Do Women Need Planned Parenthood?

Do women need Planned Parenthood?

Every time anyone raises the question of cutting government funding for Planned Parenthood, the organization’s supporters — who range from the President of the United States, through many people in Congress to much of the media and a large number of the wealthiest and most powerful people sitting on boards, and heading up corporations and organizations throughout this nation — raise a clamor about “women’s health.”

You would think that Planned Parenthood was the only organization in this country that offered pap smears and birth control. You would also think that pap smears and birth control were all there was to women’s health care.

It has amazed me for a long time that no one calls them on this propagandistic approach to the question. Many times, the people ringing this alarm bell about Planned Parenthood and “women’s health” are the same ones who want to legalize prostitution and not only support but avail themselves of the services of women who they can pay to undergo surrogate pregnancies and submit to egg harvesting. In the entertainment world, they are also the people who put out the various forms of entertainment that depict women as sex things and promote rape and violence against women as entertainment.

They are, in short, misogynists. I include the “feminists” who support pornography, prostitution, egg harvesting and renting women for surrogate pregnancies among them.

It’s mind boggling, when you think of it like that, that these are the people we have accepted as the guardians of “women’s health.” Is it any wonder that they will go to the wall to defend Planned Parenthood. I can’t speak for the whole country, but here in Oklahoma, the interlocking boards between Planned Parenthood and organizations such as the Chamber of Commerce, ACLU, the State Medical Association and most other high-powered boards is striking.

All of this raises the question: Do women really need Planned Parenthood? Can they get the same pap smears elsewhere? Will it cost them more to go elsewhere? After all, Planned Parenthood is not free. It gets money from the government to provide these services, rakes in money from private donations and also charges the women when the come in for care.

This Live Action video answers that question. Have a look and see.

 

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  • pagansister

    For some women I expect PP IS the only place they can afford to get their health care. PP was there for my daughter when she needed birth control, and didn’t have insurance or money to go to a GYN. Yes, I think PP is still needed for some women. They serve a purpose even though many folks only think of them as a place for abortions.

    • hamiltonr

      We are talking about medicaid monies, so the question of whether or not a person has insurance does not apply. Medicaid is insurance.

      I would much rather see all the government money that goes to Planned Parenthood be moved to other agencies that do not do abortions. I don’t want to see the services cut. I just want to see them offered by someone else. This is easy to do, btw. All that’s lacking the will, and that lack of will is created by this false situation that Planned Parenthood’s supporters are selling that they alone can provide these services, and that provision of these services is actually what they are about.

      I’m glad your daughter got the help she needed, btw. I hope in the future she and others like her our tax dollars will be used in such a way that she can go somewhere other than Planned Parenthood to get them.

      • pagansister

        I do see you point, Rebecca. My daughter is now a married woman and well employed etc. PP was there when she was in college, and had little monies.

        • tedseeber

          And that’s how they do their propaganda to rope in a new generation. Why couldn’t the campus health services do this?

          • pagansister

            My daughter wasn’t “roped” into anything, she just needed to get some reliable birth control.

          • Rebecca Fuentes

            In places where there is no PP in the college town, Student Death did offer birth control, very forcibly sometimes (go in with a cold, get pressured to go on the pill).
            Women need PP like a fish needs a hook.

          • pagansister

            OOPS, Ted, I accidently replied to myself when trying to answer you question about why my daughter didn’t go to the campus health services for BC. Please see above. :-)

        • pagansister

          Am not sure the campus health services were doing birth control when she was a student–late 1980′s, early 1990′s.

          • tedseeber

            They were at OIT, in Klamath Falls, Oregon, a town so against sexual libertinism that shouting out that the Modoc you were attacking in the bar fight was gay, was a great way to escape an assault charge later, even if the fight was really about water rights.

            I find it hard to believe that in any more liberal locale than that there wouldn’t be birth control offered by campus health services.

            • pagansister

              I didn’t ask her about her reasons for using PP. She was an adult making an adult decision. Her business.

              • tedseeber

                Being a parent ends? I guess since I’m only halfway to my child being an adult by anybody’s standards (if he ever gets there, there is some doubt in my mind) I can’t imagine caring so little about my child that I could say “an adult making adult decisions”.

                • pagansister

                  No, one is always a parent—but when those children are of adult age and have to make tough decisions, as is part of being “adult”, then all one can do is advise, if asked. She was 19, in college in another state, in a relationship (didn’t end up her husband however) and chose to use birth control. I’d rather that than an unwanted pregnancy. I wasn’t asked—which was fine. She (and our son) had very, very comprehensive “sex ed” through our church, taught by those qualified to do so, so nothing was entered blindly. It has NOTHING to do with lack of loving and caring for one’s child. It has to do with loving them so much that you recognize that they are adults and have their own lives to lead, and hope that they were given enough guidance in the growing up stages that they can handle life. We have always been there for them when needed as we’re lucky enough to have a very close relationship with our children.

    • tedseeber

      Can you come up with an example that is neither birth control nor abortion nor sterilization?

      • Sus_1

        PP provides uninsured women mammograms or referrals to low cost mammograms.

      • pagansister

        Yes, Ted. PP does pelvic exams for women, Pap smears, and breast cancer screenings as well as flu vaccines, tetanus vaccine, and thyroid screenings, blood pressure testing, along with diabetes testing, cholesterol testing and basic sex education. Now for the men they offer testing for colon, prostate and testicular cancers as well as contraception methods. Does that answer your question? PP is not solely for abortions, sterilization and offering birth control methods—which help to prevent STDs (which can also be treated and diagnosed there.

        • hamiltonr

          I don’t know about the other things, but their “breast cancer screening” is just a physical exam. They misrepresent their services where this is concerned. See here. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2012/10/today-is-call-planned-parenthood-schedule-an-imaginary-mammogram-day/

          • pagansister

            Never have called them for a mammogram as suggested by the post you referred me to. Many times a physical exam of the breast finds problems too—but obviously not as complete as a mammogram.

        • tedseeber

          None of those are unique services though. Just about every free clinic in the country offers these.

          So what is PP doing that is unique and needs *specifically* our tax dollars to be funneled to them for?

          • pagansister

            Those services are probably available in other “free” clinics, It’s called choice in just where one wishes to go.

  • http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/ Manny

    Obviously the answer is no. All other non abortion services can be obtained. If PP drops their abortions, then they can recieve government funding. Otherwise it’s blood money.

  • tedseeber

    Live Action is quickly becoming what Mark Shea calls a “ritually impure source”. I try not to use them if other options are available.

    • FW Ken

      Mark Shea’s claim is that Live Action tempted abortionists to commit mortal sin, so from his perspective Live action would be ritually impure. Of course, if they were simply enticing the abortionists to admit the mortal sin in which they willingly participate, then Shea is dead wrong (so to speak). If an undercover officer tempts some innocent kid to use drugs, that’s one thing. If an active addict buys drugs from an undercover officer, that’s another thing altogether.

    • tedseeber

      Since that other reply didn’t show, I’d point out that Live Action is a ritually impure source *NOT* because of the accusation of lying, but because of the perception of confirmation bias in the minds of Lila’s enemies. No evidence she ever brings forth will convince anybody who isn’t already pro-life.

      • hamiltonr

        Ted, I haven’t deleted any of your comments. Also, I don’t understand what you’re trying to say. Live Action is “ritually impure”??????

        • tedseeber

          Not my comments- Just one other reply that didn’t get deleted.

          “ritually impure” in this case is a phrase Mark Shea uses about certain news sources that are viewed by *the opposite political side* as so biased that any information they put out in the internet is considered suspect by their enemies. Live Action and LifeNews are such sources in the pro-life movement, MoveOn.org is such a source in liberal circles. Strangely enough, despite their obvious bias, the Guttmacher Institute has escaped being such- their abortion research numbers are used by pro-lifers all the time.

      • tedseeber

        This was in reply to FW Ken

  • Sus_1

    I wish PP would stop providing abortions. I know that everyone thinks that is all they do. That isn’t true.

    • tedseeber

      That would be a solution- but there’s a rival organization in Portland, Oregon at least- Mother & Child Pregnancy Resource Clinics.

      • Sus_1

        Where I live, there are clinics that only provide abortions. That is their only business. Those places could take up the slack if PP stopped doing them.

        I just want affordable health care for all. This country and my state has lots of people needing health care but can’t obtain it because they can’t afford it. PP helps some of those people.

        • tedseeber

          I and the Bishops are with you on “affordable health care for all”, but there are much better models for it.

          One of my favorites is property tax supplied health care, on the idea that any owner living in the county benefits by supplying health care for his neighbors, especially in the case of pandemic diseases.

          Health care is not done cheapest on a one size fits all method. Regional differences lead to real problems when you federalize health care.

  • hotboogers

    ” … these are the people we have accepted as the guardians of “women’s health.”
    Who’s this “we” Kemo Sabe? I’ve never accepted these people as guardians of anything positive in the world. They have arrogated to themselves a mantle they do not deserve. All those interlocking boards you mentioned are filled with people who have built a way of life in sucking blood from the little people who lack power and money to oppose them. To quote our president’s mother, “They are not my people.”


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