The Will of God, Jesus, the Bishops and the UMC

The Will of God, Jesus, the Bishops and the UMC February 28, 2018

I don’t know what life would look like if one entered with perfection into the will of God. The problem? Jesus messes that up for me. Surely, he, if anyone, did indeed walk that path to the center of God’s will. And look what happened to him.


Perhaps it is the Will of God to let the UMC dieI feel for them, the UMC Bishops. At considerable expense and after prolonged anguish, they appointed a commission, The Way Forward, that was supposed to take this off their plate, i.e., discerning will of God for the troubled UMC.

The Commission, however, punted, putting back in the Bishop’s hands three possibilities, none of which are particularly new ideas. Now the Bishops have to decide what to do with those options.

Let me lay out what I think they are facing. And yes, I am very much reminded of Let’s Make a Deal.

Door Number One: Keep things essentially as they are, including the discriminatory language toward those who don’t fit the binary sexual spectrum.

Prize: The Far Left will leave, and the UMC will be forever known and stained as a “no gays allowed inside” denomination. The Far Right will rejoice in their victory and happily start dispensing accountability questionnaires [read: heresy trials] to make sure no secret LGBTQI supporters stay. And I guess they’ll have to make sure that any children eventually born into the new denomination correctly fit the sexual parameters as well. That should be interesting.

Door Number Two: Remove the restrictive language and let everyone decide for themselves.

Prize: The Far Right will leave and the stain the remaining Methodist Church as a “they don’t believe what the Bible truly says” denomination. The Far Left, relieved, will then discover how very much they need the legal, denominational, and political expertise of the Far Right. The remainder ends up eating itself in institutional chaos by its core instability because everyone is busy doing their own thing.

Door Number Three: Split theologically into several pieces, but stay connected institutionally by trust clauses, pensions, and overall denominational structure.

Prize: Both the Far Right and the Far Left, unable to concede even one inch that the other side has something valid to contribute, will leave once they figure out a way to preserve their pension funds and their church buildings. Those left behind are unable to fund a bureaucratic structure so heavy that it already threatens to topple the church. A proposal to dissolve what is left of the (formerly United) Methodist Church will see a passing vote at the 2020 General Conference with final details presented at the 2024, and last, General Conference.

What IS the Will of God?

OK, now that I’ve got that out of my system, I want to talk about what it means to discern the will of God. I want to talk about it because I don’t know what it means anymore. Please, someone, help me out.

When I was a young, and far more certain that I knew something, Christian, I was also sure I could accurately discern the will of God, both for myself, and, in my youthful arrogance, for just about everyone around me as well.

Sigh, what an obnoxious, know-it-all prig I must have been during those years. (No comments, please, about how that part of my personality still exists).

My particular complex spiritual and marital history is undoubtedly a testament to how poorly I succeeded at that task. But I WAS SO SURE GOD HAD SPOKEN!!!!

I remember friends, again from those early days, using the “open the Bible randomly and God will tell you” methodology for discovering PRECISELY WHAT GOD WANTED them to do at any given time. I never ventured down that particular path but continued to affirm that my ever-so-superior intellect and years of biblical study offered me considerable enlightenment and explicit knowledge.

Except it didn’t. Mainly because I didn’t and still don’t know what life would look like if a person (or denomination) followed without fail the will of God. One would think that living fully within the will of God would lead to profound peace, everlasting love, light and happiness–and at least a modicum of prosperity thrown in as well.

The problem? Jesus really messes that up. He, if anyone, did indeed walk that path to perfection. And look what happened to him! Gosh, people started to try to kill him from his earliest moments and finally succeeded in the most awful of ways when he was still a young, and presumably vital with a glorious future in front of him, man.

So in the ever meandering paths that constitute what I call my mind, I start wondering if the will of God for the UMC might, just might, be a path to the cross, an intentional death, a time of offering everything we have for the sake of the world.

I mean, isn’t that what Jesus did?

What if we intentionally set our lives down?

What if we acknowledge that God has indeed led us into the valley of the shadow of death?

What if we enter with our heads held courageously high and sit down to feast at the table God sets before us, even if it is laden with unfamiliar foods?

What if we carefully hand to the generations following a gospel of grace, a set of methods for spiritual growth that do indeed work, and generous funding for the immense creativity that will be needed to offer that grace to a world that sees itself again being devoured by forces behind our control?

I know this is equally as complex a proposal. I worry myself sick on occasion especially over our younger clergy, who have a ridiculous load of student loans to pay back, incurred by their passion for the gospel. I also know that some of our faithful, long-term clergy, the ones who never got the big-bucks appointments but lived in one creaky parsonage after another, are retiring on inadequate pensions and do not have a house underneath them to offer some financial stability. These are real problems.

But I also know that the UMC sits on billions of dollars of real estate, and way too much money is spent on repairing aging buildings that have long since served their purpose. I know that most church plants, the way we are doing them now, are both ridiculously expensive and have massive failure rates.

The future of the church is rooted solidly in the past: in intimate groups, encouraging one another toward good deeds and genuine holiness, both personal and societal. While passive, entertainment-style worship services will always continue to draw their crowds of people looking to feel good for a while, there has always been and always will be people who want to know God, to live for God, and to be part of the redemption and healing of the world.

That’s what Methodism stands for. That’s why it was so powerful both in England and in the early days of US history and formation. At our core, we are counter-cultural, subversive, intensely personal. The more we tried to mainstream ourselves, to institutionalize ourselves, the more we found ourselves sinking.

Maybe this is what our resurrection looks like. But we have to endure Good Friday to get there.


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  • Chuck Johnson

    OK, now that I’ve got that out of my system, I want to talk about what it means to discern the will of God. I want to talk about it because I don’t know what it means anymore. Please, someone, help me out.-Christy

    It’s simple.
    God is a fictional character. He is a human invention.
    There never has been and never will be a perfect expression of the will of God.
    All such expressions are defective and incomplete.
    God has no brain and no mind.

    The will of human beings are the real will of God.
    This includes your own will, Christy.
    Make your own contribution to expressing the will of God.
    The results will be less than perfect, but you can make a difference for the better.

    • Rick Schu

      So you are an atheist with lots of fancy word’s. I was an atheist once, and got into astrology, tarot cards, etc. But I grew up and now see how wrong I was. I am curious as to whether you are a Democrat? I think I know.

      • Chuck Johnson

        I have never voted.
        The prospect of having to say “yes” to either Donald Or Hillary is very unpleasant.

      • Chuck Johnson

        “I was an atheist once, and got into astrology, tarot cards, etc.”

        But you wern’t much of an atheist.
        The superstitions that you mention are similar to religions.
        My understandings are scientific.

      • Chuck Johnson

        What sort of non-atheism are you into now ?

  • Charles Neal

    Thanks Christy. You have said it all. I appreciate you very, very much.

  • Richard Worden Wilson

    So sad that the Comments are mostly non-conversations about total approval or totally “oh, please listen to me and my own personal “fictional” fantasies. There is some serious stuff for Christians in this, but the entertainment tangents may get in the way of know just what is being said.

  • jekylldoc

    I think your path may be the right one, even though the agony of shedding the “Edifice complex” that grew up in the days when mammon went to church may be too much for any institution. But you asked the question in a slightly different way, and I propose a slightly different way of answering it.

    Discerning the will of God? If you have a sense that the Spirit is not a peek-a-boo pipeline to secret knowledge but rather a mighty stream of empathy and meaning, as I do, then it might be that the “will of God” is not some predestined path which is all-righteous and all we have to do to be all-righteous is figure out what that path is. Instead, the will of God may be that we listen to each other and be faithful even if the other is going to crucify us. I don’t know exactly what that looks like in practice, but one possibility is that the left recognizes that the church has come a long way already, and will come even further in the next generation, and exercises supernatural patience.

    Some people are sure that the church has waited too long already. Furthermore, they know that the reactionary forces arrayed against compassionate tolerance in the church will never yield an inch, nor rest from their self-righteous crusade until they have chased out every vestige of liberalism. But is that view really the left as a whole in the UMC? I wonder.

  • Ivan T. Errible

    But why is it so boring?
    And if you and your church are reading the same book and listening to the same god (an almighty being, btw), how could you possibly come to different conclusions?