No, no, no — we were fine with D’Souza’s racism, but the adultery is upsetting

LifeWay Christian book stores still carry Dinesh D’Souza’s books. For now.

The journalistic scoop belongs to Warren Cole Smith of the very conservative World magazine, so we’ll quote from his report first:

About 2,000 people gathered on Sept. 28 at First Baptist North in Spartanburg, S.C., to hear high-profile Christians speak on defending the faith and applying a Christian worldview to their lives. Among the speakers: Eric Metaxas, Josh McDowell, and — keynote speaker for the evening — best-selling author, filmmaker, and Christian college president Dinesh D’Souza.

Dinesh D’Souza says anti-colonialism is un-American. He even says this in D.C., in a city named after George Washington.

D’Souza’s speech earned him a standing ovation and a long line at the book-signing table immediately afterward. Although D’Souza has been married for 20 years to his wife, Dixie, in South Carolina he was with a young woman, Denise Odie Joseph II,* and introduced her to at least three people as his fiancée.

Finally, near 11 p.m., event organizer Tony Beam escorted D’Souza and Joseph to the nearby Comfort Suites. Beam noted that they checked in together and were apparently sharing a room for the night in the sold-out hotel. The next morning, around 6 a.m., Beam arrived back at the hotel and called up to D’Souza’s room. “We’ll be down in 10 minutes,” D’Souza told Beam. D’Souza and Joseph came down together, and Beam took them to the airport.

The next day another conference organizer, Alex McFarland, distressed by D’Souza’s behavior, confronted him in a telephone conversation. D’Souza admitted he shared a room with his fiancée but said “nothing happened.” When I called D’Souza, he confirmed that he was indeed engaged to Joseph, but did not explain how he could be engaged to one woman while still married to another. When asked when he had filed for divorce from his wife, Dixie, D’Souza answered, “Recently.”

Amy Sullivan describes “The Right-wing Rivalry Behind” that scoop:

Needless to say, this sort of thing is frowned upon in the conservative religious circles in which D’Souza is usually celebrated. So it is perhaps unsurprising that the story was broken by Warren C. Smith, a writer and associate publisher for the evangelical World magazine. The publication has a history of covering problems within the evangelical world, and it has not shied away from stories about preacher scandals or church abuse of women. But this particular story may have interested the magazine for a different reason: World’s editor-in-chief is Marvin Olasky, the sometime Bush advisor who is no fan of D’Souza.

Olasky served, briefly, as provost of The King’s College. He resigned shortly after D’Souza became the school’s president. Read the whole thing for Sullivan’s take on the nasty history between these two nasty men.

Christianity Today’s report notes that “D’Souza has regularly appeared in CT’s pages.” One example of that is CT’s report on D’Souza’s hiring at King’s, which emphasized that the conservative activist’s Roman Catholic faith should not preclude him from membership in the evangelical tribe:

D’Souza’s wife, Dixie, is an evangelical, and the family has attended Calvary Chapel, a nondenominational evangelical church in San Diego, for the past 10 years. He has been invited to speak in several churches and colleges, including Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church and Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University.

“I do not describe myself as Catholic today. But I don’t want to renounce it either because it’s an important part of my background. I’m an American citizen, but I wouldn’t reject the Indian label because it’s part of my heritage,” D’Souza said. “I say I have a Catholic origin or background. I say I’m a nondenominational Christian, and I’m comfortable with born-again.”

He said that his views align with the Apostles’ Creed and C. S. Lewis’s Mere Christianity.

That’s the imprimatur — the stamp of approval.

But D’Souza wasn’t embraced by the evangelical tribe just because he affirms the creeds and C.S. Lewis. What made CT and King’s College and the rest of mainstream evangelicalism decide that D’Souza was one of us was his political history — a former policy aide in the Reagan White House, D’Souza is fiercely opposed to abortion, gay rights, feminism and progressive taxation.

As Sarah Posner said, “D’Souza’s … rise in the evangelical world is due in no small part to his conspiracy-minded claims about President Obama’s ‘Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior.’”

Yes, conspiratorial warnings about Africans and anti-colonialism contributed to D’Souza’s legitimacy among evangelicals.

Bruce Garrett notes some of D’Souza’s odious political history:

How the man who, while editor of the Dartmouth Review, penned a racist parody of African American students titled “This Sho Ain’t No Jive Bro” and later outed a gay student using stolen mail between members of the Dartmouth Gay Student Alliance can in any sense be labeled a Christian is something confederate Christianists can explain I suppose.

Those two themes — racism and anti-gay sentiment — have endured as the hallmarks of much of D’Souza’s “scholarship.”

Alvin McEwen highlights a 2008 article of D’Souza’s titled, “Gay Rights vs. Democracy,” in which he pulls the man-on-dog nonsense.

Here is D’Souza’s idea of scholarship: “Why doesn’t the Fourteenth Amendment protect the fellow who wants to walk down the aisle with his poodle on the grounds that ‘I love my dog and my dog loves me’?” (What is it about the idea of consent that confuses these folks so much?)

Grace at Are Women Human? echoes Garrett’s observation, noting — savoring — the irony that D’Souza’s adultery has done what his nasty racism and homophobia never did, diminished his standing amongst evangelicals. The entire post — a Snoopy-dance of schadenfreude — is great fun, but the kernel of it is summed up in this one tweet from Grace:

Does it matter than D’souza peddles racist, colonialist lies? Nope. But he shared a hotel room with a woman he’s not married to! OH NOES

Or, as she writes in the post itself:

Sarah Posner writes for Religion Dispatches that this (presumed) sex scandal may spell the end for D’Souza’s once rising star. Note, not the fact that he’s been peddling racist and colonialist lies to white Christians for fun and profit for the past forever, but because of what’s assumed about his marriage and sex life. PRIORITIES.

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* Brian Tashman at Right Wing Watch quotes from a post by Odie Joseph II at Smart Girl Politics, which bears the unfortunate title of “Whatever Happened to Good Ole Hypocrisy?

Feminists and liberals … tore the traditional family to shreds until they reduced us to the shining bastion of zoological (but even animals aren’t this bad and do not depend on the state to care for them) cesspool equality that we have now in every American ghetto and which is seeping out into the middle and upper classes in less animated ways.

Her bogeymen are just like those of her boyfriend: Black.

As women spearhead the demise of the ideal, the alternative to hypocrisy, they spearhead the demise of social order as we know it and love it. Henceforth, all of us will be staring down the barrel of life in a hip hop video or government-funded project. …

Buzzfeed snagged a cached copy of Odie Joseph’s blog (which disappeared when the story broke), which reveals her to have been a fan of D’Souza’s books — and of Ayn Rand.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chrisalgoo Chris Algoo

    Hi Ginny,

     Would you mind reading this? It’s short and entirely relevant.

    http://www.stufffundieslike.com/2012/08/being-without-sin/

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    In Matthew 9:11-13, Jesus’ disciples were asked, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and ‘sinners’?”  On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.  I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”  In essence, Jesus was saying that everybody is living in sin if they have not surrendered all to Him, and everyone is in need of His healing and His salvation if they want to have eternal life.  He didn’t tell the tax collectors and sinners that they were fine the way they were.  He didn’t join them in their sin in an attempt to relate.  He wasn’t down with how they were living.  He boldly declared that they needed His healing and His salvation! 
    “We are saved by faith alone, but not by faith which is alone.  That is, we are saved, not by anything we do, but by grace.  Yet if we have truly understood and believed the gospel, it will change what we do and how we live.  Unlike cheap grace, which means going to church and hearing that God just loves and forgives everyone, so it doesn’t really matter much how you live, anyone who truly understands how God’s costly grace comes to us will have a changed life.  Costly grace changes you from the inside out.  Actions must follow what one believes, else one cannot claim to believe it.”  ~Dietrich Bonhoeffer

    The humanitarian sentiment of the postmodern church makes them give that which is holy to the scornful and unbelieving.  As exemplary Bonhoeffer said, “Costly grace is costly because it costs a man his life, and it is grace because it gives a man the only true life.  It is costly because it condemns sin, and grace because it justifies the sinner.  Above all, it is costly because it cost God the life of His Son:  ‘ye were bought at a price,’ and what has cost God much cannot be cheap for us.  The only man who has the right to say that he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ.  Grace simply means discipleship.”  

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    It’s sad you can’t take a joke about Lunch Meat’s name, Lori.

  • Consumer Unit 5012

     

    rationalizing how Gingrich was a better family man than our current President.

    man what?

    How can anyone possibly torture a rationalization enough to support THAT conclusion without it dying?

  • Lori

    What’s sad is that you can’t come up with any better excuse for your own rudeness and lack of Christian behavior than the tired old “It was a joke. Why don’t you have a sense of humor?” That’s what every jerk says when they’ve been rude.

  • AnonymousSam

    Buh bye lonely obot fanboy

    are you five years old?

    You have an interesting streak of hypocrisy. Try treating people like rational human beings for a little while and see how quickly it becomes possible to be taken seriously. Then you might actually stand a chance of getting people to consider an alternate possibility.

    Refusal to do this, of course, carries an implicit “I’m a troll throw rocks at me” message.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    because the majority of folks these days are mean, due to living in this raunchy society.

    I bemoan the coarsening of human behavior too, but I don’t automatically put myself up on a pedestal in the process.

    it’s laughable how intolerant everyone is towards genuine disciples of
    Jesus Christ, you know, those who believe in costly grace.  Costly
    because it cost Jesus His life!

    And yet strangely, your life is not in danger.

  • Consumer Unit 5012

    Ginny, just a quick reminder:  Last time I checked, the Bible doesn’t ACTUALLY say that Ronald Reagan was the second mortal incarnation of God.

     

    Devout Christians do not advocate the ruthless slaughtering of the most defenseless and vulnerable among us!

    Psalm 137:9.

    Devout Christians do not have ornaments with the face of Chairman Mao hanging on the people’s Christmas tree!

    I see you’re one of those gullible people who believes every bizarre slander the GOP could urp up about the Clintons.  How cute.

    Devout Christians are not chums with Bill Ayers and Hugo Chavez.

    I’m sorry, where in the bible are they condemned by name?

    I’m guessing in your world, Real True Christians don’t hang around with lepers, prostitutes, or tax collectors either, do they?

      Devout Christians do not wear rings for 30 years that proclaim, “There is no god but allah.”   

    9_9

    You do know that “Allah” is the Arabic word for “God”, right?  And I’m pretty sure this is just more hysterical bullshit by the same hatemongers who brought us the whole Birther thing.

  • Obotsarelonelyfools

    i am the furthest thing from a hypocrite that is possible.

    im a lifelong insider dem telling the truth.

    the rest of what you say – i dont give a fig about.

    im not trying to make friends with or influence you obamacrats.

    im only responding to you and yours idiotic comments to me.

  • Obotsarelonelyfools

    maybe ill be nice to you after obama loses.

    better give it about a year though – when i want to win back the house and senate in 14.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

     Devout Christians do not advocate the ruthless slaughtering of the most
    defenseless and vulnerable among us!  Devout Christians are not bought
    by the money of homosexuals!  Devout Christians do not have ornaments
    with the face of Chairman Mao hanging on the people’s Christmas tree!
     Devout Christians are not chums with Bill Ayers and Hugo Chavez.
     Devout Christians do not lie to the nation about Planned Barrenhood
    doing mammograms!

    Holy crap I don’t EVEN.

    The first? I would almost take you for an animal welfare advocate if it weren’t for the fact that right-wing Christians usually use such terms as a code for OMGABORTION.

    The money of homosexuals? I LOL in your general direction! I may be a bisexual, but trust me when I say that I haven’t got money to give anyway so you need not concern yourself with that!

    Chairman Mao christmas ornaments? Are you serious? Do you even realize how stupidly absurdly alarmist you sound? Sure, some unreconstructed Communist might have such ornaments, but most of them these days seem to at least pay lip service to disavowing Stalin and Mao, so they’d have Lenin ornaments, or Trotsky.

    Who the fuck is Bill Ayers?

    Hugo Chavez. I may not be a total fan of his, but the man was legitimately elected. Even the Venezuelan opposition concedes that. And to be honest, given the way other Latin American countries continue to be interfered with by external agencies (A Canadian mining company was recently implicated in financing a right-wing defection from a ruling coalition in Paraguay to topple a Chavez-style leader, for example), Chavez has some reason to still be rather bombastically caustic about the USA and the West.

    Planned Parenthood may not do mammograms because they … gee, I wonder … maybe they don’t have the equipment?

    That said, I’m doubting you even legit called a PP at all and that you’re just making that up.

  • AnonymousSam

    So what you’re saying is “I’m not stupid! You’re stupid! STUUUUpiiiiid!”

    Right then. Piss off, troll.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    You know, I never really took D’Souza for much of a Christian. I  had always heard of him as a breathlessly gushy apologist for being rich as balls and doing fuck all to help the poor.

  • Lunch Meat

    In essence, Jesus was saying that everybody is living in sin if they
    have not surrendered all to Him, and everyone is in need of His healing
    and His salvation if they want to have eternal life.  He didn’t tell the
    tax collectors and sinners that they were fine the way they were.  He
    didn’t join them in their sin in an attempt to relate.  He wasn’t down
    with how they were living.  He boldly declared that they needed His
    healing and His salvation!

    That…actually doesn’t respond to anything I said. In fact, you are just making your double standard more obvious. Why are you boldly declaring that Obama, Fred Clark and me are not fine with how we are, and that we need God’s healing and salvation for what you believe is unChristlike behavior, but smoothing over D’Souza’s obvious sins and arguing that we should be nice and his behavior is no one’s business but his own?

  • http://twitter.com/FearlessSon FearlessSon

    It’s actually flowers, but in icon size I think the consensus was that it looks like a bison.

    Really?  I always thought it looked vaguely like an exotically colored bird.  

  • Obotsarelonelyfools

    you came to me fanboy.

    not the reverse.

    again, i dont give a F what you think about anything.

    enjoy the coming bitterness.

    R 52 O 47

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    If I endure to the end, I shall be saved.

  • Consumer Unit 5012

     

    you came to me fanboy.

    not the reverse.

    Um…  NO.  You came to this forum, and started stinking up the place.

    And if you think for an instant Rmoney is going to be better for workers than Obama, you must be very gullible.  Or possibly Chinese, since that’s where Romney and his buddies are sending all our jobs….

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    I saw the ornament with evil Chairman Mao’s face hanging on our tree in the OBAMA White House, thank  you very much.  This is still the U. S. of A. right? Obamao is bent on fundamentally transforming the U. S. of A., even though, at the same time, he purports to  love it.  Convoluted thinking much?  What if he told Michelle he wanted to fundamentally transform her.  Would she feel loved?  Au contraire, he would be sending a clear message that he did not love her.  Thanks for calling me cute.

  • Consumer Unit 5012

    With all your ranting about “Devout Christians”, I have to ask… are you planning on voting for the Mormon in the election?

    (Amazing how all it took for the Fundamentalists to memory-hole every nasty thing they’ve said about the Kolob devil-cult was a Mormon on the R ticket.  :D )

    Devout Christians do not lie to the nation about Planned Barrenhood
    doing mammograms!  Presidential much?  I rang up two of their slaughter
    houses yesteday to schedule a mammogram.  When I was told they do not do
    them, I asked them why our illustrious president and the head of PB are
    both spreading the lie that that do.

    For those of you wondering what she’s blathering about:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2012/10/thousands-call-planned-parenthood-asking-for-imaginary-mammograms/

    Yeah, Obama screwed up on that one.  PP only recommends mammograms, not provides them, apparently.

  • Consumer Unit 5012

     Yeah, it’s SO horribly RUDE of her to argue BACK when you’re being an obnoxious troll.  9_9

    As long as you’re raving about what “Devout Christians” will and won’t do:  Will “Devout Christians” rip people off on the stock market?  Will “Devout Christians” waterboard prisoners?  Will “Devout Christians” make life worse for the poor and sick?  Should “Devout Christians” bomb foreigners? 

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Yes, I’m serious about the Obamaos having a Christmas ornament with evil Chairman Mao’s face hanging on our tree in the White House.  I saw it.  

    Comforted am I to hear you personally don’t have money to use to further the sinful homosexual agenda.  I surely wish Tim Gill didn’t!

    Bill Ayers is a bomber who tried to kill many and he is NOT locked up!  He and Obamao have been chums for decades.  

    Yes, I did ring up two different Planned Barrenhoods yesteday, one in my hometown in VA and one where I’m living now.  But people will always believe what they want to believe, no matter what the truth is.  Hello, Obamao knows Planned Barrenhood has no mammography equipment and yet, our illustrious president told 65 million of us watching the debate on Tuesday night that they do mammograms!  Cecile Richards, the CEO of Planned Barrenhood has also spread that fat, ugly lie!  Cecile and Obamao are close, conniving, evil chums.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Not apparently, they do NOT do mammograms.  Period.  Never have.  They do not have the equipment, and Obamao knows that.  So does the head of Planned Barrenhood, Cecile Richards, but she also freely spreads the conniving lie!  Obamao and Cecile are two cozy peas in a pod.  It’s not blathering.  It’s exceedingly significant that our illustrious president freely told such a sociopathic lie!

  • http://twitter.com/FearlessSon FearlessSon

    Respectfully Miss Allen, before last week I have never heard of Mister D’Souza’s name.  I have hardly known of him long enough to make such judgement about his character, or find schadenfreude in his present entanglements.  I cannot really take revenge on someone who has (to my knowledge) not harmed me.  

    Frankly, I care not what is in Mister D’Souza’s heart.  I cannot see into his heart, I can only make inferences based on his behavior, and given my lack of acquainted with the man, I would hesitate to make any such assertions about his character at this point.  All I can judge him by is his actions, and so far the best public record of those is what he has written.  However, his writings so far do not speak highly of him to me.  For example, I find his rather “This Sho Ain’t No Jive Bro” distasteful.  From what I have read of his recent documentary about President Obama, I have serious doubts about the trustworthiness of his scholarly rigor.  He may have a “good heart”, but that is not really relevant to me, that is between him and God.  

    I do not really see how this parallel’s Amanda Todd’s case, no one here is trying to personally torment Mister D’Souza.  As I said before, the potentially adultery is not that big an issue to us.  Besides, bullying only happens when the weak are tormented by the strong.  I would not regard Mister D’Souza, given his social alliances and influential media presence, to be particularly weaker than us.  

  • Consumer Unit 5012

     

    I saw the ornament with evil Chairman Mao’s face hanging on our tree in the OBAMA White House, thank  you very much.

    Citation needed.  This sounds like WorldNutDaily’s delusions at its finest.  For one thing, I remember that same false witness being borne against the Clintons.

    Obamao is bent on fundamentally transforming the U. S. of A., even though, at the same time, he purports to  love it. 

    You mean the same way the Religious Right keeps ACTUALLY trying to do?

    If Obama is bent of ‘fundamentally transforming’ this country, why are things pretty much the same now as they were 4 years ago?  Still none of that Sharia Law the Bush fanclub were soiling their trousers over, Rush Limbaugh is still blathering away on the air, and the Koch Brothers still haven’t had their show-trials and executions yet. 

    So, yeah, I’m calling bullshit on this particular republican meme.  I know that to the current crop of Birchers running the GOP, Obama LOOKS like some sort of wild-eyed radical leftist, but they say that about everyone ‘left’ of Spiro Agnew. Pretty much everyone outside The Bubble thinks he’s a centrist at most.  Thud, the only reason this election isn’t a foregone conclusion yet is because of most of the ACTUAL wild-eyed Liberals who volunteered and voted for Obama in 2008 have been disappointed by how much compromising he’s done with the Ameritaliban, and how many godawful Bush policies he’s continued.

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

     > Who the fuck is Bill Ayers?

    This is the Bill Ayers he’s referring to.

    He was a big deal for a while during the ’08 campaign, as other candidates were trying to imply that Obama supported domestic terrorism, much as some folks on this thread try to imply various other things about Obama by claiming connections to various disliked individuals.

  • VMink

    Well, moderately on-topic: Dinesh D’Souza has resigned from his position as president of The King’s College.

    You may now commence blaming the liberal media.  I’ll fire up some popcorn.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Okay then, if it’s not bullying, it’s group evil.

  • Obotsarelonelyfools

    forum?  god you tools are annoying.

    im not “in” a forum – im sitting down on the water at  my beach house with my ipad.i commented on some bs about D’souza on the net.  i dont know or care a bit about you or your looney concepts about a “forum” that somehow leads you to speak in the royal “we”.Plus – I know that Romney will be pushing policies that could cost us jobs.

    He has very bad views on intl trade issues.  I know they are bad because they are same exact policies that your president has been pushing.This lying sack of shitzz has signed 4 new trade deals and is pushing along secret talks for the new pacific rim deal that is Nafta on steroids to 11!  

    Of course you dont know or care about that – because youre just another – circle jerk – internet “blogger” fanboy who only knows the spin and soundbites that have been chewed up and spit into his mouth by the obama campaign, his web gurus and the fake democrats on MSNBC.  (most of who slimed and slammed Clinton/Gore and elected Bush btw)Im a 100% labo left dem – let me tell ya fanboy – every labor guy I know thinks Obama is a worthless piece of merde.  Like me, they were all for the Clintons in 08.  It was you naive fools that picked Barry – not us.

    Thats why what you say or think doesnt mean 1 f-n thing to me.We’re done.  I know you will feel the need to comment back and “win” – but I wont read it.But do it for the “forum” – show them that you still have great “faith” in your false messiah.  Dumazz.

    Youve got 19 days to pretend youre so smart.  After that – a lifetime of bitterness and self doubt  .  Enjoy.

  • VMink

    but they say that about everyone ‘left’ of Spiro Agnew. 

    The real hardcore Birchers say that about everyone to the left of Genghis Khan.

  • Consumer Unit 5012

     >blockquote>Yes, I’m serious about the Obamaos having a Christmas ornament with evil
    Chairman Mao’s face hanging on our tree in the White House.  I saw it. 

    You were touring the White House on Christmas?  Which year?

    Bill Ayers is a bomber who tried to kill many and he is NOT locked up!  He and Obamao have been chums for decades. 

    He never killed anyone, he did his time, and now he’s a constructive member of society.  Listening to you rave, I’d almost get the idea that Allenist Christians don’t ACTUALLY believe in forgiveness and repentance.

    our illustrious president told 65 million of us watching the debate on
    Tuesday night that they do mammograms!  Cecile Richards, the CEO of
    Planned Barrenhood has also spread that fat, ugly lie! 

    From the way you’re acting, I get the impression that you think that we’re supposed to feel blinding, volcanic rage at this.  I can barely muster up enough energy to hit Google over it.

    The “Binders full of women” remark seems to have a lot more traction outside the Bubble…and it turns out Mitt was even lying about that.

  • AnonymousSam

    But did you catch the part about how the ornaments were decorated by local community groups? That the image of Mao may actually be an Andy Warhol image of Mao, and that Simon Doonan oversaw the decoration (and anyone who knows that name should expect him to be rather tongue-in-cheek about this sort of thing — the ornaments also include a drag queen and a Mount Rushmore image with Obama’s face as a fifth carving, among nearly 800 others)?

  • Lunch Meat

    We’re done.  I know you will feel the need to comment back and “win” –
    but I wont read it.But do it for the “forum” – show them that

    Ooh, be careful–a flounce gets you 10 points if you stick it, but you lose 50 if you come back.

  • Consumer Unit 5012

     

    Thats why what you say or think doesnt mean 1 f-n thing to me.We’re
    done.  I know you will feel the need to comment back and “win” – but I
    wont read it.But do it for the “forum” – show them that you still have
    great “faith” in your false messiah.  Dumazz.

    Bye!  And don’t worry – I never expected you to actually read anything I wrote in the first place.  Scan it for keywords to trigger your next screed, maybe, but not ‘read’.

    (Why is it that Conservatrolls somehow manage to accuse Libruls of worshipping Obama as a messiah when half of the comments I see about liberal blogs about Obama are liberals complaining he’s too right-wing?  I think it’s projection from the way they started grovelling before Bush after 9/11.)

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Oh, so that makes it OK for the Obamaos to put that evil face upon the people’s tree?  No worries, right?

  • AnonymousSam

    To get a mammogram, you need a referral. Planned Parenthood provides referrals for mammograms, and does provide breast inspections (which may clarify the need or lack thereof to pursue a mammogram), so to say that Planned Parenthood provides mammograms is inaccurate, but nothing so contrary to the truth as “a sociopathic lie.”

  • Mark Z.

    The real hardcore Birchers say that about everyone to the left of Genghis Khan.

    Slander! Genghis Khan believed in freedom of religion.

  • Leum

    In essence, Jesus was saying that everybody is living in sin if they have not surrendered all to Him, and everyone is in need of His healing and His salvation if they want to have eternal life.  He didn’t tell the tax collectors and sinners that they were fine the way they were.  He didn’t join them in their sin in an attempt to relate.  He wasn’t down with how they were living.  He boldly declared that they needed His healing and His salvation!

    What people seem to forget when talking about Jesus eating with sinners is that in order to do so they must have liked him. They must have enjoyed hanging out with him. Which, in turn, implies that he probably wasn’t spending most of his time with them berating them for their sins.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Bill Ayers is as constructive as hell.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    I saw the ornament with evil Chairman Mao’s face hanging on our tree in the OBAMA White House, thank  you very much.

    If you have any shred of substantiation (even a picture you took yourself, not photoshopped), that would be nice.

    Otherwise, frankly, you are making things up.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Obamao knew it was a bold-face lie and freely told it, trying to fool the many idiots among us!

  • EllieMurasaki

    Who the fuck is Bill Ayers?

    Some Chicago politician with a tenuous connection to Obama. Can’t remember if Ayers is actually a slimeball or if people are simply saying he is; either way Obama’s connection with him is being used against Obama. There really isn’t much of a connection.

    Planned Parenthood may not do mammograms because they … gee, I wonder … maybe they don’t have the equipment?

    I can’t remember if Planned Parenthood does mammograms themselves or refers patients to somebody who’ll do them for free. Either way, going to Planned Parenthood in need of a mammogram does get one a mammogram.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    What the hell do mammograms have to do with abortions, anyway? You’d think as a rather necessary cancer screening technique PP would be all over that anyway.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Like I said, folks will believe whatever the hairy heck they want to believe.  It is NOT a lie about the Mao Christmas ornament hanging on the Obamaos White House tree!  My name is not frankly, btw.

  • EllieMurasaki

    The point Ms Allen is trying to make is that Planned Parenthood does abortions and perhaps contraception, nothing else. Which is nonsense, of course.

  • Consumer Unit 5012

     Wait, wait – this Mao Ornament is a thing that actually exists outside of Glenn Back’s tiny perspiring mind?

    O_O

    WOW.  I may owe Ginny an apology.

    (Ah:  http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/12/23/is-mao-really-on-the-obama-christmas-tree/ Looks like it was indeed an Andy Warhol pic.)

    Ginny, for the record?  We still don’t care.  We were talking about Dinesh D’ishonest and his bigotry, propagandizing, and apparent adultery before you came in here with both hands ranting in a frantic effort to distract us.

    Me, I dislike Dinesh for his cowardly comments after 9/11 that if the terrorists “hate us for our freedom”, then we need to get rid of that freedom.  What a wimp.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Planned Barrenhood does NOT care about women.  They ruthlessly slaughter millions of females each year!  They care about money, money, money – MONEY!

  • AnonymousSam

    Ronald Reagan’s face is also on the tree, as are Liza Minnelli, Michael Jackson and James Dean’s. As a community project, it was bound to have a variety of faces.

    Actually, I just confirmed that it is Andy Warhol’s work. Compare the original to the ornament.

    Andy Warhol was a practicing Ruthenian Rite Catholic who also painted religious work, but is most known for his colorful deconstruction art. His painting of Mao is such an image — one of a series of images of Mao in different color tones. He also did the same, more famously, of a can of soup.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Actually, Invisible one, there is a sad link between abortions and breast cancer.  I guess you did make invisible your last comment, the one I am now commenting on.  Ha!

  • Consumer Unit 5012

    The Fetus Liberation Front seems to think that ALL ladyparts issues are actually fronts to give more women abortions. 

    Even if they’re not pregnant, according to noted medical expert Todd Akin.  :-P


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