Looking Forward to The Last Jedi

I assume that other readers of this blog have been surprised by my lack of comment on what others all over the internet have been talking about, namely the new trailers that have been released for The Last Jedi. Things have been incredibly busy, but I am indeed planning on seeing it. I’m more worried about whether holiday travel plans may interfere with me seeing the Doctor Who Christmas episode in a timely manner.

Nerdist has analysis and speculations about The Last Jedi here:

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  • Approximately this date forty years ago, I sat in a movie theater to catch my 13th viewing of “Star Wars: A New Hope.” We’ve all heard stories of people having seen the movie dozens if not hundreds of times by this date. The craziest thing happening in December 1977 was where were all the Star Wars toys to be found? Nowhere. If you were lucky to find the ‘rain check empty toy boxes’ for the toys to be later manufactured and delivered in early 1978, you did have something for the kids under the tree.

    I’m really anticipating the movie score by John Williams and impatiently wait for the December 15th Amazon release of his music. But Thursday night at 6:00pm, I’ll be sitting in seat H13 along with a gaggle of rowdy fans to catch the opening night fan event for Episode VIII. I’ve stumbled onto a few online spoilers about the movie and already fear that I won’t get the same emotional experience as “The Empire Strikes Back” gave me. Wasn’t the Williams’ score for that movie — awesome!

    • I love the score from The Empire Strikes Back, too – I owned the cassette when I was young and played it constantly!

    • John MacDonald

      I just finished re-watching “The Force Awakens” and have my tickets, so I’m ready for “The Last Jedi” tomorrow night!

      My favorite episodes are actually 1-3, my first choice being “Revenge of the Sith,” because I like all the scheming and deception of the Sith. I’ve liked that sort of thing since I was a kid and saw the “inter family drama” among the various Roman families in the BBC series “I Claudius,” which was actually the first time I encounterd Patrick Stewart! And “Lies and Deception among the Ancients” is a kind of hobby research interest of mine. I just started reading “Lies and Fiction in the Ancient World,” edited by Christopher Gill and Timothy Peter Wiseman, University of Exeter Press, 1993. Here is an interesting quote from the book:

      “Do ancient historiographers sometimes say things they know to be factually untrue? Emphatically, yes. The accusation of deliberate fabrication is made repeatedly. Herodotus is dubbed the father, not only of history, but of lies; Polybius castigates historians not only for incompetence, but falsehood; Lucian tells of historians who claimed to be eye-witnesses of things they could not possibly have seen; invention and manipulation of factual material is (I believe) demonstrable in Herodotus and Plutarch, as well as Hellenistic tragic historians. The motives vary: some, of course, crudely political — propaganda, flattery, denigration; literary rivalry (to trump one’s predecessors, of which we have seen examples even in Thucydides); the desire to spin a good yarn (often important in Herodotus and other historians of the exotic); sometimes (surely) historiographical parody; sheer emotional arousal or entertainment; the need to make moral points or bring out broader patterns or causes behind complicated sequences of events. Why then do Herodotus and Plutarch behave in this way? Serious ancient historians (which both Herodotus and Plutarch intermittently are) face the problem of the eternal see-saw of history: the need to generalize from specifics. No serious ancient historian was so tied to specific factual truth that he would not sometimes help general truths along by manipulating, even inventing, ‘facts’.”

      – J.L. Moles, “Truth and Untruth in Herodotus and Thucydides” in “Lies and Fiction in the Ancient World” edited by Christopher Gill and Timothy Peter Wiseman, University of Exeter Press, 1993. — pages 90, 115, 120

      After I bought the book, I found out that the entire book is online for free here: https://www.scribd.com/doc/137911579/Gill-c-Wiseman-t-p-Edd-Lies-and-Fiction-in-the-Ancient-World-1 – But I don’t think I’ll return my copy because I like to have a paper copy to underline things an write in the margins.

  • John MacDonald

    I have a guess: I saw the trailer where Rey has Kylo Ren’s light saber and seems to be in something that looks like a throne room for the First Order. I wonder if Rey pretends to be turned to the Dark side by Kylo Ren just so she can get close enough to supreme leader Snoke to destroy him?

    • Having just seen “The Last Jedi” myself, John if you saw it do you think as I do, that we STAR WARS fans have been duped by the title of the film? How could they do that and get away with it? All in good fun and a great movie too.

      • John MacDonald

        I definitely don’t want to give away anything in the movie for those folks who haven’t seen it yet, but I definitely think it was one of the best Star Wars ever. A must see (and getting great reviews from Rolling Stone, People, etc.)!

        • Well even before the movie’s release its director was telling fans that Luke was the last Jedi. But he added, the last ‘fully trained’ Jedi. It was interesting how it was General Leia herself, who stated ………… at the end of the movie. The humor in the film was delightful and the music truly was amazing. I’m blown away by the whole experience.