“Monstrous Evil” Indeed

If I were not already feeling sick this story found by Mark Shea would get me there. Mark calls it a “monstrous evil” and he is correct — this is nanny-statism and bureaucracy out-of-control, and it’s only going to get worse:

Even after Marie Freyre died alone in a nursing home 250 miles from the family in North Tampa that loved her, Marie’s mother had to fight to bring her home.

In March 2011, state child protection investigators took 14-year-old Marie from her mother, Doris Freyre, claiming Doris’ own disabilities made it almost impossible for her to care for Marie, who suffered from seizures and severe cerebral palsy. But a Tampa judge signed an order that Marie be returned to her mother, with in-home nursing care around the clock.

Florida health care administrators refused to pay for it, although in-home care can be demonstrably cheaper than care in an institution. Child welfare workers ignored the order completely.

Two months later, Marie was strapped into an ambulance for a five-hour trip to a Miami Gardens nursing home, as her mother begged futilely to go with her.

Marie died 12 hours after she arrived.

Read it all. The details will turn your stomach and break your heart. The state would not allow the mother to get a private autopsy on her daughter.

At the end of the hearing, [Judge] Corvo required child welfare administrators to do better. She wrote an order that Marie be returned to her mother, with additional nursing care through the night.

It was an order the state simply ignored.

Records show state child welfare workers disregarded Corvo’s order that Hillsborough Kids, which was under contract with the DCF, pay for the extra nursing hours while caseworkers looked into additional dollars from Medicaid.

Two weeks later, the state Attorney General’s Office and Hillsborough Kids appeared before a different judge, Emily Peacock [...] The new judge, who never asked why the state ignored a prior judge’s order [emphasis mine -admin], agreed — though she granted Freyre the right to visit with her daughter all she wanted. But even that kindness proved meaningless.
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So, at 11:30 a.m. April 25, 2011, workers at Tampa General Hospital loaded the teen onto a stretcher in a private ambulance — as her mother and grandfather begged them to stop. Even as caseworkers were packing Marie’s belongings, her grandfather was frantically filing hand-written emergency motions in court to delay the trip, Brudny said.

Doris Freyre, case notes say, “stated that no one knows my child like me,” and that Marie’s dislocated hip would cause her great pain if she were strapped to a stretcher for hours. She added: “If something happens to my daughter I am holding all of you responsible for it.”

Freyre had no car — and the private ambulance refused to allow her to join Marie — so Marie made the trip to Miami-Dade County alone.

Records show the two ambulance workers refused to take Marie’s seizure drugs with them; under the company’s policy, they were not allowed to administer medications in any case. According to a report detailing Tampa General Hospital’s care of Marie, the hospital neglected to ensure she was properly hydrated before she left. During her five-hour ambulance ride, she was given no water or food.
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Marie arrived in Miami Gardens the way she left Tampa: screaming. AHCA records for the next 12 hours mention only four notations in the nursing home file, and two of them document Marie “screaming.”

By 5:40 a.m. April 27, 2011, Marie was described as having “labored” breathing. Five minutes later, she was unresponsive. The AHCA investigation concluded she had been given none of her life-sustaining anti-seizure drugs, required three times each day.

Marie was pronounced dead at 6:54 a.m. Cause of death: heart attack.
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[Assistant State AG] Attila, the prosecutor who, weeks earlier, had fought so hard to get Marie to the nursing home, no longer wanted to discuss the matter. She told Peacock that a child welfare judge had no “jurisdiction” over a dead child and prosecutors would file a court motion saying so.
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Marie’s body remained in storage for nine months while the medical examiner’s office completed its autopsy, and Freyre held a memorial with no body.

I hope this mother owns Florida when this is over.

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  • http://www.breakpoint.org Gina

    UGH. So do I. There is NO excuse.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    And won’t it be swell when government employees like these are handling health care for everybody? /Sarc.

    Like the Anchoress, I hope the mother ends up owning Florida.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    By the way, I believe disabled American children and adults dodged a bullet when the U.N. disabilities act was voted down! (And God bless the senators who voted against it—”Every one,” as Tiny Tim would say!)

    Wouldn’t it have been swell to have the U.N. anti-semetic, America hating Kleptocracy taking care of disabled Americans? I mean, they’ve done such a bang-up job in other places! /Sarc.

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  • ME

    Someone should be in jail for this kind of willful negligence. Monstrous.

  • http://LadyLiberty1885.wordpress.com LadyLiberty1885

    After reading this…I am typing this very carefully, so as not to break my keyboard in half. I am positively horrified. The prosecutor – Atilla, aptly named, should be named, tarred, feathered, prosecuted and jailed for accessory to murder. Period. The End.

    Just wait for Obamacare and its horrors.

  • Val

    The tone of this post, and of all the comments to it, are in complete contradiction to the situation that created this tragedy.

    From the Miami Herald:

    “Civil rights lawyers are asking the state to allow a federal judge to oversee Florida’s Medicaid program, which insures needy and disabled people. The program will pay as much as $506 a day — twice the rate for frail elders — to put a child like Marie in a nursing home, but refuses to cover lesser or similar amounts for in-home care.

    Late Friday, state health regulators wrote their final letter to the Justice Department in response to a deadline. The state, they wrote, “is not in violation of any federal law” governing the medical care delivered to needy Floridians, and cannot “agree to the demand …that a federal court take over the management of Florida’s Medicaid service-delivery system.”

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/12/01/3122792/marie-a-little-girls-death-by.html

    This has far less to do with “the nanny state” or the much-dreaded Obamacare than with rules established by a well-lobbied ‘health care’ industry.

  • Zmama

    OMG-poor baby! Like the other commenters here I fear we will see many more such cases in the future due to the new health care law. When I was in college I worked pt-time at a Catholic home for children very much like Marie. When the home first opened decades ago, most of the children were survivors of polio. With that scourge thankfully eradicated in this country, the majority of the children who resided in the home had suffered from cerebral palsy at birth. Along with the physical limitations of CP many of the children suffered from seizure disorders just like Marie. I vividly remember the first day I arrived on the girls wing seeing one of the more profoundly handicapped girls. I admit to initially thinking she could not understand much, dare I say-was like a vegetable-and boy was I ever wrong. Because of her form of CP she was a very messy eater and the full-time aids would typically assign her at meal time to one of us pt-timers. At first it was tough not to be a bit grossed out with the pureed food that wouldn’t stay in her mouth. Over time however we made a real connection and I realized although she couldn’t talk she understood EVERYTHING I was saying to her. I took the time to follow up on the work the occupational therapist was doing with her and let her try to feed herself, even though it took longer than the way the other staff would feed her. After awhile we got so close that if I was assigned to one of the other girls in the dining room this little girl would look around for me. There were a few other little girls, all African American, about the same age-between 10 and 12, also non-verbal who I dearly loved. They couldn’t talk to me but I swear they understood all my jokes when I would talk to them in the lounge as they lay on their mats. One of the other little girls had the more rigid form of CP and reading about Marie screaming on the stretcher, brings that little girl to mind. I think this sweet little girl was in near constant pain because of her contracted muscles. We were always careful to place a foam wedge between her knees when we put laid her in her crib at night and as careful as we were there wasn’t a day I worked with her that I didn’t see her wince in pain. So reading about Marie breaks my heart-for her and her mother and grandfather.

    I later worked with teens with emotional problems before I went into education and taught elementary ed. My work with those girls at that home was the most physically demanding job I’ve ever had but it was also the most rewarding. Every day I would come home, peel off my clothes, hop in the shower, and literally thank God that I was able to stand in that shower myself, dress myself, feed myself, and communicate with my family and friends. Those children taught me so much and they gave so much more to me than I ever could give to them. If you’ve ever read Morris West’s the Clowns of God you know how precious children like Marie are in God’s eyes. It terrifies me what may be coming soon in our country. It is nothing short of the form of terror the Nazis inflicted on the handicapped. Reading this piece about beautiful Marie-I am afraid that moment has already arrived.

  • MI Will

    Both the Florida governor and attorney general were (and are) Republicans. The governor apparently use to run a hospital/health care business.

  • http://www.patheos.com Amy

    This happened almost 20 months ago..why wasn’t this news then?

  • Adam

    If the allegations are true, then I hope justice prevails.

    *Having said that,* I’m about to take what I suspect will be an unpopular position on here: that we should all calm down and allow the facts to develop.

    Full disclosure here: I’m a government attorney. I work for the U.S. Air Force in various capacities, so I have no connection to the state of Florida (other than living there briefly) and no prior knowledge of this case. What I will say is that I have experience in being on the receiving end of cases where the government is accused of being “the big bad, heartless, racist, sexist, etc. government” and the media wants to crucify my client. I’ve been on difficult cases where I believe the government acted correctly and the facts were on our side, but because there were allegations of racism, sexism, or other wrongdoing, and because somebody complained to the press in order to win in the court of public opinion first, it was an uphill battle.

    The fact is, what you have here are allegations run through the filter of a news story. You do not have the other side of the story–the government employees’ side of events, for example. (I.e., the story says the paramedics didn’t take the medications. What if they did, and somebody’s lying or the reporter has the facts wrong?)

    I see that the prosecutor has refused to comment on the story. That’s standard P.R. strategy. I received media relations training about a year ago, and the advice was NEVER TALK TO THE PRESS, but to refer them to Public Affairs. This wasn’t for purposes of covering things up, but because the media is notorious for looking for people on camera to screw up and say something stupid. Hence, the Sarah Palins and Todd Akins of the world have been caught on camera, run off at the mouth innocently, and a soundbite runs out of control. Innocent or not, the prosecutor and the other parties need to stay away from the press and seek legal counsel.

    While I appreciate the Catholic bias against government these days–we live in the culture of death!–I am equally frustrated by our tendency to rush to judgment. We have been rightly upset at the following events:

    - The President commenting on the “Skip” Gates arrest back in 2009 (“I don’t have all the facts, but the cops acted stupidly here”)
    - The Duke LaCrosse players being crucified for a rape allegation which later proved to be false
    - The media’s rush to judgment on George Zimmerman
    - The pro-abortion community’s rush to indict Catholics and the Irish Government for Savita Halappanavar’s death
    - The media’s rush to decide Jesus Christ was married because a scholar purported to have an ancient scroll which said so

    …and so forth, yet we are quick to indict whomever was involved with this case.

    Again, I emphasize that we don’t have all the facts in this case. We have an allegation and a news story. As Catholics, we are to seek both justice and the truth. We are also called to be forgiving and merciful. So AS THIS STORY DEVELOPS, I’d hope that the accused parties are innocent. If the state is liable for this death, then I hope it comes clean, and offers a reasonable and just settlement. If the state is liable and doesn’t come clean, then I hope a fair trial uncovers the truth and leads to a just result.

    But PLEASE remember that there are human beings on both sides of this who need truth, love, understanding, forgiveness, and redemption (and yes, subjection to justice if they’re liable). I get worried when I see calls for someone to be “tarred, feathered, prosecuted and jailed for accessory to murder” when we’re still at the allegation stage–if your parent, spouse, child, or good friend were facing these kind of allegations, you’d be horrified at such cries. I hope that we’re above visceral emotional reactions when all the facts aren’t out yet.

    Come, Holy Spirit.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    Adam, whatever the facts are in this case—the girl was alive, when she was left with her mother.

    When the government took her away, she was dead within hours. It’s pretty obvious somebody, somewhere, effed up big time!

    At best, this sounds like horrific negligence, and disregard for the child’s welfare. (Shouldn’t the paramedics have been aware of the child’s need for life saving medications and made sure they had them on hand? Why wasn’t the mother allowed to ride along in the ambulance? Why wasn’t home care provided? Oh, by the way—I think it’s a bit, um. . . weasely to drop hints that somebody might have lied about the medication. Got any evidence of that?)

    At worst? Well, we won’t think about the worst, not yet. . .

    I’m all in favor of truth, love and redemption, but I’m also in favor of disabled children being treated with respect, kindness and decency. It sounds as if the human beings in this case failed miserably at that.

    Somebody’s got a lot of “‘splainin’” to do, here.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    And so far from being a rush to judgment, it sounds like the government’s been trying to cover this up for months. (The mother kept on, and didn’t let them get away with it.)

    As for Attila the Prosecutor (you can’t make this stuff up!), maybe she just didn’t want to talk to the press. . . but she certainly sounds cold—and clueless—in what she did say:

    “Not to seem insensitive; I understand the mother is quite frustrated, and I understand that she’s grieving”, Attila said, “But the information she’s providing the court is moot at this time.”

    Got that? the information is moot—because the kid’s dead—so, not that I want to seem uncaring or anything; I mean, I understand having your child die can be sorta frustrating, and I guess the mom feels kinda bad, but, gee whiz, can’t you quite pestering me about all this stuff that doesn’t matter anymore?

    Errrrgh.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    Looking back at the article, it says that records show the ambulance workers refused to take the medication, and their company’s policy is that they not administer such medications en route (WTF????). So, it doesn’t sound as if anyone’s lying about the meds.; I assume the records referred to are the ambulance, and/or hospital records, so what motive would they have to lie?

  • Victor

    Anchoress, http://www.tampabay.com/news/disabled-daughter-dies-just-hours-after-state-takes-her-from-mom/1264535
    there’s so much to read here and I must confess that I still have not even read any of the comments but the good news that I’ve managed to find is that “IT” happened in 2011 and since then many many people are aware of these kinds of situation.

    http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/2012/12/expresses-love-and-fidelity-for-the-faith-of-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-55891

    If only our children could learn early in life, especially during this year of “Faith” that souls and spirits do exist and don’t always have the greatess of places to live in reality but that doesn’t mean that GOD will not continue to LOVE U>S (usual sinners) just because what goes around will someday come around again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGZP92YJkpY

    Peace

  • Jo walton

    I’ve been crying over this story ever since it broke today. This is monstrous. Damn, I’m tearing up again right now thinking about it.

    Rhinestone Suderman: Yes, a private foster agency employed by the state of Florida (and thus the ever-dangerous Rick Scott, a Republican of course, who is (in)famous for covering up the poisoning of Florida’s drinking water and who actively engaged in voter suppression) IGNORED court orders to return this girl to her home and hired a private ambulance service who don’t employ actual doctors and/or nurses to supervise and don’t give medication during transport (of course private ambulances want to hire strictly drivers, it’s not the safety but the $$$$ that matters, right?). The fact that Florida STATE refuses to pay (federally-issued) health care money for home assistance (which is what the mother of this child asked for) and routinely stocks disabled Floridian children in 6 nursery homes/institutions throughout the state that cost much more a day than the above-mentioned much better alternative has been HOTLY contested by the Federal Government, the US Federal Civil Rights Committee and others for years. Even more so recently because the state of Florida’s draconian state regulations do not correspond with the health care reform bill President Obama passed in the least.

    The fact that out of the six private or state-run institutions Florida uses to place disabled children in, two were already on FLA medical association/Fed watch lists and that certain federal committees and many medical associations already had refused to cooperate with the place Marie was brought to any longer since 2011 is astonishing. Marie’s center was one of those two on Fed watch lists, and the private foster agency chose to send her to that one because it was apparently the only one “willing to take her”.

    It’s Republicans’ ideals who have helped cause this tragedy, “ideals” the GOP is all about:

    1) Taking as much control away from the feds as possible and give it all to the states
    2) Privatization of everything.

    1) Florida state aided in this tragedy by employing private medical companies and their draconian rules of not “squandering” money on home aid which actually costs less than institutionalizing disabled children.
    2) Private foster agency employed by state of Florida aided in this tragedy – it made the decision to ignore a court order and to hire a privately run ambulance.

    What did the federal government do? Oppose the hell out of these brutal health care rules in Florida, as it has been doing for YEARS.

    Oh, and as for stating how those “Bless their hearts!” Republicans were right for not voting for the UN treaty? Please look up what the UN actually does – they have NOTHING to do with personal, local or even federal sovereignty (even less so in countries that aren’t being invaded, aren’t fighting a Civil War, are Western, modernized industrialized nations, etc. etc.). It’s paranoid delusion to claim the UN is coming after America’s “freedoms” while in fact, this treaty was created so countries all across the globe (UN members) would be given a guideline (not a law) of possible rules they could implement and how to enforce them on a local OR central level if they wished to do so in order to take better care of their disabled citizens.

    It’s symbolic but also would’ve given those that are less better off than the West among the 120+ countries that voted for the treaty the tools to change their own legislation regarding citizens with disabilities. That’s it. The UN never has and never will gain any sovereignty over the US whatsoever unless it becomes a war-torn third-world-country (and even then…), and frankly, thinking to the contrary sounds a bit like country megalomania. The US was basically the only Western country blocking this treaty, which was mostly symbolic but was wholly meant as encouragement. The rest of the world, believe me, does not care about the US or how you home-school your kids. The treaty was even modeled after the bipartisan Americans With Disabilities Act that passed in 1990!

    But it got just short of the needed 2/3rd ratification votes because of the US, so apparently the ADA was great for Americans and f*** the rest of the world’s disabled, right?

  • Adam

    Again, I’m not saying the government’s innocent. I *am* saying that our source on all this is one news article, and the press is notorious for getting stuff wrong. (Sorry–how many people on this site have trusted the press in the last year?) I would like to know both sides of the story (or at least see a trial in which the plaintiff’s case is strong and the government makes a poor showing) before I can conclusively condemn several people.

    One oddity that bothers me in the news story is referring to Angelene Attila (look, it’s her name, ok? Be angry, but don’t make fun.) as a “prosecutor.” This strikes me as a civil case, not a criminal one (am I wrong?). The word “prosecutor” is typically reserved for a lawyer who works on criminal cases; otherwise, she’d be a “government representative” or “government lawyer” or somesuch. This may just be a poor word choice–the author may have assumed that all government counsel are “prosecutors.” Or maybe Florida actually uses that term for all government reps. Somebody clue me in if I’m misunderstanding.

  • Adam

    BTW, Rhinestone, I’ll clarify: I’m not saying that anybody is lying about the medication. I was throwing out a hypothetical about how facts, as presented, could later turn out to be wrong. I don’t know that anyone was lying. (I don’t, however, appreciate the “weasel” comment.)

    I *have* worked on the criminal prosecution side of the government. Believe it or not, it actually does happen where someone levels a charge against someone and then later backtracks on their story or is pretty much caught in a lie. For example, I’ve seen cases of women claim that a male friend raped them while their husband was deployed, and pretty good evidence later turns up that the woman and the alleged rapist were having an affair. The rape becomes a sufficient excuse to the cuckolded husband as to why it wasn’t adultery.

    Sorry, but as a lawyer, it’s my job to be skeptical and question everything. One of my first questions is always, “OK, what’s his side of the story?”

    Again, I maintain that if Florida is liable for the death, then the state and the officials involved should be held responsible. But I want both sides of the story.

  • Adam

    One more: here’s a classic story on how a litigant, a PR firm, and the media can spin a story to make a non-responsive government look like the world’s greatest villain. Remember the Kelly Flinn story from the 90s? http://ajr.org/Article.asp?id=2258 The Air Force pretty much got railroaded by the press on that one, and Flinn got off pretty light for some serious military misconduct.

    I will repeat: I do *NOT* have any evidence that Mrs. Freyre or the press are doing so here, nor am I leveling a charge that they are. That would be wrong. I *am* playing skeptic based on not having heard the State of Florida’s side of the story–which we probably won’t, until there’s either an internal investigation or a civil lawsuit.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    Jo Walton, you’re hysterical. Calm down, please. And stop blaming the Republicans for, well. . . everything. This story really isn’t about Republicans. Or Democrats. It’s about a massive bureaucratic foul-up, and a dead child.

    I don’t know what you’re really angry about, but I suspect it really isn’t me, or Republicans (even though yes, yes, they’re all evil masterminds; /Sarc.)

    As for what the UN actually does, I suggest you go to google, and look up “UN corruption”, “UN rape scandals, etc. I’m sorry, the UN is a corrupt organization; I wouldn’t trust them to take care of my cat, let alone my disabled son, or any other disabled child.

    Adam, again, here are the facts: when the child was in her mother’s house, she was doing well, given her condition. When she was taken away by the government, she was dead in just a few hours. Somebody, somewhere, made a horrible mistake. I don’t see what could possibly justify it (especially, the denial of the medicine.) However, if there is another side to this. . . maybe it’s time to actually tell it?

    (Honestly, I don’t know what anybody could say to make this sound better, or exonerate the people involved. At best, it sounds like good intentions gone seriously awry—and we all know what the road to you-know-where is paved with. I suspect they’re not talking because “their side of the story” isn’t really going to help them much.)

    Having worked in a legal office, I know lawyers use “Hypotheticals” to make points—or to change the subject—or to confuse the opposition. I also know they use anecdotes that don’t really have much of anything to do with the case, but kinda, sorta, sound relevant, and can plant doubts in a judge’s and/or a jury’s mind i.e., tales of married women accusing their lovers of rape; this is certainly bad, but I don’t see what such incidents have to do with this case here; because some women have lied about being raped, doesn’t really translate into “Somebody is lying about this, completely unrelated case.” Beause the news media is sometimes unreliable, doesn’t mean they’re always unreleiable.

    As for whether Ms. Attila is a “Prosecutor” or not, and whether this case would qualify as civil or criminal under Florida law—well, you’re a lawyer, and you’re the one who lives in Florida; you tell us! Again, whatever her title, if she was the one who worked to get this child taken out of her home, and sent to the nursing facility, then at least some of the responsibility for what happened does lie with her. (A mess of this magnitude usually involves more than one person, however.)

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    No, you don’t have any evidence that Mrs. Freyer, or the press, are lying here:

    You’re just hinting that they are, by using hypotheticals and anecdotes—and false analogies. (Because the Air Force got railroaded in the Flynn case, you’re hinting that the State of Florida is getting railroaded here.)

    And old lawyers’ saying: “When the facts are on your side, pound on the facts! When the law is on your side, pound on the law! When nothing’s on your side, pound on the table!”

    Hypotheticals, and skepticsm aren’t facts, and they aren’t really arguments.

    (If the State of Florida really is innocent, why not tell their side of it now? Why wait for a lawsuit?)

  • Adam

    “Somebody, somewhere, made a horrible mistake. I don’t see what could possibly justify it (especially, the denial of the medicine.) However, if there is another side to this. . . maybe it’s time to actually tell it?”

    That was my point.

    I would suggest reading some of my posts a little closer, though. I never said that I live in Florida. I live in Maryland. I said that I lived there briefly (for the record, from 2004-2006; I was never an attorney for the state).

    You’re getting a little angry at me for doing nothing more than asking questions. Please take a breath. I feel like, in your rush to condemn everyone involved after reading one article, you’d like to throw me in with the lot.

  • Adam

    …although on rereading your post, I do question how an attorney who works to get the child removed from the home is legally or morally responsible for a paramedic’s apparent screw-up. Again, IANA Florida lawyer, but I really doubt that any legal theory is going to hold her responsible unless Ms. Attilla was actually looking over the ambulance driver’s shoulder and telling them which medications they could and couldn’t administer.

    There may have been an unlawful or immoral removal of the child from the home, and there may have been a negligent failure to administer medicine, but those two events, if true, aren’t connected by a moral or legal thread unless Ms. Attila was giving direction in the ambulance.

  • Adam

    Elizabeth, I’d like to apologize if I’ve contributed to a flame war erupting on your blog. I’ll restate that my position was only to raise some skeptical questions based on the fact that only one side of the story has been presented. If I have given the impression of labeling the Freyre family as a pack of liars (which I don’t think I did), I apologize. I hope that you and your readership keeps all parties–the family and the state employees–in your prayers regardless.

  • Thomas R

    I don’t know that one needs to make this a partisan issue or if that even makes sense. Also I think in principle Adam has a bit of a point that there is a tendency to jump ahead of the actual facts and this is just one article. That said so far I’m not really seeing anything elsewhere on this story, in other sources, that makes the “other side” much more sympathetic. Placing kids in nursing homes, particularly in Florida, looks to have a pretty high rate of failure. So even if they “meant well” it certainly sounds like yeah it really was a big screw-up that lead to a tragic lonely death. If someone can find an alternative view, and there were plenty of alternative views on Zimmerman or Gates, I’d be willing to read it.

  • Peggy m

    Adam, for what it’s worth, I understand the points you are making and appreciate them. I think you are being reasonable.

  • Kate

    Adam is right. It’s a terrible and wrong thing to have happened, and I hope justice ultimately prevails, but wildly blaming everyone from the ambulance personnel on up is unjust in itself and is not going to help. Emotional reactions are beside the point.

    BTW, it sounds entirely reasonable to me that ambulance personnel are not allowed to administer medications. The fault, massive as it most likely is, surely lies at some other level. I suspect–I don’t know, but I suspect–that the hospital’s insistence on getting the child out in a hurry, without proper planning for transport, was much more immediately to blame.

  • http://www.diddly.wordpress.com Wim Chase

    Family caretakers develop so much nuanced and very detailed knowledge of how to care for their loved ones that many so called ‘experts’ simply aren’t qualified to recognize as essential. Unrealistic expectations by ‘experts’ that couldn’t even be met by professionals in a top institution blinds them even more to the treasures that these caretakers are. Usually when there are failures with this kinds of cases it is because the ‘experts’ WON’T LISTEN to the caretaker. The caretaker gets tired of repeating herself after awhile, not to mention gets angry, and the relationship breaks down even more. Some respect from the beginning would go a long way.

  • daisy

    How do we know the child would not have died at home with her mother? All we have is the mother’s word and people are ignoring the nurses who expressed concern about what was going on in the home.


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