Taking KJV-Onlyism As Far As It Can Go

I thought that the view of the King James Version of the Bible that Stuff Fundies Like shared last week was extreme. Then they shared this doctrinal statement from Cornerstone Independent Baptist Church:

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Some will think this represent faithfulness to the Bible and to God. But I hope most readers can see it for what it really is: an arbitrary assertion that one’s preferred translation of the Bible is itself divinely revealed, so that one can sidestep difficult questions of evidence, of scholarship, and so on.

Ironically, there were those who claimed something similar for the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures. They didn’t have the audacity to claim that the Greek now supersedes the Hebrew, but they tried to give the impression that the translation itself was inspired and so on a par with the Hebrew text of which it was supposed to be a translation.

But perhaps most offensive is the ethnocentrism: declaring one’s own language the “universal language” of the “last days.”

 

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  • Paul D.

    Indeed, Irenaeus argues, against the Jews, that the Septuagint is the inspired version of the scriptures.

    • ccws

      And then the Gospel writers took the LXX’s mistranslations and ran with them…

  • Andrew Dowling

    I honestly never knew KJV-only churches existed until a few years ago. It has to be one of the absolute stupidest things I’ve ever heard of.

    • insertdumbusernamehere

      Hey, I’m fully on board with only using KJV. “Whoremonger” is so much more poetic than “fornicator”….

      • ccws

        LOL! A former co-worker of my sister’s loved the word “whoremongers” so much, he used to say it in place of “humongous.” Before long, everyone there was saying it. Occasionally we still say it in the family when we’re feeling silly.

    • Giauz Ragnarock

      Then you can now imagine the conversation I had with my former pastor when I found out that position was nonsense. However, a bad thing about a lot of modern Bibles is their use of more directly interpreted anti-LGBT+ people language.

  • Shiphrah99

    Oy.

    • ccws

      Stealing!

  • otrotierra

    A perfect example of bible-worship, a thinly veiled version of self-worship (and self-serving worship of one’s own interpretation of sentences printed on paper).

    • Your1Friend

      Yours is a most astute observation.

    • Your1Friend

      Someone of your keen intelligence would greatly enjoy Edward F. Edinger’s Ego and Archetype.

    • ccws

      Robert “The Bible Geek” Price calls it “this paper idol.”

  • Stacey (the kids’ Aunt Tasty)

    Bible-worshiping at its finest!

  • http://brucegerencser.net/ Bruce Gerencser

    I grew up in the KJVO movement, went to a KJVO college, and carried the teaching into the ministry. It all made “sense” as long as I stayed in the bubble. It’s cultic indoctrination that shuts off any rational thought about the history, composition, and text of the Bible.

    While I still love the beauty and cadence of the KJV, if the goal is to get people to read the Bible then it is better to use modern translations. I moved from the KJV to NKJV to NASB to ESV.

    Bruce

  • Raymond McIntyre

    Have fought this particular breed of silliness for years. My website, westcotthort.com, was set up to provide factual answers to common assertions by KJV-Onlyists about the ‘evil’ of the men considered responsible for the AV of the late 1800s.

  • http://newlife.id.au/ Marg Mowczko

    Most of the posts on my website have something to do with the topic of women in ministry, a subject that some Christians find controversial. I get a few nasty comments from time to time in response to these posts; but, by far, the most antagonistic, abusive, and downright vile, comments I receive are in response to a single post I wrote called “7 things you may not know about the King James Bible”. The vitriol that comes from some KJVO people is astounding. (Not to mention the lack of logic and faulty information in their arguments.)

  • rrhersh

    I have seen the argument pushing this back one step by declaring the Textus Receptus to be normative.

    • http://www.redeemedrambling.blogspot.com/ Dr. Fundystan, Proctologist

      *Snort* Now there’s some ignorance for ya!

    • ccws

      I have a 4-volume interlinear Bible that used to belong to my dad. I have to think he bought it because it was cheap and maybe out of morbid curiosity, because it’s one of those “the Textus Receptus is the fourth person of the Trinity” versions. Dad would never have settled for sloppy “scholarship” like that for any serious work.

  • http://www.roscoeland.blogspot.com/ Ross

    I heartily agree that it’s racist to say to a LOTE speaker, as the KJVO crowd do, that you cannot have the Bible in your native tongue.

  • Doug

    There is a baptist church in Oshkosh, WI that dutifully translates the KJV into other languages.

    • Giauz Ragnarock

      The problem people who are not KJVO people have with this is that the translators would then be approximating the meaning of the (older) English text that is an approximation of the meaning of the Greek Textus Receptus, which is an approximation of the meaning of Greek, Latin, etc texts that were harmonized to cut out varying messages and grammar and textual errors.

  • Shiphrah99

    I’ve been having a lot of fun with the lolcat bible. Cracks me up, but still gets the gist of the p’shat.

    • ccws

      Teh LOLcatz Bible is TEH AWSUM. I had a lot of fun “translating” parts of Noah & Joseph!

  • ccws

    Universal language? What if they get to the Pearly Gates & find out it’s Chinese? Ai yaaaaaaa!!!