Chick-fil-A Biblical Family of the Day

Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy: “We support biblical families.”

Today’s Chick-fil-A Biblical Family of the Day: Abram & Sarai & Hagar (Genesis 16:1-6)

Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, bore him no children. She had an Egyptian slave-girl whose name was Hagar, and Sarai said to Abram, “You see that the Lord has prevented me from bearing children; go in to my slave-girl; it may be that I shall obtain children by her.”

And Abram listened to the voice of Sarai. So, after Abram had lived for ten years in the land of Canaan, Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her slave-girl, and gave her to her husband Abram as a wife.

He went in to Hagar, and she conceived; and when she saw that she had conceived, she looked with contempt on her mistress. Then Sarai said to Abram, “May the wrong done to me be on you! I gave my slave-girl to your embrace, and when she saw that she had conceived, she looked on me with contempt. May the Lord judge between you and me!”

But Abram said to Sarai, “Your slave-girl is in your power; do to her as you please.” Then Sarai dealt harshly with her, and she ran away from her.

  • PandaRosa

    Why not? It’s not like straights have had such a great track record of it. 

  • EllieMurasaki

    Getting rid of marriage entirely…I can kind of see that. I don’t think it would work, because too many people are too fond of the legal advantages of being married, but I can see it. Getting rid of mixed-sex marriage and keeping same-sex marriage? That would fuck with straight people and straight-leaning bi people and trans people as badly as having mixed-sex marriage but not same-sex marriage currently fucks with gay people and gay-leaning bi people and trans people. How about not.

  • PandaRosa

    No, because straights should know how it feels to have even the most basic rights being denied. Bis and Trans (sounds like a bike race!) would be allowed to marry, but not pure straights. Only fair.

  • Carstonio

    While I think any member of a majority would benefit from being in a situation where his or her basic rights are denied, what you’re proposing is simply a revenge fantasy. The solution to denying rights to one group is not to switch the group involved, but to safeguard rights for all groups.

    Not long ago I had the experience of being in a male-dominated country that spoke a different language. I was the only male in the group and I had the least knowledge of that language, yet all the servers and clerks ignored the females and tried speaking to me. I realized that such things probably happen in the US all the time without the language barrier and I hadn’t noticed them.

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

     

    straights should know how it feels to have even the most basic rights
    being denied. [..] Only fair.

    Well, it’s a step in the direction of fairness, but only a small step.

    Afterwards, perhaps all of us (queer, straight, whatever) can be rounded up and have all of our possessions destroyed, so we can know how it feels to have those rights denied, and then have our lives taken (slowly enough that we see it coming, so we can have those rights denied as well).

    Only fair.

  • EllieMurasaki

    Yes. This. Much as I value fairness, I do not actually want to live in Harrison Bergeron.

  • Mark Z.

    Okay, progressives, listen up.

    Please decide whether “You should know how it feels to have YOUR rights trampled” is part of your political agenda or not. This game of “Ha ha, it’s just a rhetorical flourish–but no, seriously, we should do this” grows tiresome. Revenge and justice are incompatible. Pick one.

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

    Echoing a very dear friend of mine, I frequently observe how very, very fortunate I am that life is not fair.

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

    I’ll get right on that just as soon as you tell me who speaks and doesn’t speak for your preferred political position.

    In the meantime, I’ll go on accepting that in any group, there will be individuals who say stuff I disagree with, and that the collective beliefs of most interesting groups are more than a little fuzzy around the edges, and that this applies to groups I identify with just as much as any other.

  • Carstonio

    No question that this type of deliberate injustice shouldn’t be part of a political agenda. That’s separate from wanting people who have privilege to feel and understand what it’s like to lack that privilege. That would be a good exercise for a college sociology class or a workplace training on diversity.

    My wife and I once visited a resort town and realized that it was a favored vacation spot for gay and lesbian couples – the first time I had seen such couples holding hands in public. I realized that no one gives it a second thought if I hold my wife’s hand in public, and those couples should be able to do the same anywhere. Particularly without that bullshit claim that the couples a’re “forcing their sexuality on everyone else.”

  • EllieMurasaki

    Particularly without that bullshit claim that the couples a’re “forcing their sexuality on everyone else.”

    I’m personally fond of the claim that a same-sex couple wearing wedding rings are “flaunting their sexuality” while my mixed-sex parents doing the same are not.

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

     

    I’m personally fond of the claim that a same-sex couple wearing wedding
    rings are “flaunting their sexuality” while my mixed-sex parents doing the same are not.

    Yeah. I usually encapsulate this as “straight couples have ‘family,’ queer couples have ‘sex’.”

  • BaseDeltaZero

    Okay, progressives, listen up.

    Please decide whether “You should know how it feels to have YOUR rights trampled” is part of your political agenda or not. This game of “Ha ha, it’s just a rhetorical flourish–but no, seriously, we should do this” grows tiresome. Revenge and justice are incompatible. Pick one.

    It is not.  It is the political agenda of a handful of idiots and internet trolls.  There is a difference.

  • paleotectonics

    Thank you, Mr. Jworx. Could you elaborate?

  • reynard61

    “The whole thing is like an especially bad episode of the Jerry Springer show.”

    Frankly, the whole Bible is a lot like a bunch of Jerry Springer show transcripts novelized, badly edited, and collected in book form.


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