Forget the flu jabs, Jesus will protect you says mad preacher

Forget the flu jabs, Jesus will protect you says mad preacher February 3, 2018

Televangelist Gloria Copeland, of the Eagle Mountain International Church in Texas, had a message for her followers this week: Jesus is the only protection people need from influenza.
According to this report, Gloria – wife of Kenneth Copeland, a member of President Trump’s Faith Advisory Council – posted a video on the Kenneth Copeland Ministeries Facebook page – in which she said:

Listen partners, we don’t have a flu season. And don’t receive it when somebody threatens you with, ‘Everybody is getting the flu’. We’ve already had our shot, He [Jesus] bore our sicknesses and carried our diseases. That’s what we stand on.


Praying for those who may already have the flu, Copeland proclaimed:

Flu, I bind you off the people in the name of Jesus. Jesus himself gave us the flu shot, He redeemed us from the curse of flu.

Those who don’t have the flu, she promised, can protect themselves by simply declaring:

I’ll never have the flu. Inoculate yourself with the word of God.

In 2013 he Eagle Mountain International Church was at the center of a measles outbreak attributed to the church’s belief that congregants can forego vaccines because Jesus will protect them from illness.

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  • AgentCormac

    Mad as a box of frogs.

  • tonye

    @AgentCormac,
    That’s unfair on frogs!

  • barriejohn

    Here’s someone who definitely croaked:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/01/27/how-the-photographer-of-a-snake-handling-pastor-handled-the-bite-that-killed-him/
    (Mack Wolford’s death was covered here in 2012, but has been in the news again recently.)
    PS Why doesn’t the stupid bat just “bind” all harmful viruses and bacteria on earth, and empty our hospitals for us? It can’t be THAT difficult, surely.

  • barriejohn

    Kenneth and Gloria Copeland peddle the “Prosperity Gospel” nonsense. Are your furnishings looking a bit tired and “yesteryear”? Don’t fret; just “believe God” for new ones!
    https://youtu.be/Bn1rbGzNYRQ
    You need to read the comments as well:
    “I’m currently believing for a brand new home and new furniture for each room for that home all debt free before the end of 2017. And the financial means to move from my current location to the area I desire to live in that home. Please pray for me.”
    Yep – definitely in need of prayer.

  • Angela_K

    This idiot is not only a danger herself but also to everybody else, clearly she does not understand herd immunisation.
    I’ve seen better dressed drag artists – that jacket!

  • andym

    “Prosperity gospel” Whose prosperity?
    I don’t think the comments are ironic. Reminds me of what Patrick Moore used to say of astrology,”It does prove one thing. That there’s one born every minute.”

  • barriejohn

    “Whose prosperity?” indeed:
    http://freethinker.co.uk/2018/01/03/trump-praises-prosperity-preacher-kenneth-copeland/
    Copeland recently took delivery of his new Gulfstream V. Praise the Lord!

  • Broga

    Snake handling. That is cruelty to snakes.

  • barriejohn

    Broga: But which is which?

  • Euston

    Yes and with all the filthy dosh they con out of people I bet she enjoys the best health care money can buy …. including flu jabs.Hope she contracts something horrible. Something debilitating and disfiguring that will cause her followers to ask why God is so unmerciful by letting her suffer.

  • L.Long

    ANother top level religious nut proving once again I’m right … the religious and other superstitious are st00pid!!! to the point that makes stupid people look really smart!

  • Broga

    Euston: Probably. Like the nun who claimed, as a result of her sanctity, not to need to eat. She was discovered skulking to the kitchen in the night.
    Or the priest with the bleeding stigmata who was revealed to be scratching his palms with a sharp piece of metal to keep the wounds open.
    We have just watched David Attenborough’s brilliant TV programme on evolution. If the Christian believers in the bible had succeeded we would know nothing of this. And they are still trying to corrupt children’s brains with creationism.

  • andym

    @ Broga. Or the Bishop of Chelmsford who has told us we are”hooked on materialism.” This a week or so after the C of E was exposed using ancient feudal privilege to lay claim to the minerals beneath people’s houses.
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-re-hooked-on-materialism-says-bishop-of-chelmsford-cjd8wr8zf

  • andym
  • StephenJP

    andym: this Bishop was giving a speech to a Christian education forum, and peddling the lie issued by the increasingly absurd AB of Cant a few weeks ago that secular schools don’t provide their pupils with a proper moral framework. I thought this was just Welby’s ignorance or malevolence but they all seem to be at it.
    On the original post, were it not for the herd immunity argument, I would be all in favour of encouraging these people to avoid medical intervention for a wide range of conditions. Let natural selection work its magic!

  • Philby

    The Evangelists prey upon the flock who do as bidden and pray to god.

  • Bubblecar

    I don’t think she’s mad, I think she’s a cynical fraud, like all these money-grabbing charlatans. And she doesn’t give a stuff about endangering the health of the gullible – why should she?
    These people are perfectly happy to screw up the mental health of the vulnerable, so their physical health is expendable too. They probably expect their “ministries” to benefit bigtime from a lot of crazy people’s wills.

  • barriejohn

    Bubblecar: I think about that a lot. Are they deluded, or are they cynical liars, manipulating their gullible followers? From my own experiences as a fundamentalist Christian I would say that it varies from person to person, but a great many of them were “brought up in the faith”, and, even if they now see through it all, find it impossible to backtrack. They’re in too deep. I know for a fact that there are a great number of preachers in pulpits and on platforms, and comforting the sick and bereaved, who are spouting things that they don’t really believe, but feel that they just have to go through the motions. I did it myself, continuing to deliver well-received sermons (no one guessed what was really going on!), and was rewarded with a breakdown and years of depression, as the mental strain was unbelievable. Broga has referred to an organization (The Clergy Project, I believe) which helps priests who no longer believe. It’s a serious problem.
    http://faithinfeminism.com/a-woman-who-lost-her-faith-over-womens-oppression/?doing_wp_cron=1517710151.5747330188751220703125

  • Bubblecar

    barriejohn, I’m sure there are many sincerely deluded amongst the flock, but I was referring more to these televangelist preachers whose “churches” are entirely focused on making money.
    Gloria Copeland is the wife of zillionaire Kenneth, of Kenneth Copeland Ministries. To quote Wikipedia: “Copeland has been identified with preaching a prosperity and abundance message, commonly referred to as the prosperity gospel”
    Their “church” fields five private jets for the personal use of the Copelands and they own many lavish houses etc. KCM is transparently a scam run for personal profit, but the gullible can’t stop throwing money at them.

  • 1859

    When Mrs. Copeland is lying in bed with open pustules oozing bubonic plague and her tongue is so swollen she can hardly breathe, and beside her bed a doctor is standing holding a pill in one hand and a bible in the other. The pill, she is told by the doc, will cure her and save her life, but the outcome, should she choose the bible, is uncertain. I’m not generally a betting man but in this scenario I would bet every penny on which option she would choose.

  • barriejohn

    Bubblecar: I was talking about the “shepherds”, and not the “sheep”, actually. I really do think that a great many of them – even the televangelists – start out as sincere believers who think that what they are doing is essential to people’s welfare, before the juggernaut that they have created takes control. We’ve dealt with the Copelands here on several occasions, and Ken, in particular, seems a shifty, smarmy sort of cove, whom I wouldn’t trust for one minute, but I’m sure that many of them just see their immense wealth as a sign of “God’s blessing”, as do their followers. You can talk yourself into believing – and justifying – almost anything.
    The evangelist, who is worth around $760-m (£562-m), expressed amazement in 2016 that that his outfit – Kenneth Copeland Ministries – was being run as a non-profit entity.
    He is quoted here as saying:
    “This whole time I thought we were all about the profits. It sure feels profit-y. Huh. Strange.”

    http://freethinker.co.uk/2018/01/03/trump-praises-prosperity-preacher-kenneth-copeland/

  • And for a more satirical take on the Trump medical platform, check out http://www.johnnyrobish.com/in-the-news/trump-evangelical-guru-advises-forgoing-flu-shots-prayer