Do all paths lead to God?

I want to address a question I'm asked quite a bit by catechists here in comments or, occasionally, via e-mail. I call them catechists because it doesn't seem that they're asking the question because they want to learn the answer, but because they already know the correct answer and they're quizzing me to see if I know it, too.

I don't. I don't even understand the question. I can't make sense of it.

The question is this: "Do you believe that all paths lead to God?"

I have a hard time figuring out what this could possibly mean given what I know about paths and what I think I know about God.

We Christians believe that one of the attributes of God is omnipresence. It's hard to know what to make of a question about paths leading or not leading to someone who is, by definition, everywhere.

"You hem me in, behind and before," the Psalmist says:

Where can I go from your spirit?
Or where can I flee from your presence?
If I ascend to heaven, you are there;
if I make my bed in Sheol, you are there …

That whole omnipresence thing really wreaks havoc with spatial metaphors like "all paths lead to God." But even apart from that, the question makes no sense not just because of the nature of God, but because of the nature of paths.

It could not be true that all paths lead to X even if there were only one single path, because the same path that leads to X would also, by virtue of being a path, lead away from X. That is how paths work.

The path outside my front door leads away from my house to the sidewalk and the street and all points beyond. The same path, of course, also leads to my front door. The trajectory is determined by the traveler, not by the path itself.

About 20 years ago I got the chance to hike along a very famous and ancient path — the road to Jericho. That same road, the same exact path, is also the road to Jerusalem or, in other words, the road from Jericho. Every step of the way covers the same ground on both roads because they are the same road, the same path.

We chose to hike the road to Jericho rather than the road from Jericho because, even though it was the same path, the latter route is a much more grueling walk. Jericho, you see, is 850 feet below sea level, while Jerusalem at the other end of the road is about 2,500 feet above sea level. So that road provides a vivid illustration of what is true for all paths — the experience of traveling on it varies according to the direction of the traveler.

That particular path is also the setting of a famous and wonderful story that illustrates the problem with asking whether or not any given path "leads to God." Everybody in that story is on the same path, headed in the same direction. But what they do along the way determines for each whether it is for them a path that leads to God or away from God.

A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell into the hands of robbers, who stripped him, beat him, and went away, leaving him half dead. Now by chance a priest was going down that road; and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. So likewise a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan while travelling came near him; and when he saw him, he was moved with pity. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, having poured oil and wine on them. Then he put him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him. The next day he took out two days' wages, gave them to the innkeeper, and said, “Take care of him; and when I come back, I will repay you whatever more you spend.”

The priest and the Levite in that story were on a path that led to God, but when they arrived, they passed by on the other side and it became, for them, a path away from God. They probably don't even realize who it was they just walked past. ("When was it that we saw you …?")

My catechists may be thinking at this point that I am just trying to escape the clever trap of their question — that I have taken us on a long detour along the Wadi Qelt as a way of avoiding giving them a straight answer. But I've invoked that famous road and the famous story set on it for the same reason that story was originally told: Because someone is asking the wrong question.

"Who is my neighbor?" the catechizing inquisitor asked Jesus.

"Be a neighbor," Jesus replied.

That's not an answer to the question he was asked. But Jesus wasn't giving an evasive answer to a straightforward question, he was giving a straightforward answer to an evasive question — the kind of squirrelly, lawyerly question we tend to ask when we've gotten so far from the point that we've started thinking that sitting around formulating correct answers to tricky questions is what we were called to do.

Questions like that are a path away from God. Whatever path you're on, God will meet you there. How you respond in that encounter matters far, far more than whatever path you happen to be on, or where you thought you were going, or whether or not the catechists think you have the correct answers to all the wrong questions.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/depizan depizan

    @Laima
    *offers hugs*

  • http://www.tproe.com/disco.htm Nicolae Carpathia

    I’ve heard from a number of people with Asperger’s, and some would say they suffer from it, and some would say they don’t. It seems to be like a lot of disabilities – some people really don’t like having it and want it to go away, and some people are fairly comfortable living with it and see it as part of who they are (and some people would like it to go but don’t see it as a big deal, and some people are ambivalent, and some people see it as difficult but an important part of them, etc.).

    A lot of maladies are taken this way by their sufferers, but Asperger’s is a special case, because its effects are so varied. There are a ton of different possible symptoms of Asperger’s, but no one individual subject has all of them, and there are a thousand possible combinations. Many people never even know they have it, since the symptoms they display aren’t the ones people normally associate with Autism.
    One person has the aversion to physical contact but not to eye contact, one person has the OCD but not the Tourette’s, some people have none of the above but still have the sensory issues and agoraphobia… there just aren’t that many syndromes that are quite as big a mixed bag.
    So, it’s not like other disabilities, because not only do some people have better coping skills, but some of us are just blessed with a batch of symptoms that are easier to cope with, that cause fewer problems in everyday life.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/depizan depizan

    My sympathies to all who are terrified by sleep. I can’t even imagine being existentially afraid of something I do pretty literally every day. I hope you manage to work it out somehow.
    I figured out the daydream solution pretty young. It’s a win/win, really. I spend some time enjoying my own fantasies and I don’t have to worry about my fear of not waking up, since I’m not thinking about it. I suspect it is also why my dreams generally are good, and frequently like the kind of adventure story stuff I daydream.
    So, it’s not as horrible as it sounded.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/ministerformagic Pius Thicknesse

    I don’t even grasp the idea of being terrified to sleep. I really don’t. It’s such a basic part of being a human that a world without sleep would be almost…too bizarre to imagine. :O

  • Caravelle

    Xavier :

    Interesting. I’ve always been skeptical of the thesis that videogames cause behaviour changes. Mostly because I’ve had experience playing everything violent, from Mortal Kombat to Hitman, and that didn’t make me any more of a broken individual than what I already was.

    I don’t think the issue is that it makes you a broken individual, I think the issue it that it puts you in an irritable mood after you get off the computer. I certainly noticed that behaviour in myself but I never could tell if it was caused by the gaming or by my father saying “get off that game you’ll be in a bad mood afterwards”. (the latter certainly didn’t help)

  • Flying sardines

    Great blogging as always Fred. Thanks.
    I really love the parable of the Samaritan and I also really love Isaac Asimov’s essay about it “Lost in Non-translation” which went into a lot of the contextual backdrop about it – & also Ruth’s idyll with Boaz that eventually led to the birth of King David and later Jesus.
    Asimov pointed out there :

    “The trouble is that the one word that is NOT translated in the Book of Ruth is the key word “Moabite,” and as long as it is not translated, the point is lost, it is lost in non-translation.
    The word Moabite [from Ruth's tale - it also applies for the word Samaritan -ed.] really means “someone of a group that receives from us and deserves from us nothing but hatred and contempt.” How should this word be translated into a single word that means the same thing to, say, many modern Greeks? Why, “Turk.” And to many modern Turks? Why, “Greek.”
    … We forget the point of the parable is entirely vitiated by the common phrase “good” Samaritan for that has cast a false light on who the Samaritans were. . . To the Jews [of Jesus’ time – ed.] the Samaritans were not good. They were hated, despised, contemptible heretics with whom no good Jew would have anything to do. Again, the whole point is lost through non-translation.
    …The Parable of the Good Samaritan clearly teaches that there is nothing parochial in the concept “neighbor,” that you cannot confine your decency to your own group and your own kind. All mankind, right down to those those you most despise are your neighbours.”
    -Pages 266-270 Isaac Asimov, “Lost in Non-translation” in ‘Magic’ anthology Harper-Collins, 1996. Italics original, [square brackets added.]

    I love that essay and those paragraphs & I couldn’t agree more.
    Do all paths lead to God? I don’t know either. I’m no expert & I won’t pretend to be. But I do kinda hope so.

  • Flying sardines

    Whoah. I should’ve read the comments for this thread. But, usual problem, .. so … many .. [bashful.] Sorry folks if I’ve repeated /interupted I just wanted to share that Asimov quote and source.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/jpc101280 Jason

    @Caravelle-
    I don’t think the issue is that it makes you a broken individual, I think the issue it that it puts you in an irritable mood after you get off the computer. I certainly noticed that behaviour in myself but I never could tell if it was caused by the gaming or by my father saying “get off that game you’ll be in a bad mood afterwards”. (the latter certainly didn’t help)
    Video games usually put me in a good mood afterwards, because it is a particularly engrossing medium and I get to experience a few hours of escape from reality. However my tastes tend towards games that aren’t particularly violent. Some sort of combat may be present but is generally not the main aspect of the gameplay and usually is not overly graphic.

  • http://www.etsy.com/shop/sunbowgems MercuryBlue

    Was it this thread where people were talking about inability to donate to Wikileaks? Twitter says it was an outage at Mastercard affecting all payment processors, not anything deliberate. I don’t know how to verify that, though.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/ministerformagic Pius Thicknesse

    @MercuryBlue: *cough* bullshit *cough*

  • http://profile.typepad.com/caraig Mink

    @MErcuryBlue: Considering how many other financial institutions have been explicitly separating themselves from WikiLeaks, I’m… disinclined to believe Mastercard. I have a feeling that they’re backpedaling because their servers are apparently currently under DDoS attack by [a group of people who may or may not be, a subset or the whole of, or who are calling themselves same, of] Anonymous (the Internet’s favorite boogeymen.)

  • http://redsixwing.dreamwidth.org Sixwing

    Re: Mastercard and Wikileaks:
    Apparently Mastercard DID stop payment to Wikileaks.
    BBC mentions it in passing here. Hmm.
    More research required.

  • Caravelle

    Was it this thread where people were talking about inability to donate to Wikileaks? Twitter says it was an outage at Mastercard affecting all payment processors, not anything deliberate. I don’t know how to verify that, though.

    Dunno, it worked neither yesterday nor a few hours ago, how long did this outage last ?
    An added wrinkle is that although the identical payment to my mother seemed to go without a hitch, when I looked today the money hadn’t been debited from my account. So maybe it’s just my bank being weird. They’re a good bank but it wouldn’t be the first time.
    Note that I wasn’t using Mastercard as such. I was doing a bank transfer, from a checking account associated with a mastercard, yes, but I when I asked I think someone here confirmed that such transactions occur between banks, the credit card company isn’t involved.

  • Hawker Hurricane

    Do all paths lead to God? I don’t know either. I’m no expert & I won’t pretend to be. But I do kinda hope so.
    Posted by: Flying sardines
    —————————-
    Not quoting the whole thing here, but yes, agree with all.
    But…
    When I pointed this out to a RTC shipmate in the mid-90′s, he said that “When Jesus said what you do for the least among you, he was refering to members of THE TRUE CHURCH*, not the general population. Not that a member of THE TRUE CHURCH would ever be thrown in prison, or be poor, or even sick unless his faith was weak and wavering.” To him, the Samaritan were Christians while the Jews were something contemptable.
    I met a lot of obnoxious people calling themselves “Christians”. It almost soured me on the whole brand.

  • http://redsixwing.dreamwidth.org Sixwing

    That was me talking about banks and card processing.
    I went and did some research, and it appears that MasterCard and Paypal, among other unnamed banks (at least in the articles I saw) did suspend payments to Wikileaks. They were then targeted by some major DDOS attacks, at least one of which caused an outage of the main MasterCard website, which is probably what that Twitter link refers to. MasterCard’s SecureCode service does appear to have gone down, but mainline card processing did not.
    AFAICT, PayPal processing wasn’t impacted, and neither was MasterCard’s, but neither company will process payments to WikiLeaks.
    You can find a big pile of links in my blog; didn’t want to put them here and deal with the Captcha.

  • http://redsixwing.dreamwidth.org Sixwing

    Oh, re: affecting all payment processors:
    I work for a payment processor. MasterCard did not have an outage affecting everyone yesterday; that kind of thing causes a big splash around here. Unless it was that SecureCode thing. But regular processing was up and running juuuuust fine.

  • Erl

    “Transporters don’t kill you and it really is the same person who arrives on the other side because Science.”
    (delurks)
    I wrote a story once (in an unrelated scifi universe) where the transporters do in fact steal your soul and drop it off in purgatory. It was still experimental and expensive, so purgatory was six billionaires sitting around bitching about what happened.
    It was an interesting piece, I thought, though it didn’t come together quite as well as I’d've liked.
    (relurks–paperward!)

  • Caravelle

    Erl :

    I wrote a story once (in an unrelated scifi universe) where the transporters do in fact steal your soul and drop it off in purgatory.

    Madeleine l’Engle’s A Swiftly Tilting Planet had her characters freaking out about cryogenics because what happens to the soul ? I don’t remember seeing this question asked anywhere else but I think it’s a really good point. Of course I derive the opposite conclusion her character does, but still a very good point.

    It was still experimental and expensive, so purgatory was six billionaires sitting around bitching about what happened.

    That sounds hilarious !

  • http://blog.trenchcoatsoft.com/ Ross

    Madeleine l’Engle’s A Swiftly Tilting Planet had her characters freaking out about cryogenics because what happens to the soul ? I don’t remember seeing this question asked anywhere else but I think it’s a really good point. Of course I derive the opposite conclusion her character does, but still a very good point.

    There’s an episode of ‘So Weird’ wherein a man is awakened from cryonic suspension, and has become strangely empty and disconnected, and eventually works out that his soul “thought his body was dead” and left. In the end, he vacuums up the soul of a kindly old man who is dying of old age.

  • http://www.agirlcalledraven.blogspot.com sarah

    @Caravelle: Was that *A Swiftly Tilting Planet* that cryogenics came up? I thought it was in one of the Austin books, in a conversation between Vicky and Zachary Gray? *Planet* was the book with Vespugia and time travel and Celts and..I really love that book.

  • Xavier

    I don’t think the issue is that it makes you a broken individual, I think the issue it that it puts you in an irritable mood after you get off the computer. I certainly noticed that behaviour in myself but I never could tell if it was caused by the gaming or by my father saying “get off that game you’ll be in a bad mood afterwards”. (the latter certainly didn’t help)

    Hence the “All-night-long gaming binges are fun once in a while, but they can wreck with a person if they become a habit. Believe me, I know.” part of the comment. Gaming is fun, like reading a book. But, like reading a book, too much of it can seriously make your life difficult (protip: don’t start reading reading LOTR during final-exam season).

    I wrote a story once (in an unrelated scifi universe) where the transporters do in fact steal your soul and drop it off in purgatory. It was still experimental and expensive, so purgatory was six billionaires sitting around bitching about what happened.

    But then where does the soul inhabiting the recently-transported body come from? A new one is created every time someone gets transported? A new one with the same memories of the recently-deceased one?

  • Caravelle

    @Caravelle: Was that *A Swiftly Tilting Planet* that cryogenics came up? I thought it was in one of the Austin books, in a conversation between Vicky and Zachary Gray? *Planet* was the book with Vespugia and time travel and Celts and..I really love that book.

    Ah you’re right, the title sounded right so I didn’t think twice but it’s actually “Troubling a Star” or something (the one where Vicky goes to Antarctica).

  • http://profile.typepad.com/jpc101280 Jason

    Speaking of gaming, after Christmas I will probably have a few months worth of Wii games to complete, but I am thinking of getting Mass Effect for the PC.
    I don’t normally like to play games on the PC, but the idea that I basically get to create the main character’s entire characterization and personality is irresistable to me. I think the PC version of the original is like 12 bucks on amazon and I need to double check to make sure I meet the system requirements, but is it worth it. I mainly like console games better just because I can play them in the living room on the couch.

  • Spearmint

    They were then targeted by some major DDOS attacks, at least one of which caused an outage of the main MasterCard website
    Commendable though this is, I can’t help but feel it would be more useful if they would find a way to funnel some money to Wikileaks instead.

  • Robyrt

    @Jason: Mass Effect doesn’t really let you create a whole personality, it lets you play a role of “intergalactic James Bond”. You’re always going to be saving the world, kicking down doors, and flirting with attractive members of your party, but you have some flexibility as to how you talk about it.

  • Xavier

    Speaking of gaming, after Christmas I will probably have a few months worth of Wii games to complete, but I am thinking of getting Mass Effect for the PC.
    I don’t normally like to play games on the PC, but the idea that I basically get to create the main character’s entire characterization and personality is irresistable to me. I think the PC version of the original is like 12 bucks on amazon and I need to double check to make sure I meet the system requirements, but is it worth it. I mainly like console games better just because I can play them in the living room on the couch.

    Eh, Mass Effect is incredibly overhyped. It looks pretty, but the story is mostly nonsense, and you haven’t all that much control over your character. If you want a game where you can choose your PC’s characterization, try Planescape:Torment. Preferably with the newest unnoficial patches. Now that’s an RPG.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/gdwarf GDwarf

    Mass Effect 1 is above-average, but not amazing.
    2 is very, very good, though not my favourite RPG.

  • http://www.agirlcalledraven.blogspot.com sarah

    @Caravelle: Yup, *Troubling a Star* is the Antarctica one. God, I love L’Engle. I wish that she were still alive. Her memoirs are great as well. I really love *Two-Part Invention.* And *A House Like a Lotus* (which is about Meg’s daughter) is one of my comfort books.

  • http://www.kitwhitfield.com Kit Whitfield

    I can hardly see what I have to offer a potential friend right now
    Just cruising by – but Laima, if you can’t see what you have to offer, I’d suggest that you’re a decent, intelligent, honest, brave, appreciative, interesting and pleasant person, and based on what I know of you from Slacktivist I’d say you had a lot to offer. A lot.
    Obviously it’s not up to me to tell you how to feel about yourself, and even if I tried it wouldn’t take, because self-esteem comes from the inside and we have to work our issues out for ourselves and in our own ways. But if you’re feeling valueless on the inside right now, please know that’s not at all how you look from the outside.

  • Erl

    But then where does the soul inhabiting the recently-transported body come from? A new one is created every time someone gets transported? A new one with the same memories of the recently-deceased one?
    Well . . . the story largely takes place in purgatory, so it’s not specified. Those who exit the transporter seem normal, more or less, though their passion is drained in some sense. I wanted them to lose something meaningful to the device, while still appearing more or less normal when they exited it–necessary for followup trips. So I wasn’t entirely clear on what that thing was.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/caraig Mink

    Xavier: It depends on which theologian or techno-mystic you speak with. Souls may be infinitely divisible; you will always have ‘a whole soul’ even if you split it in two; you then get ‘two whole souls.’ Fractional souls get into strange and disturbing territory, but you may already be there if you believe that parents provide half a new soul to a child in some metaphysical way, if there is not Guf from which souls are distributed to newborns. Alternatively, transporter clones may get a new soul from said Guf.
    I admit that the question of the soul — what it is, what it’s relation to the body is, what purpose it serves, WHY is it — is a troubling one, because I have little problem picturing memory and consciousness/cognition as electrochemical phenomena, making humans not much more than really smart animals; but I do believe in some sort of ‘continuance’ of the person beyond the decease and dissolution of the body. But darned if I can reconcile one with the other. Better philosophers than I have tried.

  • http://www.kitwhitfield.com Kit Whitfield

    Way back, but Izzy – how on earth is paisley supposed to be demonic?

  • Xavier

    Mink, all I can say is: souls are confusing stuff.

    Mass Effect 1 is above-average, but not amazing.
    2 is very, very good, though not my favourite RPG.

    True. Mass Effect isn’t a bad game. It’s mostly fun throughout its depressingly short play-time. But it isn’t “The best RPG evah!” that I often hear it referred as.

  • http://isabelcooper.wordpress.com Izzy, Whose Brain is Easily Sabotaged by Certain Things

    Mmm, Planescape: Torment. If I had the whole “selling my soul” option, more Black Isle games would be on the list.
    Dragon Age is also pretty nice. And I hear Baldur’s Gate is good, though I can’t download it, which frustrates me to no end: my God, BioWare, I’m *trying* to be honest and give you people money for your goods and services, but I draw the line at making me get up and go to a store or wait for the game to arrive in the mail and then, like, *have* the CD around and have to store it ugh IT IS THE TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY GET WITH THE DAMN PROGRAM.
    Kit: I’m not entiiiirely sure, but there was a site (demonbuster.org–do not go there without turning your sound off) run by some of the more, mmm, non-reality-based Christians out there which claimed that all problems were caused by demons*. (Diabetes? Ten-armed squid demons. I kid you not.) You could get these demons by coming in contact with “ungodly” things, like…paisley. (Because it’s…from India, I think? Maybe?) Also rainbows.
    *And you could apparently solve said problems by putting the demons “in the Box” and then filling aforementioned box with the blood of Jesus. This page was a kind of nonfiction Eye of Argon back in my college days.

  • http://www.kitwhitfield.com Kit Whitfield

    Have been reading back through the thread as far as page 5 (wow, it looks like I missed some drama!), but I’d like to tip my hat and share the thought I’m having about trolling…
    …which is that this board is actually very hard to troll successfully.
    The goal of a troll is basically to get a reaction out of people, but the underlying goal is usually to prove to someone or something how much smarter than you they are by getting you to waste your time.
    The posts I’ve been reading in response to Kiyu’s little comments have been so articulate, informed, passionate, principled and/or well written that they are the exact opposite of wasted time. Kiyu may be a silly kid with time of his/her own to waste, but has actually acted like the provebial grit in the oyster and provoked a whole lot of good writing and philosophy. Rather than being a dominant force, s/he’s turned into a productive inspiration.
    Which is to say that the people posting have put their time to good use no matter what Kiyu’s motivations were. Write posts that are worthwhile in themselves and you’re pretty much troll-proof.
    Mazel tov, guys.

  • Xavier

    Hey, are you guys seeing News about the latest cable where American ambassadors talk about how they’re going to lobby the Russian Duma against a law that threatens Visa and Mastercard profits?
    Here:

    1.(C) SUMMARY: The latest version of the Russian draft law “On the National Payment System” contains several provisions that would disadvantage U.S. businesses. The draft law would set up a National Payment Card System (NPCS) including its own payment card that banks and payment card companies could join voluntarily. Most likely to be a consortium of state-owned banks, the NPCS operator would process the domestic payments for all members and collect processing fees estimated at $4 billion per year. The draft also forbids sending abroad any payment data for domestic transactions. Should international payment card companies such as Visa and MasterCard chose not to join the NPCS they would have to set up the infrastructure to do their Russian payment processing domestically. END SUMMARY.
    (…)
    4.(C) While joining the NPCS would be optional for both banks and international payment card companies, membership has its privileges. If Visa and MasterCard choose to join the NPCS, they would not have any role in domestic transaction processing, but the bank-issued NPCS cards could be “co-branded” with Visa or MasterCard. When the cardholder used his card abroad, the transaction theoretically would go through the normal Visa or MasterCard processing that takes place outside of Russia. While XXXX said such a deal is a possibility, it would require negotiations to specify this approach in the draft law.
    (…)
    5.(C) In the proposed draft of the law, if international payment card companies choose not to join the NPCS, they will have to set up on-shore processing centers. But neither Visa nor MasterCard representatives, which together have 85% of the Russian payment card market, are willing to say whether they would be willing to do so. MasterCard‘s Head in Russia, XXXX XXXX, said MasterCard would have to “build and assess the business model of setting up on-shore processing” before it could reach a decision. The draft law stipulates that international payment card companies will have one year to establish processing centers inside of Russia. (Note: Currently no international companies have processing centers in Russia.) A ban on sending abroad payment data for purely domestic transactions will become effective two years after the law enters into force.
    (…)
    8.(C) This draft law continues to disadvantage U.S. payment card market leaders Visa and MasterCard, whether they join the National Payment Card System or not. If they join, the NPCS operator will collect the fees, leaving them to collect processing fees only when card-holders travel abroad — a tiny section of the market. If they do not join but choose to compete with NPCS cards, they will have to set up payment processing centers in Russia, a very large investment in itself, and compete against a system likely backed by the largest Russian state banks. While the draft legislation has yet to be submitted to the Duma and can still be amended, post will continue to raise our concerns with senior GOR officials. We recommend that senior USG officials also take advantage of meetings with their Russian counterparts, including through the Bilateral Presidential Commission, to press the GOR to change the draft text to ensure U.S. payment companies are not adversely affected. END COMMENT.

    Explains quite a lot, I think.

  • http://lonespark.livejournal.com Lonespark

    The more I find out about that tax cut deal, the less I like it!

  • hapax, who doesn’t care for corduroy, either

    how on earth is paisley supposed to be demonic?
    Have you ever LOOKED at paisley? What are all those little mutated microbe paisles supposed to represent, anyhow? How do you know that they’re not slithering off your shirt, through your skin, and INTO YOUR SOUL?

  • Mark Z.

    Izzy: You could get these demons by coming in contact with “ungodly” things, like…paisley. (Because it’s…from India, I think? Maybe?)
    Oh, it’s worse than that.

    In the PAISLEY PRINT PATTERN, you have a connection with
    CATHOLICS
    THE COUNTRY OF INDIA (WITH ALL THEIR GODS)
    GOAT HAIR (GOAT IS THE SYMBOL FOR THE DEVIL)
    PRAYER RUGS
    JESUITS
    CULTS
    SEERS
    MAGICIANS
    OCCULT

    In case the connection to SEERS, MAGICIANS, and OCCULT is unclear: Paisley prints feature a shape that sort of resembles a comma. In music theory, there’s an interval called a Pythagorean comma, which is the difference between twelve perfect fifths and seven octaves and is a frequency ratio of about 1.0136, but the point is that it’s called the Pythagorean comma, and therefore commas are linked to Pythagoras, who was an esoteric Greek philosopher, and the capital of Greece is Athens, which is also a city in Georgia, whose state fruit is the peach, which is native to China, which is exactly what Osama bin Laden was eating off of while he was plotting to destroy the Twin Towers.
    (I assume you meant demonbuster.com, compared to which demonbuster.org is a paragon of rationality.)

  • http://profile.typepad.com/timonin Mike Timonin

    Baldur’s Gate, for download, entirely legally, and well worth the price:
    http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/baldurs_gate_the_original_saga
    They have BG 2 as well, and Planescape:Torment, and Neverwinter Nights…