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Philippians 2:3-8

Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility regard others as better than yourselves. Let each of you look not to your own interests, but to the interests of others. Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
who, though he was in the form of God,
did not regard equality with God
as something to be exploited,
but emptied himself,
taking the form of a slave,
being born in human likeness.
And being found in human form,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to the point of death—
even death on a cross.

  • http://www.ghiapet.net/ Randy Owens

    OK, completely OT, but I swear I’m not just doing this to get the coveted First Post: Oddly enough, in the wake of Jobs’ death, I saw a few weak jokes about iAgnotology.  I had no idea what this word referred to, and I hadn’t gotten around to looking it up yet.  Then, as I was reading this post, suddenly “agnotology” jumped out at me from the word cloud over on the right.  So, now I at least have some vague notion what that was about.  Thanks for the enlightenment, Fred!

  • http://www.ghiapet.net/ Randy Owens

    OK, completely OT, but I swear I’m not just doing this to get the coveted First Post: Oddly enough, in the wake of Jobs’ death, I saw a few weak jokes about iAgnotology.  I had no idea what this word referred to, and I hadn’t gotten around to looking it up yet.  Then, as I was reading this post, suddenly “agnotology” jumped out at me from the word cloud over on the right.  So, now I at least have some vague notion what that was about.  Thanks for the enlightenment, Fred!

  • Matri

    Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility regard others as better than yourselves.

    *looks at republicans* Huh. This is an alien concept to them.

  • Matri

    Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility regard others as better than yourselves.

    *looks at republicans* Huh. This is an alien concept to them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYIMSCWWLA5XTAYXL3FXNCJZ7I Kiba

     iAgnotology.  I had no idea what this word referred to, and I hadn’t gotten around to looking it up yet.

    Agnotology is, according to the definition I found, the study of culturally-induced ignorance or doubt, particularly the publication of inaccurate or misleading scientific data.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYIMSCWWLA5XTAYXL3FXNCJZ7I Kiba

     iAgnotology.  I had no idea what this word referred to, and I hadn’t gotten around to looking it up yet.

    Agnotology is, according to the definition I found, the study of culturally-induced ignorance or doubt, particularly the publication of inaccurate or misleading scientific data.

  • Anonymous

    The next time you don’t know the meaning of a word, pull up Google, then search for “define: [word]“.

  • Anonymous

    The next time you don’t know the meaning of a word, pull up Google, then search for “define: [word]“.

  • Amaryllis

    Well, true. But, speaking only for myself here, the concept may not be alien but the implementation isn’t easy.

  • Amaryllis

    Well, true. But, speaking only for myself here, the concept may not be alien but the implementation isn’t easy.

  • Amaryllis

    Now Tom said “Mom, wherever there’s a cop beatin’ a guy
    Wherever a hungry newborn baby cries
    Where there’s a fight ‘gainst the blood and hatred in the air 
    Look for me Mom I’ll be there
    Wherever there’s somebody fightin’ for a place to stand
    Or decent job or a helpin’ hand
    Wherever somebody’s strugglin’ to be free
    Look in their eyes Mom you’ll see me.”

    The highway is alive tonight
    But nobody’s kiddin’ nobody about where it goes
    I’m sittin’ down here in the campfire light
    With the ghost of old Tom Joad

    -Bruce Sprinsgsteen

  • Amaryllis

    Now Tom said “Mom, wherever there’s a cop beatin’ a guy
    Wherever a hungry newborn baby cries
    Where there’s a fight ‘gainst the blood and hatred in the air 
    Look for me Mom I’ll be there
    Wherever there’s somebody fightin’ for a place to stand
    Or decent job or a helpin’ hand
    Wherever somebody’s strugglin’ to be free
    Look in their eyes Mom you’ll see me.”

    The highway is alive tonight
    But nobody’s kiddin’ nobody about where it goes
    I’m sittin’ down here in the campfire light
    With the ghost of old Tom Joad

    -Bruce Sprinsgsteen

  • hapax

    Bit o’ trivia here — the passage that Fred Clark puts in poetic form here is generally considered to be from an older Christological hymn (sometimes called “the kenosis hymn” from the Greek word of “emptying”) that Paul is quoting to demonstrate his point.

    It is of great interest to me, personally, because many of the Greek terms used in the (reconstructed) original poem mark some of the earliest efforts to frame the Jesus-story in terms of the NeoPlatonic myth of the (descent and return) of Sophia.

    Therefore, I am somewhat surprised that he cut off the passage at the climactic turning point — the “eucatastrophe” in Tolkien’s terms — where after Paul’s interpolation of “even death on a cross”, the hymn goes on to exult:

    For this God raised him on high
    and bestowed on him the name
    which is above every other name.

    So that at the name of Jesus
    every knee should bend,
    in heaven, on earth and under the earth,

    And so every tongue should proclaim
    “Jesus Christ is Lord!”
    to the glory of God the Father

    But maybe that’s the point.  Maybe we shouldn’t be looking up on high for the Word of God, but like Tom Joad says, instead be listening to and looking into the eyes of the hungry, the downtrodden, the rejected, and even into those condemned to a shameful death.

    And remember what Paul commands two chapters later: “Whatever is true, whatever is
    honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is pleasing,
    whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence and if there is
    anything worthy of praise” we should be fixed on that.

  • hapax

    Bit o’ trivia here — the passage that Fred Clark puts in poetic form here is generally considered to be from an older Christological hymn (sometimes called “the kenosis hymn” from the Greek word of “emptying”) that Paul is quoting to demonstrate his point.

    It is of great interest to me, personally, because many of the Greek terms used in the (reconstructed) original poem mark some of the earliest efforts to frame the Jesus-story in terms of the NeoPlatonic myth of the (descent and return) of Sophia.

    Therefore, I am somewhat surprised that he cut off the passage at the climactic turning point — the “eucatastrophe” in Tolkien’s terms — where after Paul’s interpolation of “even death on a cross”, the hymn goes on to exult:

    For this God raised him on high
    and bestowed on him the name
    which is above every other name.

    So that at the name of Jesus
    every knee should bend,
    in heaven, on earth and under the earth,

    And so every tongue should proclaim
    “Jesus Christ is Lord!”
    to the glory of God the Father

    But maybe that’s the point.  Maybe we shouldn’t be looking up on high for the Word of God, but like Tom Joad says, instead be listening to and looking into the eyes of the hungry, the downtrodden, the rejected, and even into those condemned to a shameful death.

    And remember what Paul commands two chapters later: “Whatever is true, whatever is
    honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is pleasing,
    whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence and if there is
    anything worthy of praise” we should be fixed on that.

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

    The notion of stressing how that other group over there isn’t as humble or as willing to regard others as better than them as I am is giving me an ice-cream headache.

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

    The notion of stressing how that other group over there isn’t as humble or as willing to regard others as better than them as I am is giving me an ice-cream headache.

  • At

     “Whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is pleasing, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence and if there is anything worthy of praise” we should be fixed on that.

    Biggest problem with that is that humans are very good at saying “what I do and like and approve of is proper and right”.

    I don’t think you will find anyone whose politics or attitudes you disagree with who won’t say “I’m doing what is commendable and worthy of praise”.  Of course they think it is or they wouldn’t be doing it!

  • At

     “Whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is pleasing, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence and if there is anything worthy of praise” we should be fixed on that.

    Biggest problem with that is that humans are very good at saying “what I do and like and approve of is proper and right”.

    I don’t think you will find anyone whose politics or attitudes you disagree with who won’t say “I’m doing what is commendable and worthy of praise”.  Of course they think it is or they wouldn’t be doing it!


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