LBTM: Think Different

Check out the woman bandaging CamCam's leg at the church. She isn't introduced by name, but I'd recognize that crestfallen frumpiness anywhere. Hello again, Loretta.

I'm used to seeing more of that sort of thing in the movie adaptations of blockbuster best-sellers. The Harry Potter movies and Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies are filled with fleeting glimpses of characters from the page who had to be cut or condensed out of the films. Those little touches are a shout-out or a concession to the biggest fans of the books, those who are likely to be most demanding and most inevitably disappointed by the film adaptation.

Apart from this cameo by Loretta, there's very little of this here in Left Behind: The Movie. This is partly due to the fact that the book was so poorly written. The characters and scenes that were cut for the adaptation weren't vivid enough for anyone to complain about their absence. It's also partly due to the nature of the fandom for this book series. Fans of the Harry Potter series loved to spend time in the world that J.K. Rowling had created, so they read and re-read her books, exploring every corner of every hallway of Hogwarts. The millions of readers of the Left Behind series, by contrast, were simply desperate for something, anything, they'd be allowed to read. They don't care about the minor details and the minutiae of the world of these books, they're just seeking validation  for and by their subculture. So instead of cameos by otherwise absent but beloved minor characters, we get stunt casting, with Jack and Rexella, Bob Carlisle and Rebecca St. James.

"So you're researching the disappearance of these people," Rayford says to CamCam. He says it just like that, "these people" — not "my son," or "our children," just these people, as though this were an abstract puzzle to be considered dispassionately. "You say that you're interested in finding out what really happened to them. Take a look at this, it might help."

Rayford pops in the In Case of Rapture video and we see T.D. Jakes reciting 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 and explaining that this describes the Rapture that has just taken place exactly as those verses describe. Well, except for the part about the Lord himself coming down from heaven with a shout. Or the part about the the voice of the archangel and the trumpet of God. Or the part about the dead in Christ rising first. But apart from everything in verse 16, actually, it's exactly like what verse 17 describes.

Well, not exactly, but quite similar. Kind of. Almost.

Oh, and make sure you don't read the rest of the chapter. Or the chapters before and after this one.

"Some guy thinks the Bible has an explanation for the vanishings?" CamCam asks, dismissively. "Come on, those scriptures are so vague, they could mean anything."

Jakes/Billings only cited one passage, but CamCam says "scriptures," plural, because his lines here have nothing to do with Buck Williams in a particular time and place responding to a particular biblical passage. His lines here, rather, are meant to represent the views of everyone in every time and every place who has ever failed to accept the particulars of Tim LaHaye's brand of premillennial dispensationalism. In this specific situation, CamCam's protest makes little sense. The scripture the pastor cites can't mean just anything. I don't think it can even be stretched to mean what the pastor says it means.

But Jakes did accurately describe the millions of children and babies disappearing, so the moment that follows here is somewhat effective. "Something else I should tell you," Bruce Barnes says. "Pastor Billings vanished with the rest of them. I helped him make this tape three years ago."

Gasp!

It's odd that there's no soundtrack, no score playing here. Based on the over-the-top scoring accompanying the earlier Big Moments, I'd have thought the filmmakers would have followed Bruce's line there with something loudly redundant, possibly involving kettle drums. I'm guessing the lack of a score here has more to do with financial than artistic restraint.

This is the scene in the movie where a character is forced to suddenly confront and accept what kind of story they're in. The more outlandish and fantastic the premise of the story, the more genre-resistance we can expect from the character. And this story is quite outlandish and fantastical.

But CamCam has already seen more than enough to convince him of the premise he's facing here. By this point he really shouldn't be this resistant to what he's being told. The scene should be playing out more like this:

XANDER: Yep. Vampires are real. A lot of them live in Sunnydale. Willow will fill you in.

WILLOW: I know it's hard to accept at first …

OZ: Actually, it explains a lot.

CamCam can protest all he wants that the prophecies Bruce starts rattling off don't make any sense, but he should quickly realize here that the game is rigged, the story is what it is and whether or not it makes sense, he's stuck with it.

As Nurse Loretta bandages his leg there at New Hope Village Church, CamCam has his laptop running through Dirk's top-secret PowerPoint presentation. CamCam doesn't seem to have realized that he's putting their lives at risk. Nor has it yet occurred to him that the people who killed Dirk and Alan might be going after Ivy and her special friend next.

Bruce gets out his PMD Bible prophecy decoder ring and smugly explains that its tidy interpretations are both obvious and unquestionable. That Bushian smugness is the clearest sign yet that Bruce has really converted and become a real, true Christian. It is the hallmark of RTC-ism, the difference, I suppose, between knowing and believing.

The passages Bruce cites are nowhere near as tidy as he makes them out to be. Daniel chapter 7 is deliriously opaque, but clear enough that it can't really be stretched to fit Bruce's application. The consecutive reigns of 10 kings doesn't seem like either a direct or a symbolic equivalent for 10 tracts of barren land. And read Ezekiel 38 for yourself and decide whether it's really that close a fit for the flaccid nuclear assault we saw at the beginning of this movie.

For the most part, I've tried to avoid wading into exegesis and debates about the arcana of Tim LaHaye's theology, but Bruce's interpretation here of 2 Thessalonians 2 is so deeply weird and torturous that it bears a closer examination.

Bruce misquotes the passage — inserting the word "antichrist" where it cannot be found. But the weirdest thing here is his insistence that this passage is a prophecy about the rebuilding of the Temple. The passage says that the coming man of lawlessness "will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God." LaHaye and Bruce believe this was written by Paul sometime in the middle of the first century, yet they insist it is not a reference to the Roman emperor who, proclaiming himself to be God, destroyed Jer
usalem and the Temple in 70 CE. Rather, LaHaye and Barnes suggest, this is a reference to an Antichrist from the distant future who will, 2,000 or more years later, rise to power and rebuild the Temple just so he can then destroy it all over again. LaHaye and Barnes thus also believe that Paul deliberately avoids mentioning the destruction of Jerusalem, withholding that useful bit of information from James and Barnabas and all of his other friends in that city. I guess he didn't want to ruin their surprise.

The interpretation here, in other words, isn't merely wrong. It's warped and cruel.

But of course in the context of the fictional story being told in LBTM, it doesn't really matter whether or not any of the biblical interpretation or theology makes any sense. In the context of this story, all this biblical gobbledygook is just phlebotinum and technobabble. It doesn't have to make any more actual sense than all that stuff in Star Trek about dilithium crystals or tachyon pulses. It's necessary here only to persuade the audience to suspend their disbelief enough to accept the parameters and premises of the story being told.

This explains quite a bit about the Left Behind franchise. At their core, these books and movies take a storytelling device designed to suspend disbelief within the bounds of the story and they try to use to to instill belief beyond the bounds of the story.

It also doesn't help that Clarence Gilyard stumbles through the phlebotinum, at one point citing "Daniel 9, chapter 27." That's a pretty huge gaffe for this audience.

CamCam decides that all of this means he has to go back to New York to warn Chaim Rosenzweig not to share his magic formula with the Antichrist. Bruce could have advised him to stay to watch the rest of Billings' video, which goes on to describe, in intricate detail, everything that is going to happen over the next seven years. But like St. Paul, Bruce decides to withhold the most useful information in his prophecies and instead just feebly tells Buck not to ignore God "tugging at his heart."

CamCam limps off (limping on both legs, for good measure) cutting through the "emergency center" in the church's sanctuary. The place is inexplicably crowded, as though an earthquake or tornado had just torn through Carol Stream. Who are these injured people? Buck was there because of a car bombing and because he can't let the conspiracy catch him in a hospital. Were all of these people hurt in other car bombings? Are they all hiding from the conspiracy?

I'd guess that if we asked the filmmakers where these injured people came from, they'd answer that these were the people hurt in the post-Event accidents and crashes. But that was three days ago and we saw this same room a full 24 hours after the Event, completely empty except for Bruce and his paddle ball.

Back at the United Nations in Toronto, we have a study in quick and dirty set design. Say you have a scene with an official UN spokesperson, but you don't know what the UN flag or seal looks like and you don't have the budget to mock one up anyway. Not a problem. Just shoot your scene in the hallway or stairway of some municipal office that has its official seal on the wall, but shoot it all blurry so no one can see details. All those official seals pretty much look alike anyway.

Same thing with military uniforms.

Anyway, the spokesperson scene exists only to tell us that Nicole Carpathia has officially become the U.N. secretary-general. I thought that had already been established, but whatever.

CamCam is back at the UN — whether he flew there via Ken Ritz or the airlines are flying again we're not told, although Stonagal and Cothran are there too, so we know at least that the super-rich are able to fly in from London.

CamCam's headed to Chaim's office when he gets stopped by Cadaverous Security Guy, but CSG is overruled by a suddenly authoritative-sounding Hattie Durham. I don't know whether she's supposed to come across as a brainwashed podperson or if this is just Mrs. C's notion of a professional attitude, but in either case she ushers him in to see Rosenzweig.

Chaim Rosenzweig here stands as a surrogate for two things that don't really go together. On the one hand, he represents the nation of Israel. On the other hand, he represents a naive, almost messianic, faith in the United Nations. What is it about the long history of Israel's dealings with the U.N., one wonders, that leads the filmmakers to think their embodiment of Israeli nationalism should also be the embodiment of blind faith in the U.N.? This is vintage LaHaye-ism. He's obsessed with both Israel and the United Nations, but he's never allowed that obsession to cause him to actually learn anything at all about either of them apart from what he claims to know from "Bible prophecy."

There is one thing in all of this for which the filmmakers deserve a bit of credit. Unlike the novel, LBTM makes Stonagal out to be a credible red herring. The movie consistently portrays him as the prime suspect for Antichristhood, consistently also portraying Nicolae as a naive idealist being unwittingly manipulated by this evil man. That pays off in the Big Finale much better than it does in the book.

But I'm getting ahead of myself. CamCam convinces Rosey of the Conspiracy's plot to control the entire world's food supply and they decide toProductPlacement take this information to Nicolae.

Jesus said that God, "maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." And yea, verily, so too doth Steve Jobs maketh his products to be placed in the awful movies and in the good, and provideth laptops for the heroes and the villains alike.

This may be my favorite piece of product placement ever.

Nicolae flares his nostrils and chews some scenery and tells Buck, "Do not worry. You are under my protection now."

And CamCam — a globetrotting front-line journalist who, presumably, spent the past decade reporting from places like Sarajevo and Kigali — says, "Thank you," secure in the knowledge that the United Nations secretary-general has promised to protect him.

  • http://profile.typekey.com/boldfacelie/ practicallyevil

    Do I get a first post? Everyone must be busy reading the text and watching the movie.

  • Fraser

    I’m second. So I post harder!

  • cosmicdancer

    one wonders, that leads the filmmakers to think their embodiment of Israeli nationalism should also be the embodiment of blind faith in the U.N.?
    Hahahahaha! *pause* Hahahahaha!

  • http://d-84.livejournal.com cjmr’s husband

    This may be my favorite piece of product placement ever.
    25th anniversary of the Macintosh. Bow your head in the direction of 1 Infinite Loop.

  • Roy

    For the record, Stonagal and company were last seen at Casa Loma (http://www.casaloma.org) which, believe it or not, is also in Toronto, so it wouldn’t have been a particularly long trip to the United Nations in Toronto.

  • http://learningasigoalonginlife1.wordpress.com Catherine

    I can’t get over the actor playing Nicolae. It’s as if they couldn’t get Aaron Eckhart to play their blonde Antichrist, so they had to settle for this guy.

  • Jessica

    Maybe, ummmm, Toronto and New York (and therefore the UN) are all supposed to be IN Chicago? I mean, if the authors and filmmakers know so little about how the UN works why would we expect them to know where it’s located?

  • http://www.geocities.com/aunursa aunursa

    What is it about the long history of Israel’s dealings with the U.N., one wonders, that leads the filmmakers to think their embodiment of Israeli nationalism should also be the embodiment of blind faith in the U.N.?
    At least according to the book, this story takes place in a Fantasyland in which Israel has both annexed the West Bank and made peace with its Arab neighbors.

  • http://jamoche.livejournal.com jamoche

    @cjmr’s husband : 25th anniversary of the Macintosh.
    Wow. I’ve been programming them that long, too (well, summer 1984).
    And it just hit me that the Super Bowl ad quote is apt: As of this week, it’s not like 1984 anymore.

  • Chrissl

    I wonder whether the problem with 2 Thessalonians 2 is that the Roman emperor may have claimed to be God and *destroyed* the temple, but he did not (as far as we know) literally walk into the Temple one day, push his way into the Holy of Holies, and sit down on top of the Ark of the Covenant. Therefore (someone fond of “literal interpretation” might reason) the verse can’t refer to him, because he did not “set himself up in the Temple.”
    Also, I don’t think I’ve heard anyone who isn’t some flavor of evangelical Christian refer to the Bible as “the scriptures,” plural. (Anyone may, of course, provide a counterexample here… ;) Mostly other people call it “the Bible,” as far as I can recall. When a non-evangelical in a secular context says “the scriptures,” they mean the Bible, the Koran, the Bhagavad-Gita and so forth. The Bible is only one scripture.

  • greygelgoog

    It’s been pointed out before, but I feel it bears repeating.
    Nicky: “This marks the beginning of our seven years of peace.”
    CamCam (with an appropriate look of horror): “It can’t be…”
    I know. Peace, how very terrible. Why can’t we have the war and strife that Jesus wanted?

  • DarcyPennell

    You know he’s the Antichrist because the Apple logo is upside down on his computer.

  • http://users.livejournal.com/_dahne_/ Dahne

    I like Bruce Barnes’ hypnotized zombie look at the end of the scene. Let Jeee-sus into your heeeeaaaartt….
    Every time they say “tracts of land” I giggle, and they *just keep saying it*.

  • http://www.geocities.com/aunursa aunursa

    Chrissl: Mostly other people call it “the Bible,” as far as I can recall. When a non-evangelical in a secular context says “the scriptures,” they mean the Bible, the Koran, the Bhagavad-Gita and so forth. The Bible is only one scripture.
    Even then there can be confusion. The Protestant Bible? The Catholic Bible? The Jewish Bible? Evangelicals and most Protestants, speaking of “The Bible,” refer to one set of books they deem inspired … without acknowledging the existence of alternate canons.
    When a Christian opponent tells me, “It’s in the Bible”, my first response is, “Which Bible?”

  • Selcaby

    That PowerBook has the Apple logo upside down. Perhaps it’s the AntiMac.

  • Selcaby

    Darn! DarcyPennell beat me to it!

  • Turcano

    Based on the over-the-top scoring accompanying the earlier Big Moments, I’d have thought the filmmakers would have followed Bruce’s line there with something loudly redundant, possibly involving kettle drums.

    Or the scare chord from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

  • http://sketchesbyboze.blogspot.com Boze

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

  • SchrodingersDuck

    “This marks the beginning of our seven years of peace.”
    Ok, Nicky, the only way you could be any more blatant would be if you walked around with a neon sign saying “I’m going to start a war!” pinned to your head. Why not “our eternity of peace”? What does he know that the rest of the world doesn’t. Come to think of it, that must mean he’s read ahead and knows that the Battle of Armageddon is coming, in which case, why doesn’t he know that he’s going to lose?
    Actually, that could be an interesting idea for a story – the Antichrist knows he has no hope against God (since he is, let’s face it, God). The best he can do is strike a symbolic victory – prevent a prophesy from coming true. It could be something minor, anything really, but by circumventing the prediction, he makes a liar out of God. A simple one would be to outright refuse to create a Mark of the Beast. Then, either the prophesy is not true (and, by implication, is a lie), or God would have to do it himself (which would of course imply that he was actually the evil side). Either way, he’s struck one final blow at God before being thrown into Hell.
    Also, I fail to see how rebuilding the temple would be a symbol “for every man and woman – the whole of humanity”, given that it would involve destroying another that roughly 25% of the world’s population (that’s almost 2 billion people) consider one of the holiest sites in their faith. Why not rebuild the Hanging Gardens, or the Crystal Palaces? That’s a project everyone could get behind.

  • Chris

    There was one good line in this segment, when Nicolae says something about “every man and woman, the whole of humanity”. The usual idiom is “man, woman, and child”, but the filmmakers actually realized why they couldn’t say that.
    I love their grasp of bankruptcy law, where not only will no government bail out the bankrupt U.N. or even give it a loan, but some World Bankruptcy Court will force the U.N. (I thought it *was* the world government in the L&J-verse), not to sell its assets and distribute the proceeds to the creditors like a real bankruptcy, but to *turn over the assets themselves*.
    Never mind why the U.N. owns ten tracts of land large enough to be seen on a map of the *world* in the first place.

  • http://d-84.livejournal.com cjmr’s husband

    Apple logo is upside down on his computer.
    For those who don’t know, they used to look like that.

  • El Durazno de la Muerte

    “I helped him make this THREE YEARS AGO.”
    {BUM BOOM BUM BOOM BUM BOOM BDRDRDRDRDRUMMM!}
    “N…no…!”
    That would be a great place for the Kettle Drums of Staggering Revelation. (We might have to change the name for this movie.) I hope we at least hear the Glockenspiel of Certain Peril or the Discordant Strings of Ultimate Horror. Because, you know, the Corny Christian Pop of Scene Transition just doesn’t cut it.

  • Moderately Unbalanced Squid

    I’m always in awe of the amount of ignorance displayed about the world around them by the authors, but somehow I expected the filmmakers to correct many of those errors. Alas, it was not to be.

  • Dash

    Mac laptops have the apple logo upright when the laptop is opened–and did also, IIRC, when this film was made in 2000. Or is this a special AntiChrist laptop, with the logo … upside down!

  • Mau de Katt

    “I helped him make this THREE YEARS AGO.”
    I think the classic “Bah’ – dah’ – DUMMMMMM!!!” sting would be all that’s needed here. *g* Cliche characters, cliche scene, cliche sting.

  • Dash

    Oh crud! While I was looking up the appropriate youtube, everybody else got in with the upside-down logo observation. Sigh. Late as always.

  • Mau de Katt

    Ooooo! Or better yet, the “Reee! Reee! Reee!” scare sting from Psycho. Now THAT’s drama!
    “I helped him make this THREE YEARS AGO.”
    (Focus on CamCam’s stunned face) *Reee!* *Reee!* *Reee!*

    Now THAT’s drama!
    *snicker*

  • Mau de Katt

    okay, minus the mysteriously duplicated and redundant sentence….

  • http://jamoche.livejournal.com jamoche

    Mac laptops originally had the icon upright when you were looking at the closed laptop in front of you, but that made it upside down for everyone else when you opened it. I still occasionally set my closed laptop down the wrong way.
    Original iBooks: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/IBook_flavors.jpg

  • http://www.barkingreed.com josh barkey

    Hey, slacktivist. I’ve been thoroughly enjoying the dissection. One quibble… I think that Buck says “Thank you” to Nicolae before he tells him he’s under his protection, not after. It sounded to me like he was thanking him for sending on the information.

  • http://peanutsnraisins.livejournal.com/ peanutsnraisins

    The links to Daniel 7 and Ezekiel 38 aren’t working for me. I think something’s borked somewhere…

  • Leum

    Okay, I can’t take it anymore. Why has no one run with the “huge tracts of land”?
    But Stonagal, I don’t want it!

  • Amaryllis

    SchrodingersDuck Also, I fail to see how rebuilding the temple would be a symbol “for every man and woman – the whole of humanity”, given that it would involve destroying another that roughly 25% of the world’s population (that’s almost 2 billion people) consider one of the holiest sites in their faith.
    I believe there’s a line, later in the clip, where Chaim announces that “they” have conveniently discovered that Solomon’s temple sat next to the site of the Dome of the Rock. So hey, no problem!
    “You go to your church, and I’ll go to mine,
    But let’s walk along together.
    Our fathers built them side by side,
    So let’s walk along to – ge- ther.”
    And I am still not grasping the concept about these “ten tracts of land” and just why they’ll allow the Evil Conspiracy to control all the food in the world.

  • Angelika

    Just wondering about the ‘ten useless pieces of real estate’, which apparently include most of Argentina and Chile, Mexico, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, New Guinea, and the American Midwest. Even assuming that every living soul in the Bible Belt has been raptured, quite a bit of the marked territory is all but useless real estate, but densely settled and agriculturally quite productive without any Eden formula. And there must be something not yet mentioned to the Eden formula, if it can grow plants on the glaciers covering the middle of Greenland, which leaves the question, why isn’t Antarctica included in the ‘useless real estate’. Oh wait – that’s because of the great family values of the penguins, right?

  • http://theweaselking.livejournal.com/ JohnR

    You’ve got a bad bit of HTML in your link to Ezekiel. The link goes to
    “http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2009/01/%20http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezekiel%2038;&version=31;”
    when you actually want it to go to
    “http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezekiel%2038;&version=31;”

  • http://earcandleproductions.blogspot.com/ J Neo Marvin

    It would be a nice twist if the Dome Of The Rock is spared, but they level the Church Of The Holy Sepulchre to build the new temple. (Evil heathen laughter)

  • http://profile.typekey.com/ShifterCat/ ShifterCat

    At a party I was at recently, a busty girl was wearing this shirt.

  • http://earcandleproductions.blogspot.com/ J Neo Marvin

    I like Bruce Barnes’ hypnotized zombie look at the end of the scene. Let Jeee-sus into your heeeeaaaartt….
    I got a distinct Stepford Wives/Invasion Of The Body Snatchers vibe from that scene. The rather apathetic acting only reinforces it.
    Why has no one run with the “huge tracts of land”?
    I recall having good fun with that last week. Or was it the week before?
    Anyway, John Cleese’s portrayal of Lancelot in that scene is not unlike the Left Behind concept of God, when you get down to it.

  • http://profile.typekey.com/susancm/ Cactus Wren

    I’m still waiting for someone to notice that the Temple is (duh DUH duhhhh!) in the shape of an inverted cross.

  • http://earcandleproductions.blogspot.com/ J Neo Marvin

    I’m still waiting for someone to notice that the Temple is (duh DUH duhhhh!) in the shape of an inverted cross.
    Coo-uhl. Maybe Ozzy will perform at the opening ceremony!

  • Kemist

    Ok, Nicky, …

    Oh, drat, now I’m condemned to replay in my head each of the Nicholae scenes of this awful movie using Adam Sandler’s Little Nicky character.

  • vladimir mac

    “This marks the beginning of our seven years of peace.”
    This line is just so bizarre. Yea, it’s so CamCam can get hit with another blatantly obvious clue-by-four that even the dimmest of folks should be convinced by, assuming such a thing would be said. But even the dimmest of world leaders would never say, think, or aspire to such a thing. Permanent peace, or at least peace of indefinite and hopefully if things work out permanent duration. But to plan for specifically seven years of peace? He could even have said a seven year peace treaty, which could make sense, kind of like a temporary cease-fire, or a temporary treaty with the intent to renegotiate for a permanent settlement in the future. But “This marks the beginning of our seven years of peace”? Bad, bad writing: it just isn’t remotely close to being a plausible clue-by-four to hit a dim character with.

  • vladimir mac

    By the way, wouldn’t the loss of about a third of the world’s population, including all of its nonproductive, nonworking, nonfarming children, leave not only a massive oversupply of food in stores but also a massive overcapacity in food production, rendering a scheme to corner the world market on food a bit, well, moot?

  • Comrade Rutherford

    While I’ve heard that LBTM2 and LBTM3 have higher production values than LBTM1, this is one of the worst movies I have ever seen, and I went to film school!!! Seriously, what was the budget on this, $25,000? I worked on Street Trash which has much, much higher production values than LBTM and that film was only $500K. And we had melting bums!
    I went to one of the links from last week where the True Believers discuss how it’s the best movie ever. That exemplified exactly what Fred has been saying all along. It doesn’t matter how bad, or inconsistent or illogical this story line is, the RTCs fervently believe it’s true. They have faith!
    And I can not believe at how bad Kirk CamCam is as an actor. You can see where every single crew member is reflected in his ‘acting’.

  • vladimir mac

    “I don’t know whether she’s supposed to come across as a brainwashed podperson or if this is just Mrs. C’s notion of a professional attitude”
    That’s what I was wondering when I saw that scene: Is this good acting, or bad acting? Perhaps it is bad acting that accidentally resulted in a good and contextually appropriate performance of a brainwashed podperson.

  • SueW

    I am quite certain that the REAL Antichrist would use Windows.

  • NoMan

    Isn’t Cadaverous Security Guy the same character as Sinister Guy, destroyer of cars, monitors and potted plants?