It’s Not About Us or This Country. It’s About Them.

It is not, ever, about us.

It is not, ever, about this country.

Congress is once again heading for another titanic fight over a deadline. This time it’s the debt limit.

Now, I ask you, what would you consider important enough to shut down the government, damage America’s credit rating (all you credit card holders out there, think what happens to your payments when your interest rate goes up) and further traumatize an already traumatized citizenry?

The HHS Mandate? Would saving the First Amendment be enough reason?

Nope.

Ending our cycle of continuous wars? Would stopping the hemorrhage of money and lives that results from always being at way with somebody, somewhere be worth it?

Nope.

What would matter enough to our elected officials for them to push this country to the brink of a full-blown economic shut down and depression. Here, in the words of one of these elected officials, is what’s good enough for them:

“I think it is possible that we would shut down the government to make sure President Obama understands that we’re serious,”

That’s it, folks. Mano y mano. Show the president that we’re for real. Get our side up on the political score board.

We’re talking respect for us from the big guy. Anybody stupid enough to elect us is probably also a total fool. We can “frame our message” so that they’ll let us get away with it.

The Politico article discussing the latest looming nation-endangering political temper tantrum reads in part:

“I think it is possible that we would shut down the government to make sure President Obama understands that we’re serious,”

House Republicans are seriously entertaining dramatic steps, including default or shutting down the government, to force President Barack Obama to finally cut spending by the end of March.

The idea of allowing the country to default by refusing to increase the debt limit is getting more widespread and serious traction among House Republicans than people realize, though GOP leaders think shutting down the government is the much more likely outcome of the spending fights this winter.

“I think it is possible that we would shut down the government to make sure President Obama understands that we’re serious,” House Republican Conference Chairwoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington state told us. “We always talk about whether or not we’re going to kick the can down the road. I think the mood is that we’ve come to the end of the road.”

Republican leadership officials, in a series of private meetings and conversations this past week, warned that the White House, much less the broader public, doesn’t understand how hard it will be to talk restive conservatives off the fiscal ledge. To the vast majority of House Republicans, it is far riskier long term to pile up new debt than it is to test the market and economic reaction of default or closing down the government.

GOP officials said more than half of their members are prepared to allow default unless Obama agrees to dramatic cuts he has repeatedly said he opposes. Many more members, including some party leaders, are prepared to shut down the government to make their point. House Speaker John Boehner “may need a shutdown just to get it out of their system,” said a top GOP leadership adviser. “We might need to do that for member-management purposes — so they have an endgame and can show their constituents they’re fighting.”

The country would eventually default if House Republicans refuse to raise the debt limit, which the Treasury estimates will hit in late February or early March. The government would shut down if House Republicans instead were to refuse to extend the law funding current government operations on March 27.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/behind-the-curtain-house-gop-eyes-default-shutdown-86116.html#ixzz2Hy7M9Fpw

  • http://www.rosariesforlife.com Dave

    While I don’t agree with the tactics, exactly what would cause the government to enact spending cuts? Nothing, that I can think of.

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      Dave, I believe that the Rs are using the whole question of “spending cuts” as a ruse and a lie to use as an excuse to bust open one of the last big pots of real cash in our government — the social security funds. I handled the bill on the overflow (yes, there is one) on these funds for a couple of years and I am convinced that the only problem social security has is the transfer of monies from these funds to fund other programs. This has gone on for a long time and both parties have done it and if they would be honest, both parties know it.
      The whole reason for this “crisis” in social security is to use it as an excuse to get their hands on these funds to distribute them to their pals. That’s not spending cuts.
      The Rs, when they get in power (at least here in Oklahoma) spend like drunken sailors or shore leave, but they do not spend on the people. They spend on themselves and their corporate pals. Here in Oklahoma they talk all the time about how they do a balanced budget, but that is a deliberate lie and everyone in government knows it’s a lie. They run a huge deficit based on bond issues and such every year and drive the state further and further into debt.
      I’m saying all this because I think we need to stop letting both parties lie to us about these things. They are NOT doing this to benefit the people or to cut the deficit. That’s a political lie.
      I’m not — never have, never will — trying to excuse either party. They are BOTH lying to us and selling us down the drain, just in somewhat different ways.
      As for this brinksmanship they’re so addicted to, they’ve already managed to get America’s tax rating downgraded, which probably cost far more than every so-called cost saving idea which has been enacted in your lifetime and mine saved us put together. If they persist with these spitting contests, they are going to do great harm to all of us. Again, not one party is at fault here. Both are.

      • Dave

        You’ll get no argument from me, Rebecca. Both parties are spending us into oblivion- just whose pockets will be lined and which pet projects will be funded to the hilt is what is in dispute.

        I do think there are some R’s who actually want to cut spending, but they are in the minority in their own party. As far as Social Security, you are right…that should be off limits, period.

        • Rebecca Hamilton

          I agree. I know some of them.

          “I do think there are some R’s who actually want to cut spending, but they are in the minority in their own party.”

      • http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/ Manny

        “Dave, I believe that the Rs are using the whole question of “spending cuts” as a ruse and a lie to use as an excuse to bust open one of the last big pots of real cash in our government — the social security funds.”

        And what may I ask will the Republicans use that money for? It was the Republicans that created the locked box. Frankly that’s far fetched. I haven’t seen any discussion of such a plan. We need real spending cuts!!!! The economy isn’t budging. We can’t afford to live at this current level of spending.

        • Rebecca Hamilton

          They create new positions to hire their friends at outrageous — and I mean out-ra-geous — salaries, give contracts to their buddies (I know dems have done this too, but you wouldn’t believe the things I’ve seen on the R side) and, of course, their out-front, stated goal of putting the social security money itself into play in the stock market, where, as we all know, returns are guaranteed. I believe that, in itself, is political pay-off, big time, considering who funds campaigns, etc. It is certainly not a reform that’s going to benefit the American people.

          One major difference between the parties so far as spending goes that I’ve seen (and this is going to make you mad Manny, but it’s the truth as I know it) is that the Dems will, in all their spending, actually spend money on the people. The Repubs concentrate their spending almost exclusively on the top tier.

          We do need spending cuts. No arguments there. Spending cuts would probably eliminate the threat to social security by simply taking away the need to stop stealing from it. But what both sides want to do is talk about spending cuts, not do them. And neither side is willing to take the political hit of asking if we need to keep raising the defense budget every single year with no end in sight. Government expands under both parties when they are in power. Both of them. Every. Single. Time.

          To actually cut government seems almost impossible because of the self-protection at the top — I’m talking about agencies here. If we’re serious, we would begin by getting rid of the dead wood at the top of these agencies, not expanding it constantly with new positions for our pals.

          In truth, both parties are corrupt, dysfunctional and invested in taking care of themselves and their pals. There are good people in both parties, present company included. But the party apparatus on both sides is hurting this country.

  • Sus

    Cathy McMorris Rodgers is honest about where she’s coming from. If this is how it’s going to be, my 8 and 10 year olds can give them a run for their money with the nanny nanny boo boo stuff.


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