Anglican Evensong in Washington

My friend, Fr. Eric Bergman makes the Wall Street Journal here. The report is about a celebration of Choral Evensong the weekend of the March for Life by Catholics interested in the Apostolic Constitution Anglicanorum Coetibus. Fr Bergman is pastor of the latest Anglican Use parish in Scranton, PA. He predicts ‘the end of the Reformation’ and believes many Protestants will ‘come home to Rome’ as the Anglican-Catholic parishes get established. Go Eric!

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/09829257111579899926 Jonathan

    Fr. Dwight, Nice plug the other day, over at Just Genesis, for your blog.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994 shadowlands

    I think Catholics should start getting a grip and apologizing to Protestants, frankly(which I like to be).Protestants have ever only had 'faith alone' If Catholics ever consider the life of Protestants, and how they must have, and do have to do, before they convert, us cradle Catholics take it all for granted. Look up Anne Widdecombe, see what she went through, conscience wise. Mind you,she did end up converting.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994 shadowlands

    Having ranted all of that, I would just like to say, because it is the truth, whoever calls upon the name of the Lord; Jesus Christ, shall be saved. Amen.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/11474497646507178537 Dean

    "Not everyone who cries out to me, Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom of Heaven. Many will say to me on that day,' Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deads in your name?Then I will declare solemnly,"I never knew you. Depart from me you evil doers.'" (Matt 7:21-23)

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994 shadowlands

    I wish I could be ten foot tall Dean. You dare to limit Our Father's Mercy!!! Mind your mouth!!Do you begin, to even have an understanding, of Our (your)Father's Heart?I have given birth, as a woman,yet as I say my Rosary, I begin to sense just what it was, Our Lady was saying 'Yes' to.She watched her own son, being crucified!!!Let's all of us, get a grip, and humble!Who the heck, do we think we are???I am a coward, in comparison.Ros, shadowlands

  • http://catholicofthule.wordpress.com catholicofthule

    Shadowlands, I'm a little confused by your comments. Perhaps I misunderstand them and if so, please feel free to correct me if the following completely misses your point and misrepresents you. It is not my intention, but I am addressing a possible interpretation of your words.Yes, it is hard for many Protestants, but how is that mainly the fault of the Church, except perhaps where the Church fails to proclaim the truth in charity and help them come home? Both elements of that are important. Truth without charity is fruitless, but without truth, proper charity cannot even exist. The worst thing we can do is to fail to encourage people to come home to Holy Mother Church and to fail to stand by and proclaim the Truth as the Truth. And to pray very hard for the conversion of all, and especially for the hour of death of those who have not converted before. That is charity. Now there are times when Catholics preach indifferentism and for that we should apologise. There are times when we fail to be charitable and fail to proclaim the truth in and through our lives, and for that we should apologise. One may even point out mistakes done by various people at various history of the reformation that made the issue worse, and for that one may, of course, apologise.I should end by saying, btw, that I am a convert. Though mine was not quite the same journey as that of a convinced, but tortured, Protestant.

  • http://catholicofthule.wordpress.com catholicofthule

    It is charitable to implore God's mercy. It is an act against the very nature of charity, and at best a subjectively misguided attempt at an expression of an affective wish, to presume on it.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994 shadowlands

    meant to say 'become humble'

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994 shadowlands

    catholicofhule,thank you, for regognising my presence on earth, always makes me feel good.As for my love of protestants, and the reason for it: Most Protestants have taken a large number of years out of their lives, to decide or commit to why they believe, waht they believe. This is my personal experience. M ost of my cradle Catholic acquaintances, take their faith , totally for granted and to be quite frank; the only reason I came to know Our Lord Jesus, was down to a Baptist!Fact.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994 shadowlands

    recognizing.Still meant what I said about the Baptists.

  • http://catholicofthule.wordpress.com catholicofthule

    I obviously agree with you there. :-) I know how many graces and gifts God gave me, and how I have squandered, and squander them along the way, and it is very important to recognise that one has not come even as far as we have by relying on one's own powers. And so, of course, we should absolutely respect the struggles of others, and it is very easy not to do so when one looks at things from our present point of view and think they should be obvious. I know I do that a lot when I have no reason to do so based on my history, and it is obviously not helpful not to take people seriously in their struggles. However, I would like to say that Dean's quotation in itself is in no way an expression of limiting God's mercy. It is a warning spoken by Our Lord himself.

  • http://catholicofthule.wordpress.com catholicofthule

    I should point out that I meant that I obviously agree with you in the need for humility. However, it seems to me that the proper response and expression of gratitude to the Baptist who helped you, as well as the proper expression of love and respect for Protestants, is to work and pray for their complete conversion. Why would one not wish to help those one love come to God fully. One may be sincere and yet sincerely wrong, and we have no right to presume on God's mercy in either way. We do our bit, and leave to God to do his. The presence of lapsed or lax Catholics in no way invalidates the above point. The present of horrible abuse by individuals in the Chuch does not invalidate this point. It does, of course, create a horrible barrier, and if we all were saints, the whole world would probably have been converted by now. Part of all this is to strive for personal holiness, though I do not pretend to have advanced very far on that way myself. I am even a lot better about recognising the need for prayer than to pray enough! PS. 'Recognising' with an 's' is fine in British English.

  • http://catholicofthule.wordpress.com catholicofthule

    Oh, I didn't see it was the 'g' you were correcting. :-)

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/03191575373788669991 Barry and Barbara Knister

    As a first-time visitor to your blog,I am amused to see Catholics talking about "ending the Reformation." But on reflection, I see that such talk is perfectly consistent with your religion. That is, with a faith whose hierarchy has for centuries supported,through concealment, deception and willful indifference the sodomizing of children. The sale of indulgences seemed reason enough to bring about radical change, but it pales before current abuses.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/06349146033236890779 Giovanni A. Cattaneo

    To Barbara and Barry,We are not talking about ending the reformation, that would be ridiculous we are talking about the end of the reformation which started in 1521.You see heresies are born and heresies die that is a given weather it grows in between that is God's will. All stories about the reformers or anything that protestants do or don't do are footnotes (or footstools if you will) in the history of the Catholic Church. The Church has been here long before and will be here long after your ecclesiastical communities are dust.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/11474497646507178537 Dean

    Shadowlands I've been busy the past few days.First of all, I normally find your comments of interest.Secondly, always liked the face in the trees icon you used to use.Now getting down to brass tacks.I posted a quotation from the lips of our Lord, as recorded by St Matthew. I added no commentary.In what way did I dare to limit the Father's mercy?

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/18316019150850341214 Mike

    Hello,Your blog has been recommended to us as a interviewee's favorite blog!We would like to do an interview with you about your blog forwww.BlogInterviewer.com . We'd like to give you the opportunity togive us some insight on the "person behind the blog."It would just take a few minutes of your time. The interview form canbe submitted online at http://bloginterviewer.com/submit-an-interviewBest regards,Mike Thomas

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/12858120820470784593 Anneg

    B&B;, Do you know what calumny is? You might want to look it up. If you are a troll, I'll just pray for you. AnneG in NC


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