Chick-fil-A Flustercluck: The Day After

“Had there been a Fox News back in 1960, I’m sure there would have been a Woolworth’s Lunch-counter Appreciation Day, too.”

“The people who organized boycotts of these bigots and the places they represented back then were similarly accused of ‘intolerance’ at the time.”

If Mike Huckabee had declared yesterday ‘Homeless Appreciation Day,’ would the response have been even half as large and loud?”

“It’s a systemic pattern of discrimination for a certain way of being a ‘family.’”

“Please stop redefining Christianity as a superficial cultural tribe that self-identifies through its particular tastes in facial hair, ‘relevant’ fashion, political stances, and the culture war loyalty test of the week.”

Bullying low-wage workers is never cool.

“‘I call it hater appreciation day,’ said Andrew, who asked that his last name be withheld out of fear he’d be fired. ‘It’s very, very depressing.’”

“Realize that behind this debate are real people — kids like the girl in Kentucky who fear for their safety, women like Sally Ride’s widow who are denied their spouse’s Social Security benefits.”

“Yes, Jane would know what you thought of her, and Jane would be right.”

To fear the anger and resentment of your neighbors for being who you are is not the freedom that the American dream promises.”

“Supporting the treatment of gays and lesbians as criminals is not compatible with being a free country with protection of freedom of speech, any more than slavery or segregation were.”

“One of the cases involved Aziz Latif, a former Chick-fil-A restaurant manager in Houston, who sued the company in 2002 because he was fired a day after refusing to participate in a group prayer to Jesus Christ at a company training program. Latif is a Muslim.”

A dog whistle-y way to say ‘God Hates Fags,’ topped with two pickles and served on a bun.”

Wayne Self: This isn’t about mutual tolerance because there’s nothing mutual about it.”

If we agree to disagree on this issue, you walk away a full member of this society and I don’t. There is no “live and let live” on this issue because Dan Cathy is spending millions to very specifically not let me live. I’m not trying to do that to him.

Asking for “mutual tolerance” on this like running up to a bully beating a kid to death on the playground and scolding them both for not getting along. I’m not trying to dissolve Mr. Cathy’s marriage or make his sex illegal. I’m not trying to make him a second-class citizen, or get him killed. He’s doing that to me, folks; I’m just fighting back.

All your life, you’re told to stand up to bullies, but when we do it, we’re told we are the ones being intolerant? Well, okay. Yes. I refuse to tolerate getting my ass kicked. “Guilty as charged.”

But what are you guilty of? When you see a bully beating up a smaller kid and you don’t take a side, then you are taking a side. You’re siding with the bully. And when you cheer him on, you’re revealing something about your own character that really is a shame.

Dallas Stevens: I was undone

As I spoke, I became overwhelmed and started to cry.

To my surprise, a woman who wore a “gay” American flag came to me and hugged me as to comfort me.

I was undone.

Here I was trying to show kindness, and it was being shown to me.

Although she had no idea that I am not a big hugger unless I know you and we are very close…

Either way, it set my heart on fire.

I still do not know how to process this.

  • ako

    Once again, a post snuck in under the wire. 51.

  • SherryLevine

     You can start with the Univ. Decl. of HR

  • Lori

     Seriously? You’re/i> referencing the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? That’s hilarious.

  • Lori

     

    Perhaps, but it’s largely the sentiment that’s expressed in general on
    this blog and on  probably just about every other homosexual agenda
    blog. 

    By that standard of evidence the supporters of CFA Appreciation Day can be proven to all be hateful homophobes because some folks posted some really, really nasty Tweets about it.

    http://storify.com/homophobes/top-50-homophobic-chick-fil-a-tweets?utm_source=embed_header

    Given your complete inability to process evidence or construct a logical argument or deal with reality I’m surprised you’re able to get through the day without falling in a hole or some other similarly self-destructive behavior.

    I really do pity the unfortunate people who have to deal with you IRL and I wish them the best of luck avoiding you if they can and surviving you if they can’t.

  • Lori

     I was thinking about this one

  • EllieMurasaki

    Yes, because I should absolutely be nothing but kind and considerate to people who are actively hurting me.
    ======
    It’s
    what you ask of conservatives. No matter how destructive, dishonest,
    harmful and violent people with a homosexuality agenda are, which is
    part of a larger liberal agenda for sexuality and relationships, you
    want social conservatives to sit there and watch the harm and violence
    and say nothing but acquiesce.

    Provide me five instances in which permitting two people of the same sex to marry has harmed anyone at all.

    Now look at the second section of http://www.eqil.org/civil.html and tell me how forbidding two people of the same sex from marrying is helping anyone at all.

  • EllieMurasaki

    Article 2 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.

    Article 6. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

    Article 7. All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

    Article 16. (1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

    Holy shit did Sherry just admit that she is wrong to attempt to deny same-sex couples the right to marry? Because sexuality is certainly one of those other statuses in Article 2, Article 6 says gay folk are people too, Article 7 says gay folk need to be treated like people, and Article 16 says everyone has the right to marry.

    (I assume they meant ‘everyone has the right to marry’, anyway. Worded this way it would seem to exclude folk who don’t identify as ‘man’ or ‘woman’. But this document was written in NINETEEN FORTY-EIGHT. Gender politics weren’t really on the radar then.)

  • EllieMurasaki

    all the lies told by liberals and all the crimes committed by people with a homosexuality agenda

    I want to be able to marry another woman; I am fairly certain that means I have “a homosexuality agenda”. Therefore, you said upthread that I have committed crimes. I want to know what they are.

  • veejayem

    I shall put that in my diary. See you there, AnonymousSam ~ but not too soon if you don’t mind!

  • veejayem

    Tom Baker ~ I forget which number Who he was ~ was excellent. He had quite a long run and fought all the traditional enemies, e.g. the Daleks, so that’s a good place to start.  The world and is’s wife went wild over David Tennant. My personal favourite is Christopher Ecclestone (#9) but that’s a rather idiosyncratic choice. But his series introduced Rose and Captain Jack, and had a couple of really creepy episodes (The Empty Child).

    Don’t forget, the more recent series will, understandably, have the best special effects.

  • veejayem

    Ah yes, that accent. “All planets have a north!”

  • Jared Bascomb

    And yet you’ve done it many times in this thread.

  • Jared Bascomb

    ETA in response to Sherry’s comment: 
    Lying about what other people think is not particularly a sign of intelligence.

  • Jared Bascomb

    Our Sherry seems to have a connection between widespread violence and the LGBT community and/or liberals in general, and that those crimes are essentially covered up. I offer this as a (possibly anecdotal) response:

    Two weeks ago, my city held its Pride Parade and Festival. By most accounts, nearly 200,000 people attended. Many of them were LGBT, many were not. It was held in the part of the city that has the highest LGBT population density.

    By Sherry’s reasoning – that there are millions of LGBT people committing violent crimes - the event took place in the most violence-ridden part of our city. We should have been overrun with violence.

    But guess what? There were *no* arrests for violent crime that weekend in the immediate vicinity of the events and that were related to that event.

    Two explanations:

    1) The weekend’s LGBT Pride events were peaceful, and no arrests occurred
    2) There were murders, robberies, rapes (both same- and opposite-sex), child molesations, and other horrible crimes galore but the Police and ~200K witnesses, including the media, saw and ignored these criminal activities and actively covered them up and let the perps go free.

    If our Sherry chooses the latter, she’s clearly delusional and I think she needs professional help, the sooner the better. 

    What’s the dollar amount up to? I’m willing to prolong this thread to maximize my contribution . . . And GLSEN is also a really good place to donate.

  • Rhubarbarian82

    Once again, a post snuck in under the wire. 51.

    I’m gonna call mine at 55, then. Congratulations, Sherry, I hope you’re proud of your donations.

  • SherryLevine

    See, you were right, conservatives are evil and liberals are angels. And you are surprised that 5 million people went to CFA and were happy not to meet people like you there?

  • SherryLevine

    Yes, I am. You might learn something from it…

  • SherryLevine

     :-) Did you hear that several politicians who respect civil rights went to CFA and sent Rahm their receipts?

  • SherryLevine

     There you go. You are completely ignorant about stats on all crimes, but don’t let that stop you calling me crazy. You’re too clever to do anything else.

  • No-one

    Can you show us these stats please?

    Because so far, after half a hundred posts calling us haters, you have yet to even provide a made-up number.

  • SherryLevine

     
    all the lies told by liberals and all the crimes committed by people with a homosexuality agenda

    I want to be able to marry another woman; I am fairly certain that
    means I have “a homosexuality agenda”. Therefore, you said upthread that
    I have committed crimes. I want to know what they are.

    Ellie – try to grasp the meaning a simple English sentence correctly.

    “all the crimes committed by people with a homosexuality agenda”

    means there are a large number of people with a homosexuality agenda who have committed crimes, but not all people with a homosexuality agenda have committed crimes.
    I hope you have managed now.

  • AnonymousSam

    Careful, if you allow the distinction between homosexuals and homosexuals who commit crimes, then you come close to admitting that you can’t paint all homosexuals with the same brush. You’re really bad at this trolling thing. You actually made me laugh at your last reply!

  • EllieMurasaki

    Let me get this straight. I am being denied the right to marry the woman I love, not because I have done anything wrong and not because she has, but because other people who happen to have something in common with the two of us have done wrong things.

    There are straight criminals! There are cisgender criminals! There are criminals of both sexes, all genders, and every color skin! NO MARRIAGE FOR ANYBODY!

  • SherryLevine

    You know, I have research data that shows that people who are too stupid to look up a stat on their own can’t understand them.
    You can always prove me wrong, if you’d like. But so far, after years of research, I have been proven right so far every single time.
    Empirically tested, never fails, like the force of gravity. I think this blog will provide yet more data confirming my previous findings.

  • SherryLevine

    that’s understandable.
     since you think all conservatives evil, it’s natural for your superior mind to think I can’t distinguish between anybody simply because you can’t…

  • SherryLevine

    EllieMurasaki : “Let me get this straight.”

    We’re waiting for that. LOL
    Apparently you have some issues going on that can only allow you to spout strawmen nonsense and getting anything straight is just too decent for you.

  • SherryLevine

    Where is Fearlesson? I was waiting for him to come back and lecture me on how HORRIBLE my views on rights were… I guess he’s busy – I’m sure he won’t disappoint later though… 

  • EllieMurasaki

    The only reason you have given for why I am not allowed to marry another woman is that gay people commit crimes. Given that no one is proposing denying straight people marriage on the basis that straight people commit crimes–hell, no one is even proposing denying convicted felons marriage–that is simply not a good enough reason. So how about you explain the actual reason why I am not allowed to marry another woman.

  • ConservativeWhitebread

    Hey SherryLevine!

    So what are your thoughts on yaoi

  • Jared Bascomb

    >>There you go. You are completely ignorant about stats on all crimes, but don’t let that stop you calling me crazy. You’re too clever to do anything else.<<
    Sherry, I pointed out a REAL situation in YOUR violence-ridden world, where NO violence – even of the mildest kind – occurred, and you're calling me out on how *clever* I am on crime statistics?
    There were ~200,000 violent-crime inclined people (according to you) in attendance in an area that you claim should be violent-crime infested, and NO arrests for violent crime during the Pride Parade and Festival, occurred.Are you asserting that there were all sorts of violent crimes committed that weekend and *everyone* – all ~200K people present – ignored them? A huge conspiracy among ~200K people AND the Police AND the local media (including FoxNews) to cover up a massive outbreak of violent crimes committed by LGBT people? If so, Sherry, you need help. You really do. I don't know where you live, or what your upbringing has been, but it's apparent that you fear a boogeyman behind every door, under every bed, and that that boogey(wo)man is  a queerperson.

    Really – get help. Or you're going to wind up as That Crazy Lady Down the Street.

    BTW, I never called you crazy, but thanks for calling me "clever". I take that as a compliment – I can solve some pretty complicated crossword puzzles in under 20 mintes. You, on the other hand, are an ignoramus.  

  • Jared Bascomb

    @Whoever referred to Sherry as Aunursa’s sister — That’s just wrong. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-McGraw/100001988854074 Patrick McGraw

     Richard Nixon’s expansion of socialized health care is the main reason I’m still alive. Without it, I would have never had access to dialysis, organ transplantation, medication, or psychotherapy.

  • Jared Bascomb

    >>From Sherry
    Sherry: “all the lies told by liberals and all the crimes committed by people with a homosexuality agenda
    I want to be able to marry another woman; I am fairly certain that means I have “a homosexuality agenda”. Therefore, you said upthread thatI have committed crimes. I want to know what they are.
    Ellie – try to grasp the meaning a simple English sentence correctly.
    “all the crimes committed by people with a homosexuality agenda”
    means there are a large number of people with a homosexuality agenda who have committed crimes, but not all people with a homosexuality agenda have committed crimes. I hope you have managed now.”<<
    —-
    Not wanting to speak for Ellie, but I have NO idea what you're saying here.
    Sherry – Are you claiming that all people who have a "homosexuality agenda" (whatever that is) are criminals?

  • AnonymousSam

    I prefer thinking people with specific names are evil. The rest can be relegated into a nebulous realm of “What in the actual fuck are they thinking?”

    Dear, don’t try ad hominem, it just doesn’t work. Wrong demographic, especially me. I spent the majority of my life until my mid-twenties being physically abused to the point that it severely impaired my emotional development. I have antisocial personality disorder. I don’t really do emotion. I’m a little ball of id who giggles when it’s tickled, but generally doesn’t feel a lot of anything, good or bad.

    Compounding matters, at some point or other, something happened which caused damage to my temporal lobe, so my short-term memory is pretty awful. You, dear, I won’t even remember in about a week’s time. It’s taken months of seeing people in this site on a regular basis to start to learn their names, and even then, I tend to remember people by their stories, not their identities. For example, there’s a woman here who’s been living with physical and medical difficulties for several years now because of the difficulty of affording effective treatments, but I’d be buggered if I can remember if that’s Lori or someone else (sorry Lori, if I have you mixed up!)

    That’s people I like.

    I couldn’t care less about you. You’re a trifling matter, fragment of underdone potato, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more.

    Klondike Bar, you don’t even know which part of yourself is missing.

  • Jared Bascomb

    >>Ellie – try to grasp the meaning a simple English sentence correctly.
    “all the crimes committed by people with a homosexuality agenda”
    means there are a large number of people with a homosexuality agenda who have committed crimes, but not all people with a homosexuality agenda have committed crimes. <<
    What crimes? Simply being homosexual?

    Oh, and while you're at it, please present me with a copy of the "homosexual(ity) agenda". I seem to have misplaced mine . . . 

  • AnonymousSam

    The funny thing is, Democrats were the ones who tried to voted against his plans. Funny how things change. Part of why I don’t consider myself a Democrat or aligned with any political party — that and the Democrats don’t lean far enough left for my taste.

    Then again, I still blame Nixon for the state we’re in, as far as the medical system goes. The University of Virginia has the magnetic tapes from Nixon’s private discussions and I’ve had a chance to listen to them. The talk he had with his adviser on the HMO bill is disgusting. The sad, sorry thing about it is that the only reason he passed the bill was because he was too lazy to think of an excuse not to, and he asked his adviser for his opinion and decided to go with that.

  • PJ Evans

     Based on your previous posts, you don’t understand it.
    Dunnin-Kruger FTW!

  • PJ Evans

     True. Aunursa is smarter and can actually answer questions.

  • Jared Bascomb

    >>You know, I have research data that shows that people who are too stupid to look up a stat on their own can’t understand them. 
    You can always prove me wrong, if you’d like. But so far, after years of research, I have been proven right so far every single time.<>Empirically tested, never fails, like the force of gravity. I think this blog will provide yet more data confirming my previous findings.<<Confirmation bias, much?

  • PJ Evans

    The only ‘homosexuality agenda’ I’ve ever heard of was ‘do laundry, do grocery shopping, mow lawn, make sure kids do homework’  and so on.

  • ConservativeWhitebread

    Now now, let’s not try to push facts on SherryLevine.  Clearly they’re all false and based on bahahahahahahaaa

    oh man.

  • Jared Bascomb

    Re-editing because cut&paste doesn’t seem to work right now:
    SHERRY: You know, I have research data that shows that people who are too stupid to look up a stat on their own can’t understand them. 
    You can always prove me wrong, if you’d like. But so far, after years of research, I have been proven right so far every single time.
    RESPONSE: But you haven’t proven yourself right, despite numerous opportunities to do so.SHERRY: Empirically tested, never fails, like the force of gravity. I think this blog will provide yet more data confirming my previous findings.RESPONSE: Confirmation bias, much? 

  • ako

    52 as of the time you asked, 61 as of now.  (If the number gets high enough, I’m also bowing out, but I’m actually finding this kind of an interesting personal challenge in trying to determine how high I can go and have it be an affordable donation, as opposed to a “Not even causing myself minor financial inconvenience” donation.

    Obviously, this is a different line for everyone, and we appear to have  persistent troll, so anyone else joining feel free to bow out wherever your personal line is.)

  • Jared Bascomb

    Hey, AnonSam – Congrats on remembering a line from Macbeth!

  • Jared Bascomb

    Yep. Comparing this troll to Aunursa does a disservice to Aunursa.

    AND Aunursa’s dissed her.

  • Jared Bascomb

    You forgot Take out the cat-litterbox. It’s one of the uglies of gay life.

  • http://jamoche.dreamwidth.org/ Jamoche

    Don’t forget, the more recent series will, understandably, have the best special effects.

    Well, they’ll have the more expensive ones. Sometimes better, sometimes not. Frex the Psychic Circus sense of claustrophobic spookiness wouldn’t have been so awesome if they’d had the budget to make sets instead of draping fabric everywhere, and a lesser budget would’ve spared us the “towing planets with the TARDIS” scene. (I feel the same way about the Star Wars prequels.)

  • AnonymousSam

    Sometimes the best work comes from small budgets. I remember a Humphrey Bogart movie (I think it was The Maltese Falcon) — there’s a scene where Bogart goes into an adjacent room and the light shifts to project his silhouette on the wall, showing him pouring a drink. I love the cinematography in that.

    Nowadays, the directors simply would have had the camera follow the actor into the next room, where another set would be put together in a facsimile of whatever room it was supposed to be. In procuring higher budgets and using them to create a more realistic atmosphere, they’ve lost effects like that.

    It’s two steps forward, but how many steps back is up to debate…

  • http://twitter.com/jclor jclor

    You know, I have research data that shows that people who are too stupid to look up a stat on their own can’t understand them. 

    Short: people who make claims but don’t provide citations are idiots.

    This person is obviously mentally ill, because she is now trolling herself.

  • http://eternalbookshelf.wordpress.com/ Ani Sharmin

    @93fda2eb37d9f349de25e8c70bed90d3:disqus Sorry to hear what you went through. I can’t even imagine. Someone quoted your comment in a comment on another blog (because the original post had mentioned employees who work at CFA) and I just wanted to come here and express my sympathies.


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