If you put some teenage girls together with an Ouija board, guess what you get?
That’s right — demonic possession!!! Bring in the African Witch Hunter Priests, there’s some demons to exorcise!
I suppose it could just be a very suggestible girl, but that’s kind of a let down and not very exciting.
“Oooh! *squeeeal* *OMG! OMFSM! *shriek*”
Yes, a bit of a letdown.
I suppose you had to be there.
Yes, spiritual encounters are in your head.
What were they calling her? L’sard?
M’kay.
I thought it was R’Tard.
I’ll bet it was French: “le Tard”
The account hosting it is for fictional horror, they’re acting on purpose.
People still do believe in it, the comments on the video make that pretty clear. It’s depressing that people are still superstitious in this day and age.
I want to say it was the Mythbusters who debunked Ouija board. They tested it by blindfolding people and turning the board around without telling them and the people’s hands still went to where they thought the answer was.
Penn & Teller, actually. But close.
Reminds me of my preteen years, a group of us went to a graveyard looking for ghosts. Pretty scary and were glad we didn’t see any.
Pity you didn’t visit the same graveyard we used to visit when I was a teen. We used to put bits of reflective tape on strategic places on the monuments (such as the eyes of statues, etc.). This gave passing motorists quite a start. Many screeching brakes, followed by burning rubber as the car peeled out!
Im gonna have to try that one.
Just be sure not to do it where there is a busy road! Our local graveyard was off a back street that had few cars at night. But it was on a curve so car headlights would sweep across the headstones while making the turn.
I was thinking a few statues and tree braches in a park by the CBD, or in the conservatory gardens
LOL!!! that’s BRILLIANT!
That graveyard sounds similar to one near here where I live. It is at an intersection and when a car turns right at the intersection the headlights will hit the taller gravestones making it look like a ghost is moving though it. When we were younger, just getting our licenses, we would get young kids that didn’t know about it in the cars to see how much we could scare them.
DDM;
It was Penn and Teller on an episode of BS that debunked the Ouija board in the precise manner you detail, as I recall. I think I even have the episode on DVD, but I’m too lazy to get out of my chair right now.
Penn and Teller? That would explain why I couldn’t find anything on the Mythbusters search I did of it.
When I was in basic training, the barracks beside ours were used for the cadets in summer camp. One night–actually about one in the morning, we were awakened by godawful shrieking. A group of teen girls had been playing with an ouija board and were completely freaking out.
When the ambulance arrived they fed the hyperventilating little brats oxygen for about ten minutes. In chatting with one of the medics, I discovered that they usually got at least two calls a year for exactly the same thing. It occurred to me that telling the kids that beforehand might have defused the situation.
Methinks that one of the other girls asking demon-girl ‘Have you taken your meds?’ might explain all this.
If this is not acted, it’s clearly the power of suggestion. There is nothing supernatural indicated at all. Our minds can create amazing things. Ever hear of false pregnancy? It’s where women who really believe they are pregnant actually have physical symptoms of being pregnant. This is the power of the mind. Check out this New York Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/05/health/05pseud.html. Kind of lays to waste anecdotal “spiritual” experiences doesn’t it???
Thanks for the NYT link. That’s a nice piece, and it does a great job (without trying) at pointing to just how powerful the brain’s chemistry is on an individual’s perceptual reality. Considering what we know of the “spiritual” center of the brain and it’s reaction to stimulation, its ability to convincingly create the sense that “someone is there”, at the very least–in light of what we see in false pregnancies–it should raise questions in the minds of people who previously thought the only explanation for such a sense was that someone (i.e., “God”) was in fact “there”.
Well said James. Thanx.
Note to anyone wanting to fake a believable Ouija board stunt: the pointer should move very slowly, so that its movement could be attributed to a daemon subtly acting through the human participants. Rocketing the thing around from letter to letter is a sure giveway of cheating. So is not having the participants be blindfolded.
You mean there is a right way to do ouija??
Let’s just say some fakes are more plausible than others.
Definitely staged, although not necessarily acted. The camera work is way to stable, giving such a nice view of the girl, remembering to zoom in on her sad face at the end. No real-life teen would keep filming like that. But perhaps everyone involved knew the girl was easily affected by mise-en-scene and so was not acting in the sense of faking.
i will not watch this video. i can not tell you if it is true or not. but i do believe demons possess people i have experience it myself but not like the video shows i am sure. Once they enter you you become ill they try to open your third eye. you start to see it. the try to get you to open it conpletly. do not do this it is forbidden in the bible and for good reason it is the 666!
actually the earliest copy of the book of revelations has the number as 616.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast
The number of the beats!
the mark
whatever the number is it is the mark in the middle of the forehead. the mark of the beast.
But the Bible is the inerrant word of god,
if we can’t trust whether the number of the beast is 666 or 616 then how do we know that Jesus was casting out demons, not curing psychological disorders or just convincing the person that they were healed for long enough for observers to ooh and ahh then get out of there before the placebo effect wore off.
this opens the ability for you to see things in the 5th demention things we as humans are not ready to see. Things GOD warns us not to see for good reason. To protect us from the evil that can enter through the third eye.
yeah– you might wanna go ahead and go in for a psych eval
the penial gland it opens that part of the brain.
Research like this?
Just like everything else it religion, it’s an example of the supernatural being used to explain the not yet understood features of the natural, then not exiting when a natural, evidence based explanation is found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland
thanks Joe for having my back
I don’t think you understand what he is saying.
Wrong.
http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/otherendo/pineal.html
The pineal gland is involved in circadian rhythms and nothing more.
but yet you choose to believe this human doctor that wrote this. but not the bible and not God?
I believe the EVIDENCE. Key word here. Evidence. There is scientific evidence that backs up with the doctor says. There is no evidence that backs up what the bible says.
let me tell you i work in the medical field they are only still people with there thoughts just like you and me.
Well, I work in the scientific field (molecular biology/neuroscience), and if you make a claim there you are expected to back it up with evidence.
if you want evidence open your third eye but be prepared to deal with the problems it will cause when you do. because you do not have enough faith to deal with it!!!!!!!
oh- ok then. LOL!
oh noes LRA, the demons are going to get you through your pineal gland.
I sincerely hope that your work does not include dispensing medical advice or care to other humans.
Because she has the love and compassion of God…she would make for an awesome caregiver indeed.
So when she prescribes exorcism for an epileptic you’ll be all good with it?
*I* believe!
“Old Mother Hubbard” is the true word. The cupboard is your heart. And when you feel an aching heart, don’t you just want to find a juicy bone there?
I was once like you, illiterate, impressionable by whatever myths were around me, with poor reasoning capacity.
But I tell you, there is a bone-shaped hole inside everyone’s heart, and only that bone will fit. How can you believe all those doctors and bible stuff, and not Old Mother Hubbard’s word?
She’s right, the pineal gland, the almond. She is in the spirit, not the flesh, knows about the other realms, knows of the deeper things of the spirit.
Evidence?
John C, I didn’t think your soft and fuzzy (both in concepts and in the comforting sense) beliefs contained demons.
there was a time in my life i would not believe about demons too but now i see the world in a new light.
Because your heroin addicted friend didn’t want to be preached at then you got sick and had some odd dreams?
When I was little I got sick and dreamed that I was running through my house and there was a weight being shifted onto my back which I had to carry, heavier and heavier, then I woke up. It must have been Atlas revealing himself to me. Now I believe in the Greek pantheon.
i can go into more details for you later if you wish. but i for now i have to go to work chat later ok
Did switching from one time in your life to the other involve stopping your medication?
Yes, they are real, but not so powerful as she describes. This is common with young, excited believers who have seen into the realm of the spirit for the first time. After a while we realize we have been given all authority, all dominion and so they seem much less threatening in contrast to the mature believer in Christ.
So, is the invisible pink unicorn a demon? How about the flying purple people eater? Surely he’s a demon. I mean, he eats people.
So again, not only do you know more about what she is thinking than she does.. but you are right and she is wrong because she does not believe and behave exactly the way you do.
What a lying sack of shit you are.
you hit the nail on the head John well done
you do not have to believe me that is your free will. do the research on your own but believe me on one thing do not atempt to open it because it is only faith and FAITH alone that can save you from fully opening it completely. it is there. everyone has one even you
Any guide to open it? I don’t expect that will be like opening a can. Being curious here…
good point do you ever think what happened to those pepole in the psyc wards?
they were locked up for not knowing how to use the reply button
haha, lol
the bible has been copyed many times even when you write something you misspell but the base of the storys are true
So the Bible is a translation of a translation of a copy of a translation of a copy of a copy, and this makes it both less true because it’s been recopied so much, and more true because it’s old?
Fairy tales.
that is why the dead sea scrolls are so important because it proves that the true words have not been changed look it up bro if you want proof of God look At the nation of Israel They are proof of God. because without there God there would be no Israel they are surrounded by nations that hate them. it has been this way for a very long time. why is that so many people have tried to kill all the jews but never can, hitler for one. and how is it possible for such a small nation like Israel to survive so many defeats throughout its history and for its indigenous population to return back and revive the dead language of hebrew after 2 thousand years and be one of the strongest nations in modern times. this is surely the work of A living God. what other God does this for his people. I am not Jewish but i believe in the God of the Jews and i believe that Jesus was the Messiah and i believe that God keeps his promise to the jews. please look this stuff up if you think im lying i wouldn’t want anyone to believe what they read from someone on the internet without actualy researching it for themselves.
If you going to raise a tread that was dead for 2 years you should at least make the effort of coming with some new material instead of just vomiting the same stupid lines for the umpteenth time. None of the things you mentioned require a supernatural explanation and you claiming it does is not going to change that.
1) The Dead-Sea Scrolls aren’t carbon copies of any current or historical version of the Bible. You’re wrong.
2) Israel thrives because the USA gives them lots of money and weapons, including nukes.
3) The “God of the Jews” didn’t even exist as a fictional character until a couple of other Gods from earlier, polytheistic versions of Judaism were merged together.
4) You really are very stupid.
http://www.torah-code.org/controversy/THE_ACCURACY_OF_OUR_WRITTEN_TORAH.pdf
thats geek cause your wrong deg
I’ll try to avoid long complicated words so you can follow. Even if you could prove that the text of the torah has been copied without a single error it would not prove a supernatural source only that people were very careful when copying. The whole letter jumping code have been so thoughtfully debunked so many times I’m not even going to bother with that.
From your link (emphasis added):
The destruction of the first Beit ha’Mikdash most likely brought with it the destruction of these proof texts. Ezra the Scribe, who led the people back to Eretz Yisrael and began to rebuild the Beit ha’Mikdash, set to reestablishing a proof text. At this point, a defining event occurred. According to the Talmud Yerushalmi (Ta’anit 4:2), three ancient scrolls were found in the Temple confines which had slightly variant texts. (Although the Yerushalmi does not specify when this occurred, other sources relate that it happened in the days of Ezra and according to some versions it was Ezra himself who found the scrolls – see Torah Sheleimah, Shemot 24:25.) The Yerushalmi then relates that the correct version of the Torah was determined by virtue of a majority of 2 against 1.
It’s also been translated many times to reach it’s current form.
You ever played with an online translator running a sentence through to another language or two then back to English? Words don’t have exact equivalents which leads to interpretation influencing the actual text. The concept of the trinity (look up Council of Nicaea) and the virgin birth (the word translated to virgin in English is more equivalent to “maiden” which is much more ambiguous about Mary’s sexual history)
if you have not been in that crossroad of life you will always have that dought in the back of your mine. Do you ever wander why some people are so religous and not others
because not everyone is intelligent, and not everyone that’s intelligent is rational and not everyone that’s intelligent and rational is ready to stand up to social pressure and give up comforting supernatural beliefs.
Do you ever wonder why peoples religion seems to be based on geography?
If a single word is translated wrong it can completely change the whole meaning of a verse or even several verses. Look at the many different translations out here and you find that several verses have completely different meanings depending on the version you read.
and what is your replay button may i ask
you see the little green “reply” in the lower right corner of your comment… that’s the reply button
give me a minute, I’m drawing her a picture. That should work.
Here we go
i may know of faith but only a little of computers
Well, you should open your Machine Eye and then you will Know. I’ve been doing that for a while now and I can write in the computer without my hands. In fact, that message is a proof of it.
if you recall i did not open my third eye fully. they say you can open it two ways one is meditation. they say it will take four days to fully open that way. have you ever tried yoga?
Meditation and abstinence or only meditation?
Is meditation try not to think about anything, or is it sitting and thinking?
Tammy – I do yoga and I also meditate. When I was growing up, my parents were very against any kind of meditation because they said the devil would come in. Now I realize that this was a ploy for religion to keep people from getting in touch with their deeper self. Meditation and yoga are extremely healthy and it’s given me a lot of peace. No devils came, and I guess my third eye is wide open! This is superstitious nonsense.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
are you saying the bible could be a translation problem?
translation is the least of the bible’s problems…
what is your point.
in addition to issues with translation, the bible also contains gross logical errors, records vile and violent acts like rape and genocide as commanded from god, and expects people to become like sheep.
look at the eye on the dollar bill above the pyrmid. look at the eye in on the pharophs walls (let my people go) it is the same eye. in eygpt.
sorry never was one for spelling
thanks guys i got it now reply
GOD is about unconditional love. to have true faith you have to have this for your fellow people. check out near death experiences
Near death experiences are scientifically explainable:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18958261?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
If your god is about unconditional love, why are there so many conditions to the so call love? Unconditional love is a no strings attached love and no matter what you do the love will still be there. I don’t see claiming that your god will send people to burn in hell as love. I see that as hate and only something truly evil would see it as a form of love.
my GOD does not send them there you see the choice is yours he gave you that freewill. so don’t blame him for your decisions
love me or I will torture you.
That’s not love, it’s obsession.
did you just not read my statement or did it just not sink in.
You don’t get a free pass here by using free will. The fact is that unconditional love is just that– it’s *unconditional*, so saying that you must love god or go to hell puts a condition on it. Therefore, god’s love is *not* unconditional. If it was truly unconditional, god would say, love me and get the rewards of my relationship with you. Don’t love me and nothing will happen to you.
If god created everything, and is all-powerful, he also created the devil and hell. If he really existed in this form, he would be able to forgive people for their “sins”. Instead, religion is a form of brainwashing that frightens people for thinking. It’s like george orwell’s 1984 – “thought-crime”. It’s a way to keep people submissive and in line, so it has a social function for the people in power (who until recently were usually clergy / the church). Of course they didn’t want people thinking for themselves- that would create a free and uncontrollable population. I’ve said this before – god of the bible is just like my abusive ex-husband. Jealous, love only him (more than anyone else), reject your family for me, violent, unpredictable, if you leave me I will kill you. What kind of sick “love” is this, and how do people like you still fall for this.
…or logic.
Tammy:
http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50326816/Wing_Nut_Sets.jpg
i hope you all experience a crossroad like i have and then choose the right road to follow.
I did, and I chose the road of reason.
ok road of reason what do your doctors say where the soul goes when you die. I have never heard a doctors answer to that.
The soul does not exist. Have you ever heard any scientific proof of the existence of the soul at all?
You sound like you are in desperate need of an education. Were you home schooled?
You mean you hope that we all experience a crisis and, in the absence of rational thinking, choose to follow an imaginary sky friend because we’re afraid that the fairy tales of an imaginary underworld fiend who seems to be ridiculously preoccupied with carbon-based life forms are true?
No, thanks.
There are no translation problems in the Spirit.
so which number is of the beast? What does the Spirit tell you?
they tell me you will not believe a word i say. You will ony play devils avacate with me. That you believe it or not. I cannot change your minds. you will only have to experience it on your own. i am not special i was just like you once.
If I told you I was president of the US would you believe me? Why not? They said you wouldn’t believe me.
THERE WILL BE DOUBTERS
BUT THE CHURCH OF JOE B IS THE ONE TRUE FAITH.
Info
lra i surly would not believe you unless you had scientific evidence!
all right! now we’re talkin’! just take that approach and apply it elsewhere. :)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Exactly! Does the dim begin to light up with a feeble flicker of understanding why other people would not believe you?
i was just kidding with them i have experience my evidence. i will never change my faith. do any of you have any faith at all or is this a lets trash GOD site. not even a mustard seed of faith are in any of you deep in your heart. do you feel nothing at all?
Tammy– many of us are ex-christians. we were duped, just like you, but we applied our powers of reason and discovered that the bible, church, and religion in general lacks satisfactory answers to tough questions. Have you asked any tough questions of your religion? Have you thought through the things you have been told?
Do you really believe the stories in the Old Testament? A talking snake? A worldwide flood? Really?
How about the New Testament? A guy rising from the dead? Water to wine? A beast and whore and bodies 7 feet deep? Really?
Look around you. Have you ever seen anything even remotely similar to any of the bible’s most fanciful claims? No– your life is just as mundane as everyone else’s. Yet you believe in magical things that you have never seen. How silly.
Nope. Closed mind (what there is of it) is slammed shut, and not a very sharp mind, apparently, from the low quality of written communication.
Meaningless in, meaningless out.
i hope you are not replying to me because i only have love for ya!
later got to go lol
Once it happened as I lay awake at night, that I suddenly spoke in verses. In verses so beautiful and strange that I did not venture to think of writing them down, and then in the morning they vanished; and yet they lay hidden within me like a hard kernel within an old brittle husk. Once it came to me while reading a poet; while pondering a thought of Descartes, of Pascal; again it shone out and drove its golden track far into the sky while I was in the presence of my beloved. Ah, but it is hard to find this track of the divine in the midst of this life we lead, in this besotted humdrum age of spiritual blindness, with its architecture, its business, its politics, its men!
We have to stumble through so much dirt and humbug before we reach home. And we have no one to guide us. Our only guide is our homesickness.
”Steppenwolf” by Hermann Hesse – 1929
In that phase just before falling asleep, once I proved a mathematical conjecture… a pity it was onlly an illusion of my mind. A pity some people doesn’t distinguish between reality and dreams.
i asure you my little friend i know the differance.
21 onces
Surely you are referencing the “weight of the soul” myth here, but you need to cite your sources so that we can properly analyze your “fact”.
I am not that computer saby can you show me
You’ll need to list the source of your claim that the soul weighs 21 ounces (although I heard it was 21 grams) by telling us the author and the title of the article to which you are referring.
If you find it on the internet, you can just copy and paste the http into the comment here. It will automatically create a link for us to follow and read for ourselves.
Debunked?
http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp
That is a myth, Tammy. Want to be absolutely certain it is untrue? Consider how many doctors there are in the world, and consider how many of those doctors are interested in souls and whether they exist and have weight. Those doctors, all over the world believing in all kinds of religions, would be measuring that ’21 gram soul’ quite often if they tried. Why oh why isn’t anyone checking that? Surely there are doctors that believe in your particular religion, are they totally uninterested in measuring the weight of the human soul.. or do you now start to wonder if you were lied to?
When you start to realize how many lies you have been fed, you will begin to find a way to search out the truth.
theres some math you should look into
Math that illustrates your point? By all means, let’s see it.
She’s probably referring to a form of Gematria.
Why not. She’s already covered demons, Noah’s Ark, and her third eye. Throwing in some Kabbalism would complete the picture.
we do not see dust mtes with the human eye but they are there. and there is evidence of the bible once agian DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
We DO see dust mites with the human eye– using a microscope. And I HAVE done my homework, but after years of trying, I got no where. That’s because religion is the antithesis of reason. I choose reason, lest I babble on about invisible, unprovable, meaningless, empty concepts that are merely the results of the synthesis of previous experience rehashed onto some imaginary entity.
For that analogy to work, the dust mites would have to take on spiritual form.
Do spiritual dust mites go to heaven?
you can start with Noah’s ark
you all think you know it all we have not even dicovered all the species on this planet. they your evidence you still have alot to learn.
“you can start with Noah’s ark”
“you all think you know it all we have not even dicovered all the species on this planet. they your evidence you still have alot to learn.”
And you see no contradiction in these two statements? Really???
i’m not here for an english test not my best subject science is
I recognize and am sensitive to that. I’m talking about the statements themselves. Noah was said to have collected two of every animal and put them on the arc. Yet you say we haven’t even discovered all the species yet.
That is the contradiction.
how do you know they all were not there even the ones we do not know.
Because, Tammy, we have thousands of scientists across the entire globe that have worked on or are currently working on finding new animals for at least 150 years. You’re going to tell me that one man found all of the species from all over the world and put these millions of species on a little boat? You must apply reason here. Noah couldn’t possibly have collected just the insect species alone, let alone all of the other land dwelling animals. How would he feed them? Elephants eat hundreds of pounds of food a day (300-600 lbs!) and where would Noah store such a thing? It is just not reasonable. Think about it.
Now I am a huge sceptic on this as well. I have tried to think of many ways this could even be possible. From a boat bigger than we have even built in modern times to e.t’s and D.N.A samples of animal species… and the last one seems the MOST plosible at this point. I used to go to church hoping I could belive in what they did but I couldn’t see how 90% of what was writen was true. How ever to do belive in ghosts and deamons or what ever you want to call them how ever I know some may find that to be a contrediction to everything I have just said. But I go off of what I have seen and experienced and that is all. I am twenty years old and do not belive in the fairy tails being told in an old book. I am a sceptic and I want to see it, hear it, feel it or capture some kind of evidence. Beliving that a man in the sky can deturman weather you are loved or damned to hell is just childish and though there may be some “evidence” of the bibles writings its hardlyy enough to call it relivent.
Please excuse the bad typing. I have been up for about 24 hrs now due to moving into a new place and not yet feeling settled.
..and how could Noah avoid some animals eating the others?
What happened with the plants? A lot of species would die after 40 days under the water.
And there is not enough water on the world to cover the surface. Where did that water came from and where did it go after the flood?
Psssh! An omnipotent being who could create the universe in the first place certainly wouldn’t have any trouble whipping up a little extra water, or disposing of it again once it was done with it.
Scientists are able to, and are often required to, communicate well,and precisely, in both written and spoken communication. Although there are different types of intelligence, I’ve still seen that people with a reasonable modicum of intelligence are usually able to communicate.
You don’t communicate clearly, and I think underneath that, you are unable to think clearly. I highly doubt that you are proficient in any science, either.
When we try to look past spelling mistakes with reasoning, oh my…
Time to do your homework. i have to go to the store but, i will be back. don’t miss me lol
the bible takes in medaphors. the beast with all the heads they say represents countrys. This is one way it is looked at but you all are ex-christians. what made you change.
Well, then I guess you are only metaphorically saved then.
lar what happens to you when you die. you feel nothing anymore? Do you believe in the magnetic force field.
I don’t know what happens when I die. But since I can’t do anything about it, I’m going to live.
The magnetic field is detectable by physical means and is explainable by the behavior of electrons. It is a physical phenomenon, not a spiritual one.
do you believe in other life forms?
Other life forms? There are millions of life forms on this planet. If you mean aliens, I admit to the possibility of their existence, but I reserve judgment until we actually find alien life.
do you believe in anything you do not see?
That’s a complicated question, but the basic answer is no. I believe knowledge comes from sense experience.
so the bottom line is if what you are saying is true no God, no afterlife then i rather live believing even if i were wrong. What kind of life would i live with no hope. no tomorrow only death not a very happy or positive thought is it.
You’re satisfied believing a lie. Fine. I’m not. It takes a brave person to face the future without the possibility of god. It takes a brave person to discover meaning in her own life on her own terms. Meaning can be derived from lots of places, not just from some vague promise of an after life that may or may not happen:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/life-meaning/
I challenge you to question and to think. I challenge you not to be satisfied with that which is unreasonable. I challenge you to develop the courage to face our smallness and our temporal condition and use these realizations to live fully.
And to act responsibly in the real world. The biggest problem with Pascal’s Wager is the way in which it distorts believer’s actions. There are immoral consequences to unreasonable faith.
I don’t know, curl up in a ball and cry all the time if you want. Whatever it is you do that makes you happy now, except posting every tidbit of nonsense that flies off your brain every moment. Try to be more coherent. GOD FAVORS THE COHERENT.
No belief in a god does not automatically equal no hope for life.
There was a thread on this a while back that you should probably take a look at:
How Do Atheists Face Despair?
Hey Tammy, could you consolidate all your crazy into one post? Seriously, three posts in as many minutes?
I’ve taken to calling her “Spammy.”
I just think she doesn’t know about blogs. It takes a little time to learn blog etiquette.
It’s not even really clear she knows what kind of blog this is. I think she thinks we’re just talking about demons.
Bad troll.
I got a Poe vibe from the combo of crazy rhetoric plus the friendliness of the responses to my pretty hostile replies.
Poe is a possibility– but naive is an even greater possibility.
But notice something please, yes Tammy is naive, innocent, trusting, and these are the very same childlike qualities that Jesus said would take us into His kingdom. And what has been the result? The spirit led life of joy, excitement, wonder and LIFE! Many of you will say delusion but I could tell she was in the spirit, young and fervant.
There is a lesson in this to be learned, if anyone has ears to hear.
While those qualities can be good, also note that christian bible and other writing like to encourage immaturity, naivete, trust, being childlike (“3 Ways Christianity Encourages Immaturity, anyone?) because that is exactly the pliable, impressionable personality who can be molded and controlled, the kind of personality that makes great sheep and followers in an institution.
Come to mention it, christianity loves the “sheep” analogy too.
Claid…
But when its truly God that you “blindly trust” and not some man, you find that He is utterly trustworthy and has our best interests at heart, as a Father would, even a perfect Father. Kinda takes all the worry out of it when you know what He is really like.
GOD, JUST DO IT.
Anyone with some photoshop skills want to make a swoosh-cross?
“as a Father would”
and then you grew up, and you learned that your father is not operfect, but human.
How can you thrust God, if he doesn’t answer the phone? You have to thrust people who claim are speaking in his name… I’d rather think for myself
JC- My life is filled with “joy, excitement, [and] wonder” as you call it. Our world and our universe is endlessly fascinating. Human beings and the human condition are endlessly fascinating. To imply otherwise diminishes the “joy, excitement, [and] wonder” that is here and now, waiting to be explored… all for the possibility of some unknowable afterlife.
John C, you are so full of (sh)it.
ok then all name calling aside. I appreciate chatting with you even though we do not agree. I agree to disagree. My english and spelling is not great i know but, my heart is true and my life is great. I may only be silly and crazy and stuipid in your eye but in all good terms you are not the ones i’m here to impress so i’ll move on. I wish you all luck in life. i know not everyone does not sees things like i do and thats ok. talking to you guys has only brought a negative feeling in me. I cannot take the Tammy bashing any longer. I need to find another place where people believe my story. People that have good things to say about Tammy, possitive people in my life. I know you thought you were bringing light in my life but you only brought me darkness. It still was an experience to talk to you good luck and good bye Tammy.
“I need to find another place where people believe my story.”
You might try someplace that’s not a blog for atheists and skeptics. Bye.
Don’t let the electronic doorknob hit you on the way out…
“electronic doorknob” thats a good one, funny Roger.
You came here thinking you had something to show how atheist are wrong and that they would flock to your god upon hearing your story. When you didn’t get that positive reinforcement you were looking for you felt rejected. You have no reason to leave other then your own fear of being shown to be wrong. I would say if you are only looking for people willing to believe anything you say then yes you are in the wrong place. Most of the people that comment here want evidence not just words.
>>> I wish you all luck in life. i know not everyone does not sees things like i do and thats ok. <<<
Luck, just like Jesus, is a subject to which I do not subscribe… but thanks for “wishing” for me… I suspect it will have the same dynamic impact that “praying for me” has had.
For future reference.. when hearing the truth makes you feel bad about your beliefs, that means that your beliefs are untrue. Imagine how much easier life is when you just drop the supernatural element.
Well, I’m sorry if I made you feel bad, but you Christians have set out to make me feel bad, and I say turn about is fair play.