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“If you are right now 27 years old or younger, you have never lived through a month that was colder than average.”

“At the very least it’s fun to imagine the newscasters announcing, ‘Exxon is coming ashore across New Jersey, leaving havoc in her wake,’ or ‘Chevron forces evacuation of 375,000.’”

“On the medical evidence made available, the bishops very strongly disapproved of the use of these appliances, more particularly in the case of unmarried persons.”

“I’m pretty sure not a single homosexual in the Western world is unaware that most evangelical Christians believe their desires and/or lifestyle to be sinful.”

“The best way to move beyond a culture war mentality is to listen to one another’s stories, and Justin’s is just the kind of story we need to hear right now.”

“Increasingly, the public understands that letting same-sex couples marry does no harm to the civil institution of marriage, but promotes family stability, rewards loving commitment, and safeguards the interests of children.”

Joey if you’re hurting, so am I …

“Most of all, I’d tell her that the president isn’t going to do anything that will hurt her family or her community or her way of life. She doesn’t need to worry so much. Things are going to be okay.”

“And that’s the problem with all these conservatives claiming they can fix their demographic problem without changing their beliefs: It’s predicated on the assumption that women and people of color are stupid.”

“This is part of our American story and, yes, we do have stories, as in histories, that started before you noticed us.”

“If you won’t support comprehensive immigration reform because it’s the right thing to do, at least support it because there is no future for our state or for your political party without Latinos and the children of immigrants from across the world.”

“We must contest every single inch of ground and delay the baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists at every opportunity. … But in due time, the maggots will have eaten every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic.”

“In among the letters was a page torn from a notebook. On it, in pencil, with writing that looks increasingly shaky as it goes on, is my grandfather’s own account of what happened to him in no-man’s land.”

“If we started any analysis of international relations with the assumption that war will end badly for all concerned, and that the threat of war will probably lead to war sooner or later, we would be right most of the time.”

It sounded like two or three cars crashing in Piccadilly Circus.”

A society that boos or ridicules the Golden Rule is not a moral society.”

“This is symptomatic of a hollowed out, hyper-rationalistic faith — belief as intellectual assent. In this view apologetics reduces to an intellectual debate.”

Never put anything in email that would cause you serious problems if shared or publicized.”

“We all die. Not all of us get to plan how to die well.”

I don’t want to be dismissed so easily.”

“The lay people had to go ahead and form their groups … and make their complaints directly, to priest and cardinal, demanding the leadership, the moral example they are entitled to.”

“I will, of course, be dropping the occasional pop culture reference to give the impression that I know where your generation is at. I do not.”

Now get your mind out of the gutter, and go get your flu shot.”

Church Sign Epic Fails, ‘Force-Fed Faith’ Edition

  • ohiolibrarian

    The Catholic Church disapproved of tampons. Tampons? Wha? Why? Did they think we ENJOYED them? I just can’t …

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charity-Brighton/100002974813787 Charity Brighton

    The gulf between some Catholic interpretation of their religious belief and the rest of the world’s needs is so vast that the only rational policy is to enforce a strict line of separation between secular law and religious doctrine. Letting the latter have any sway over the former is a recipe for this sort of thing. 

  • Kiba

    The Catholic Church disapproved of tampons. Tampons? Wha? Why? Did they think we ENJOYED them? I just can’t …

    Evidently they thought that “women might derive sexual stimulation from Tampax.” So in their minds Tampax = sex toy…

    This man also thought that women in gymnastics had “unnatural pleasures” using the pommel horse. 

  • cjmr

    But women don’t use the pommel horse…

  • cjmr

    The tampon quote is from 1944.  I don’t think the current bishops care much about tampons.

  • Kiba

    According to the article that was one of the concerns…the pommel horse. I’m not sure if back in the 60s women used it or not I was just stating what was in the article.

    As late as the 1960s McQuaid was still concerned with ‘unnatural pleasures’ associated with female gymnastics, especially the pommel horse.

  • cjmr

    It’s possible he’d not SEEN women’s gymnastics.  The event equipment (what men do vs. what women do) was standardized in the 50s.

  • Kiba

    It’s quite possible. I mean he had been arguing since the 30s that women shouldn’t be in public sports at all; “‘in athletic sports and exercises, wherein the Christian modesty of girls must be, in a special way, safeguarded, for it is supremely unbecoming that they flaunt themselves and display themselves before the eyes of all’.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/jrandyowens Randy Owens

    Well, apparently, the bishops got their way in this case, then.  Isn’t it obvious now?

  • hidden_urchin

    ”…Tampax = sex toy”

    Speaking for myself here, those two words should never go in the same sentence.

  • http://timothy.green.name/ Timothy (TRiG)

    McQuaid’s is a name I recognise. That man, whatever world he lived in, actually had power and influence (and respect!) in this country.

    But then, Dev thought this should be a country of fair maids dancing at the crossroads, so there is that. The Catholic Church was basically invited to stick their nose into social policy. And they basically ran both the hospitals and the schools. Still do, to a large extent.

    TRiG.

  • SisterCoyote

    Man. Four years past the U2 obsession, and three years past the anarchist days, my ears still stick up like a puppy’s when Bono speaks. (Or sings, obviously.) I think it’s not going to go away.

    And, you know. He’s right. That helps.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ann-Unemori/100001112760232 Ann Unemori

    I never liked tampons anyway, for me they’re yicky and messy and I never did figure out how to get them inside me. 
     Cmjr is probably right; it’s an old quote resurrected. Maybe it was one  taken out of context?

  • http://www.facebook.com/jrandyowens Randy Owens

    If you clicky the linky, it explicitly says it’s from a 1944 letter.  Fred may have done a pretty obvious contextomy, but that’s a pretty regular thing he does to draw you in to clicking the linky.

  • Thers Whiskey

    But then, Dev thought this should be a country of fair maids dancing at
    the crossroads, so there is that. The Catholic Church was basically invited to stick their nose into social policy.

    Yes and no. Dev was a master politician, you have to give him that. The Church needed no invitation to stick its nose anywhere, after all, and while Dev did go along with a lot of the Church’s desires, he did fend off some of the more extreme demands — such as the tampon ban, or the hierarchy’s proposal that girls under 19 be banned from leaving the country.

  • Thers Whiskey

     No, that’s the context– the Irish hierarchy disapproved of tampons. So did, by the way, the Spanish hierarchy.

  • http://blog.trenchcoatsoft.com Ross

    The Catholic Church disapproved of tampons. Tampons? Wha? Why? Did they think we ENJOYED them? I just can’t …

    So this is apparently a thing. As late as the 1980s, tampax was still running ads in teen magazines reassuring girls that they would still be virgins even if they used tampons.

  • GDwarf

     

    the hierarchy’s proposal that girls under 19 be banned from leaving the country.

    Wait. What? How does one even begin to justify that idea?

  • stardreamer42

    Digging down a couple of links provides this: It requires a remarkable gynaecological imagination to see Tampax as a
    contraceptive. The more pertinent fear, however, was that women might
    derive sexual stimulation from Tampax.
    So yes, they thought you might enjoy them.

    Perhaps more to the point was an urban legend still common when I was growing up in the 60s — that using tampons could “destroy a woman’s virginity” by stretching or breaking the hymen. I kid you not.

  • AnonymousSam

    I suppose they’re hoping to return to the Biblical rules of menstruation: “Several days of abject isolation, and burn anything she touches!”

  • Mary Kaye

    You just don’t hear much about hymens anymore.  When I was first fishing around for sex-ed information in the early 70′s (I was born in ’63) and found _Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex_ (an awful, awful book, but at the time it seemed like information) hymens were a big deal.  Would gymnastics break your hymen?  Would tampons?  How about horseback riding?  Masturbation?  The book went into a lot of detail about this….

    I get the impression that hardly anyone cares anymore, which is great, because the darned thing was *never* a reliable guide to virginity.  Some women don’t even have one, female genitalia being incredibly non-standardized as they are.

    We also, I hope, have gotten past the view of breasts as being horrendously injury-prone parts of the body.  I mean, it’s a big pad of fat.  Yes, being hit there hurts, but almost anywhere else hurts more, and there’s no evidence I’m aware of that it does any particular harm.  But as a young fencer I was always being hassled about wearing breast protection.  (This was particularly annoying as I had no breasts to speak of until much later in life.)

  • Thers Whiskey

     The X case in the 1990s was all about preventing a teenager who had been raped from leaving the country because she wanted an abortion, remember.

    In the 1930s and 40s, it was the mentality.

  • http://blog.trenchcoatsoft.com Ross

     

    I get the impression that hardly anyone cares anymore, which is great,
    because the darned thing was *never* a reliable guide to virginity. 
    Some women don’t even have one, female genitalia being incredibly
    non-standardized as they are.

    Well, sure *now*. But for a lot of history, “virginity” was *defined* in terms of the hymen. This may have been a terrible definition (for values of “may have been” approaching “was”), but it’s the one that was on the books.

  • ohiolibrarian

    What is clear is that too many in the Catholic Church think a little too much about sex. And they have for a long time. The requirement of celibacy seems to turn their brains. To mush.

  • GDwarf

     

     The X case in the 1990s was all about preventing a teenager who had
    been raped from leaving the country because she wanted an abortion,
    remember.

    In the 1930s and 40s, it was the mentality.

    But…

    It just makes it clear that they see women as prisoners. I just…How does one become that hateful?

  • Lori

    How does one become that hateful?  

    AFAICT, by noticing that one can get power, privilege and money by being that hateful while being the kind of selfish bastard who wants  power, privilege and/or money just that much.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ann-Unemori/100001112760232 Ann Unemori

    You learn something new every day. 

  • Tricksterson

    To be fair, the tampon thing isn’t a current issue.  If you go back and look you’ll see that that was back in 1944.  Still eyerollingly idiotic of course but not current.  That I know of.

  • Tricksterson

    Wonder what he thought about the balance beam.

  • Tricksterson

    Goes hand in hand with the amendment that allows women to go overseas to get an abortion.

  • BaseDeltaZero

    As a devout anarchist… She loved organized labor

    Of course.  It doesn’t *count* when its your people in charge… or something.

  • Tricksterson

    You’ve got it backwards.  Through most of history in most cultures women were seen as property, something to be kept.  It’s the idea that they aren’t that has had to be come to.

  • Jenora Feuer

    Joey if you’re hurting, so am I …

    Wow, a Concrete Blonde lyrics reference.  There’s something you don’t see every day.

    Then again, a quick search of the music listings here listed Joey on the Jesus to John Wayne page, so it’s not like we haven’t had prior notice.
     

  • Anton_Mates

    Perhaps more to the point was an urban legend still common when I was growing up in the 60s — that using tampons could “destroy a woman’s virginity” by stretching or breaking the hymen.

    And no one would want that.  Much like middle school graduation, your first time just isn’t as special if blood and pain isn’t involved.

  • ASeriesOfWords

    I think its pretty clear that McQuaid has an unhealthy obsession with what goes on between a woman’s legs.

  • Tricksterson

    Oh, and because I forgot to say it earlier:   Ohmigodscutebabykangaroo!  SQUEEEE!


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