ISIS, Genocide and Us. Whither are we Tending?

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Isis leader Bashu Bakr al-Baghadi

These videos are hard to watch. But we need to know.

We also need to think.

If you are like me, watching these will enrage you. That’s an ok place to start. But we need to get past that and think.

America is part of this, has been part of it ever since 9/11.

We need to get real about what’s happening. The American people are so misinformed and propagandized these days that they have trouble assessing things.

I deal with the public a lot and have for many years. I have witnessed an appalling loss of thinking ability in the public at large. People talk in circles, recite slogans as if they were facts, and follow this or that demagogue with a blind allegiance that is scary to behold.

We need to think, and by that, I mean think for ourselves with all our rational wits.

But first, we need to know. These videos are not thoughtful, exhaustive or balanced. But they portray a hard reality that we’ve got to know.

Only after we know will we be able to begin the process of working out whither we are tending.

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  • Nancy Ward

    Right on, Rebecca. Yes, it’s hard to watch but needed to wake us up!

  • pagansister

    I’m afraid I didn’t look at all the examples you posted, Rebecca. I have seen enough on the news broadcasts. It continues to amaze me that after centuries there are still religious fanatics who feel they are the only “faith” that is correct and those who don’t agree need to die. Seems that human beings never learn and history does repeat itself.

    • FW Ken

      The issue isn’t religion, but power. There people are totalitarians as much as the atheist communists and the pagan Nazis. Their version of Islam is only a pretext for gaining power. I don’t doubt they are sincere, but fanatics of all stripes often are.

      • pagansister

        True, it isn’t always religious fanatics who wish to dominate, I agree. I do think, however, that some of what is happening with the fanatical predominately Muslim groups now is partly based on their beliefs.

  • Gordis85

    Rebecca,

    So much to see and hear and pray about. I have to remember there is good too and that where evil reigns, GRACE ABOUNDS.

    How easy it is to drown in the bad and ugly news of the day and to forget that the Lord is Lord over all and not one single evil can separate us from that reality. The devil rages and screams and slaughters…he can do nothing else. He cannot build anything, only destroy and promote death everywhere he goes.

    I know and will pray and remember too, the good people who are working behind the scenes both in the Church and in that part of the world to try and rescue as many of God’s people as is possible. We must not forget them either.

    I read a story just yesterday about an elderly Mormon couple, a doctor and his wife, who are in Erbil, helping out as best they can. Let’s pray for the calm and quite and noble people who are in the hands of the Lord helping his children everywhere where there is torment and strife.

  • FW Ken

    I’m not hearing anything from the U.N. about this.

    • hamiltonr

      Good point.

    • AnneG

      The UN specializes in condolences and stern letters. Unless it is Irael in self defense. Then it’s condemnation.
      The UN is useful as a place to talk to people you don’t talk to diplomatically.

  • AnneG

    Rebecca, I think your timeline may be unnecessarily shortened. In 1979 the US Embassy in Tehran was overrun by Islamic revolutionaries and the diplomats there, including the Ambassador, were held for 444 days. In Lebanon from 1975 to 1990 there was a civil war and the Marine barracks and the embassy were blown up by Hezbollah, a surrogate for Iran. In 1993 there was an attempted bombing of the World Trade Center by Al Qaeda, the Khobar Towers in Riyadh were bombed in 1995, the US Embassy, Nairobi and US Embassy, Dar Es Salaam were bombed in 1996, there were also the USS Cole and I could go on. This did not start in 2001 with 9/11. This is a very long term problem and needs long term commitment and memory.
    Right now, we are back in either 1998, bombing Saddam Hussein or in 1914 when the pause in history began with the socialist revolution in Russia. Yes, we are in this and I believe we have a responsibility to help those in trouble and act responsibly because they are our neighbors.
    The barbarity shown above may have an equal in history, but I don’t want to research that. I know what’s going on, I don’t need more pictures. We do need leadership. More than that we need the Lord’s help to deal with this.
    St Michael, Defend Us In Battle!

  • Rob B.

    Our last expedition into Iraq was an unjust war, yet it seems that the majority of the people of the US embraced it with open arms. Now, when the cause is actually just, where is the will to fight?

    God forgive us, for we know not what we do…

  • FW Ken

    Are they even there? Are they in Nigeria dealing with Boko Haram? I missed the news last night and didn’t look through Internet sources, but has U.N. cooperation been sought against ISIS?

  • http://outsidetheautisticasylum.blogspot.com/ Theodore Seeber

    This is the world without Christianity. This is back to how it always was, before Christ.

    • pagansister

      Since we weren’t around before Christianity, how do you know what it was like, Theodore?

      • Elizabeth K.

        Ummm— Beowulf gives us a pretty good idea. So does the Old Testament, the Enuma Elish, The Epic of Gilgamesh. . .those are just a few examples. And yeah, it pretty much lines up with what we’re seeing now.

        • pagansister

          I can’t see that Christianity has solved a lot of problems—-the area where Jesus was born and lived hasn’t seemed to be able to solve their problems in 2000 years. Jesus obviously started something, but it doesn’t seem to have made a huge difference in the part of the world that he was directly engaged in. The things that are happening now are the end product of previous happenings. Wish there was a total solution to what is happening and that having a belief in what Jesus taught could solve them. Many faiths are ones of peace, but the super fanatics in some cause the situations we are seeing now. The fanatics don’t usually represent the majority of the members of a faith.

          • Elizabeth K.

            Definitely agree with you on that last one, pagansister. Though I would also argue that the reason we are horrified by the ongoing violence has much to do with adoption of a Judeo-Christian worldview, promulgated by Christendom, that argues for common humanity over tribal allegiances. As bad as things are, I do believe that without the advent of Chrisitianity they would be much worse, and that many problems that existed in Jesus’ world–education, health care, care for the poor, sick and old–have been the focus of Christianity in a way completely unimaginable in a pre-Christian world (and perhaps in a post-Christian one).

  • jenny

    God have mercy.


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