Ground-up Babies in Pill Form – UPDATE

Help me out here — I’m having a really hard time believing this is real, via the AP’s Hyung-Jin Kim: SKorea finds smuggled capsules contain human flesh:

South Korea has seized thousands of smuggled drug capsules filled with powdered flesh from dead babies, which some people believe can cure disease, officials said Monday.

The capsules were made in northeastern China from babies whose bodies were chopped into small pieces and dried on stoves before being turned into powder, the Korea Customs Service said.

Customs officials refused to say where the dead babies came from or who made the capsules, citing possible diplomatic friction with Beijing. Chinese officials ordered an investigation into the production of drugs made from dead fetuses or newborns last year.

The customs office has discovered 35 smuggling attempts since August of about 17,450 capsules disguised as stamina boosters, and some people believe them to be a panacea for disease, the customs service said in a statement. The capsules of human flesh, however, contained bacteria and other harmful ingredients.

The smugglers told customs officials they believed the capsules were ordinary stamina boosters and did not know the ingredients or manufacturing process.

Seems it’s a real story

I was already feeling lousy. Now I feel genuinely sick.

UPDATE: Updates from The Week (sent along by Ed Morrissey, thanks, Ed!)

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  • Rhinestone Suderman

    In fact, what’s the problem with any human tissue being used as ‘medicine’? Since said tissue doesn’t possess consciosness, or memories, all on its own, what’s the problem? And suppose a goodly number of humans decide it’s okay, and that using such medicines doesn’t violate their basic humanity? Do we have any right to judge them? Suppose somebody says they’re going to die, if they don’t get ground-up baby pills—or spare body parts, from an unwilling political prisoner? Or from their clone, whom they’ve raised to be used as an organ bank? Who are we to tell them they can’t do this? Don’t they have the right to choose? (And, even though the prisoner, and the clone, have memories, and consciousness—well, it can be argued that they are only potential, or damaged beings, suffering from false consciosness, and the illusion that they’re real. And who’se to say when life really begins, anyway? Maybe the prisoner has insufficient memories, and self-awareness—and the clone is merely a parasite, or the original—c’mon, Pete, you know they’re going to say stuff like this!)

    And I apologize for dealing in hypotheticals, here—but The Slippery Slope is always a lot more slippery than people realize.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    Sorry, in my previous post I should have said that etiquette and basic humanity are pretty poor prevantatives against evil. My mistake.

  • mark†

    Mark – Which God? Ok, I’ll play your game.

    The one who saw a world filled with hopeless sinners and He acted to save them. Who so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. The one ”who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,…” The one who is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.” The one who take what Christ did; perfect obedience, atoning death, resurrection, and apply it to me, a poor miserable sinner.

  • Pete

    Brian – I am not saying that I am right and they are wrong but illustrating the fact that everyone on here (the blogger and commenters) all agree this behaviour is repulsive and vile. My point is that, even as an atheist, I managed to find it disgusting all by myself and without the influence of a supernatural deity. That is a basic example of human morality. By different methods, 99.99% of humans will get to the same conclusion. It is how we have survived as a species (or don’t you believe in natural selection/evolution either?)

    I don’t think that they should be allowed to cut the foetuses up and put them in capsules for the simple reason that it is utterly pointless.

    Rhinestone – I have repeated the ‘potential’ question over and over. It is a child/human/a life when it can support itself outside the womb. I do not mean that in a fending-for-itself way but it can deal with the small aspect of, say, breathing. The main problem you seem to have is our differing uses of the word child and foetus. I do not think it is ok to kill children. However, abortion is not doing that.

    The point you are making about all those examples about what to do with a foetus is odd but does again show similarities between atheism and theism. I don’t think a foetus should be used for any of the things you mentioned and as a result I wouldn’t do them. I also know, due to the fact that any instances of your examples actually happening would be documented, that the vast proportion of the world (apart from our Chinese friends in the article) would agree. Therein lies my point, I am not religious, I do not believe in a god, I am a moral human being, and yet I come to the same conclusions as you about this article. It is abhorrent.

    You ask ‘who’se basic humanity’? But you have answered the question yourself. Humanity. The idea of the same species cohesively working together. As a species we don’t need priests, bishops, ayatollahs, monks, etc telling us how to live, but we choose to as religion is a comfortable place for the ignorant and insecure. (I don’t go to starbucks by the way).

    I don’t think it is very appropriate to say that humanity didn’t prevent the atrocities of the 20th century. You only need to look at the Rwandan genocide, Jeffery Dahmer, Catholic extermination camps in Croatia during WW2, the systematic sexual abuse and cover-up by catholic priests all over the world, etc to see that religion didn’t do much to prevent atrocities either. And that’s only the ‘christian’ examples.

    Mark – That ‘god’ is one of over 2500 man-made deities that have been recorded in human civilisations. What if you believe in the wrong one? Also, there have been approximately 100,000 years since humanoids have lived on this planet. You say god gave up his son to save these people (this didn’t happen 2000 years ago) so are you saying that god looked down on his creation for 98,000 years of hardship for people (death in childbirth, wars, murders, rapes) with complete indifference and then decided to act?

    Point is, there is no god. How can there be? There is no evidence/proof to suggest otherwise.

  • Brian English

    “My point is that, even as an atheist, I managed to find it disgusting all by myself and without the influence of a supernatural deity. That is a basic example of human morality.”

    So cutting up an unborn child and throwing her in the garbage is okay with you, but cutting the pieces of her up into smaller pieces, drying them, and putting them in a capsule is icky and wrong.

    “By different methods, 99.99% of humans will get to the same conclusion.”

    But who are you to tell that .01% that they cannot ingest capsules containing chopped up unborn chidren? If you think swallowing one of those capsules is wrong, don’t swallow one.

    “It is how we have survived as a species (or don’t you believe in natural selection/evolution either?)”

    This is a Catholic website buddy. Save that nonsense for the Fundamentalist Evangelicals. We invented the scientific method you now worship.

    “I don’t think that they should be allowed to cut the foetuses up and put them in capsules for the simple reason that it is utterly pointless.”

    So if the capsules actually improved the health or vitality of the people who count as people (the ones with thoughts and memories) you would be okay with it?

  • mark†

    Pete, You don’t believe in God, duh!.

    “There is no evidence/proof to suggest otherwise.” 1 Corinthians 15.

  • Pete

    Brian – (1) I wouldn’t say ‘icky and wrong’ but pointless and futile. Also, as I have said on numerous occasions, it is not a child. It is a foetus.

    (2)I am no-one to tell anyone what to do, and I wasn’t doing that. I was merely expressing my opinion about people who do make/consume those capsules. If only religious people would heed your advice and stop instructing others how to live their life on no moral high ground whatsoever.

    (3)I don’t worship anything. Isn’t that the point of atheism?

    (4) Hypothetical arguments are pointless. I agree with Rhinestone on this.

    Mark – I know i don’t believe in god. Why do you? And scripture isn’t evidence/proof. It’s like saying mercedes commercials make a good case for buying a mercedes.


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