<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Bart Erhman? Do You Have Any Thoughts? New Book: Jesus Interrupted</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thepangeablog/2010/01/31/bart-erhman-do-you-have-any-thoughts-new-book-jesus-interrupted/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thepangeablog/2010/01/31/bart-erhman-do-you-have-any-thoughts-new-book-jesus-interrupted/</link>
	<description>Kurt Willems&#039; Blog at Patheos</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:44:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mark Wisborg</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thepangeablog/2010/01/31/bart-erhman-do-you-have-any-thoughts-new-book-jesus-interrupted/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Wisborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://groansfromwithin.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/bart-erhman-do-you-have-any-thoughts-new-book-jesus-interrupted#comment-391</guid>
		<description>Bart Ehrman is angry with a fictional character the same way you and I may grow furious with evil villains like Emperor Palpatine, Sauron, or Voldemort.  They aren&#039;t real, but we can grow to love and hate fictional characters.  If we didn&#039;t, I&#039;m not certain people would read fiction!

He has never claimed to be certain that God doesn&#039;t exist.  In fact, he&#039;s stated quite explicitly that he is an agnostic.  There&#039;s a HUGE difference there, sir.  In fact, agnosticism is pretty much the opposite of what you characterized his attitude as.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bart Ehrman is angry with a fictional character the same way you and I may grow furious with evil villains like Emperor Palpatine, Sauron, or Voldemort.  They aren&#8217;t real, but we can grow to love and hate fictional characters.  If we didn&#8217;t, I&#8217;m not certain people would read fiction!</p>
<p>He has never claimed to be certain that God doesn&#8217;t exist.  In fact, he&#8217;s stated quite explicitly that he is an agnostic.  There&#8217;s a HUGE difference there, sir.  In fact, agnosticism is pretty much the opposite of what you characterized his attitude as.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dan Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thepangeablog/2010/01/31/bart-erhman-do-you-have-any-thoughts-new-book-jesus-interrupted/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://groansfromwithin.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/bart-erhman-do-you-have-any-thoughts-new-book-jesus-interrupted#comment-390</guid>
		<description>Well, I&#039;ve gotta say that while I disagree with Ehrman on a lot, this quote:

&quot;many of Christianity’s fundamental stories and doctrines don’t actually exist within its pages-they were later inventions by people trying to make sense of a disconnected collection of texts.&quot;

and this one:

&quot;The Nicene Creed and the Trinity were constructs of the later church and are not found in the Bible.&quot;

are absolutely correct. I&#039;ve been frustrated by the depth of extrabiblical doctrine in commonly-taught Christianity, and Ehrman&#039;s right to point it out.

I heard him debate N.T. Wright on the problem of evil a couple years back, and at the time he made the same claim about the divergent pictures of Jesus in Matthew and Luke. I think he&#039;s off base here, if for no other reason than different people report different observations, even if they both observe an event. . .and in Luke&#039;s case he did NOT observe; he probably interviewed a bunch of other primary sources (my guess is Mary and Peter) and compiled his work from their personal accounts.

But Ehrman is playing the same game my verbal-inspiration pastor plays, just on the other side. . .if it&#039;s not all 100% accurate, you can&#039;t trust any of it. For Ehrman that means it&#039;s all hogwash; for my pastor it means I&#039;m on thin ice if I don&#039;t take it all as divinely dictated. They&#039;re both guilty of the identical logical fallacy.

Plus, I noticed when he spoke, that Bart Ehrman is awfully indignant or angry at that God he&#039;s convinced doesn&#039;t exist...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve gotta say that while I disagree with Ehrman on a lot, this quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;many of Christianity’s fundamental stories and doctrines don’t actually exist within its pages-they were later inventions by people trying to make sense of a disconnected collection of texts.&#8221;</p>
<p>and this one:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Nicene Creed and the Trinity were constructs of the later church and are not found in the Bible.&#8221;</p>
<p>are absolutely correct. I&#8217;ve been frustrated by the depth of extrabiblical doctrine in commonly-taught Christianity, and Ehrman&#8217;s right to point it out.</p>
<p>I heard him debate N.T. Wright on the problem of evil a couple years back, and at the time he made the same claim about the divergent pictures of Jesus in Matthew and Luke. I think he&#8217;s off base here, if for no other reason than different people report different observations, even if they both observe an event. . .and in Luke&#8217;s case he did NOT observe; he probably interviewed a bunch of other primary sources (my guess is Mary and Peter) and compiled his work from their personal accounts.</p>
<p>But Ehrman is playing the same game my verbal-inspiration pastor plays, just on the other side. . .if it&#8217;s not all 100% accurate, you can&#8217;t trust any of it. For Ehrman that means it&#8217;s all hogwash; for my pastor it means I&#8217;m on thin ice if I don&#8217;t take it all as divinely dictated. They&#8217;re both guilty of the identical logical fallacy.</p>
<p>Plus, I noticed when he spoke, that Bart Ehrman is awfully indignant or angry at that God he&#8217;s convinced doesn&#8217;t exist&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Minified using disk: basic (User agent is rejected)
Page Caching using disk: enhanced (User agent is rejected)
Database Caching using disk: basic
Object Caching 264/272 objects using disk: basic
Content Delivery Network via Amazon Web Services: S3: wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com (user agent is rejected)

Served from: www.patheos.com @ 2012-02-04 10:12:48 -->
