Donald Trump as Antichrist

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It is one of the most disappointing aspects of conservative Evangelicalism that they are strident and loud about matters like “picking and choosing,” the coming of the “antichrist,” and the dangers of compromising one’s faith for worldly gain. And then significant numbers of them, including in particular their prominent leaders, visibly and unmistakably do all of those things, in a manner that is so blatant that there is only one plausible explanation for why Evangelicals more generally are willing to ignore and turn a blind eye to these things, or condemn them but then support others who are doing the exact same things.

The explanation is that Evangelicalism has become exactly that which it most hates and which it most vociferously condemns and defines itself over against. Evangelicals claim that other Christians are not “real Christians” because for them, Christianity is simply a club, a group, an identity marker, and not something personal and transformative.

If Evangelicals want to regain anything of their lost credibility, they will need to repent of their most obvious sin, which is hypocrisy. Because it is clear to outsiders (many of whom are themselves former Evangelicals) that Evangelicalism has become every bit as much, if not indeed more so, a club, a party, a gang, a group identity whose label does not consistently indicate that the person or church wearing it reflects any particular set of values or has had a particular kind of religious experience. And given that that is Evangelicals’ primary emphasis in their condemnation of others, repentance – visible, public, heartfelt repentance followed up by reformed behavior – is the only appropriate response.

Of related interest, there was an interesting exploration of whether horror is the appropriate genre into which to place the Book of Revelation. One can ask the same thing about the Trump presidency. See also Fred Clark’s recent post “Blasphemy” in which he clarifies the meaning of terminology that he has been using with increasing frequency:

When I speak of “American white Christianity,” I’m not listing demographic attributes, but theological qualities. I do not mean adherents of Christianity who also happen to be American and white. I mean practitioners of a religion characterized by whiteness and American-ness. It is a white theology based on the white Jesus reflected back from a white Bible. There is nothing in such a faith to make any of its adherents less susceptible to the “haze of delusion, denial, pride, and cruelty” Serwer describes as white nationalism.

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  • John MacDonald

    George Lucas identifies Palpatine as an Anti-Christ type. I’m very excited because I got my tickets yesterday for The Last Jedi and am intrigued to see further development of the Supreme Leader Snoke character. I hope Kylo Ren turns Rey to the Dark Side. Dark Side all the way!

  • Phil Ledgerwood

    At the Jerusalem Council in Acts, Paul and the other apostles argue their position, not on exegesis, but on the basis of experiences they’ve had among the Gentiles. This whole thing with Trump really challenges my antipathy to futurist premillienialism.

  • http://bilbos1.blogspot.com/ Bilbo

    My favorite preacher these days is Brother James Key, who has been making YouTube videos claiming Trump is the Antichrist for about two years, now. Some of his stuff seems really off the wall. And whereas I am politically liberal on most issues, Brother James is definitely conservative. But there is something good and solid about a lot of what he has to say.
    https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCh4ECh_O3uhViBrFR_XP8Gw

    • John MacDonald

      The scary thing is that all we need is for one of these world leaders to believe we are in the end times and that he/she can help bring about the apocalypse through his/her actions.

      • Nom De Guerre

        That is precisely what we have (had) in ISIS. At least its core leadership thinks/thought they could/would be instrumental in bringing about the apocalypse. That is the root of the despicable destruction and abuse of life and property propagated by the pox known as ISIS. See https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980

        • Neko

          The conviction that these are the end times and politics is but a mechanism to accelerate the Second Coming is also prevalent among certain factions of the Christian right in America. Recall that after 911 the Christian right adopted the very Crusader rhetoric promoted by Osama bin Laden, a rhetoric freely deployed by ethno-nationalists like Steve Bannon and neo-Nazis like Sebastian Gorka.

          One wonders what Mike Pence’s views of the apocalypse may be in the shallow recesses of his mind.

    • Mrs LeBeau

      Bilbo
      I could not agree more with you. II am a Christian who has liberal leanings and came across Brother James Key quite by accident, everything he is saying is coming true. I have prayed and asked God for discernment in regards to who the antichrist is. I have looked to see if there is anything redeeming about Donald Trump but have been unable to find anything in his character that is remotely kind, good or godly. Nothing. He has shown who he is from day one, devious, Narcissistic, vindictive, hateful, unrepentant and divisive. He is amoral.
      Trump is the antichrist

      • http://bilbos1.blogspot.com/ Bilbo

        I don’t know if Trump is the Antichrist, but he is a very evil man. I’ve developed a lot of respect for Brother James. He’s a very dear brother. And though he is politically conservative, it does not prevent him from seeing the real Trump.

        • Puppy

          Trump is the Antichrist, only the Antichrist makes and breaks the 7 Year peace covenant with Israel… TRUMP already sees Himself as GOD, he demands worship towards,Himself, as this is GOOD in his eyes, when he mentions GOD he is referring to Himself. it won’t be long before TRUMP sees Himself as KING of Kings. it’s what he desires the most, Trump does NOT FEAR GOD! AS HE IS GOD!!! in His Eyes….The Jews already see Him as their Messiah Israel LOVES Trump…

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/39b69b6c91fe20e4cc12888ccd0868d298fb6fda0319ea34b5ed148d7ec2ffee.jpg

          • http://bilbos1.blogspot.com/ Bilbo

            You might be right, Puppy. We’ll find out for sure in time. I think what we know for sure, right now, is that Trump is very evil, and that Christians should not be supporting him.

  • Al Cruise

    One of traits of conservative evangelicals is the desire and the need to have power and control over the lives of the poor , marginalized, and those without power. In my years spent in the evangelical Church realm, this played out on a regular basis. Elder meetings were always occupied with looking for sin in these folks, and then planning out “Church discipline” to impose on them. Single women and single moms were always scrutinized for their sexual behavior. Punishment usually involved public humiliation in front of the congregation. Poor people were scrutinized on how they spent their money. Anyone coming out as LGBT was kicked out and their family would be shunned or ostracized. There was one stark contrast to this however . Anyone who a big thither, had high community status/wealth, or a significant leader in the Church got treated very differently for the the same behaviors. Adultery was covered up, as was most other questionable conduct in their lives and businesses. Blaming the victim was the primary defense used by Church leadership . This behavior I think really defines who conservative evangelicals are. Just look at Roy Moore .The 1000 or so conservative evangelical leaders that supported Trump bowed down to him and asked him to give them the right to wield this two tiered power across all of society, outside the walls of their Church. Trump is giving it to them. Keep in mind the parallel in the Bible, when Satan offered the same kind of power to Jesus if he would bow down and worship him, Jesus refused it.

    • Gary

      “In my years spent in the evangelical Church realm, this played out on a regular basis.“

      Just out of curiosity, what evangelical church are you talking about? I had my share of evangelical churches, and I didn’t like them. But I never saw quite what you describe.

      • Al Cruise

        In my case most of this happened in two different Churches after they adopted Acts 29 and TGC/neo-Calvinsm Theology.

        • Gary

          I suspect that they are small, isolated churches that do not represent the majority of evangelical churches. Even then, they probably represent bad leadership, and not the majority of members.

          • Al Cruise

            I disagree, this does represent “conservative” evangelical Churches. One was a large Church , and the pastor came out of Mars Hill organization when it was operating under Mark Driscoll. Just to be clear Mark Driscoll does represent the true conservative evangelical Church, even after all the controversy surrounding him he has been installed as a voice for evangelicalism on the Evangelical Channel here on Patheos. Exactly the practice on how I stated evangelical leaders get treated, whether it’s Roy Moore or Mark Driscoll , you’re going to get a pass. Enough said.

          • Al Cruise

            How come you have everything blocked on your posts? You trying to hide something?

          • Neko

            I suspect that they are small, isolated churches.

            This is what I used to think about the Fatima nuts on the Catholic right who believe the Virgin Mary is holding world peace hostage to a precise ritual that must be performed by the hierarchy to consecrate Russia to her Sacred Heart. But after news broke last year that Russian ops had engaged in aggressive internet propaganda and influence campaigns tp undermine Western democracies, I’ve come to think these small, isolated churches were caught in a dragnet that accounts in part for the virus euphemistically known as the “alt-right.” What Al Cruise describes is virulent authoritarianism, for which Christianity is but thin cover.

          • http://infiniteoceanoflightandlove.blogspot.com/ Daniel Wilcox

            Tragically, that’s not the case–“small, isolated churches.” Calvinism is becoming the central theology of many Christian leaders in the U.S. Calvinistic T.U.L.I.P. has basically split the huge Southern Baptist Convention. Even the famous non-Calvinist Billy Graham Association now claims Calvinist doctrine (though Billy Graham himself doesn’t).

            Weirdly, even some Wesleyan churches have gone Calvinist including a huge one in Georgia. And out here in California, when my wife’s church started preaching that all infants are “in essence, evil” and that God foreordained only a limited number of humans are to be saved, and that humans have no choice, I went looking for a church that that didn’t teach such horror. I visited a bunch of churches out here of various denominations, many of them very large, and they were all teaching Calvinism:-(
            Heck, even some Pentecostals. I’m not Pentecostal, but I thought I would surely find a safe haven in that denomination. But when I attended an Assembly of God Men’s Bible study for many months, they did 3 Calvinist authors in a row, so after opposing Calvinism for over 50 years, I finally gave up, realized that Christianity can’t be true.

          • Gary

            Man, and I thought I got stuck with weird churches.
            I’m not into evangelizing. But you ought to give Methodists a try. Ok, they have controversy over pro/anti gay marriage (both sides represented, though).
            But, laid back, and no problem not being a member. They treat you the same, participation in communion, etc.
            I’ve detected no Calvinism at all – yet. But I have been disappointed before, and moved on.

          • http://infiniteoceanoflightandlove.blogspot.com/ Daniel Wilcox

            I think generally, some Methodists aren’t Calvinistic. But, on the other hand, when I visited one Methodist church and talked with the minister, shockingly, he defended Calvinism!!

            And a Methodist theologian, married to a Methodist minister, is himself a hard Calvinist, told me personally, that hard determinism is the truth.

            Thankfully, I’ve known other Methodist ministers who aren’t.

          • Linnea912

            Methodists are a diverse bunch, though for the most part, they trend middle-of-the-road theologically. My former Methodist church was way out on the left edge, theologically and otherwise. “Free” Methodists, on the other hand, are *very* conservative. United Methodists are, for the most part, pretty sane.

          • http://infiniteoceanoflightandlove.blogspot.com/ Daniel Wilcox

            During the worst time of life when fighting against Reformed Christianity led me into a deep hopelessness, I got counsel from a caring U. Methodist minister, who now that I look back on that dialog, probably had one of the best outlooks on reality. He was a panentheist of a pietistic sort.

            I wouldn’t ever find a home in most U.M. churches, however, because I don’t think that Jesus is God but rather a Jewish prophet,
            and I’ve never thought infants are sinful at birth and need to be baptized.

          • Gary

            When I mentioned Methodists, I was actually referring to UMC. What I have found is that for the most part, their members reflect what James Herriot’s books, call out on Methodists – All Creatures Great and Small, All Things Bright and Beautiful, All Things Wise and Wonderful, The Lord God Made Them All.
            Can’t help but think of his description of a farmer being kicked in the balls by his cow. He took it with humility. And never uttered a cuss word. Humility to the point of not wanting to offend anyone. Even when he noticed the vet was tipsy. Didn’t want to offend anyone. Maybe not so relevant today. But my impression of most UMC members I have met in my limited domain.

          • Al Cruise

            There are even Anabaptist Churches that are adopting TGC Calvinist Theology {Mennonite}. The first thing that happens when strict complementarianism is adopted and enforced, women become viewed as weak and prone to sin and must be under close shepherding by men. Strict rules are placed on women by men on what roles they can play in the Church body. Mark Driscoll a leading evangelical Calvinist said the following about women.http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2014/09/pastor-mark-driscoll-called-women-penis-homes.html

          • http://infiniteoceanoflightandlove.blogspot.com/ Daniel Wilcox

            Yes, I know! I’m a former Anabaptist local leader.

            It’s all really completely bizarre, absurd.

            Driscoll is one of the worst. I already know way too much about his Calvinist and unethical views from a few years ago.

          • Lee Pfahler

            Not all Anabaptist churches are like that. For example, the Mennonite Church USA has many female pastors. At the Mennonite church I attend, three of our four pastors are women. The more conservative Anabaptist churches like the Amish and conservative Mennonite groups would practice complementarianism.

          • Al Cruise

            Agreed, but modern Churches like Mennonite Brethren and others have switched over to TGC /Calvinism and adopted complementarianism. These Churches are very different from Amish, with highly educated professionals in there congregations and have Universities in California.

          • Lee Pfahler

            Yes indeed.

          • Linnea912

            Give the Episcopal Church a try. Episcopalians are generally pretty sane, though the “Anglo-Catholic” congregations trend more conservative. But we consider our faith to be a three-legged stool: Scripture, tradition, and *reason*. The EC keeps the Calvinist types not at arms’ length, but at football fields’ length.

          • http://infiniteoceanoflightandlove.blogspot.com/ Daniel Wilcox

            Thanks for the suggestion. I actually did plan to go to a seminar at a local liberal Episcopal church, where they were having a Jewish leader speak, BUT then I found out in the pre-reading preparation that he actually claims God created evil:-(!!!

            Still, some Episcopal churches do emphasize a liberal, reasoned faith which rejects determinism. Marcus Borg is probably the best known such leader. I’ve read a bunch of his books and went to one of his weekend seminars several years ago, before his death.

      • Al Cruise

        “I didn’t like them” My guess is you are lying through your teeth and you are an alt right wing conservative evangelical in Church leadership.

        • Gary

          My my, why so upset. I don’t like to get spam. I tended to get all kinds of spam from Africa, claiming I have inherited millions of dollars, so I tend to not want open internet access. I also am not on Facebook, since I consider that a juvenile search for friends, that are interested in what restaurant I happen to like, or how I fold my napkins. I happen to like only two blogs. This one, although I don’t agree with the politics, it has the most interesting posts on religion and Sci-fi.
          Regarding churches, one example. Although you might not consider Mormons an “evangelical” church, it has the same characteristics. Attend a fast and testomony meeting sometime, and you would understand. Politics the same too, 90% Republican. Authoritarian structure that I dislike, but some of the nicest people I’ve known. You seem to have as much hate for evangelicals as you claim they have for progressives. I don’t think so. And now I am going to a Methodist church. I like it, specifically, because it tends to keep politics out of sermons (mostly – and it, too, has problems). But so do I. And apparently, so do you. Btw. I go to a Methodist church, but Ivsm not a member, specifically because Ivhad so much issues in the past when an actual member of churches. But that’s my problem.

    • Chuck Johnson

      This type of evangelical is getting left behind.

  • Chuck Johnson

    The explanation is that Evangelicalism has become
    exactly that which it most hates and which it most vociferously
    condemns and defines itself over against.-James

    “Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

  • Neko

    Obviously I share the sentiments of the OP. Though Evangelicalism is off my radar it’s clear that in the long tradition of American white supremacy most graphically displayed by the KKK cross, Christianity on the American right is mainly a tribal marker for ethno-nationalism and authoritarianism. I would have said “far-right,” bur the GOP’s complete capitulation to Trumpism renders the distinction meaningless.

  • Mrs LeBeau

    Donald Trump is the Antichrist, the man of Perdition. He is building his seat where he will declare himself to be god. This is just as it was prophesied.

    • Puppy

      Agreed!!This IS THE GREAT DECEPTION going on. If one is not truly spirit filled and seeing with spiritual eyes, the unseen becomes impossible. Most Christians don’t have that kind of faith, which is required in order not to be deceived. Narrow is the way into heaven in a vast physical world. Only walking and being led by the truth and the spirit will that narrow path be found. You’re truly spirit filled and can see with Spiritual eyes.. it’s impossible for SATAN to deceived you as you’re one of the very Elect as Jesus said Matthew 24:24..You already know who the Antichrist is.

  • RustbeltRick

    Growing up evangelical is to play a lot of What If? games. We were always dead certain that the leader of Russia was going to be the guy. Now right-wingers are sure that every Democratic president is fixing to enslave the world.

    I don’t see Trump as smart or disciplined enough to be anti-Christ. By looking towards politicians, we are playing the same game as the evangelicals. Isn’t the real power now in the corporations? Perhaps anti-Christ is the Koch Brothers, or the CEO of Monsanto; in the latter case, it’s not too far-fetched to consider Monsanto would essentially control the world food supply in the near future.

    • Puppy

      The Bible says, the Antichrist is a Master Deceiver, will be a master con man, a slick accomplished liar like Satan. comes as a Wolf in sheep clothing, he will fool Christians and Jews,they,will see Him as a MAN OF GOD, believing he is doing GOD’s will…. The Antichrist will be a patron supporter of Israel, who else LOVES Israel more than Trump?. He is seen as the Messiah, the Jews LOVE Him, they see Him (TRUMP) As their guy..The Antichrist has “a mouth that speaks boastfully.. prospered in everything he did, and truth was thrown to the ground.. he will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior.” (from Daniel) – Trump does fit the characteristics exactly.

      The Antichrist will not just appear and fulfill all the prophecies in one day. The prophecies will all be fulfilled – but over time. Antichrist will grow in power and influence from “a little horn, which GREW exceedingly great” (see Dan 8:9). …The Antichrist will only be worshiped by those who are doomed to take his mark and perish with him in the lake of fire. But everyone whose name is written in the Lamb’s Book of Life will not worship him, they will remain faithful to Jesus Christ. THIS IS WHAT GOD Says in Revelation 13:8

      • Nick G

        The Bible says, the Antichrist is a Master Deceiver, will be a master con man, a slick accomplished liar like Satan

        So, Trump is conclusively ruled out as a candidate, then. The most alarming aspect of the Trump phenomenon is the number of followers and the amount of power he’s gained despite his blindingly obvious ignorance, crudity and narcissism, and his inability to keep his lies straight for two days (sometimes, two minutes) together.

        • Puppy

          Actually you will be quite surprised by the length that pastors go through to protect peoples like Trump, The Bible spells the Antichrist clear as day, He will be loud boastful and egotistical, a megalomaniac in his quest for world power Daniel 7:8, Revelation 13:5 who else is more boastful then Trump? He will come preaching peace. But Daniel says, “through peace he will destroy many.” (Daniel 8:25) Jesus warns when the Antichrist comes he will be accepted by the Righteous, (Christians),the same ones of those who rejected Christ (JOHN 5:43) the GOP reminds me of Pharisees and Sadducees…

          The man who shall turn out to be the Antichrist shall initially be supported by a few people of the nation, (Daniel 11:23 ) and shall initially be hated by many. (Daniel . 11:40-44)Trump is currently supported by relatively few people, and is hated by many people both in America and throughout the world. in Daniel 11:38, Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts.: This is who Trump believes in,Trump believes in the GOD OF MONEY, He SERVES The GOD of Money who is SATAN.

    • Puppy

      You say I don’t see Trump as smart or disciplined enough to be anti-Christ? Fair enough one thing, the Antichrist is a Master Con-man he starts small and grows in power, by those whose,names are not found and written in the Lamb’s Book of Life Revelation 13:8…. We don’t know everything, According to GOD some things are best for us not to know…but the Bible never says the Antichrist will be loved by the Whole World, that is HOLLYWOOD. The Antichrist is a Warmonger and he will be taking war to the world.Revelation 6:2, The reason why he takes WAR to the Whole WORLD is because the WORLD DOES NOT Love him… He is also a Conqueror who goes out conquering and to conquer he is going to be fighting wars, He does this as not everybody will Bow Down and Worship Him and even then it won’t be until three and a half years, the FINAL 42 months When the Antichrist is ruling every thing..

      THIS IS when the Antichrist is REALLY AWFUL he will be Demonic Possessed by SATAN- He won’t be the SAME PERSON! SATAN will take over him, when he the Antichrist receives Deadly Head Wound Revelation 13:3.. HE DIES AND SATAN RAISES HIM from the DEAD, at this time the BEAST (SATAN) takes over…

      • Nick G

        THIS IS when the Antichrist is REALLY AWFUL he will be Demonic Possessed by SATAN

        I must say I think Trump could only be improved by being possessed by Satan – we could at least expect a degree of coherence and sophistication in his lies; and according to Edgar in Shakespeare’s King Lear, the devil is “quite a gentleman”, which one could hardly say of Trump!

  • http://whoamiwhoisgod.blogspot.ca/ Belle Unruh

    I think of the Anti-Christ as an evil religious movement that will take power in the United States, instead of being one man. Paul said there were Anti-Christs in his day, and I think he was speaking of the Gnostics and other strange religions. But these are just my thoughts.

    • Al Cruise

      I feel that will be part of it. My guess is the ” anti Christ” will not be a single individual but the white nationalist/supremacist movement as a whole. They have been the leaders in the World, arguable since the Reformation. They created and control the religious and economic systems of the world to benefit themselves. Often using one to manipulate the other ie. slavery , missionaries to install colonialism on indigenous peoples, wars to access natural resources etc, using terms like national security to justify it all. Proudly holding up the name of Jesus, but creating policies that oppose everything Jesus taught. The election of Obama was the trigger where they felt that there was a real threat to their power. This and the looming fact that they will become a minority in future years has them moving out of darkness into the light. We are beginning to witness that today.

      • http://whoamiwhoisgod.blogspot.ca/ Belle Unruh

        I believe you are right in everything you have said.

      • Puppy

        That is not from the Bible, please read your Bible… GOD makes it very clear the anti Christ” is single individual

        • Al Cruise

          Ok , Trump or Bannon which one would you say?

          • Puppy

            Trump, On the day of his presidential Inauguration the NY Winning Lottery numbers were 666, ISRAEL loves him, they already believe he is the Messiah, they compare him to Joshua, the name (Joshua) means “Yahweh is salvation”.. The Jewish belief is once the Third Temple is rebuilt the Messiah (Jesus) will be revealed in association to the temple!. ONLY problem is the BIBLE DOES NOT say that, it says the ANTICHRIST will show Himself as GOD in the temple 2 Thessalonians 2:4…..As it is written He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple,proclaiming himself to be God.

            The Antichrist is a Master Con-Artist he pretends to be the biggest supporter of Israel, he pretends to LOVE the Christians and Jews only to betray them…This is be the BIGGEST betrayal in Human History as the Jews have already rejected JESUS as their true Messiah, they are looking for a false Messiah (TRUMP)

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5efedc89576e681a774b45299d6c6728422e0cb47a43acfa02b0cd159d022773.jpg

          • Al Cruise

            What if your wrong? The Bible says false prophets can be stoned to death, do you agree with that? Many predictions turned out to be false over the last 2000 thousand years. Some were made by some very high profile evangelical leaders. Lets talk again after a couple of election cycles.

          • Puppy

            We’ll just have to wait and see my friend. Only the Antichrist makes a 7-year covenant of “peace” with Israel, AS three and a half years into the signing of this peace treaty, he will renege the deal and try to destroy Israel.(Mat 24:15-22; Daniel 12:1; Jeremiah 30:6-9).He will commit the abomination of desolation in the Third Temple,where he will erect a statue of himself up in their third Temple and he will demand worship. I believe a strong delusion would have to happen in order for Christians to support,the Antichrist, 2 Thessalonians 2:11…Only that are really true Christians in the eyes of God won’t be fooled Matthew 24:24..When Christians elevate the dreams, visions, and “prophetic” words of other Christians over the bible, wisdom, and common sense we leave ourselves to be open to being majorly deceived. The Bible makes it clear the Antichrist will be supported by Christians believing he is a Man of GOD, like Trump…

            The Peace covenant with ISRAEL could come as early as 2018? once that happens you will know…. Just keep watching the signs :)

          • Al Cruise

            Lets talk again in 2020.

          • Puppy

            Trump making a peace covenant between ISRAEL and her neighbors would get him re-elected and he’ll probably do no wrong in professing Christians eyes.. Only problem once reelected and in power, Trump will likely break peace covenant with ISRAEL soon after.. The Antichrist is Master con-artist, He comes as Wolf in sheep clothing until he later turns on Christians and Jews. It’s called the great Tribulation because the ANTICHRIST kills Christians massively and the mark of the beast is enforced…

            That’s why it’s called it’s called the GREAT Tribulation! Sadly many Christians are putting their hope in the false pre rapture to save them ):

          • Puppy

            Just watch the signs my friend… You will know once the peace covenant is made between ISRAEL and her neighbors

          • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/ James F. McGrath

            All of this reflects an approach to the Book of Revelation and the Book of Daniel that ignores the references to events that would have been intelligible in the time of the author and earliest readers.

            http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/2008/09/christian-fundamentalism-views-revelation-as-a-mean-joke.html

            http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/2012/03/why-is-the-futurist-interpretation-of-revelation-so-popular.html

        • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/ James F. McGrath
          • Puppy

            Yes, The epistles of John say there are many antichrists even as we know The Antichrist is coming…There is only one man of sin who is The Antichrist, the beast of Revelation 13:1-8 who fulfills the prophecies including Rev 19:20. He will lead the world into a one world order, a world government under his rule. And everyone will be forced to take the mark of the beast those that worship him will do it out of fear not because they love Him.. He dies and will be Possessed by Satan in the last 72 months of his reign and will make war against the Saints he kills them massively for standing with Jesus. Please read, Revelation 13:3, Revelation 13:7,Revelation 13:8,Daniel 7:25 … :)

  • Joeydonut

    While I can’t believe that there are people that are that naive to think that Trump does not satisfy the traits of the antichrist, he, the antichrist, through deception, will have millions of followers. Destruction, fornication, riches, exaltation, ruthlessness……..shall I keep going?

    • Nick G

      But does it say anywhere in the Bible that the Antichrist will be unable to formulate a coherent sentence without an autocue?

  • Joeydonut

    Destruction, fornication, exaltation, deception, riches and a platform……shall I keep going? Do people choose not to believe that Trump does not satisfy all the traits of the antichrist because they’ve been seduced or they’re that naive? There is a ray of light for those who believe that Trump is fetid. Should one make a conscience effort to elude everything Trump stands for, in the end one can sleep at night with a sanitary sense of morality.

  • Obscurely

    Great post, but I think a better word than the garden-variety hypocrisy we all indulge at times is IDOLATRY — Christians who put party or tribe (whether on the Left or the Right) over God and their faith are simply worshiping false idols. Thank God there’s a significant minority of both evangelicals and Republicans who are appalled at the ‘devil’s bargain’ some Christian on the Right are making with Trump, Moore, et al. For example here’s a column by prominent evangelical Republican Peter Wehner titled, “Why I Can No Longer Call Myself an Evangelical Republican” …

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/opinion/sunday/wehner-evangelical-republicans.html

  • Obscurely

    Your critique is echoed in a David Brooks column last week …

    “You don’t help your cause by wrapping your arms around an alleged sexual predator and a patriarchic bigot. You don’t help your cause by putting the pursuit of power above character, by worshiping at the feet of some loutish man or another, by claiming the ends justify any means. You don’t successfully rationalize your own tawdriness by claiming your opponents are satanic. You don’t save Christianity by betraying its message.

    “What shall it profit a man,” Jesus asked, “if he gain the whole world and suffer the loss of his own soul?” The current Republican Party seems to not understand that question. Donald Trump seems to have made gaining the world at the cost of his soul his entire life’s motto.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/07/opinion/the-gop-is-rotting.html

  • Obscurely

    Related cultural analysis in David Brooks’s column today, critiquing the larger issue of radicalism on both the Left and Right …

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/11/opinion/radicalism-trump-moore.html