US high school student threatened with death for opposing school prayer

US high school student threatened with death for opposing school prayer May 30, 2011

NORTH LOUISIANA has been described as “the buckle on the Bible Belt” – and not without good reason, as high school student Damon Fowler at Bastrop High School has discovered to his cost.

Damon Fowler: demonised, ostracized and threatened with death
On the eve of his graduation, the atheist student contacted the school superintendent to let him know that he opposed the inclusion of a prayer at the graduation ceremony. He pointed out that government-sponsored prayer in the public schools was unconstitutional and legally forbidden – and that he would be contacting the ACLU if it went ahead. The school agreed to substitute it with a moment of silent reflection, which was subsequently scuppered by a Christian student.
Then Fowler’s name, and his role in this incident, was leaked. As a direct result:
1) Fowler has been hounded, pilloried, and ostracized by his community.
2) One of Fowler’s teachers has publicly demeaned him.
3) Fowler has been physically threatened. Students have threatened to “jump him” at graduation practice, and he has received multiple threats of bodily harm, and even death threats.
4) Fowler’s parents cut off his financial support, kicked him out of the house, and threw his belongings onto the front porch.
Oh, and the school went ahead and had the graduation prayer anyway.
According to this report, Fowler has become the center of what he terms a “shitstorm”: he has been harassed, vilified, targeted with insults and name-calling and hateful remarks. He’s been told t he’s the devil. He’s been told, “Go cry to your mommy… oh, wait. You can’t”. (A reference to him being disowned by his parents.) He’s been told that he’s only doing this to get attention. A student’s public prayer at a pre-graduation “Class Night” event was turned into an opportunity for the school and community to gang up on Fowler and publicly close ranks against him – teachers as well as students. (Here’s video). And people seen defending him have been targeted as well.
Here are a few comments on the Bastrop Enterprise news story about the controversy:

I personally see him as a coward.
I hope they [Christians] put enough pressure on this kid to convert him and save his soul from the fire of hell.
If he don’t want prayer at graduation he can stay at home and not come to graduation.
I hope that the little athiest (sic) is offended.
What he is really doing is trying to shove his views down people’s throats.
Satan continues to prowl and is deceiving many in this world.

A piece published yesterday by PoliticusUSA points out that Christian fundamentalists have persecuted atheists and agnostics for the past 30 years with accusations that non-believers are aggressive and are “throwing atheism in our faces,” when the opposite is true.

There is a dangerous trend of Christian fundamentalists taking over the government to change the nature of America. It may be in part because in America, like the rest of the world, Christianity is on the decline and the number of Americans claiming to be Atheists, Agnostic, or non-religious has increased by 15 percent leading to an alarming trend of fundamentalists making a last-ditch effort to force Christianity on the country.
The young man who protested prayers at school events is not an isolated case, and around the country young people are standing up to school officials and fundamentalists who “force their religion down the throats” of non-believers regardless of age or station in life. The Constitution does not forbid religious fundamentalists from praying whenever and wherever they please, but it does maintain the separation of the government and religion and it means no public school prayer.

The article concluded:

Evangelical Christian leaders recently conceded in an interview that there were Christians around the country who were prepared for armed conflict to enforce Christianity if necessary, and they claimed the military and Congress had been infiltrated by fundamentalists; it is a foreboding that should frighten every person in America. If any American thinks they are safe from fundamentalist Christians whose intent is replacing the Constitution with the Ten Commandments and its Stone Age punishment (stoning), they are deluded and do not comprehend the level of violence extremists are capable of inflicting in god’s name.
If in America in 2011, one student faces public threats without a theocratic government or the Ten Commandments as the law of the land, imagine the violent Crusade and Inquisition a group of well-armed, angry fundamentalists will unleash if given authority and power.
Last month, an interviewer asked four evangelical church leaders if their intent of using violence to force Christianity on Americans was tantamount to the Taliban in Afghanistan. They replied that, ‘yes, they were the same as the Taliban except they were better armed, better organized, and had the full support of conservatives in positions of power’.
Still think fundamentalist Christians are harmless? You should be mortified.

Update: The Friendly Atheist Hermant Mehta set up a ChipIn widget which enables people to  contribute toward a scholarship for Damon  —” just one way to show how much we appreciate him standing up for church/state separation”.
So far an amazing amount of almost $27,000 has been raised. You can make a donation here. I will certainly be doing so!
Further update: The Friendly Atheist has an interview with Damon and his brother Jerrett  here.

 

"You are the very definition of doublethink. You are a white SJW twit showcasing a ..."

Exorcist plans counter-attack against witches cursing ..."
"Bigot? Vodou and Palo Mayombe are African religions. Fuck you are a retard...like weapon's grade ..."

Exorcist plans counter-attack against witches cursing ..."
"That only works if his "relationship with Christ" is better than his relationships with his ..."

Exorcist plans counter-attack against witches cursing ..."
"Why do these christian wedding vendors seem to feel that a job offer is the ..."

Lights, camera, inaction! Christian bigots won’t ..."

Browse Our Archives

Follow Us!


TRENDING AT PATHEOS Nonreligious
What Are Your Thoughts?leave a comment
  • Broga

    Not too much of the gentle Jesus meek and mild and turning the other cheek, then? Hypocrites and vicious with it. So what else is new?

  • Stuart H.

    Yes Broga, more like
    ‘Gentle Jesus, meek and mild,
    beats up on another child’

  • AngieRS

    I think the news is, Broga, that they’re openly talking about it now and I think some of them over here are looking at America for their lead. We can be very thankful that our gun laws are far stricter than theirs.

  • The Woggler

    “Still think fundamentalist Christians are harmless?” Now that would be a crazy notion.

  • remigius

    Mmmm. Armed and stoopid. A very dangerous combination.

  • Stonyground

    “…imagine the violent Crusade and Inquisition a group of well-armed, angry fundamentalists will unleash if given authority and power.”
    We don’t have to imagine it, Christians have been in positions of power many times in the past. The results are always unpleasant.

  • Angela_K

    Brave man, I wish more rational thinking people would make a stand like he has done.
    Feel that xtain love eh?

  • Milz

    o my goodness! what horrible shitty people.
    I was going to say how “unchristian” but the more I see of these people the more I think that nice, tolerant individuals are the exception, not the rule.
    Poor guy! Come live with us in the UK, we’ll look out for you!

  • My unsolicited advice to this young man, based on my own experience: leave the South. Try a larger city in the North or the West. Best of luck to you.

  • Graham Martin-Royle

    It’s funny how 2 of the abrahamic religions try to portray themselves as the opposite of what they are.
    The religion of peace is always at war.
    The religion of love spews hatred.

  • remigius

    Graham. That’s what makes religion so wonderfully fucked-up. Everything they say or do in their weird world is the exact opposite of the real world. If they say something is true, it isn’t. If they say something is good, it’s evil. If they say something really, really happened you can bet your arse it really, really didn’t. Crazy!

  • Lurker111

    “Everything they say or do in their weird world is the exact opposite of the real world. If they say something is true, it isn’t. If they say something is good, it’s evil. If they say something really, really happened you can bet your arse it really, really didn’t.”
    +100

  • Robb

    I agree to the premise of this article but everyone needs to heed and beware of the conclusion!
    Why? Because there is no name taking responsibility for it. Reading someone’s opinion is one thing but give it without without using random and vague references like this-
    “Evangelical Christian leaders recently conceded in an interview”
    And
    “an interviewer asked four evangelical church leaders, “
    That is just he said she said BS! It could be true but without references it will have no credibility with me! And anyone that gives some unidentifiable writer that makes pushes this type of of stuff as fact without any backup, then becomes as much an extremist and radicalist that this article portrays. Be careful please!

  • Mark

    Religion poisons everything.

  • Josh

    Damn… That makes me so angry I want to do something. I wonder what would happen if I came out (as an atheist) here in Riverhead, Harbour Grace… I’m surrounded by catholics. Of course, all they’d do is slander me, I wouldn’t get death threats, to my knowledge. Then again, I get slandered all the time.

  • Lucy

    That poor brave young man. I hate these kind of stories because you never get to hear what happened next.

  • I am sure these religidiots would look at you aghast if they were reminded that what they were doing was the hebrew version of Jihad.
    It seems to me that Damon Fowler is the only one true American in this fucked up community.
    What would Jesus say to it at?

  • Thoreau

    Let’s hope he spends some time Googling himself and stumbles on this website.
    If you read this Damon, you have balls the size of watermelons.

  • unbound

    “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
    Mohandas Gandhi

  • mike

    if the government thought the separation of church and state was a big deal, then every single one of our dollar bills wouldn’t say, ‘in god we trust’ it’s disgusting how religion still has a big effect on our country.

  • What else should we expect? The religious reich has always cried, “Persecution!” while shamelessly persecuting anyone that dares disagree with their sick, evil beliefs in the slightest.
    They disregard the law, common sense and human decency in their constant drive to force their theology upon everyone. It isn’t enough that they have a free ride on taxes and behaving like they claim they are, they have to try to grind any dissent into the dirt.
    Free speech is only for them, everyone else is told to STFU. Then they evade direct questions with their traditional deny, delay, and distract tactics.
    It’s no surprise to me that a religion founded upon lies and has continued to lie attracts liars and the dregs of the human race.

  • Stonyground

    @ remigius
    Your point about opposites is made by the way these people see some one preventing them from shoving their beliefs in every one elses face. He was accused of shoving his atheist beliefs in their faces when all he had done was point out that it is illegal for them to do it to him.
    It seems to me that there is a lot of insecurity driving this anger. I think that as they continue to lose all the arguments, this kind of behaviour is all that they have left. Even in the US, atheism is spreading and Christianity is on the slide.

  • Jeff

    Note to self: stay the fuck away from Louisiana.
    Note to Damon: Go forth in your courage, brother. The rational mind, in today’s world, (esp in the U.S.A.) is a rare and wonderful thing.

  • Chance

    Opposing religion in the south is a death sentence. They think they are better than everyone els.

  • Does anyone know if he has a Facebook page for us to send our support and berate his loony critics?

  • Seems I was a bit slow on the offering support front. Have you seen this?
    http://friendlyatheist.com/2011/05/20/you-all-amaze-me/
    Over at Friendly Atheist, a donation widget was set up to support Damon and help him with a scholarship, today over $26,000 has been raised. However, we only have two more days in which to contribute.
    Way to go Yanks with common sense.

  • Nothing ironic about that .. not in the least.

  • remigius

    Dave Gilbert. I shall be making a donation first thing tomorrow morning.
    What totally staggers me is the reaction of his parents. What the hell must it have been like growing up in that envirinment. He deserves an award for keeping his sanity in the face of overwhelming christianity.

  • JohnMWhite

    I don’t know what’s more screwed up, the horrendously aggressive response that is totally bereft of self-awareness of a crashing hypocrisy that can be seen from space… or the fact that his parents are pretty poor Christians because they went easy on him and did not stone their son to death.

  • Dom G

    I hope that one day all of these christians will start to act like christ, he would have loved this kid.

  • Graham at 2:20 pm
    It’s funny how 2 of the abrahamic religions try to portray themselves as the opposite of what they are.
    The religion of peace is always at war.
    The religion of love spews hatred.

    The original abrahamic religion currently spews atheists and comedy.

  • barriejohn

    Oh dear. Another “militant atheist” shoving his views down people’s throats.
    (These morons don’t do irony, do they?)

  • Pingback: Christian fundamentalists are different from radical Muslims how? « Honjii's Harangues()

  • Johnny

    I think the worst part is his parents and how they threw him out because of this. Awful people showing there true colors in the fact they obviously never loved there son. Religion is vile.

  • Michael DeRousselle

    I have some ignorant hick relative around there. They love their confederate flags.

  • Joseph Morton

    Legal or not when you go against the wishes of the masses your going to get a ‘shit storm’. While this kid is entitled to his own beliefs, it was incredibly stupid of him to try a ruin what everyone else wanted and quite frankly he deserves what ever he gets. And no, I’m not a Jesus freak (or an atheist, which is just as bad – both groups thinking they know something they don’t), I’m agnostic.

  • Emmy

    How can I support this kid for being so brave? What can decent people do to show this guy that they believe he was right?

  • barriejohn
  • barriejohn
  • asquith

    You are a twat, Joseph Morton.

  • David Anderson

    asquith;
    Seconded.

  • Stonyground

    Don’t just call Joseph Morton a twat, explain to him why he is a twat.
    JM, Just because the majority believe something does not make it right or true. Those who founded America knew all about religious bullying. Most had crossed the Atlantic in ships that were barely seaworthy in order to escape such bullying. As soon as they got themselves established in the New World, they began bullying minorities all over again. In order to solve this problem the Founding Fathers drew up a constitution that treated everyone the same no matter what their religion or lack of religion. This was a really good idea. The only people who have a problem with this are those who enjoy bullying minorities. Damon Fowler had the balls to stand up to these bullies and they instantly displayed their true contemptible colours.
    If you think that Fowler is the bad guy, then you are a twat.

  • Anna Haston

    I cordially invite Damon to attend Oberlin College in Oberlin, OH. I think it would be a great fit for him.
    If nothing else, try attending Tulane or Loyola. Tulane would be the better choice out of those two. Oberlin is the best choice, though :).

  • Broga

    There is a pattern in the response to Damon Fowler: if you make a comment about which we disagree regarding our religion we will shut you up. A civilised community, and not a bunch of rabid and feral bigots, would say, “Why do you say this? What are your reasons? Then we will explain why we disagree.”
    The fact that they do not do that is the result of ignorance and fear. The fear may be intellectual but it is still fear. They cannot expose their brains to challenge, to facts, to contrary opinion. They have no answers. They must stay within their bubble of superstition. They avoid the painful activity of thinking by listening to their pastors who tell them what to think.
    The response is so over the top, so extreme, so devoid of decency or common humanity that it smacks of panic. We must shut this guy up. He might start to make us, or our children, think. And that we cannot allow.

  • HaiyGuize

    Joseph Morton, you need to understand something — atheists do not claim to “KNOW” there is no god. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but, by definition, if you lack a belief in a god, you are an atheist. You can call yourself an agnostic atheist — which is simply someone who lacks a belief in a god but doesn’t claim to know that there isn’t one — or a gnostic atheist — someone who lacks a belief in a god and DOES claim to know there isn’t one.
    I suppose, also, that the people who fought for civil rights “deserved whatever they got”, since, you know, they were going against the wishes of the masses, thus stirring up a “shit storm”? Yeah. It doesn’t work like that.

  • barriejohn

    Joseph Morton: How do you know that “everyone else wanted” those prayers? Maybe others didn’t have the balls to object, and as the guy in that video that I posted says, would the Christians in the school be quite happy about Sikhs, Hindus, and, heaven forbid, Muslims, having public prayers? I think not! In any case, such action is illegal, and that’s that.

  • Anon y mous

    I may be a Muslim, but I really feel bad for him. I would feel awkward if there was Christian prayer at my graduation, but honestly I would not mind it. I am disgusted that those Christians claim that he is shoving his beliefs, when they are forcing him to convert via peer pressure. I hope he finds more understanding people.

  • matt

    religion should be removed from schools altogether, these learning establishment are a place of fact, not fiction

  • Big Pat

    Damn little kids like this piss me right off.. He cant even deal with saying a 10 second prayer in the morning… lol I cant wait to see how he reacts to real problems in life. This kid is what I would like to call a “cracker ass” its kids like this that complain about everything all the time. Its really sad that people give in when all he probably needs is a good ass whooppin . PARENTS WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO PUNISHING YOUR CHILDREN FOR BEING STUPID PRICKS?! This type of kid is the soul reason america has no hope in the future. We cant get over a school prayer when world population is reaching is max.. the governments all around the world become more corrupt, and america has lost almost all of its economic power. Lets compair… this little fag cant even say a 10 second prayer that is more about just bringin the student body together in a positive mind set than trying to conform these children into believing in god. So this is more of a positive than a negative. ANd this kid opposes it because it offends him??? he really cant just sit there and not say anything?> he has to bitch and moan until the rest of the students were like really guy school is bad enough now we have to hear this fuck complain about this stupid shit?? this kid needs a beating in my opinion// he needs to learn that reality isnt pretty and there are alot of things in this world that he isnt going to like.. and cant do anything about. technical definition for these type of kids __cracker asses— these kids and people like this make america look bad, the rest of the world laughs at little bitches like this… and in third world countries these type of people dont make it to 25… darwinism… this kids at the bottom either way lmao

  • JohnMWhite

    RE: Joseph Moron (yes I’m clever, aren’t I? Ok, perhaps not, but that pathetic insult is more brainpower than this gent has put into his argument) –
    First of all you betray yourself as being, if not a Jesus freak (and you wouldn’t be the first to be lying for Jesus), far from any sort of free thinker by not actually knowing what an atheist is and constructing a very worn out straw man instead. Second, Mr. Fowler did not ‘ruin’ anything. The students are perfectly free to pray privately at the ceremony or anywhere else, it is simply illegal for the school to lead them in those prayers. Should the police be subject to harassment, threats of violence and thrown out of their homes because they ‘ruin’ people’s enjoyment of pot? And as barriejohn suggested, in an environment such as this, how could you possibly know what the majority want if conformity is so strictly enforced and the price for saying anything different so high?
    Basically you are blaming the victim of bullying for being bullied by virtue of their existence as a minority. You might think yourself open-minded, but to wilfully go along with the concept that the will of the majority is the most important thing is as close-minded as you can get.

  • Fe

    This is why I left Texas at 19 and very rarely go back. I have been disowned by my family as well. I will raise my daughters to love, respect and care. I refuse to brainwash them as it was done to me.

  • remigius

    @Joseph Morton. Many thanks for sharing your profound ignorance with us, it is much appreciated. I’m sure you are not alone in thinking that Damon deserves to be ostracized, both by his parents, and by the community, for questioning the legality of something which is in fact illegal. No doubt the death threats are justified too.
    I would not have done what Damon did. I would not have pointed out the fact that such a prayer is both unconstitutional and a breach of both federal and state laws. Oh no. I would have pointed out the very obvious fact that talking to an imaginary wizard and his zombie offspring during a graduation ceremomy is just fucking stupid!

  • remigius

    I love it when the fuckwits pay us a visit.

  • David Anderson

    Stonyground:
    You are right, of course, but JM’s comment was so incredibly stupid I could not find the will to engage. For me his comment about atheists exposed him as a godbot.

  • Joseph Morton, although attributed to Voltaire, it was Ewelyn Beatrice Hall who said, “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it?”
    We Freethinkers not only agree with what he said, we also defend to the death Damon’s right to do and say what he did. I believe its called free speech and it’s very popular around these parts.
    If you are indeed an agnostic as you claim, I hope, while you are sat on the fence, you get a huge splinter up your arse!

  • Barry Duke

    We don’t offer prizes for Stupid of the Week, but if we did, Big Pat, you’d be the clear winner. Congratulations, moron!

  • John Smith

    So happy to see strangers raising money for this Damon Fowler kid. Why is every so shocked? We are talking about Louisiana here people. The deep south. A place time and progression has left behind. A place where state certified biology teachers are “forced” to teach evolution instead of creationism. I have a lot of family down in Arkansas, which isn’t quite as bad as deep Louisiana, but still, its similar. Southern people, in my experiences are some of he most welcoming and heart-warming people…….if you are white and some denomination of Christianity.
    Damon should chin up, tell everyone to F off, take his money, get some loans, and go to USC or Arizona State Univ……… get the fuck out of there man.
    Edit- Just noticed that this is UK website. Please, do not think that America is all like this. Only in like 4 or 5 states across the deep south is shit like this. I live in Michigan, Northern Mid-West…….. people here don’t give a fuck about religion, the way it should be.

  • Big Pat, you sound like a tea bagger to me. If only because you can’t string a sensible sentence together.

  • mike

    I find it hilarious that the religious retards, yes anyone who believes in a creator is a retard and only someone deemed retarded should find offense there for being considered as retarded as them, seem to think it’s their duty to “convert” this young man. Yet THEIR ENTIRE VIEW IS BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE THAT EVERYTHING IS PART OF GOD’S PLAN. Wouldn’t that mean that in your twisted view that he is doing as god told him? You people are idiots, you only believe any of that crap if it benefits you, as soon as it doesn’t then what? You cry and make other crap up that fits your specific view. How bout the fact that the bible has been changed and edited multiple times by kings and pope’s?
    Fuck your god, he’s a piece of shit.

  • Small Tony

    @ Big Pat – Attention : You sound stupid as FUCK. Keep posting your ‘ideas’ online, you will fail in reality.

  • Mark

    The problem with all organized religion is that their believers actually believe they have a special relationship with a magical deity not of this earth or it’s rules of nature. This gives them the right to forsake any laws of any country or state as the deity belief over rules all civilized law. They believe that any earthly act no matter how wrong will be forgiven if all they do is ask and prey…including murder.
    I believe that this young man’s safety may be an issue here as well…
    Teaching young people that they will be forgiven for whatever they do if all they do is prey is bad science, and a worst social skill.
    This religious hatred is similar to hating someone who likes and believes in a different sports team as you…and it does happen. So what this proves is that the human species is fundamentally wired to hate another and weather it may be following a sports team or religious group, they are both organizations that draw peoples of similar emotions to justify their embedded hate for others and looking for a reason why.
    The lyrics of John Lennon’s Imagine have never rang so true as they do now.

  • Anonymous

    John Smith, if you think the deep south is the only part of the US having this problem, you haven’t been paying close enough attention. Didn’t you have a problem in Michigan with a right wing Christian militia, for example?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/us/30militia.html
    Or how ’bout a scholgirl’s battle for secularism in Rhode Island, in liberal New England?
    http://friendlyatheist.com/2011/04/05/high-school-atheist-files-lawsuit-against-god-banner-loving-city/

  • Timbe

    I feel for the kid, it takes guts to stick to your guns on something like that in a place where you could easily get killed for it. And I’m glad that people are helping him after being kicked out, it shows the love and compassion he’d likely never get from (most) Christians. 😛
    Joseph Morton’s comment made me immediately think of this: http://xkcd.com/774/ And apparently Big Pat is an authority in the field if “technically” this kid is a “cracker ass.” (Which…what the hell is that, even?) Everyone should be allowed to have their say, but they could at least say it nicely. Props to the people who are attempting to debate these sorts of things without going nuts.

  • John

    After reading the article, the only threatening verified was the student threatening the school system..

  • Jees, things are good in the “land of the free”. Just conform to what we say, behave the way we do and don’t stray, or else. All of a sudden North Korea sounds attractive…

  • Gregor

    This is true Mark. But not all Christians are this way. These people in North Louisiana who demonize others for thinking differently, are not much different than anyone else really. Just look at the Democrats and Republicans alike who treat their political party much the same as a religion. These types actually HATE each other like no other and treat each other much the same. Look at radical muslims or Islamists that also act the same way. Look at some of the posting going on here in this thread and the vicious name-calling that goes on. By the way, you that have used the vulgar language and cruel name-calling here, are no better than the persons you persecute.
    Signed
    an atheist

  • Danno

    @Big Pat – someone is trolling hard this evening.

  • Clockwork Orange

    Wow, and he gets this from objecting to something that’s illegal…and the school went ahead with it anyway.
    IMHO the entire school should be shut down until everyone responsible for this travesty is taken to court and shown some real justice.
    Is there nobody to charge this school for breaking the law?
    At least get some of these people fired?
    Is this not a criminal case?
    Where is the law in this?
    Is the press ignoring this?
    It is so sad that some people use religion as a crutch because they cant actually deal with real life. It’s really just mass insanity isn’t it?

  • tony e

    @Big Pat,
    I can only assume that your ‘nom de plume’ is not a reference to your brain?
    This kid has been disowned by his family for expresssing his beliefs. I think that says more about the evil of religion than I ever could.
    I bet it galls you to know that this kid has shown more courage in his short years than a sheep like you would in ten lifetimes. As for your point ‘these kids and people like this make america look bad’. Actually they don’t, you do.

  • AgentCormac

    Big Pat
    You claim that “…these kids and people like this make america look bad.”
    Actually, you gormless retard, you’ve done far more to make Americans look ridiculous in a single post than a million Damon Fowlers could do in a lifetime.

  • Stuart H.

    Big Pat – you’re deaf as well as dumb.
    When your mum scolded you for stamping your feet and sulking yesterday, she actually said ‘Oh no, he’s having a little paddy’.

  • remigius

    @Big Pat. I had a go at decoding that word salad you tossed on this thread earlier. Am I right in thinking you’re still upset/embarassed about last weeks rapture so your looking for a little kid to beat up?
    …and here’s a handy tip for posting on blogs. After you have written your comment take a moment to read through it. Check for spelling, punctuation, grammar and clarity. Then press delete.

  • Oakmeyer

    I love how religious nuts always claim religion doesn’t harm anyone. After being diagnosed with juvenile diabetes, my parents took me to Benny Hinn’s church to be “healed”. Being very young and vulnerable, I accepted the great news that I was “healed” and promptly stopped taking my insulin, and came VERY close to dying. It truly makes me wonder how many people have actually expired because of this type of crime. Only in America can you kill someone in the name of religion and still remain “holy”. I wonder how much Benny Hinn loses in hush money on an annual basis…

  • The video shows just who the school supports and the mob mentality that the promote. That doesnt just go for religion but other issues as well.

  • Broga

    It is rare, even when hearing from religious nutters, to come across anyone as frothing at the mouth stupid as Big Pat. This clown is special in that he is clearly demented and also seems to be a child beater. Which would fit with his bully boy comments. I bet he just loves knocking his own kids about, assuming he has managed to persuade any woman, to breed with him.
    Big Pat, you need help and I am talking psychiatry here. You are seriously disturbed. I suppose in the Bible Bible this passes for normal and you don’t realise how crazy you are. See a psychiatrist Big Pat. You are in serious mental trouble.

  • AgentCormac

    Broga
    Your observations take on an even more disturbing aspect when you think we might actually be dealing with Big Patricia.

  • Pingback: Skimfast – 31/05/11 « Cubik's Rube()

  • Broga

    @AgentCormac: Big Patricia? Oh no! Tell me it ain’t so. I wonder if he/she will return here. Probably not. These religious fundies tend to be ignorant and stupid and rely on their views and guidance coming from pastors who are marginally less ignorant and stupid than themselves. They also have the thug group mentality of bullies. Great when they are beating up, and howling together, a lone individual. When they are on the receiving end, as they are here, they fold.
    Big Pat, just in case you do return, listen up: (1) there is no God as you imagine him; (2) the bible is a book concocted to suit ancient desert tribes and is full of the cruelties, contradictions and absurdities of that time; (3) much of what you imagine as revelation is nothing but the adaptations of pagan myths that preceded your holy book.

  • MaryMomentum

    @Big Pat -YOU are what makes America look bad to the rest of the world. Later tonight, while you’re wiping off that Insane Clown Posse makeup and looking in the mirror, I hope you cry.
    I hope you have the human decency to realize that spouting off a run-on sentence padded with expletives and nonsensical nicknames you’ve invented (cracker-ass? really?) I hope you realize that you have failed at life. Maybe then you can stop reflecting your own sense of complete worthlessness on people who try to change things that NEED TO BE CHANGED.
    Honestly, arguing that Damon should just sit there and not say anything during a “10 second prayer” (obviously you’ve never graduated from anything in your life) is the most cowardly bullshit I’ve ever heard.
    Those idiots who assisted German Jews and Southern American Slaves should also have just sat there quietly, eh? When the conservative Christian army breaks down your door and burns you at the stake for wearing your mom’s undergarments, you’ll be rethinking this post.

  • barriejohn
  • JClark

    I’ve kept up with this story from the beginning, and actually don’t live too far from where he was. I’m just across the border in Texas. But, just FYI for those that are interested, Damon left right after graduation and moved to Texas where his brother and sister live. Also, if you want to keep up with what’s happening to him and his case, look him up on Facebook *Damon Fowler* and friend him. They’ve been great about updating what’s happening with the ACLU, etc.

  • Greg

    Time for that school to get the shit sued out of them.

  • @remigius, Now that’s just wrong…
    …before pressing delete he’s gotta highlight it first. 😛

  • anti_supernaturallist

    so-called great monotheisms
    Madness is rare in individuals – but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule. Nietzsche. Beyond Good and Evil ∫156.
    the anti_supernaturalist

  • Bob Mcferlin

    Not to say that this reaction was called for, but he was forcing his views down people throats who didn’t want them. Which is, the root cause of the problem with religion after all.

  • Niklas Schier

    I think whatthese folks did to this guy is terrible particularly his parents.
    However in the first instance he showed a great deal of intolerance.
    In scotlan where I live its the other way round Christians are the ones that are persicuted and its the athiests and Muslim community that are the ones that are pushing their beliefs down others throats in Schools and colleges.
    I had to leave my hometown of Glasgow Scotland because of the persicution my kids where exposed to as where the Jewish kids in their school.
    The moral here is if it looks like a fundamentalist wether athiest,Muslim or Christian and talks like a fundamentalist its probably a little Nazi style facist.
    It goes both ways if Athiests and Muslims persicute and are intolerant to others then they cant really whine when they get the same treatment right back at them can they?
    Athiest particularly of the socialist Variety in the UK are the worst kind of Knuckle dragging intolerants and are constantly trying to shove their beliefs down kids throats at every oppertunity.

  • Chelsey

    The ONLY thing this kid wanted was to not say a prayer at his graduation. He didn’t try and shoot any one, he didn’t even ask publicly for them not to say it. I hope he sues the SHIT out of the school, and the girl who had the audacity to give the prayer any way. And me being the ATHEIST that I am, I’m proud of him, and I hope to the all mighty satin that I worship, that he gets away from all the people at in his stupid town, and never looks back. And for all those christians who hated him for what he is, I hope you “burn in hell” right along with him. Because even YOUR christian God said to LOVE EVERY ONE. And they’re being a completely hypocritle to what THEY believe in, and for their sakes, I hope their God forgives them, and lets them into their precious little heaven.

  • Pingback: High School Student Damon Fowler Disowned After Upholding Separation of Church and State | Insanity is Just a State of Mind()

  • remigius

    @Wrath of the Emma. You are, of course, very right. I just assumed a simpleton such as Big Pat would put his finger on del and keep it there, all the while staring at his screen in dumb fascination, wondering why the little stick pacman thingy was eating his carefully crafted homage to fuckwittery.

  • barriejohn

    I can’t believe some of the comments here!

  • remigius

    Wow. This is like some halfwit Hydra. You cut one head off and two more empty ones take its place.
    @Bob Mcferlin. How does asking not to have other peoples views shoved down his throat constitute shoving his views down other peoples throats?
    @Niklas Schier. Idiot. Standing up to intolerance does not make him intolerant. Atheists are not persecuting christians in Scotland, or anywhere else. There is persecution of christians in Glasgow but it is sectarian – catholic fuckwits picking on protestant fuckwits and vice versa.
    And as for your claim that atheists are knuckle dragging intolerants constantly trying to shove their beliefs down childrens throats…WTF. You is seriously deluded mate!

  • Graham Martin-Royle

    I always thought that the right wing were the party of laura norder so why are they so upset when someone tries to get the law upheld?

  • Jim

    Silly christian bastards… I hope they burn in hell.

  • AgentCormac

    Niklas Schier
    Your contention is almost as laughable as your spelling and grammar. How, exactly, do you think that atheism is being shoved down anyone’s throat in Scottish schools?
    I suspect that like most religiots, the slightest questioning of your blindly held beliefs has got you howling foul play and will, no doubt, shortly have the smell of burning, persecuted martyr wafting across the highlands.
    As for uprooting your kids and moving them away from their home just to satisfy your own religious sensitivities, I’d say you have hardly put their interests first, have you.

  • David

    I may be a christian myself but this sickens me. No religion should shove their veiws down peoples throats, and although atheism shouldn’t either this kid obviously was not. The seperation of church and state is extremely important.

  • MAYHEM

    He had the choice to not attend, he does not have the choice to make everyone conform to his point of view. That’s just insanity to think the majority that do want a program a certain way, are going to let 1 person change all their plans for what reason? That’s not even right in any civilized persons mind. look past your nose and stop making things into a bigger deal than they are. That kind of attitude of 1 person going to make everyone see things their way , who was that Hitler ? We know what happened there …………

  • omni

    the religion is stupid say no killing an make crusades, love each othes as you love “god”, an suppurt genocide of indians in us an in america(america the continent yes colombia is in america and a lot of more contrys) and they can say ok sorry and everibody belibe it stupid exagerated religius

  • JohnMWhite

    RE: Niklas Schier –
    As someone from Scotland, which I presume is some kind of province of ‘scotlan’, I can assure everyone that Christians are far from persecuted. Whatever you are talking about seems pretty flimsy given you are offering no evidence or even examples of this intolerance and persecution faced by Christians and Jews in the playground. Muslims and atheists ganging up on you? Come on. I have a horrible feeling that you vaguely heard ‘sectarian violence’ buzzing in the background and figured that it’s targeted at you, unable to comprehend that, as they have for 500 years, the various Christian denominations are showing their loving nature by sending bombs in the post and singing songs about battles centuries past. That has nothing to do with atheists trying to encourage a secular political climate, though I presume not being allowed to ride roughshod over the rights of any minority you like (and that pesky majority known as ‘women’) is persecution to you.
    And apparently it is only these ‘socialist atheists’ who are capable of using those dragged knuckles of theirs to type correctly. Though I would like to point out that Catholics vote en masse for the Labour party and atheists hardly make up a large voting bloc. You think the SNP swept to power against the wishes of all the Christians in Scotland?
    Not to mention – you say ‘socialist’ like it’s a bad thing. And Scotland has plenty of religious schools which literally do ram faith down people’s throats, along with other things if they think the bishop will let them get away with it. Everything you are complaining about is absurd.

  • Natasha

    Here is my issue with this article is the notation of “fundamentalist Christians,” they are not fundamentalists!
    These are normal day to day Christian, however mob mentality took over. What you have here are the normal alcoholics/clubbing/hypocritical/women abusing/child negligent… on Saturday and tithing on Sunday.
    This is Christianity in a mob way. Go to any largely Christian populated city and the same exact thing would have happened. This isnt the WBC or some fringe group.

  • EatTheRich

    There’s an empirical explanation for everything. A belief in a non-existent being is a virus of the mind. It takes over the host and destroys it whilst attempting to spread to other minds.
    All theists should, therefore, be culled. For the good of us all. We can call it rapture if it’ll make you feel any better.

  • CSParis

    Sometimes I get funny looks when I tell people that even though I am an atheist and support equal rights for all (including the GLBT etc Community), I also treasure and take advantage of my second amendment rights. Now maybe they will understand that it is because I fear the possibility of an eventual attempt at a martially-enforced theocracy, and I intend to do my part to defend America against one of its most threatening internal enemies: religion.5

  • tim

    ide gladly fight in that war, fuck christianity

  • tim

    http://www.facebook.com/bhscounselors?sk=wall
    also if anyone wants to post their opinions directly to the school
    they can be posted here 🙂

  • remigius

    @MAYHEM
    I invoke Godwin’s Law.
    (That means you loose, dickhead)

  • Lynne

    Look, I don’t agree with the way this town is reacting to the boy’s complaint, and how his parents reacted is especially appalling. But no one was forcing him to say a prayer, or do anything against his wishes or beliefs. Another student wanted to say a prayer at the graduation ceremony; something that probably would have taken all of five to ten minutes at most. He can’t just stand there silently, as he would be doing throughout the ceremony anyway? Was anyone forcing him to join in on the prayer? Is this such a huge violation of his rights? I think what the town is more annoyed with is his behavior, pettiness, and sense of entitlement. No one WAS trampling on his rights. Atheists have a valid argument when it comes to our education being effected because of certain criteria limiting the curriculum. But I have to disagree with them when it comes to complaining about a few second prayer at the beginning of the day, or a student saying a prayer at a ceremony, especially when it is obvious that the majority of the school is Christian. In this case, if anyone is infringing on the rights of another, it is the Atheist making a complaint against the prayer. I’m sorry, but with all technicalities aside, it is true. You are in the minority, and people are allowed to practice their religion. I would say the same thing if the authorities at the school banned a book he wanted to read, or told him he was not allowed to include his own speech at the ceremony (barring anything unreasonable of course). I do not agree with the hostility or the death threat, and I am shocked with what his parents have done, but come on– he did more than just make a passing comment. In all reality he brought this upon himself.

  • Meg

    Hi everyone, I am a Christian and I believe that this boy had EVERY right to do what he did. This is America, where opinions should be able to be given without the fear of threats. The kind of reaction that the school, community and Damon’s parents had were horribly uncalled for and were not reflective of God’s love, or of the intrinsic characteristics of our country. I hope that Damon continues expressing his views, because without honesty and real discussion between peoples of different views, how can we expect to grow and learn? Furthermore, that awful reaction does nothing for the reputation of Christians or for Christ; it turns people off. Damon did not shove his views down anyone’s throat – he expressed himself! Yes, I disagree with Damon’s views, but he has every right to state those views and be heard, and to be accepted, loved and listened to.

  • JohnMWhite

    @Lynne – I should have stopped reading when I got to this part: “But no one was forcing him to say a prayer”. Normally I try to be eloquent and patient in dealing with people I disagree with, in the hope of forming some common ground and resolving an issue. However, clearly you are a complete idiot, so the gloves are off. You are either deliberately ignoring the fact that the school was breaking the law, and not just any law but the very foundation of all law in the United States – they were breaching the US Constitution, which itself is not a mere technicality – or you are utterly incapable of comprehending that law trumps the rights of communities to form violently exclusive cliques.
    You have to be excessively stupid or barbarically immoral to truly believe that might simply makes right and that people should avoid making waves with those around them just because there’s more of them. Of course, your role model said things to the majority around him and ended up crucified for it, but somehow I doubt you think that was his own stupid fault. So when you say “In all reality he brought this upon himself” – well, that settles it. You may claim that you are a Christian, but you are not a very good one. You are not forgiving, you are not kind hearted, you do not have a sense of justice or charity, you do not believe in protecting the vulnerable, rather you would support complete hypocrites just like yourself, on the presumption that individuals have no right to be protected from community harassment and vilification, even if that community is supposed to be one of ‘love’. You are not only a terrible Christian, you are a terrible human being.
    Meg, on the other hand, seems to have got the right idea, even if it is a bit silly to disagree with someone’s point of view when their point of view was a raw and unarguable fact that the school was breaking the law. But at least Meg has the decency to acknowledge that minorities have the right to their own views and to their own agency, regardless of how vicious the majority might be.

  • Lynne

    @ JohnMWhite
    I never claimed I was anything in terms of religion. If you are going to make assumptions, and let emotion guide you, then please don’t go around calling other people idiots. It says more about yourself and your own myopic reasoning than it does about them. I jaywalk, I still have two books that belong to the library where I used to live, I do a lot of little things that might technically be illegal. I think I should turn myself into the police, as well as everyone else who is “breaking the law” almost everyday.
    You know what? It’s called common sense, something that you cannot comprehend, apparently. It’s called picking and choosing your own battles. It’s called reality. This IS/WAS a Christian nation. Separation of Church and State means not making prayer a regular and mandatory practice in schools. This was a one-time/isolated event where a student wanted to say a prayer at a school that is at least 90 percent practicing Christians. I’ll say it again. No one was forcing him to participate. You can continue to reel off at the mouth in your oh-so authoritative tone, but the real idiot is you. And so is the real problem. You cherry pick from people’s comments, and focus on what you want to, just like all drama queens and kings. Get a life, seriously.

  • Lynne

    Oh, and Meg claims that he merely stated an opinion. Well, Meg is wrong. He did more than passively state an opinion. Evidently people no longer possess any kind of reading comprehension skills either. He threatened to report the school; over a petty prayer. Give me a break.

  • Max

    Those ridiculous Christians WOULD believe that his actions were fueled by Satan, rather than him being his own person. I find it strange that the majority believes such stupid things. Grown men and women, as well as young adults, should be thinking for themselves. Shit, man.

  • Lu

    it’s ironic that his name is Damon, because that means “demon” in Greek.

  • joe

    good ol people gettin mad about fictional characters

  • Gary Dee

    TO all the Christian Fundamentalists in America- Stay there. You read right. Stay the hell in Alabama, Missouri or wherever the hell you are and, eventually, interbreed yourselves into retardation and extinction. In an age where reality means flying a machine to the surface of Mars, discovery of new planets able to support life and the possibility of actually inventing anti-gravity in our lifetime your ignorant attempts of forcing Bronze Age idiocy and hearsay onto a thinking populace only embarrasses you and your ilk.
    If I prayed , I would pray for the immediate illegality of all religion on Earth.
    Religion and hearsay is responsible for all wars, all strife and all conflict in America – this garbage has spread North into Canada where it has infiltrated our own government. Prime Minister Steven Harper counts himself as one of you dinosaur control freaks and we Westerners can not WAIT to pull this country apart and be done with this insane, inbred, hill-billy thinking.
    Good Luck marrying your cousins.
    Oh, and by the way, i read a few passages in this bible fictional account and this Jesus (no last name) professed to ” love, respect and have compassion for all people”. Perhaps it may be a good idea to actually read that book once in a while instead of telling people how to conduct themselves.

  • ocooch

    My step-father used to say “it’s alright to say ‘I don’t know'”, and that’s why I get bothered when devout atheists criticize agnostics. Most agnostics are agnostics because they truly don’t know. I am a true agnostic, because I don’t believe it”s even “possible” to know whether God exists. Unfortunately, I am often attacked as if I were a fundamentalist Christian.
    Also unfortunately, my step-father didn’t take his own advice when it came to religion. It all hinged upon the all-important “faith”. When I told him that if that was the case, then I might also well believe that the cow jumped over the moon. (That really pissed him off.) It is for that reason I proudly separate myself from the atheists who “know” there is no god. It is open-minded to not believe, and that is a virtue. It is not open-minded to KNOW there is no god. On top of that, when criticizing the hypocrisy of those people who attacked and disowned Damon Fowler, in language and intention that mirrored that hypocrisy, most of the commentators here also failed to see the irony of their words and intentions that reflected their hatred and fear–of Christians as well as the self-proclaimed agnostic.
    Religions come and go–but hatred and fear are forever. So is love and empathy. Hatred and fear are born of ignorance. Love is born of wisdom and knowledge. Really. That’s wisdom. I’m not a Jew, but I like how the Talmud states that :”Kindness is the greatest wisdom.” Let’s all try to be wise.
    The bible is a complex book made of much misinformation, contradiction, and (yes-admit it) wisdom. Unfortunately, most Christians now and historically have evaded much of the wisdom in the bible. As atheists and agnostics, let’s try to be more “civil” and kind and wise. Indignant insults from non-atheists is just as unattractive and uncivil as indignant insults from atheists.
    By the way, if someone calls me a closet xtian you really are being an idiot. You don’t know that, and you would be wrong. It’s OK to be wrong–just don’t believe that being wrong is a virtue, by virtue of you being an atheist or religionist.

  • Don

    “This IS/WAS a Christian nation.”
    Yes Lynne, and the Holocaust never happened, and the Moon landings were all faked.
    Try taking a history class or five, and Google “The Treaty of Tripoli” – also, I will give you $1,000 for every mention of the Christian god in the Constitution (hint; there aren’t any).
    “No one was forcing him to participate.”
    Wow, do you actually believe the dishonest tripe you’re spewing? IT WAS HIS GRADUATION! Sure, he could’ve stayed home and received his diploma in the mail…but the FACT remains that his rights were violated, not to mention the law.
    Seriously, at least TRY to understand the situation before mouthing off again. Thanks so much.

  • Brianna

    @Everyone…Please, please, PLEASE stop making assumptions about people based on one post he or she makes here, or anywhere else. Just because someone misreads something or doesn’t completely understand an argument, does not mean they are a hick, dumbass, cracker, stupid, a bad reader or anything else like what I’ve seen posted here…this stereotyping and cruelty is just what we want to be put to a stop, right? Then make it start with you. Also, remember not all Christians are angry bible thumpers.

  • Meg

    @JohnMWhite
    Sorry if I didn’t make myself clear, I agree the school was breaking the law, that is a fact. Any type of prayer done in that setting could be done by something like a group of students, or another private group, etc, NOT the school itself, since it’s a public school.
    @Lynn
    I’ve thought more about it, and I agree that Damon could’ve handled the situation differently. He could’ve brought his opinion to light by just going to the school board or something, however we as the public can’t know all the circumstances, and maybe Damon tried other ways before threatening the school.

  • remigius

    Barry. The Freethinker needs a forum.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    NORTH LOUISIANA has been described as “the buckle on the Bible Belt”
    It should be noted that many spots in the U.S. have been so described.
    Arkansas is the buckle of the Bible Belt
    Oklahoma could be called the Buckle of the Bile Belt
    South Carolina has been described as the buckle of the Bible Belt
    Joplin (Missouri) is centrally situated in the buckle of the Bible Belt

  • Maddie

    I live in Louisiana. Personally, I hate it. Not just Lousiana, but the South in general. Soon I will be moving up north to get away from all of this. Being an agnostic independent is not simply accepted here. I should be able to live my life the way I choose and so should everyone else (Though, that does not include murder…or child abuse or rape…no). My point is people should be able to be black or white and not be bothered if theyre not one or the other. People should be able to be gay or lesbian without someone telling them they are wrong because of who they are. People should be able to be a liberal or conservative and not get attacked by one another. And people should be able to be a Christian or not without undoubted persecusion. If you are even slightly a rational thinking do not come to Louisiana. It is racist, gay-bashing, overly conservative, and if you don’t go to church these damn Christians are going to want to know why. Do not get me wrong, I have nothing wrong with Chrsitians. Just do NOT push your beliefs on me and do not be a HYPOCRITE. I find it funny when Christians harrass and pick on kids like this. I could be wrong, but im dretty damn sure somewhere in that book it says ‘to be nice.’ This discusts me.

  • Kosta

    It is dangerous to teach our children of imaginary creatures like god. Children start to blur reality and fantasy when confronted with people that live their life by faith and people that live their life by reason. No wonder the christians demonize others that don’t think the way they do, because they have no other fight. When you live your life with contradictions, you never see the truth. God was created in man’s image, man’s rules, man’s laws. Stop trying to make theology the Social norm and respect others for their belief, not spiritual.

  • Sami

    I doubt most of these people would’ve done anything if everybody else wasn’t doing it, too. Sheep are my favourite. <3

  • Harmless Fuzzy Bunny

    Sorry folks, but tolerance goes both ways. Would you go to Saudi Arabia and scold the vast majority of people who begin and end each sentence with “Allah akbar”? No, of course not, they’re not demanding *you* say it, and that backwater school didn’t demand *everyone* bow their heads. And no, Hermoine, they’re not the “buckle” of the bible-belt, they’re the armpit. I live in the buckle – The People’s Theocratic Republic of Oklahomastan – and any Okie who wants to know if I have a personal relationship with Jeebus finds out with a smile and a wink that I’m a born-in-the-wool, hell-bound heathen, thanks for asking. But only those who ask. If I’m at a college ball game (Boomer!) and all the christers want to drop to their knees and drool all over themselves before, during or after the game, how am I harmed? None of my children’s classes have been “The Proper Worship of and Subjugation to Jeebus” – so if some brainwashed cheerleader wants to thank the invisible Jewish carpenter – why should I care?

  • I agree with the point of this article which is too expose the strong discrimination as a result of religion but this seems to be making a rather black and white impact. The same type of people that are willing to outcast people for their lack of religious views are the same type of people that would outcast people for their religious views. Extremists exist in every religious/political/ group; they blatantly believe anything that sounds the most convincing and jump head first into it.
    All I’m saying is, there are alot of decent christians, muslims, jews, and etc, but like anything else, there’s a lot of dick head fuckers that just ruin the whole thing regardless of it’s sentimental purpose of community and best intentions.
    On another note, I completely agree with lynn and respect meg for thinking about what she said and considering alternative solutions to Damon. This is how society gets better rather then every one else here shooting off their guns over what someone else said.
    An opinion is an opinion, some will disagree with me and that’s cool.
    SMOKE WEED ERRDAY

  • Avelmira

    Must spread this article and the actions of their “Jesus-like” disciples to the rest of the world, so we can further understand what monsters they truly are.

  • Makenna Herl

    Christians are assholes and this pisses me off-
    Have a nice day…………

  • Rae

    Rather unfortunately, I know where Damon is coming from. I’ve grown up in the deep South (Mississippi) and while I was annoyed that we had a prayer at graduation, football games, every other sport-oriented activity, pep rallies, and some classes, I and the two or three other athiests were too afraid to speak up (I mean, we’re gay, too, so god forbid (no, really) we do anything but keep our heads down and not speak unless spoken to). We once rebelled against it, but then they started calling it ‘commencement’ or something instead of prayer, a cute little way of side-stepping that ‘law.’
    Even now, in college, if I say I’m an athiest, I get immediately and harshly judged.
    That being said, I commend you, Damon. I’m glad there’s someone stuck in hell with me that’s rebelling against the tyranny. It’s a losing battle (at least it is down here), but I’m proud of you for standing up for what you believe in even in the face of such harsh, terrible criticism.

  • kevin

    Good, he’s a douchbag anyway. Plus all you people in the comments are just like the school and its students

  • Rickie Featherstone

    People are people, we all believe in something, even if it’s nothing. The real problem is, majority of what is acceptable, it’s typically expected to be accepted by all. Even then, any lager group of self righteous indignant ignorance always spewes indignant self righteous ignorance. You want peace, speak peace; you want love, be love. If any religion could come close to a deception to a “God”, that is love and every thing good. If there is ever lasting eternity, it it’s in the good we do that lives on. So enough with the illogical war, and live logically in peace.

  • streetlightmani

    While I do give noexplanation or justification to this, I feel I should point out one discrepancy:
    “Christian fundamentalists have persecuted atheists and agnostics for the past 30 years with accusations that non-believers are aggressive and are “throwing atheism in our faces,” when the opposite is true.”
    Unfortunately, this is true for both sides. You go on any secular online forum and you see both sides doing it; an atheist friend of mine took a post I made on Facebook (which had nothing to do with proving or disproving the existence of God) and turned it into an anti-religious hate storm with faulty logic and unnecessary insults. I know this is an atheist online magazine, but I still feel this is a little overly biased.
    That being said, I AM a Christian, think of it what you will, but I’m completely on Damon’s side in this case. This is a pathetic bastardization of what belief is supposed to entail; I can’t justify this and I won’t try to. Its disgusting.

  • Anna

    This is madness, im eternally grateful i dont live in America.

  • Lisa

    I say we raise some money to put a statue of Charles Darwin in a prominent place in the city.

  • RedheadDane

    Seriously, what’s WRONG with those people? IF the school had actually kept its word, and simply held a minute of silent reflection, what was to keep anyone from using that minute for PRAYER? Problem solved.
    Group-choir-prayers tend to be mechanic and untrue anyway…

  • donniebnyc

    There is actually nothing more christian than violence against non-believers.

  • RevAtheist

    I would really like a link to the interview where they said they were armed and ready to force Christianity on America. Without that link I can’t take that claim seriously, even if I do believe it is highly likely. I just would like to know the source because just as with Christian claims, I do not just accept them without evidence. If somebody has that interview or a place where it is referenced more clearly, please post it

  • His parents disowned him? Cowards. Religion poisons everything, indeed. Even the love of parents for their children, I gather.

  • Sinjin Smythe

    “Humanity without religion is like a serial killer without a chainsaw.”

  • charles

    that is the biggest load of shit i have ever read, that kid deserves a medal for putting it up to the church , all the church is a hippocritical corporation that prays off the old who had it beat into them and likes little boys , and the worst part is that nothing has been done about it !!!!!!