"Under God" and Why it Matters

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  • Lurker Priest

    I am always impressed by Fr. Barron and his incredible talent for blending the popular with the sacred.

    I differ a bit with the argument he puts forth here. America does not have a king nor a ruler (actually, God never meant for Israel to have a king either!). We have a president who is subject to the checks and balances Fr. Barron mentions but also to the “will” of the people.

    The omission of “under God” is more appropriately an insinuation of the “the people” rather than “nothingness” or “tyranny”. Sadly, many Catholic churches are following the same model. The “People of God” touted heavilly in the post-VC2 days now is more just “The People”. As it is said to often in too many seminaries and parishes, “the voice of the people is the voice of God”.There is no cohesiveness to Catholicism and, as Fr. mentions, the Sabbath doesn’t bring people to a common point anymore.

    Our current ideas of “liberty” (self-determination) and “justice” (civil rights) have entered not just the national sphere but the religious. That’s why it’s hard to find many places that can talk of God, even at the altar. Because he’s an obstacle to the liberty and justice of “the people”.

  • James

    Fr. Barron is simply the best. He’s a rare dichotomy of superb intelligence and sublime humility. The Church needs more voices like this.

    “In their pride the demons take flight at the sight of the sublime virtue practices by those who are truly humble.” – St Francis of Assisi

  • http://salesianity.blogspot.com Padre Steve

    Amazing. He always says what I am thinking… Even before I think it!

  • Mary De Voe

    Lurker Priest: G.K. Chesterton said: “If there were no God, there would be no atheists.” The “will of the people” is always for the “common good”, because our Constitution and America is constituted “to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity,”
    “Our constitutional posterity” is all generations to come who are conceived in virginity, and perfect and absolute moral and legal innocence. The “common good” invoked of Divine Providence in The Declaration of Independence, for these yet to be brought into existence, and preserved for them, is the “will of the people.”
    Lurker priest says:”Our current ideas of “liberty” (self-determination) and “justice” (civil rights) have entered not just the national sphere but the religious. That’s why it’s hard to find many places that can talk of God, even at the altar. Because he’s an obstacle to the liberty and justice of “the people”. If our Creator endows us with “unalienable” civil rights and the virtue of Justice, how is this not “religious”?How is this an “obstacle” to the liberty and Justice of “the people?” If the atheist arrogates to himself the tyranny, the mob mentality of denying citizens their liberty and civil rights, by denying to them their God-given”unalienable rights”, hardly “the will of the people”, the atheist forfeits his citizenship and legal standing in a court of law.
    In God we trust in one nation under God.
    Lurker priest: I hope all lurkers get arrested and put in jail for the rest of their life.

  • Jane Hartman

    A few years ago, I came across the Cookbook “A Return to Sunday Dinner.” My husband, a pastor, and I had become tired and wrung out from the constant go, go, go, of life. Even on Sunday, a day that routinely is supposed to be more calm and worshipful, we found ourselves tired, depressed, and not ready to face the coming week. Well, through the intervention of the Holy Spirit, I became convicted to establish a Sabbath routine. We would go to church on Sunday morning, come home to a homecooked meal, that is worked out on Saturday, worship, eat, rest, nap, relax, read, go for walks, visit our families, catch up with old friends. It has revolutionized our life! I agree with this Father. He’s right about “under God” being so very important. And he’s right about the Sabbath.


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