Tim LaHaye pans script for ‘Left Behind’ reboot

The Christian Post interviewed Tim LaHaye about the new Left Behind movie.

The new film will have a bigger budget than the earlier adaptation of LaHaye’s best-selling “Bible prophecy” novel. It will also feature Nicolas Cage as Rayford Steele. Steele is the protagonist who serves in the book as LaHaye’s wish-fulfillment surrogate, but LaHaye doesn’t seem to appreciate the awesomeness of having Nic Cage playing him. The conservative activist isn’t involved with this new movie and, therefore, he already doesn’t like it:

LaHaye, who took Cloud Ten Pictures to court several years ago over rights issues over the series, said he had read the script, written by Lalonde and John Patus, and indicated that he was not a fan.

“It’s probably the worst script I’ve ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”

“The plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added.

“There is no redemptive value to this movie,” he continued, while acknowledging that “it’s got a lot of intrigue.”

Lalonde and Patus co-wrote the screenplay for “Left Behind II: Tribulation Force,” and Patus served as a consultant for its follow-up, ” Left Behind: World at War.” Lalonde also co-wrote the surprisingly successful initial “Left Behind” movie, which grossed $4.2 million in its theatrical release and became 2001’s most successful independent movie through its video release.

Nonetheless, LaHaye and Jenkins, whose books have sold more than 65 million copies, called the productions glorified “church basement movies.”

LaHaye, explaining why he felt the need to take Cloud Ten to court in a case that lasted nine years, said he was disappointed that 2001’s “Left Behind” starring Kirk Cameron didn’t get the initial theatrical production he said the contract had called for and he had dreamed about.

The Christian minister and author, who said he’s not really sure how much money Cloud Ten actually put into making the 2001 film, knows well that “part of the problem with Christian movies, is that it’s always been a money factor, to raise enough money to do a quality production.”

… Although LaHaye didn’t see his dreams realized the first time around and doesn’t have a hand in its remake, “Left Behind” seems to finally be headed for the theatrical treatment he had initially hoped for, just not in line with his exact vision. But he’s still dreaming.

In his brief interview with CP, the author tested a “dream” title.

“How about ‘Nicolae: Rise of the Antichrist,'” the 86-year-old minister offered, referencing the third title in the end times series.

“Some day I’d like to do that, but not now,” LaHaye explained. He’s currently working to help raise funds for another film, “The Resurrection of the Christ,” said to be a sequel to Mel Gibson’s 2004 film, The Passion of the Christ.

So far, we’ve got Nicolas Cage and we’ve got Tim LaHaye whining that the script is “nothing like the book.” I’m almost starting to want to see this movie.

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  • Ben English

    I’m imagining his reaction:

    Tim LaHaye: What the hell is this? Rayford and Buck being all compassionate to the unsaved masses? Chloe being sarcastic and assertive? This script is terrible!

  • schismtracer

    I never thought I say anything resembling this, but I get the impression that LaHaye and Alan Moore have something in common here.  They both seem to hate adaptations of their work simply on the grounds that they’re adaptations of their work. 

  • histrogeek

     They both also have works that have enormous and complex back stories that mean any screenplay is required to have at them with a weed whacker, or else the movie will be 10 hours long and still be incomprehensible. Tolkien is another one, which is why Peter Jackson, protestations to the contrary, chucked big chunks of Lord of the Rings.
    Of course Tolkien and Moore have elaborate back stories because they are excellent and imaginative craftsmen who are obsessive about creating a rich universe. LaHaye has an elaborate back story because he’s using an incomprehensible heresy written a century and a half ago that hasn’t been updated and because he and Jenkins can’t be bothered to think up details enough to cover their glaring plot holes.

  • aunursa

    Tolkien is another one, which is why Peter Jackson, protestations to the contrary, chucked big chunks of Lord of the Rings.

    The theatrical release of The Return of the King is 3 1/2 hours, and the extended edition is 4 hours 12 minutes.  Some LotR fanatics were upset that they didn’t include chapters such as “The Scouring of the Shire”, which would have extended the film to ~5 hours.  I saw the movies before I read each book, so I was not predisposed to hoping for a particular scene.

    Two scenes late in the extended version I wish had been included in the original.  (There were a number of scenes that could have been reduced or eliminated to make room for these.)

    The Mouth of Sauron just before the final battle: The sight of Frodo’s clothing in the hands of the enemy lent credence to their worst fears and meant that the diversion might be all in vain, and yet they were still willing to fight.  It gives an additional meaning to Aragorn’s speech to his troops, and his final battle cry: “For Frodo.”

     Gollom/Smeagol’s final brief dialogue with Frodo on Mount Doom:  Frodo had trusted Smeagol over Sam’s misgivings, and this final scene provided closure to their relationship.

    Frodo: You swore on the “Precious!”  Smeagol promised!
    Smeagol: [mocking] Smoegal lied.

  • The Guest Who Posts

    Sad to say, I hated both these scenes in the extended edition (the EE of “Return of the King” is my least favourite of the three).

    The scene of the Mouth of Sauron *in the book* is one of my favourite scenes, but the film botched it in so many ways. First, it had the Mouth of Sauron say that Frodo had already been killed, which meant that he could no longer use him as a bargaining chip against Aragorn (which was the entire point of the scene in the book), turning the scene from a hostage negotiation into a tacky case of “trying to psych Aragorn just by being evil for no reason”. It didn’t even add any suspense, since the viewer already knows that Frodo is alive. And then Aragorn straight-up kills the Mouth of Sauron, presumably so the audience can cheer over one of the good guys killing emissaries with diplomatic immunity.

    (I can’t see why the film made the Mouth monstrous rather than a handsome human, either, unless the film’s creators presumed that the audience wouldn’t get that he was a bad guy unless he was ugly.)

    “Sméagol lied” just turned Sméagol into a flat bad guy with no redeeming qualities, which goes right against what he was supposed to be, and made the good guys seem like idiots for showing pity and mercy.

    I’m not one of those Tolkien fans who hate the films; in fact, I’m a huge fan of them. But those two scenes just rile me.

    Re who should play Nicolae: I think Javier Bardem would do a cracking job of playing the Antichrist (despite not being East European), but I’d be heart-sick to see him in anything LB-related. Oh well.

  • nicolbolas

    I understand you feelings about the Mouth of Sauron scene, but I disagree with it.

    First, the point of the scene is changed from the book to the film, but for a very important reason: the audience already knows that Frodo escaped. In the book, the tension is on the fact that, last time we saw Frodo, he and the ring were captured.

    Therefore, the film changes the tension around. Sauron uses the Mithril vest as a way to damage the resolve of his enemies, rather than as some kind of bargaining chip. This puts the tension squarely on how our heroes react to this information: the very likely fact that they marched all this way to die *for no reason*.

    Aragorn cuts off his head and declares that he still believes that their sacrifice has value.

    The cutting off of his head part is perfectly fine to me. “Diplomatic immunity” is nonsense in this context. There’s no negotiation happening here. Sauron sent this guy out there for the *sole purpose* of weakening the resolve of his enemy. To attack with words rather than sword and spear. He is a combatant as far as Sauron is concerned, a part of Sauron’s overall military strategy.

    So Aragorn treats him like one.

    Plus, it ties into the Tolkein motif that evil people can fight with words just as well as weapons. Just look at the film: the confrontation with Saruman at Orthanc. Saruman weakens their resolve. He hits Theoden with questions about how he stacks up with his forefathers, which haunts him throughout the rest of the film. He makes Gandalf question whether Frodo has survived.

    So again, I have no problem with Aragorn treating Sauron’s Mouth like combatant.

  • histrogeek

    I was disappointed that the Scouring of the Shire wasn’t in the extended cut, though it was easy to see why it got cut. It was probably the only thing I was disappointed was dropped in the movie. Mostly I felt Jackson improved Tolkien’s story.

  • http://www.aqualgidus.org/ Michael Chui

    The only way “The Scouring of the Shire” could have been added is not by extending the film by another hour, but by completely re-configuring the entire trilogy into five movies.

    https://plus.google.com/113476531580617567600/posts/AN6JMEzAV3Z

  • AnonymousSam

    To be fair, from what was posted earlier, it really has little in common with the book. Apparently the plot greatly expands the Rapture itself from the isolation of the plane, turning the movie into one having more in common with the Longoliers than Left Behind.

  • Matri

    To be fair, from what was posted earlier, it really has little in common with the book. Apparently the plot greatly expands the Rapture itself from the isolation of the plane, turning the movie into one having more in common with the Longoliers than Left Behind.

    So, in other words: it’s miles better than anything L&J have ever, will ever, or can ever write?
    To be
    fair, from what was posted earlier, it really has little in common with
    the book. Apparently the plot greatly expands the Rapture itself from
    the isolation of the plane, turning the movie into one having more in
    common with the Longoliers than Left Behind. – See more at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.ZOdwf6Sp.dpuf
    To be
    fair, from what was posted earlier, it really has little in common with
    the book. Apparently the plot greatly expands the Rapture itself from
    the isolation of the plane, turning the movie into one having more in
    common with the Longoliers than Left Behind. – See more at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.ZOdwf6Sp.dpuf
    To be
    fair, from what was posted earlier, it really has little in common with
    the book. Apparently the plot greatly expands the Rapture itself from
    the isolation of the plane, turning the movie into one having more in
    common with the Longoliers than Left Behind. – See more at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.ZOdwf6Sp.dpuf
    To be
    fair, from what was posted earlier, it really has little in common with
    the book. Apparently the plot greatly expands the Rapture itself from
    the isolation of the plane, turning the movie into one having more in
    common with the Longoliers than Left Behind. – See more at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.ZOdwf6Sp.dpuf
    To be
    fair, from what was posted earlier, it really has little in common with
    the book. Apparently the plot greatly expands the Rapture itself from
    the isolation of the plane, turning the movie into one having more in
    common with the Longoliers than Left Behind. – See more at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.ZOdwf6Sp.dpuf<

  • Matri

    Gah. Stupid Disqus.

  • reynard61

    “There is no redemptive value to this movie,” (LaHaye) continued, while acknowledging that “it’s got a lot of intrigue.”

    Well, then, that already (maybe) puts this movie one up on the books because, as far as I can tell, the books have neither “redemptive value” (whatever the hell *that’s* supposed to mean) *nor* intrigue.

    (Who wants to bet that this goes direct-to-video — or even to the “church basement” circuit — along with it’s earlier iterations?)

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    The funny thing is, LB (the first movie) actually had a limited theater release before going to DVD and churches. So LaHaye has probably raked in some $$ already from the sales of said movie  and is just being a greedy-guts at this point.

  • http://twitter.com/FearlessSon FearlessSon

    The funny thing is, LB (the first movie) actually had a limited theater release before going to DVD and churches. So LaHaye has probably raked in some $$ already from the sales of said movie  and is just being a greedy-guts at this point.

    I am guessing that limited theater release was the minimal the distributor could get away with and still be considered to have legally fulfilled their end of the contract saying that they would bring it to theaters.  LaHay must have been lead to believe (or just naively assumed) that it would be a much wider theatrical release, while the distributors (probably rightly) thought that it would not be worth the cost and effort to get a wide distribution because beyond the “church basement screening” demographic there was not much of a market for it.  

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    That being said, if you consider just the known membership of the Southern Baptist Church, in 2000 it was approximately 16 million.

    Let us suppose that they ALL went to go see a LB movie in the theater, which is what LaHaye may have been banking on at the time.

    Call it $5 a seat ’cause it’s cheap seat Tuesday or a matinee showing. At the gate, that’s $80,000,000. Suppose that LaHaye’s contract calls for him to get 10% of the gross from the theater revenues.

    That’s a pretty cool 8 million reasons to push for a theater screening.

  • Brightie

    That’s a big assumption. Maybe I got lucky, but when I was attending an SBC church I had three “elders,” and a different eschatological view for each. And one of my SBC friends was writing a Left Behind parody with her sister.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    LaHaye, explaining why he felt the need to take Cloud Ten to court in a
    case that lasted nine years, said he was disappointed that 2001′s “Left
    Behind” starring Kirk Cameron didn’t get the initial theatrical
    production he said the contract had called for and he had dreamed about.

    So basically, LaHaye threw a shitfit over the original adaptation, and has managed to achieve exactly the opposite of what he wanted out of the lawsuit.

    I do believe that is the definition of “pwned”. :D

  • Keulan

    This makes me want to see this movie when it comes out. Considering how awful the books are, I hope Time LaHaye is right and the plot really is nothing like the book.

  • http://www.facebook.com/WingedWyrm Charles Scott

    Well, it can hardly be anything like his book, being that it only focuses on the first few hours post-rapture*.

    Still, that does bode well.  Focusing on the first few hours will give an immediacy to the movie.  Focusing on getting father and daughter together will give a goal.  There’ll be things to do above and beyond, you know, exist savedly.

    *Thank you Anursa for bringing that info.

  • Ken

    There’ll be things to do above and beyond, you know, exist savedly.

    Right.  If it makes money and they do a sequel, there will be plenty of time for LaHaye – er, his pilot-surrogate – to serve the Antichrist while secretly deploring his every act and doing absolutely nothing to help anyone.  You know, “redemptive value” LaHaye-style.
    There’ll
    be things to do above and beyond, you know, exist savedly. – See more
    at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.qg5Z1U6n.dpuf
    There’ll
    be things to do above and beyond, you know, exist savedly. – See more
    at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.qg5Z1U6n.dpuf

  • Belledame

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Of  *course* it has Nick Cage in it!! Of COURSE.  

  • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

    I don’t know if you’re having that reaction for the same reason I am: what was the last movie Cage was in that was not a stew of seething misogyny? This is the kind of movie he makes! Hatewomen-blowstuffup-hatewomen-blowstuffup. 

  • http://dragoness-e.livejournal.com/ Dragoness Eclectic

     Was there misogyny in “Ghost Rider” or “Con Air”?

  • Lori

    I didn’t see Ghost Rider, but I have seen Con Air. In that, the crime that sends Cage’s character to prison is that he accidentally kills a guy for hitting on his (blond, delicate, pregnant) wife. I could do a whole rant about that, but I won’t. There was also some skeeviness with the female guard and the serial rapist on the plane, but I’ve seen far worse.

  • AnonymousSam

    My memories of Ghost Rider are fuzzy, but aside from some skeeviness (to borrow your word) with his relationship to an ex, that movie didn’t have much female interaction at all, if I recall. The worst I remember is that he asks her to dinner, she tells him no and he keeps following her until she relents and says yes (giving off an insufferable jerkass vibe the entire time). The implication is that she was just saying no because reasons and he knew she’d cave in if he was persistant because she didn’t really hate him as much as she was pretending.

    Which… could actually be pretty misogynistic, now that I think about it, but my recollection is too poor to be sure that’s really what happened or if that’s just what I took home from it.

  • Belledame

    SCRREEEEEE WAIT A MINUTE

    “Some day I’d like to do that, but not now,” LaHaye explained. He’s currently working to help raise funds for another film, “The Resurrection of the Christ,” said to be a sequel to Mel Gibson’s 2004 film, The Passion of the Christ.

    Not an Onion article.  I had to check twice.  Ermegherrrrrrrrrd
     

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    Wait, LaHaye wants to make a sequel? To a movie that, IIRC, ends with Christ, well, being not on the Earth anymore?

    Felicity Smoak is unimpressed with LaHaye’s bullshit

  • vsm

    It would presumably be about the apostles. It might actually make a pretty decent movie in the hands of someone who isn’t a fundamentalist.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YFSNWTUMXUCUSUNFTORWBNJHHQ Jared

     Passion of The Christ 2: Acts of The Apostles?

  • http://twitter.com/mcclure111 mcc

    I wonder if he’ll find a way to sneak in homophobia to this one.

  • tatortotcassie

    “The plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added

    Hurray!!!  :D  This movie now has a slim chance of not sucking!  . . . as badly as the books did, at least.   And what’s LaHaye so bent out of shape about, anyway?  It’s not like he actually sat down and created the characters or plotted out storylines — Jerry Jenkins did.  (Well, Jenkins put the words on the page; I don’t know that he did any real “plotting” because to me “plotting” means thinking through what you want to happen and making changes as needed.  But you know what I mean.)   If anyone has the right to be annoyed with changes, it’s Jenkins, not LaHaye.   And given that the changes likely improve the story, I doubt Jenkins has much of a right to complain either. 

    “How about ‘Nicolae: Rise of the Antichrist,’” the 86-year-old minister offered, referencing the third title in the end times series

    How about “No.”  The LB series is hackneyed and cliched enough as it is without adding the Hollywood trend of putting the words “rise of” in the titles of sequel movies.  And, if memory serves, Nicolae doesn’t do much of anything in book 3, let alone “rise.”

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    And, if memory serves, Nicolae doesn’t do much of anything in book 3, let alone “rise.”

    I think Hattie Durham would be in a better position to know.

  • hidden_urchin

    And, if memory serves, Nicolae doesn’t do much of anything in book 3, let alone “rise.”

    Well, we’d have to ask Hattie about that one.

    I am so sorry.

  • Jessica_R

    “And get this! When Rayford is walking across the tarmac in the opening he…I almost can’t say this…helps people! He STOPS AND HELPS PEOPLE! He even takes off his expensive super important pilot jacket to wrap it around some wounded nobody! They should be ashamed of themselves! Liberal Hollywood!” 

    And I *totally* want to see this movie. Maybe those of us who live in clusters of close by can arrange mini Slacktivite Cons to go see it. 

  • flat

    Oh man this is hilarious, it appears Fred has enough comedy material for now

  • arcseconds

    People actually like Nicholas Cage?

    How strange…

    I’ve always thought of him as kind of devoid of personality in a vaguely creepy way, which sometimes works (like in Lord of War, where his character almost seems to represent an abstraction) but often doesn’t.

    Not saying this couldn’t work for Rayford, but maybe others could pull off the pompousness better…

  • Rhubarbarian82

    People actually like Nicholas Cage?

    It always kind of weirds me out to be in the position of defending him, but I think Cage is one of those actors who can put in a genuinely good performance, so long as the role caters to his strengths and he isn’t working with a director who will let him phone in a Nicholas Cage performance.

    The fact that he’s willing to be in just about anything really doesn’t help his defense. He’s clearly got no metric for judging the quality of the scripts he gets, or just doesn’t particularly care for holding up any sort of reputation as a respectable actor. He may also just not really be totally in touch with the rest of us; he did name his son Kal-El.

    But Raising Arizona, Adaptation, and Bad Lieutenant are great movies, for example, and they’re not just great in spite of Cage. Even when he’s in something really atrocious, he still usually puts in a hilarious performance (see: The Wicker Man). As actors go, you can do a whole lot worse.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-McGraw/100001988854074 Patrick McGraw

     

    [Cage] may also just not really be in touch with the rest of use; he did name his son Kal-El.

    I’ll say. He keeps pronouncing it “KA-LEL,” showing the same inability to grasp the meaning of a hyphen that everybody in Richard Donner’s movies showed.

  • http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke

    The fact that he’s willing to be in just about anything really doesn’t help his defense.

    There is an entire generation of English actors that lived by the code of ‘any work is good work’. Among them are Michael Caine, Christopher Lee, Alec Guinness…This did not seem to lower the quality of their work.

  • http://blog.trenchcoatsoft.com Ross

    There is an entire generation of English actors that lived by the code
    of ‘any work is good work’. Among them are Michael Caine, Christopher
    Lee
    , Alec Guinness…This did not seem to lower the quality of their
    work.

     I have four words, only not in order.

    Manchu.
    The.
    Of.
    Fu.

  • http://heathencritique.wordpress.com/ Ruby_Tea

    Yep.  Michael Caine, Jaws: The Revenge.

    I actually respect an actor more when s/he does a bad movie, and is a professional about it and classes up the joint.  Take…well, Michael Caine.  He did Jaws: The Revenge, turned in a terrific performance, got a trip to the Bahamas, and got to pay off his mortgage…all because he is an actor who does his job to the best of his ability, always.

    Not that the phenomenon is limited to English actors.  Take, for example, Ed Harris (Milk Money), John Cusack (America’s Sweethearts), Renee Zellweger (Bridget Jones II), Nathan Fillion (Waitress), Raul Julia (Overdrawn at the Memory Bank), or Kate Winslet (Titanic).

  • hidden_urchin

    Me too. That goes for the lower list actors as well. I’m always impressed when I’m watching a bad made-for-TV movie and there is an actor or two who are giving a solid performance despite horrible…well, everything else.

  • Loquat

    “I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific.”
     – Michael Caine, on Jaws: The Revenge

  • Baby_Raptor

    So he’s butthurt because there’s not enough him in the movie.

    He made that obvious when he threw out his own book title as the name for the project. 

  • renniejoy
  • Ian

    A film version of Easter would need to be done Rashomon-style because the Gospel accounts are far from identical.  How many people came to the tomb that morning?  What did they see?

    I’m not saying that to be cynical.  The gospels are confused in a way that sounds much like the unreliability of any eyewitness testimony.  The censors have not gone over the material to erase all versions of the story but one.

    The witnesses don’t understand what they see and are overwhelmed.  An Easter movie that captured that swirling confusion would be very compelling.

  • LeRoc

    Helping people on the tarmac will only lead to socialism.

  • Lori

    “It’s probably the worst script I’ve
    ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”

    Why, exactly, has he read scores of scripts? And by “scripts” does he mean one written by actual writers, which have some chance of being produced by a people who have some idea what they’re doing, or does he mean stuff amauters have banged out after being inspired by L&J’s work to create a “witness” for Christ?

     
    Why should anyone give any weight at all to LeHaye’s opinion of the script, is what I’m asking?*

     

     

    The Christian minister and author,
    who said he’s not really sure how much money Cloud Ten actually put into making
    the 2001 film, knows well that “part of the problem with Christian movies, is
    that it’s always been a money factor, to raise enough money to do a quality
    production.”

    If only there was someone who had piles of money and the ability to get an in with the entertainment industry who could help finance better productions of Christian movies. Maybe someone who had been very successful in another area of entertainment. Like, I don’t know, an author maybe.

    *For those who have never read one, reading a script is not like reading a book, it’s its own skill. Reading a script and getting a reasonably accurate sense of how it will translate to the screen is hard. When you see someone who usually does good films in one that’s just terrible and you wonder, “Why the hell did that person agree to be in this crapfest?” the answer may very well be that it looked good on paper. Conversely, when you here that someone passed on a fabulous role in a huge movie and you wonder why they were so stupid the answer may very well be that the script was weak sauce and the awesome is a result of something that happened post-page.

  • http://heathencritique.wordpress.com/ Ruby_Tea

    Church basement movies!*  This means it could be direct-to-video and be featured on my blog that much sooner!  Woooo!

    Seriously, this makes it sound like the film is already suffering from the problems that plagued the Atlas Shrugged movies–fans of the books and underlying “philosophy” will claim the film watered down the message, tried too hard too appeal to the unwashed masses, and didn’t really “get” the amazingness and life-changing-ness of the books.  Meanwhile, the non-fans, who just want to see a good movie, will assume the movie is a “message” movie, and will save the presumed sermon for Sunday (or, yanno, never) and see a different movie.

    *Given that LaHaye is knocking them, I feel a strange sort of defensiveness about church basement movies.  Sure, they’re done on incredibly tight budgets and I vehemently disagree with the entire moral of the story about 95% of the time, but they can feature some solid and believable performances, and they tend to have far more sympathetic characters than any in the Left Behind or Babylon Rising** books.

    **Excluding Isis McDonald (in the first book), of course.

  • misanthropy_jones

    personally, i would much prefer to see cage play nicolae. to me, he’s at his most entertaining when allowed to go completely over the top. cage’s antichrist would be a thing of rare and transcendent beauty…

  • spinetingler

     thiscage’s
    antichrist would be a thing of rare and transcendent beaut – See more
    at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.bybmAnNB.dpuf
    cage’s
    antichrist would be a thing of rare and transcendent beauty… – See
    more at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.bybmAnNB.dpuf
    cage’s
    antichrist would be a thing of rare and transcendent beauty… – See
    more at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.bybmAnNB.dpuf
    cage’s
    antichrist would be a thing of rare and transcendent beauty… – See
    more at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.bybmAnNB.dpuf
    cage’s
    antichrist would be a thing of rare and transcendent beauty… – See
    more at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.bybmAnNB.dpuf

  • spinetingler

     wow, Discus failfailfailfail

  • Naymlap

    Whoa, LaHaye got the rights to the book that’s the sequel to the Passion of the Christ?

  • christopher_y

    Whoa, LaHaye got the rights to the book that’s the sequel to the Passion of the Christ?

    I feel sure The Acts of the Apostles must be out of copyright by now. Even Disney couldn’t hold onto it that long.

  • esmerelda_ogg

    Whoa, LaHaye got the rights to the book that’s the sequel to the Passion of theChrist? – Naymlap

    Eh, I think the copyright on the Acts of the Apostles expired a few centuries ago. ;)

    (Edit – I have got to learn to finish reading the comments before posting. Apologies, Christopher_y.)

  • EllieMurasaki

    Chad Michael Murray? Is he playing Buck?

    If he’s anything in person like the ‘Chad Michael Murray’ character in CWRPF, this is gonna be Wildly Amusing.

  • http://heathencritique.wordpress.com/ Ruby_Tea

    btw, the comments at the Christian Post are a thing of beauty.  Beware Nic Cage, Christ-denier, who dares to act in a Christian movie even though he is not a Christian!

    Call me a soft-hearted and merciful atheist, but I would have said, at worst, “Beware Nic Cage, hit-and-miss actor.” 

  • aunursa

    What are you most looking forward to about the Left Behind Reboot?

    * Chad Michael Murray as Buck Williams [21 votes]
    * Nicolas Cage as Rayford Steele [15 votes]
    * Ashley Tisdale as Chloe Steele [58 votes]
    * Experiencing the film on the big screen in 2014 [24 votes]
    * More people being aware of the Left Behind story [27 votes]

  • http://heathencritique.wordpress.com/ Ruby_Tea

    Amen. LOVED the books. Has made a life change , and closer walk with The Lord and a desire to see all come to Christ. Don’t let out one drop! . 

    Don’t let out one drop…of what? 

    I’m looking forward to seeing the third book being made into a movie, and Nicolae being kicked on his keester by Rayford!!! 

    Rayford kicking Nicky in the ass would make for a far more interesting book.  Too bad Marcus didn’t see how little the Tribbers actually do in these books.

  • aunursa

    Then he reached in, loosened Carpathia’s belt, grabbed him by the lapels, and yanked him out of the chopper. Carpathia landed on his seat on the uneven ground. He jumped up quickly, as if ready to fight. Rayford pushed him back up against the helicopter.
    “Captain Steele, I understand you are upset, but–”
    “Nicolae,” Rayford said, his words rushing through clenched teeth, “you can explain this away any way you want, but let me be the first to tell you: You have just seen the wrath of the Lamb!” *

    final page of Nicolae

    * Rayford is referring to a catastrophic global earthquake as the “Wrath of the Lamb.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/bobby.herrington.1 Boze Herrington

     In fairness, this scene was actually pretty compelling in the dramatized radio version.

  • David Starner

    In reply to Steele’s “You have just seen the wrath of the Lamb!”: “Does that impress you, Captain Steele? Whose side are you on, He who sends global destruction that harms the weak and the poor, or he who tries to rebuild? Are you one of my sheep, one who loves his fellow man, or do you stand on the side of oppression and reckless destruction?” I can see that in a straight-forward Rapture novel or a subversion of the genre, but either way it would make for a much better Antichrist.

  • VMink

    If there’s a Heck, I’m going straight to it for this, but I REGRET NOTHING!

    Then he reached in, loosened Carpathia’s belt, grabbed him by the lapels […] Rayford pushed him back up against the helicopter.
    “Captain Steele, I understand you are upset, but–”
    “Nicolae,” Rayford said, his words rushing through clenched teeth, “you can explain this away any way you want, but let me be the first to tell you: You have just seen the wrath of the Lamb!”

    So that’s what kids are calling it these days….

  • Tricksterson

    I like Ashley Tisdale but have to wonder why she got so many votes, especially since she’s mostly a comedic actress and this is, in theory, a drama.

  • http://blog.trenchcoatsoft.com Ross

     I believe this can be entirely explained by “Ashley Tisdale is a conventionally attractive young woman and the sort of people who like Left Behind have fairly shallow reasons for interest in something”

  • aunursa

    I like Ashley Tisdale but have to wonder why she got so many votes, especially since she’s mostly a comedic actress and this is, in theory, a drama.

    Ashley Tisdale is the #50 highest ranked person on the Internet today, trending up 6.31% over the last 24 hours. Her popularity on the web and social networking sites is up, but her news rank has fallen.
    Her Facebook Page currently has 14,038,055 Likes and 316,146 people talking about her. She has received 24,075 new likes in the last 24 hours.
    Her Twitter account currently has 8,941,862 followers, with 7,008 new followers in the last 24 hours. She has been listed 46,793 times.

  • hidden_urchin

    If I ever need to find anything,on the internet and Google fails me then I know exactly who I’m calling.

  • Tricksterson

    Jake:  The Glorious Appearing is your favorite book in the series?  Have you considered getting professional help?

  • Lori

     

    I’m looking forward to seeing the
    third book being made into a movie, and Nicolae being kicked on his keester by
    Rayford!!!    

     

    hope its as good as the book

     

    The fans of these books really make it tough for me to stick with my personal resolution not to judge people based on what they like to read. Reading quotes like these inspire so very many unkind thoughts. “Thick as a brick” and “dead inside”, being near the top of the list.

  • hidden_urchin

    I prefer to think most of the praise comes from it being a pop culture type novel that they can read without guilt. Staying in the bubble has to be boring as the Millennium.

  • flat
  • aunursa

    No, these are real-life people who absolutely love the Left Behind series.  65 million book purchasers can’t be fraudulent or insincere.

    Wrong, yes.  But sincerely wrong.

  • flat

    perhaps but I think we have the most knowledge and understanding about those series, and in time opinions can change.

  • http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke

    Sounds as if fans of the series are more excited about Ashley Tisdale as Chloe! Why? Does she get to wear not much? And if they’re so moralistic about Nic Cage being an unbeliever, why does she get a pass on her Sons of Anarchy hooker role? 

  • Lori

    Because none of the oh so holy RTCs want to admit to watching SoA?

  • aunursa

    Really? I wasn’t aware that Left Behind fans were disappointed that Nicolas Cage is starring in the film.

  • Tricksterson

    Yes Ashley Tsdale as Stripper Chloe! 

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    The Christian minister and author, who said he’s not really sure how
    much money Cloud Ten actually put into making the 2001 film,

    Oh, for the love of–

    LaHaye’s just flapping his gums at this point because he’s buttmad.

    And he’s making himself look really, really stupid.

    That’s a bad thing, mmkay, Dr. LaHaye*?

    If you are going to critique a thing YOU SPENT YEARS IN A LAWSUIT FOR, why on this God’s green Earth don’t you have all the data at your fingertips to show why you’re the best resident expert on rebooting this series?

    As it is, good riddance. Thank providence the new studio locked you out of the creative process and rehired the dudes who actually managed to make sense out of your work the first time these things got filmed.

    Srsly, LaHaye – just be happy you’ll have a lot of money in the kitty from this reboot. (-_-)


    *He has a legitimate degree in theological studies, if I remember correctly.

  • aunursa

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  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    Marcus ——- I’m looking forward to seeing the third book being
    made into a movie, and Nicolae being kicked on his keester by
    Rayford!!!

    People actually believe that Rayford Steele is an action hero equivalent in this series? Oh dear.

    Lord luv a duck, kill me now.

    And failing that, Even two palms cannot encompass the magnitude of my facepalm.

  • P J Evans

    People actually believe that Rayford Steele is an action hero equivalent in this series?

    Remember, these are also people who believe the books are great reading.
    People
    actually believe that Rayford Steele is an action hero equivalent in
    this series? – See more at:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/comment-page-1/#comment-378659

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    One must not underestimate the power of selective reading, it seems.

  • P J Evans

     Or lack of more general reading – you would think they’d meet great novels in school.

  • GeniusLemur

     Yeah, you can’t beat Moby Dick for tight plotting.

  • http://dragoness-e.livejournal.com/ Dragoness Eclectic

     When I read “Moby Dick” for literature class, my main thought was “Can you make it more obvious that you’re being paid by the word, Mr. Melville?”

  • http://blog.trenchcoatsoft.com Ross

     I wonder if it’s like the Twilight thing. Ellenjay give them some paper-thin characters and some situations compatible with their preconceived biases, and they just project onto the page, seeing what they want to be in the story rather than anything actually in the book.

    After all, Nicky’s latest speech basically screams “Don’t actually pay attention to the content of what I’m saying, just be blown away at the evil implicit in my tone! I’m just making bad-person noises, not saying sentences that have meanings!”

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    It has always been a bit amazing that L&J believe that just saying that Rayford and Buck are “good guys” and that Nicolae and his coterie are “bad guys” is enough to make their story work.

  • Tricksterson

    Not as amazing as the fact that millions of people bought into it.

  • http://twitter.com/SnarkLord Your Future Overlord

    So psychic paper in novel form?

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    And any right-thinking villain would promptly have arranged a little “accident” for Rayford right after that.

  • Tricksterson

    IIRC Nicolae just shrugs it off.

  • GeniusLemur

     He probably figures, “well, Ray’s been my pilot for a long time. If he was really gonna act against me, he would have done it by now.”

  • aunursa

    IIRC Nicolae just shrugs it off.

    “Captain Steele,” came the emotionless tone of Nicolae Carpathia [through his fully loaded cell phone]… “Though we both know how I could respond to your egregious disrespect and insubordination, I choose to forgive you.”
    Rayford continued walking, clenching his teeth to keep from screaming at the man.
    “I can tell you are at a loss for how to express your gratitude. Now listen to me. I have a safe place and provisions where my international ambassadors will join me. You and I both know we need each other, so I suggest–”

    Soul Harvest, p. 4

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GUFZNDXKK6JQGEIGV7VGXFUDKE c2t2

    aunursa

  • aunursa

    your encyclopedic knowledge of this series is beyond impressive.

    I’ve merely bookmarked links to online editions of the twelve books.  And the first ten are PDF versions, which make it easy to search them.

    (and would be even if I didn’t picture you as a yellow bear (my mental images of internet commenters are odd))

    Yes, that’s the meaning of my screenname.

    [aunursa bows in deference to c2t2]

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GUFZNDXKK6JQGEIGV7VGXFUDKE c2t2

    Holy shit, seriously???

    I tend to think in images, so I view internet denizens as some unholy mash-up of their user icon and screen name. (And patheos doesn’t do icons.)

    Anyway, I thought “Yellow bear wearing a yarmulke” was too good an image not to pass on, and it does lend a certain… something to the way I read your comments. Suddenly they are both impressive and adorable. *cough*

  • aunursa

    AU = gold
    AU + “n” = golden
    Ursa = bear

    aunursa = Golden Bear

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GUFZNDXKK6JQGEIGV7VGXFUDKE c2t2

    Yup. That was my interpretation, though I still can’t believe I got it right. Maybe because my ‘nym is pretty much keyboard salad, I’m more inclined to think other people are just as random.

  • Ben English

    “I choose to forgive you,” Nicolae says. Proving that Jenkins has no fucking idea what ‘Anti’ means.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jrandyowens Randy Owens

    “I choose to forgive you,” Nicolae says. Proving that Jenkins has no fucking idea what ‘Anti’ means.

    But remember, especially as seen in Glorious Appearing, LH&J’s Jesus doesn’t have any truck with that sissy liberal “forgiveness” nonsense. So yes, they’re consistent and know what ‘Anti’ means, at least in this case.

  • kadh2000

     ‘Tis okay.  Rayford later runs (almost tail between legs one could say) back to Nicolae because he can’t think of anything better to do.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    Yeah, wouldn’t want to be without the super special Condor 216 and its awesome listening facility – including (hnur, hnur) the loo.

  • Tricksterson

    Oh, he does.  Jenkins Jeezus would never forgive anyone anything.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    That’s the most implausible thing EVER. Rayford is openly disrespectful to Personal Sycophant Leon, and then later actually LAYS HANDS on his boss.

    In what possible world does that go unnot-

    oh, never mind. Rayford has Plot Armor because he’s LaHaye’s Gary Stu self-insert.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bobby.herrington.1 Boze Herrington

    I wonder what Tim LaHaye’s idea of a “redemptive movie” is.

  • JustoneK

    One that’s truly edifying to a born again real true christian.

    I, for one, may end up seeing this in theaters.  Nic Cage needs to eat too.

  • Tricksterson

    I don’t want to know.  I have trouble enough sleeping at night.

  • http://heathencritique.wordpress.com/ Ruby_Tea

    Also, it’s kinda funny that we, the readers of this blog, some of us non-Christians, know these books better than the Christian Post does–well enough to know that it’s Rayford, not Raymond Steele, and that Rayford, not Buck, is the leader of the Tribulation Force.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/nicolas-cage-likely-to-star-in-left-behind-rapture-series-remake-83644/

  • vsm

    Well, we do spend three years on each book. That’s way more attention than the average Left Behind reader gives to these books.

    …Are we the Left Behind fandom?

  • flat

    No we are the hatedom

  • GeniusLemur

    “It’s probably the worst script I’ve ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”“The
    plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the
    names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added. – See more at:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.4saOjWZ1.dpuf
    Lesse, the script is so bad even LeHaye thinks it’s awful, and they threw away everything but the names.“The
    plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the
    names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added. – See more at:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.4saOjWZ1.dpuf
     Sounds like we’ve got a standard-issue hollywood “adaptation” of a book/myth/older movie/etc.
    “It’s probably the worst script I’ve ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”“The
    plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the
    names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added. – See more at:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.4saOjWZ1.dpuf
    “It’s probably the worst script I’ve ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”“The
    plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the
    names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added. – See more at:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.4saOjWZ1.dpuf
    “It’s probably the worst script I’ve ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”“The
    plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the
    names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added. – See more at:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.4saOjWZ1.dpuf
    “It’s probably the worst script I’ve ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”“The
    plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the
    names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added. – See more at:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.4saOjWZ1.dpuf
    “It’s probably the worst script I’ve ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”“The
    plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the
    names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added. – See more at:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.4saOjWZ1.dpuf
    “It’s probably the worst script I’ve ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”“The
    plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the
    names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added. – See more at:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.4saOjWZ1.dpuf
    “It’s probably the worst script I’ve ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”“The
    plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the
    names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added. – See more at:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.4saOjWZ1.dpuf
    “It’s probably the worst script I’ve ever read,” LaHaye told CP. “And I’ve read scores of them.”“The
    plot line is nothing like the book. The only thing they retain are the
    names of the people, and maybe places,” LaHaye added. – See more at:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/03/03/tim-lahaye-pans-script-for-left-behind-reboot/#sthash.4saOjWZ1.dpuf

  • GeniusLemur

     Sorry about that, comments are acting wonky.

    So we’ve got a script so bad that even LeHaye realizes it’s dreadful, and it discards everything from the book but the names. Sounds like a standard-issue hollywood “adaptation”

  • Lori

     

    So we’ve got a script so bad that
    even LeHaye realizes it’s dreadful,

    We know that he thinks it’s dreadful. We don’t know that it’s appropriate to say that he realizes that it’s bad, because that implies that he’s correct. We have no way of knowing if he is or he isn’t, but we have no reason at all to assume that he is.

     

    and it discards everything from the book
    but the names. Sounds like a standard-issue hollywood “adaptation”    

    Given what utter crap the books are discarding most of the content is really the only way to have any shot at all at getting a good film. If they do manage to get a passable movie out of the garbage source material it won’t be the first time that the movie was better than the book. Yes, a high percentage of book adaptations aren’t good, but not all of them. And honestly, the worse the source material the more the movie tends to be an improvement. For example, many people have noticed that the last Twilight movie is a huge improvement over the book, because the movie folks found a way to actually have some action.

  • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

    Oddly, the Twilight books do have quite a bit of action. But written very badly, usually in passive voice, and worst of all, filtered through Bella. I haven’t seen the movies, but unless Bella has a voiceover the whole time, talking about how much she hates everything and everyone, they have to be better than the books, and Bella has to be a more appealing character than in the books. 

    Also, no one can manage to act as smug, insulting, and rude as Edward does in the books. It’s a feat beyond any actor. 

  • Lori

    I haven’t seen the movie or read the book, but friends who have tell me that in Twilight: Breaking Dawn, Part 2: Too F’ing Much Title there is actual action where in the book Breaking Dawn there’s just a bunch of characters meeting in a field and talking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bobby.herrington.1 Boze Herrington

    Invisible_Neutrino: They do seem to think they can distinguish between good guys and bad guys just by saying, “These guys are good” and “These guys are bad.” This is largely how salvation works for many Evangelicals.

    Vsm: You’re blowing my mind.

  • AnonaMiss

    Count me as another vote for a Slacktivite party to go see this in theaters.

    We should also dress as Non-RTC-ly as we’re comfortable doing, to give the unkind RTCs at the theater heart attacks (while the kind RTCs will be excited that we unbelievers are Hearing The Message).

  • AnonymousSam

    An excuse to crossdress and wear bondage gear and upside-down pentagrams and pigtails? Count me in! :p

  • Carstonio

    “Pentagrams and Pigtails” – Cindy Brady takes over lead vocals for Slayer.

  • Carstonio

    My stance on movie adaptation is that it should capture the feeling and theme of the book, without necessarily following the plot exactly. A good adaptation can explore nuances of characters, particularly through good performances.

    The Godfather is the only novel I’ve read that was improved by translation to film – the source material was more trash. My first experience with bad adaptation was The Secret of NIMH, which left out the entire message of the book.

    So even Left Behind, as bad as it is, deserves a competent adaptation. I suspect Lalonde and Patus felt that the movie version that truly captured the theme would be unwatchable. Imagine their reaction to Nicolae reciting every country’s name…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charity-Brighton/100002974813787 Charity Brighton

    I don’t judge people by what they like to read in a general sense, but I think that it’s not wrong to accuse someone who thinks that these books are well-written of having bad taste in novels. It might not make them bad people generally, but come on. The closest Rayford ever gets to “kicking Nicolae’s keester” is being in the room when Nicolae trips and falls.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    LaHaye only thinks the script is “dreadful” because he’s acting like a petulant child. If he’d had the chance to write the schlockiest piece of crap script known to exist on this Earth he’d be praising it as a masterpiece of subtlety and intuition.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    She’s kinda hot. Then again whoever plays Chloe or Hattie does kind of have to fit into the mold L&J already set up.

  • Madhabmatics

    I can only see this movie being a Starship Troopers-esque take on the book, where it is subtly critiquing it’s source material but it’s not straight out saying YO THIS IS MESSED UP so no one realizes it.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    Also, that “I choose to forgive you”? RTCs are supposed to be the ones magnanimously doling out Forgiveness Points.

    Like Buck with Chloe.

    (barf)

  • http://dragoness-e.livejournal.com/ Dragoness Eclectic

    I’ve also heard that actors do the shlock movies so they can afford to do the special projects they really want to.

  • GeniusLemur

    IIRC, the studio didn’t want to do “The Quiet Man” (didn’t think there was a market), but John Wayne did. So he said, “Look, let me do ‘Quiet Man,’ and I’ll do these three purely commercial projects for you. That’ll take care of any money you lose on ‘Quiet Man.'”

  • Lori

    Bill Murray did Ghostbusters in order to get the studio to finance his version of Razor’s Edge.

  • Tricksterson

    Which was gawdawful.

  • Jurgan

    ““Some day I’d like to do that, but not now,” LaHaye explained.”  Yeah, what’s the rush?  If you don’t get your movie made soon, it’s not the end of the worl- oh, wait…

  • Rae

    Let’s see… 
    “worst script I’ve ever read”
    “plot line is nothing like the book”
    “a lot of intrigue”

    Considering that the source material is hovering on the painful side of the line that distinguishes between painfully bad and so bad it’s good, going in any direction seems like it would be an improvement. 

    I still want to see who’s going to play the antichrist, though! I’m hoping that it’ll be someone who doesn’t try to do “serious acting” so much as someone who thinks the role is awesome and will just run with it.

  • Nomuse

    For some reason I want to see Travolta in this.  Maybe he can bring HIS god and there can be a cage match  (pun not intended).

  • http://www.facebook.com/WingedWyrm Charles Scott

    BTW. I still support Bruce Campbell for antichrist.  Bruce Campbell vs Nick Cage.  You know that, somewhere in the darkest pits of your mind, you want to see it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Riastlin-Lovecraft/100000678992705 Riastlin Lovecraft

    I repeat. Jeremy Irons for antichrist.

  • Carstonio

    If Jack Cassidy were alive, he would be my candidate for Antichrist. He played villains on some 1970s crime dramas, urbane and debonair but with a dark side.

  • walden

    Why all the hatred for Moby Dick?
    It’s one of my favorite books of all time.

    The problem is that if you want to read it as an adventure tale, you’re becalmed at sea for long periods of time.  But it’s not primarily an adventure tale…it’s philosophical and psychological essays hung onto what looks superficially like an adventure tale.  (It’s the Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance of the mid-19th century).  I  love this book.

  • Carstonio

    I’ve only read The Hobbit. What did you think of Jackson’s first entry in his trilogy? I’m still angry about the greed of stretching out the book into three movies, and the I thought the padding was fairly obvious. The escape from the goblins took forever. But I liked the look of the 2D digital projection – far brighter and more colorful that many film projections.

  • aunursa

    I haven’t read The Hobbit yet, so I can’t compare the movie to the book.  I was surprised that I enjoyed the movie as much as the LotR films.

  • AnonymousSam

    I went into it skeptical and suspecting padding as well, but came out of the theater quite pleased. I thought the expanded length allowed Jackson a lot of opportunity to give the dwarves added depth and character. Having such a huge cast makes it difficult to flesh out each character and some of the dwarves are still just there, but I suppose that’s the problem with lifting your cast directly from the Völuspá. :p

  • Rae

    The only thing I felt like was “padding” was the rock giant fight, but I’m a huge Tolkien fangirl who would have liked to see the original trilogy in six movies and would happily sit through a fifteen-hour film of The Silmarillion if someone made it, so I may not be the best person to ask about this… 

    I absolutely loved the HFR filming, though. It was beautiful! 

  • Carstonio

    The rock giant fight was part of what I meant by padding. Other scenes seemed to last too long. It took forever for Bilbo to get on the road with the dwarves.

    Am I correct in assuming that the 2D version was standard frame rate?

  • Rashhuman

    Christians taking Christians to court? I’m sure the Bible says something about that…

  • phoenix_feather

    I need to start coming back here more often–I can’t believe I almost missed this gem of an update! 

    I kind of want to show up to theaters with an NJC216 (the Mark of the Beast) drawn on my forehead.  And if anyone asks, just be like, “Oh, well usually when I watch an action movie I root for the side that’s NOT blowing up the planet.”

     

  • http://spiritnewsdaily.com/ Donovan Moore

    Gee, Jesus hasn’t come back yet and left anyone behind. Oh well, Timmy made some good money selling his bullshit to the sheeple.