right.

I know people will say we ought to follow the rules; that it’s the same for everybody. But that’s not true. The government has exempted thousands of companies from this mandate, for reasons of convenience or cost. But it won’t exempt them for reasons of religious belief. So, Hobby Lobby—and my family—are forced to make a choice. With great reluctance, we filed a lawsuit, represented by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, asking a federal court to stop this mandate before it hurts our business. We don’t like to go running into court, but we no longer have a choice. We believe people are more important than the bottom line and that honoring God is more important than turning a profit.

My family has lived the American dream. We want to continue growing our company and providing great jobs for thousands of employees, but the government is going to make that much more difficult. The government is forcing us to choose between following our faith and following the law. I say that’s a choice no American—and no American business—should have to make.

David Green is the CEO and founder of Hobby Lobby Stores.

 

  • http://fpb.livejournal.com/ Fabio P.Barbieri

    One man with justice on his side is stronger than an army.
    ” But thou seest
    All are not of thy train; there be, who faith
    Prefer, and piety to God, though then
    To thee not visible, when I alone
    Seemed in thy world erroneous to dissent
    From all: My sect thou seest; now learn too late
    How few sometimes may know, when thousands err….”
    (Paradise Lost, 5.142-148)

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      Thank you Fabio. These ate great quotes.

  • FW Ken

    As good was it is that the bishops involve the corporate church structures in the fight, its really good that individuals bear witness to the faith this way. In every time and place, Caesar demands his pinch of incense; the more resistance, the more chance we have to prevail.

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      True. I hope all Christians stop cooperating with these attacks. They can’t do it if we all just refuse. There are too many of us.

  • Arkenaten

    Good for him. Stand up for his priciples
    I wonder, however, what his company’s policy is, has been, towards employing women who regulary used what he considers to be “abortion -causing drugs” before the new HHS mandate?
    Of course, assertaining which women were using such drugs might constitute an infringement of their human rights as the only way to find out would be to ask,
    Don’t think that would go down too well, do you?

    And how much of these ‘Chrisitian Principles’ are called upon in every area of contraception? Or does he believe condoms for instance are not abortifaciants ?
    (I don’t, but some hardliners would consider their use a ‘sin’.)

    To paraphrase someone who didn’t have to worry about ‘Interpretation’, oh, yes indeed: ’tis hard to kick against the pricks, is it not?

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      It’s against the law to ask those questions in a job interview in this country, Douglas. I have never heard of anyone even trying. What about a militant secularist who refused to hire someone bec of their faith in Christ? I’ve heard open discussions among people in California (San Francisco) about trying to get someone fired if they could prove they were a christian fundamentalist. Mind you, they were mad about something else and were seeking proof of this to get at them. How do you feel about that?

      • Arkenaten

        I would have, and never had had, any qualms hiring anyone who was religious, providing they accepted the terms and conditions of employment why should I care what god they worshipped providing it did not affect their work.

    • http://ackans.com Mr. V.

      Arkenaten,

      in answer to your comment about David Green hiring women who use abortion-causing drugs, I would say this: It’s probably a non-issue.

      No employer, Christian or not, would ask about such a personal subject. That’s the employee’s business. In any case, even if somehow he knew that, like if he overheard an employee talking about using such a drug, again, I think it would be a non-issue. Just because a Christian stands up for his beliefs, and refuses to act against his beliefs, that doesn’t mean he’s out to control other people’s lives.

      What David Green is saying is that he won’t participate in providing for abortions. He won’t give one cent towards paying for abortions or promoting them. And that should be his right. I don’t think he would fire an employee who had an abortion, or refuse to hire someone because either they had an abortion or were planning on having one. But they will have to go elsewhere to get it, because he won’t help them do so.

      • Arkenaten

        I understand, of course.
        I was merely curious how far his Christian principles went, that’s all.
        So while he most certainly is obliged to abide by labour law when it comes to hiring and firing, irrespective of how he feels personally about his staff using such drugs, and while he has no qualms using their labour even though some of the women may be tacitly involved in murder, he believes he is in his right, based on conscience, to withhold any funds to aid and abett the supposed murder of innocents.
        All perfectly clear.
        I notice the side issue of condoms was neatly sidestepped.

        • Rebecca Hamilton

          Douglas every single thing you say in this is a baseless assumption and an accusation based on a baseless assumption. There is not one fact in it.

          • Arkenaten

            Really? Oh well….I leave the interpretation of Scripture to you guys then.
            But please, just clear up this point, though. Are you saying that abortion is or is not murder?

            • http://fpb.livejournal.com/ Fabio P.Barbieri

              You are, once again, asking us whether we have stopped beating our wives (or husbands) yet. When will you learn that this is not a valid way to argue, and only shows you to be a bigot? Christians are taught practically from the cradle to worry about their own sins rather than anyone else’s. The mote and the beam are images very present in the minds of any Christian. The last thing a Christian with the least understanding of his/her faith would do would be to go and cross-question an employee to see whether they are perfect in their lives and opinions; that may be the job of a priest in the confessional or of a spiritual guide chosen by people on retreat or by members of a movement, but never that of an ordinary Christian in an ordinary setting. That does not mean, of course, that if sin and murder actually strike you in the face, you are supposed to be silent about it. To the contrary, anyone who is silent about such things when the situation requires that he speaks out is a Cain, the murderer of his brother. It was Cain who first asked, “Am I supposed to be the guardian of my brother?” And the story supplies the answer: the man who claims not to be his brother’s guardian is his brother’s murderer. So: don’t go prying into others’ lives, because nobody died and made you God (well, Somebody did something pretty close, but you are nowhere near deification yet); but don’t be silent when you see sin in front of you, because you know enough about sin to know that it is wrong, and therefore it is your responsibility to protest. Is that clear enough, or have you got some further sophistry to prolong this thread?

              • Arkenaten

                You posts are never concise, Fabio.
                Try to get to the point will you?
                Liked this bit though,
                ” (well, Somebody did something pretty close, but you are nowhere near deification yet);”
                I agree…not yet. ‘Winks’
                Loved your Milton snippet by the way. Wasn’t he such a cool poet?

                • http://fpb.livejournal.com/ Fabio P.Barbieri

                  There may have been a time when conciseness went with clarity. Today it goes with politician’s lies, sloganeering and factoids. I would rather be clear than concise, if the choice arises.

              • Arkenaten

                You could have stopped at ‘Yes’, Fabio, this was the only answer I asked for. If I’d wanted a sermon I would have said, okay? Excellent!

                • http://fpb.livejournal.com/ Fabio P.Barbieri

                  Excuse me, where did you get the impression that you may make demands about the form, length, content, style, or indeed about any feature of my comments? Rebecca may; this is her blog. You are a guest, and this is plain bad manners.

              • Arkenaten

                I do not adhere to the notion of ‘sin’ it is a religous concept.

                • Ted Seeber

                  Do you adhere to the notion of a crime?

                  Here’s my definition of rape. I don’t expect you to believe it, just to acknowledge that it is a rational definition from a certain set of assumptions.

                  Rape is using another person for sex without regard to their well being or future.

                  Can you see, rationally from that definition and without respect to religion at all, how contraception (and other sexual immorality) might be considered rape?

              • Arkenaten

                @Fabio.

                “Excuse me, where did you get the impression that you may make demands about the form, length, content, style, or indeed about any feature of my comments? Rebecca may; this is her blog. You are a guest, and this is plain bad manners.”

                Oh, dear. Here we go again with the ‘demand’ story.
                I did not “demand” anything. You may write a whole treatise if it makes you feels better. I merely made a suggestion that you could of stopped after telling me ‘Yes’. I was trying to be nice as I didn’t think it was necessary that you had to go to all that trouble of writing such a long-winded explanation on my account.
                You see, I struggle with such detailed, comprehensive and eloquent writing. Whereas your erudite prose are like a Beef Fillet, marinated in a well-rounded 1980 Zonnebloem cabernet sauvignon, I am more a cheese sandwich sort of bloke, know what I mean, Fabio?
                So I apologise, once again. You write away my old son. Get it off your chest.
                No problem. :)

            • Rebecca Hamilton

              This has nothing to do with interpretation of scriptures. You made enough assumptions without fact to sink a boat about David Green, his hiring practices and his beliefs. Almost everything you said was a confabulation.

              • Arkenaten

                Okay….Let me use an analogy.
                If I were an out and out Pacificst would you consider me a hypocrite if I willingly associated with and or employed those in favour of war?

                Oh, the question about abortion being murder, yes or no?

                • http://fpb.livejournal.com/ Fabio P.Barbieri

                  Of course abortion is murder. Now if you have committed such an act and knowingly take employment with someone who regards it in that light, you are taking your chances. You can and will hear things you don’t want to hear. You can and will live with people who would regard your deed, though not your self, with abhorrence. (“Hate the sin, love the sinner.”) In my experience, the problem does not arise, because convinced abortion supporters and performers shun any Christian society like the plague. I have been friends with Fascists, Communists, atheists, Muslims and Ayn Randites, but the only friendship I ever managed to build with a supporter of “a woman’s right to choose” died on that reef, when a friend of hers said that Catholic should not be allowed to breed, and she refused to see anything offensive about that. Christian employer, abortionist employee? It won’t happen, and if it happens it won’t last. The Christian might put up with the abortionist, but the abortionist never will put up with the Christian.

              • Arkenaten

                “Of course abortion is murder.”

                Then why are pro lifers not lobbying their representatives and congressmen, women to ensure those who are complicit are brought to justice and punished accordingly?
                In a toss up betweem your god’s law and man’s law your god wins hands down, am I correct?
                If you are all quite prepared to challenge the HHS mandate then surely it is incumbant upon you to legally challenge the legality of the cause?
                And I reiterate, call for the arrest and trial of every single individual involved in abortion.
                If this seems a steep hill to climb at first then why not push for anti condom legislation?
                Come on, Fabio, as the vernacular goes, let’s see you step up to the plate and put your money where your mouth is.

                • Ted Seeber

                  “Then why are pro lifers not lobbying their representatives and congressmen, women to ensure those who are complicit are brought to justice and punished accordingly?”

                  We are. If you haven’t noticed, that’s what you’ve been objecting to.

                • http://creativefidelity.wordpress.com Dan F.

                  What Ted said.

        • Jeez

          Condoms are not abortifacients. The goal in using a condom is to prevent conception, not disable the embryo from implanting in the uterus as many types of the pill do (by thinning out the uteran wall) after conception has taken place.

          Mr. Green doesn’t give his opinion on the use of condoms because the topic here is providing his company’s funds for the destruction of a human life. I would think this is a reasonable request of anyone. I know many people who believe abortion is perfectly fine, who believe using birth control pills is fine and using the morning after pill is perfectly fine – but none of them believe they should have to pay for it.

          Wondering about his thoughts on the use of condoms, and if his employees use condoms, is off topic. Either you believe those with religious objections should be forced to pay for the birth control and abortions of others or you take what is said at face value – that they don’t want to have this blood on their hands.

    • Ted Seeber

      I consider the use of contraceptives to be rape. A crime, not a sin.

      • Arkenaten

        Well, good for you, Ted. I am stunned. I don’t know how you figure this to be rape, but good for you anyway.

      • Arkenaten

        “Then why are pro lifers not lobbying their representatives and congressmen, women to ensure those who are complicit are brought to justice and punished accordingly?”

        “We are. If you haven’t noticed, that’s what you’ve been objecting to.”

        I meant, the women who use abortificiants as well as the medical professionals.

      • Arkenaten

        @ Ted.
        Here you go, Ted. This should make you beam from ear to ear.

        “Starting in the 7th century CE, a series of penitentials were written in the West. These listed an array of sins, with the penance that a person must observe as punishment for the sin. Certain “sins” which prevented conception had particularly heavy penalties.
        Abortion, on the other hand, required a less serious penance. Theodore, who organized the English church, assembled a penitential about 700 CE. Oral intercourse required from 7 years to a lifetime of penance; an abortion required only 120 days.”
        http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_hist.htm

        • http://ackans.com Mr. V.

          Interesting. I went and looked at the link in your comment. Two questions; when it says that a series of penitentials were written, I would ask by who? Where? For whom?

          Secondly, what’s the source for this information? Regardless of the religious affiliation or not of the writer, you know as well as I do that the Internet is a font of a great deal of faulty information. Before I can accept what was written there and which you quoted, I need to know where it came from originally. More info, please. And lest you object, you know you would not accept such a statement from my end unless I could document the source of my information.

        • Rebecca Hamilton

          Douglas, I believe you could start a fight over whether or not the sun is going to come up in the east or the west tomorrow morning.
          7th century penitentials?????
          puh-leeezzzz.

          • Arkenaten

            Hey, I just read this stuff. If it’s not true, it’s not my fault. Tell me it’s all lies. What do I know right? You’re the Catholic.
            That Anglo Saxon site showing Theodores work looks pretty genuine to me.’
            And the Catholic encyclopaedia seem to know who he was.
            What do you think, Rebecca?
            I reckon the sun will probably come up in the east,btw
            Although that Pope who put Galileo under house arrest might have disagreed, eh?
            And you took down mt reply to MrV. Now how is the poor man ging to research all those penititant sites? He wont know if he’s sinning now.
            ‘Wink”

          • Arkenaten

            I will add that the rest of the page concerning abortion is very comprehensive, even including the Didache, which you do acknowledge and agree wholeheartedly with if I’m not mistaken, so why would you turn your nose up at 7th century penitentials which are remarked upon a few paragraphs later?
            Of course, must be a conspiracy, right?

          • Arkenaten

            Douglas, I believe you could start a fight over whether or not the sun is going to come up in the east or the west tomorrow morning.
            7th century penitentials?????
            puh-leeezzzz.

            “Puh-leeezzz…”
            Is this you falling asleep at the computer because of those drugs,painkillers you’re taking? ;)

            • Rebecca Hamilton

              zzzzzzzz … probably true Douglas. :-)

            • http://fpb.livejournal.com/ Fabio P.Barbieri

              As it happens, the earliest penitentials are things I studied in the course of writing my History of Britain 407-597. That is because they were a British and Irish innovation. In the early Church, penance for sin could leave you outside the Church for a whole lifetime, and confession was often public. It was the ecclesiastics of sixth-century Britain, followed a generation later by those of Ireland, who began to codify penances, and – this is the important thing – they did so for the use of monks, not of laymen. What is more, the first penitentials show clear signs of being, not systematic treatments of sin in a legal of philosophical manner, but collections of rulings made in particular times and places and brought together. Interestingly, of the three earliest known, two bear the names of the two great ideological enemies of sixth-century Britain, St.Gildas and St.David, which suggests that they were, at least, creation of the schools of those two “mighty opposites”. A few things are clear from them – for instance, that for a monk the sin of fornication was equally bad whether done with a man, woman or animal – the punishments inflicted are the same in all cases, and they are very heavy indeed.
              Theodore of Tarsus, one of the greatest figures in the Dark Age Church, comes two centuries later, and in a wholly changed Britain – the English have taken over, and Theodore is archbishop of Canterbury. Do these historical changes affect the doctrine and content of his Penitential? Yes and no. One thing that will not have changed is that the Penitential will be, as it was in the age of Gildas, a document for the use of monks and other ecclesiastics. Even more than in the sixth century, any written document from Europe’s eighth century is for the use of ecclesiastics. Since the Arab invasions, papyrus is no longer imported from Egypt, and writing can only be done in the incredibly scarce and expensive medium of parchment – treated sheep hide. Therefore anything that is not of the highest interest to ecclesiastics, and secondarily to kings, does not get written down. The rule of behaviour for laymen is not found in any code of the period I know.
              What I am saying is that the condemnation of abortion in Theodore’s penitential is for the use of nuns; who will already have been subjected to the tremendous penalty for unchastity – which in the early penitentials was from five to twelve years of excommunication and bread and water diet. Abortion was an aggravating circumstance in an already committed and condemned crime. (The biggest difference between the sixth-century Church of Gildas and David and the eighth-century Church of Theodore, apart from the small matter of being English rather than British/Welsh, was the rise of huge and powerful female monasteries.) And this means that its position is entirely different from that of the life of a layperson, whether then or today, since most laypersons haven’t sworn any oath of virginity and unchastity, as such, is not a more serious sin than any other.

  • http://jscafenette.com Manny

    God bless him.

  • Ben

    FYI- Neither David Green nor his managers ask if you’ve ever had an abortion, used contraceptives, etc. They legally can’t ask that stuff, and they don’t care. They don’t care if you use condoms. What they care about is paying for someone to go out and commit murder. They won’t pay for cocaine either. If an employee wants to get an abortion, then they can pay for it out of their own pocket. Same with contraceptives, same with condoms. Cocaine violates other laws, but as long as you don’t test positive when you’re on the job, they don’t care what you use your money for. Just don’t expect to use David Green’s money to pay for contraceptives.

  • Jamie Moore

    I thank God for people like you. It is against our first amendment right, The free exercise clause, I am so very thankful For the people that are willing to take a stand for God. That is exactly what this nation needs!! Too many have sat back and let things slide for too long. God bless your family and your company. He will honor you for this.

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      Me too.
      “… I am so very thankful For the people that are willing to take a stand for God.”

  • Kathy Ngoh

    I just posted this to my Facebook. I want to thank the Green family for being a blessing to my family. My son Caleb enjoys a Whole Person Scholarship to ORU because of the influence of Mart Green and the Green family. As a foreign Missionary in Africa, my husband and I would not have been able to help Caleb attend a university. I shop this store almost every week and I will continue to bless it in that way. I thank God for the Green family to stand for what is right. I am praying for your continued success!! Blessings!

  • Kathy Ngoh

    I just posted this to my Facebook. I want to thank the Green family for being a blessing to my family. My son Caleb enjoys a Whole Person Scholarship to ORU because of the influence of Mart Green and the Green family. As a foreign Missionary in Africa, my husband and I would not have been able to help Caleb attend a university. I shop this store almost every week and I will continue to bless it in that way. I thank God for the Green family to stand for what is right. I am praying for your continued success!! Blessings!

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      Thank you for sharing this Kathy. I think we all need to consider shopping at Hobby Lobby and Mardel’s this Christmas.

  • Ingrid

    You know, if we live in a free county that celebrates everyone’s background and beliefs….I”m not sure why this is a problem. If you live in a country where you are free to choose, and you signed an application that says you have the right to terminate your employment at any time, and you do not agree with this company’s policy…quit! No big scene. No lawsuit about discrimination….because it was YOU who chose to walk away. If you don’t like their policy you are also discriminating. But I’m willing to bet there are people in this great U.S. who can respect their point of view who need a job. That being the case, if you don’t like what they are “making you do”, if you choose to be sexually active and not want to face the consequences, move aside so someone else can have a job.

  • Bill S

    How can someone so successful be so boneheaded? This whole idea of equating taking a morning after pill to having an abortion shows no connection to reality. I don’t blame him for being so stupid (in the matter at hand) as I do the Church for leading its followers down the path of ignorance.

  • Ann

    Interesting when he says “what I believe to be abortion inducing drugs”. It’s not what you believe, it’s what is fact. If a life starts when a sperm and egg unite, then god kills off like 2/3rds of the human population even before they are born because only about a third of fertilized eggs makes it to implantation. The drugs in question only prevent either the egg from being fertilized or it prevents implantation. You would think that you would be more in favor with that over terminating a pregnancy weeks after. So what you believe is irrelevant. It is what is fact that counts.

  • Darren

    Unfortunately, Mr. Green’s letter only perpetuates multiple fallacies.

    Basically, corporations are not people. They cannot be drafted, they cannot vote, they cannot be sentenced to jail if they break laws, and they do not have free exercise of religion. This means a corporation must comply with laws regarding discrimination, such as sex, race, marital status, or religion. In this, they are different than a church.

    A Muslim owned corporation cannot fire you because you are a Christian, but a Muslim mosque can. A Jewish hospital cannot fire you for eating a ham sandwich in the cafeteria, but a Synagogue could (a real case, BTW, where a NYC Catholic hospital was bought by a Jewish hospital). Similarly, the Catholic Church does not have to accept someone who has been divorced and remarried, but a Catholic owned hospital cannot discriminate like this.

    The Catholic Church is not being forced to do anything, any more than the Catholic Church is forced to perform marriage ceremonies for people who have been lawfully divorced even though legally those people are free to marry at any time. A church can discriminate against anybody it wants, for any reason, or for no reason. A church affiliated corporation cannot.

    It is worth noting that Mr. Green signs his letter, “CEO, Hobby Lobby”. David Green is not being forced to pay for anything. Hobby Lobby, as a legally incorporated entity is, however, being forced to comply with the law. One will also note that Mr. Green is fully able to exercise his 1st amendment rights by, for example, publishing his letter and distributing it in the public forum.

  • Richardmitchler

    —- Pacifists pay for wars. Likewise, even people who object to contraceptives have to pay for them. Being a citizen has its downsides.

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      There is a difference between taxes and what we are talking about. Taxes pay for wars. Taxes are also used to pay for contraceptives right now and have been for decades. What we are talking about here is the government directly forcing people to violate their own conscience by compelling them to direct actions.

      Pacifists might pay for wars, but they are not compelled to fight in them. We allow conscientious objectors for wars. That is what Hobby Lobby is asking for itself in this situation.

  • Priscilla

    How can we help?

    • B. Wood

      What can we do to help? No one should be made to pay for someone else to have an abortion when their God given belief is against it. Whether it is one day or a week, if there is a baby, it is a BABY!! I totally agree with the Green famiy. I am just sick that the taxes I pay most probably pay for these pills for people who are on Government “Gimmees”. We give them everything else, so I’m sure our tax dollars are paying for this also when they go the clinics and what we call in my state “DHS” . All that means is that we pay for whatever these people who get checks from the Government every month. They don’t work. They receive checks. They have medical care and whatever prescriptions the Dr. orders. At no cost to them. So, yeah, we are paying for these pills. I just don’t think the Government should be able to make a company provide the money for abortions. And, yes, I believe abortion is murder. That is a little baby. I don’t think it matters how fully he may or may not be developed, it is a baby. You have a baby that is one day old or maybe a week. You can’t see him. If you could see him out in the world, would it make a difference to you? The only difference is that you cannot see the one who would be aborted with your naked eye. If you saw a sonogram of that baby, would you still say it was OK for someone who believes in God and His teachings to provide a pill to kill that baby?

      • Rebecca Hamilton

        I think you can start by shopping at Hobby Lobby. I buy something there once each month, when I get my paycheck. If there isn’t a Hobby Lobby near you, you can go to their online shop.

  • Carol Greer

    Mr. And Mrs. David Green,
    I am so happy to see that you WILL NOT back down. We are christians and we Must stand for what is right in God’s eyes. Our future here and beyond depend on it. Jesus died for us and we must stand for him our Lord and Savior. I will continue to pray that the grace and mercy of our God will change the hearts of the wicked. I believe that this and all battles that we as Christians must fight are the Lord’s and the victory is ours. This is part of God’s many promise to us. May God continue to bless you and yours.

    • B. Wood

      AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://yahoo Wanda

    I am very proud that the Green’s are fighting the government. I am right behind them all the way. Go David & Barbara.


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