Is redemption possible without Jesus Christ?

On my Facepalm, I’m getting inundated with Happy Birthday wishes. (Thanks, naturally!) Some are funny and clever, and some even have images. My grandmom even posted this picture of me (right)

But this message was a bit odd.

…and we’ll go down the line, yes or no answers only, please: Do you believe redemption is possible without Jesus Christ?

( if anyone knows Brian Williams or another future moderator…) Happy Birthday!

This was my reply:

If you are asking from a theological point of view:

YES and NO are both incorrect. Redemption is not necessary, there is no ‘great’ redeemer.

However, if the question is more open-ended – then the answer is:

YES. I redeemed a coupon at a pizza restaurant from a girl named Trina.

There you have it folks. Redemption is not only possible without Jesus Christ, it happens all the time. Here is the screenshot for posterity.

do you believe redemption is possible without Jesus Christ?

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  • http://killedbyfish.blogspot.com feralboy12

    I took some bottles back to the store the other day. Am I saved?

    Killed By Fish

  • Justin Griffith

    Depends on what state you are in.

    Is your blog’s name a reference to this: Killed By Death ?

  • ‘Tis Himself, OM.

    I’ve never understood the Christian idea of redemption. Jesus supposedly redeemed folks by dying. How does this make sense?

    Gods don’t permanently die. It’s in their contract. So Jesus spent an unpleasant afternoon hanging around the cross and a day and a half later he’s as good as new. How is that a sacrifice?

    Jesus’ daddy, Ol’ Yahweh, was upset at humanity and needed a sacrifice to make him happy. But according to the propaganda Yahweh is omnipotent. Why couldn’t he just poof himself all happy?

    If Jesus didn’t fake-die, then people would be going to Hell when they died. But Jesus didn’t have to worry about that when he died. He knew (it’s that omniscience thing) he wouldn’t go to Hell. So what’s the big deal?

    Sorry, Christians, but your redemption idea doesn’t work for me. It’s as nonsensical as you folks pretending you’re monothesists when it’s obvious you’re polytheists.

  • annie

    And what does Brian Williams have to do with any of this???

    I liked the answer you supplied to your birthday riddle.

  • matty1

    But Jesus didn’t have to worry about that when he died. He knew (it’s that omniscience thing) he wouldn’t go to Hell. So what’s the big deal?

    In the interests of pedantry there is a medieval myth known as the Harrowing of Hell in which Jesus did spend at least some of those 2 1/2 day down there. As I recall it says that ‘dying’ was a trick to sneak into hell so he could beat up Satan and release some subset of the inmates, which kind of makes more sense than the mainstream version.

  • Justin Griffith

    No clue about the Brian Williams thing, Annie.

    :)

  • John

    I think he was quoting something? I just scrolled down and found it on FB, the whole interchange is totally incomprehensible to me

  • Justin Griffith

    He just replied with a new post on my FB wall with a link to something that provides a little more context.

    This is what he seems to be talking about.

    At first glance it appears election-related, but I think that was a facebook post from his friend. It gets weird by the end, and I’m confused again.

    Oh well. I’m sure Soup is a good guy.

  • http://www.enlightenmentales.com Jon Howe

    I think she was joking and quoting from a Republican Debate?

  • sqlrob

    Gods don’t permanently die. It’s in their contract.

    Umm, Heimdall?

  • F

    Heimdall? Then Loki as well. When the world ends, almost everyone dies.

    The Jesus sacrifice is more like Odin’s sacrifice – they don’t really die.

  • http://amnmnmyyererwerwerasd.net Salvatore Hoeller

    Who would have thought that this thing would have become a viral hit? I have to admit that I always smile when I see the ad. Remember all of the Billy Mays commercials? On my site (linked here) I made a small list with links to his stuff. Now those are funny!


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