Watch this clip and tell me if you’ve ever seen/heard a Pentecostal TV preacher who sounds so much like Peter Rollins. Then tell me which phrase got his show canceled. I’m guessing “the negation of the negation.”
The Tony Jones Blog at Patheos
Watch this clip and tell me if you’ve ever seen/heard a Pentecostal TV preacher who sounds so much like Peter Rollins. Then tell me which phrase got his show canceled. I’m guessing “the negation of the negation.”
If you follow the lunatic fringes of Pentecostal-evangelicalism, you’ve heard of Todd Bentley. A former child molester, Bentley is a YouTube star for screaming on stage, claiming to cure cancer, and claiming to cure that cancer by bashing old ladies’ heads on stage.
An evangelist preacher who has claimed he can cure people of their illnesses by hitting and kicking them has been banned from entering the UK by the Home Office.
Todd Bentley, a controversial revivalist healer based in the United States, had been due to hold a series of gatherings in England, Wales and Northern Ireland in the next few weeks. But the Home Office said Bentley, a Canadian citizen, was subject to an exclusion order and would not be permitted entry to the country.
“We can confirm that Mr Bentley has been excluded from the UK. The government makes no apologies for refusing people access to the UK if we believe they are not conducive to the public good. Coming here is a privilege that we refuse to extend to those who might seek to undermine our society,” the Home Office said.
Bentley, a 36-year-old former drug addict who at the age of 13 sexually assaulted a minor, reacted angrily to the decision, writing on his church’s Facebook page: “What about all the other celebrities, musicians and others with a more colorful past than me that are permitted into the UK for shows … Is this really about my past and fear of potential violence or Freedom of Religion and attack on Faith, God & Healing?” [via Revivalist preacher Todd Bentley refused entry to UK | World news | The Guardian]
So, kudos to our brothers and sisters in Great Britain for showing some common sense.
Jonathan Martin weighs on Real Marriage and the Driscoll interview:
To be clear, my reason for taking this on has nothing to do with Mark Driscoll personally, per se. I have been just as passionate about defending women in ministry inside my own tradition. (Those are other stories for another time—I just think its important to note that this is an issue dear to my heart in general that I have spoken to consistently, as opposed to just being a bandwagon critic of Driscoll’s. People within my tradition know my, um, reputation for speaking to these matters well enough) I am very aware of how my reformed brothers interpret some key texts on the role of women in the church differently than I do. The argument that Mark lays out implicitly here, however, is not so much from Scripture but his own culturally conditioned assessment of the role of women in leadership. I come from a very different cultural context that tells a very different story, so I will limit my remarks to that today (though the Biblical debate is one I would love to have anytime).
READ THE REST Jonathan Martin: Pastor of Renovatus Church in Charlotte NC – Why Mark Driscoll is wrong about women in church leadership..
HT: Kimberly Alexander

Lauren Winner, Phyllis Tickle, and Your Humble Correspondent
While at Fuller Seminary earlier this month, Lauren Winner, Phyllis Tickle, and I spoke at a public event in Fuller’s Travis Auditorium, put on by Fuller’s The Burner Blog. The topic was, “Emerging Spiritualities in the American Church,” and it began with each of us giving a few minutes of monologue. Then I was charged with hosting a bit of a panel discussion.
In her response to my question, Phyllis played to the crowd, mentioning the late Fuller theologian Ray Anderson’s book, An Emergent Theology for Emerging Churches. Therein, Anderson compares what’s happening between today’s conventional and emergent churches to the differences between the church in Jerusalem and Antioch in the first century. Phyllis likes that comparison, and so do I.
As a follow-up, I asked Lauren, whose PhD is in history, a question. I confessed that I am skeptical, bordering on worried, about the burgeoning Pentecostal movement in the Global South; I admitted that I find it theologically “thin” and that my tendency is to want to “save” them with my “better” theology. My question for Lauren: Am I simply a Jerusalem Christian, worried about the innovations in Antioch?

George O. Wood
Readers of my blog will remember that George O. Wood, General Superintendent of the Assemblies of God pressured the Society for Pentecostal Studies to disinvite me from their March, 2010 meeting in Minneapolis. They didn’t cow.
Well, it seems that Wood recently signed the Covenant for Civility: Come Let Us Reason Together, a statement initiated by Sojourners in the wake of Glen Beck’s ranting about “hammering” Jim Wallis. But now Wood has recanted, and is asking that his name be removed from the statement.
It seems, according to a statement of an Assemblies of God spokesperson, that when Wood signed the statement at a recent meeting of the National Association of Evangelicals, he thought that the phrase, “the unity we have in the body of Christ” referred exclusively to evangelicals. When he found out that “the body of Christ” also includes “people who are supportive of gay marriage and abortion rights,” well, that was just too large of a tent for him.
Over the past month, I’ve both requested help from the Pentecostal readers of this blog for assistance with my paper for the Society for Pentecostal Studies, and then posted that paper in several parts. All the while, I kept under wraps the controversy that surrounded my invitation to that group. I did so out of respect for my hosts.
However, Arlene Sánchez-Walsh has gone public with her feelings on the matter at Religion Dispatches. So now I’ll weigh in on the matter publicly.
But first, some background.
I don’t know that we’re far enough into this thing called emergence Christianity to proffer any definitive statements in the other direction, so I tender these suggestions humbly and tentatively.
First, while Pentecostals have, as I said, excelled at listening to the voice of God open the scriptures, particularly to individuals, the emergent church has worked at listening to God’s voice in corporate environments. As my own community of faith, Solomon’s Porch in South Minneapolis, the weekly sermon is both prepared and presented communally, with contributions from those of us with PhDs to those us with GEDs. Every member of the community is considered an “expert,” albeit one is an expert in Greek or Hebrew and the other in lawn mower repair.
Yet there is a presupposition that all voices are valid and important. To put it another way, each individual believer is equally capable of being used by God’s Spirit and a vehicle of God’s truth. God’s ability to use an individual to speak truth the community is neither enhanced nor hindered by number of letters after one’s name, how much is in one’s bank account, or which set of genitalia one has.
It seems to me that this egalitarian sense of God’s activity among humans, this “communal hermeneutic” would resonate among Pentecostals and would even hearken back to the early days of your movement.
It’s on this very point that I’d like to suggest that emergents can learn from Pentecostals how to talk about the Spirit of God. In yesterday’s theology session on the emergent church, there was much talk about the need for emergents to develop a “robust pneumatology.” I agree, in part. For I think that emergents have a robust pneumatology, but I don’t think that we’re very good at talking about it.
As I argue in The New Christians, I think that most American Christians are “binitarians.” That is, while they profess a belief in all three persons of the Trinity, their practice of the faith betrays that the Father matters to them, and so does the Son, but the Spirit is an afterthought. As reflected in hymnody and praise songs, sermon titles and prayers, the Spirit gets far less than one-third of the time in the spotlight in most churches.
I think that emergents know, in our guts, that the Holy Spirit needs to make a comeback in our churches. But we’ll need some brothers and sisters in Christ to show us the way. I ask you who are Pentecostal and Charismatic to help us in that way. Give us guidance in putting words on and legs to that pneumatology that lies latent within our movement. I do believe that you will find willing dialogue partners in this endeavor.
In any version of Christianity, certain things bind the persons who affiliate with that variety together. For some, it is ethnic heritage, and for others, a certain confessional stance. Most emanate from a particular individual, or, in the case of Pentecostalism, a particular event.
The emergent movement has no such genesis, and no such confessional glue. Within emergent, you’ll find Southern Baptist preachers and lesbian Episcopal priests, Missouri Synod Lutherans and Quakers. For what binds emergents is not unlike what binds Pentecostals – it’s an ethos, a posture. In fact, I might describe it as a posture of openness to the movement of God’s Spirit in the world.
Thus, you could walk into a United Methodist Church with the an organist and choir and a minister in alb and stole, and stroll down the street to a Vineyard assembly with a rock band and a preacher wearing shorts, and each could self-identify as emergent. Why is that? What in God’s name do these churches have in common?
Getting one’s arms around the emergent church is no mean feat – indeed, I believe that the same may be said about Pentecostalism. In a sense, the genesis of the emergent movement was the disenfranchisement of GenX evangelicals in the 1990s. But in another sense, of course, the Bride of Christ is always emerging. It is, as Brian McLaren has written, better referred to as “the church emerging” than “the emerging church.”
Further, those of us involved in the emergence Christianity have a particular antipathy toward rubrics, labels, and categorizations. They seem to us convenient ways of boxing someone in, which all too often leads to writing someone off.
Please allow me a tangent: Was Thomas Aquinas a “liberal” or a “conservative”? Well, we might at first paint him a conservative, for he rescued orthodox Christianity from a particularly stagnant period by recovering – i.e., conserving – scripture and tradition. But how did he do that? By entering into a thoroughgoing dialogue with the Aristotelian philosophy of medieval Islam. I daresay that if a theologian today were to admit that he or she was dipping into the wells of Muslim philosophy in order undergird Christian theology, that theologian would be condemned as having slipped off the slippery slope.
My point is that the question, Was Thomas a conservative or a liberal? is nonsensical, because “liberalism” and “conservatism” are modern categories, linked to modern (read, analytic) philosophical presuppositions. If I can make the point even more strongly, they are not theological categories. Thomas was not a liberal or a conservative, Paul was not a liberal or a conservative, Jesus was not a liberal or a conservative. And, if I may be so bold, I am not a liberal or a conservative. Those non-theological categories become less helpful each day. I suggest we stop using them. OK, end of tangent.

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