In an interview with the BBC, the group’s leader, Mohammed Yusuf, said such education “spoils the belief in one God”.
“There are prominent Islamic preachers who have seen and understood that the present Western-style education is mixed with issues that run contrary to our beliefs in Islam,” he said.
“Like rain. We believe it is a creation of God rather than an evaporation caused by the sun that condenses and becomes rain.
Yeah, it is a similar mindset (though at least the concept of rain is easier to understand.) And you’d hope any YEC’er who thinks rejecting “rain theory” is silly might reexamine their own biases against science.
Mmm.. Intelligent Raining…Yes, rain is the condensation of evapored water but, wich are the chances for raining precisely here and now, when we need it for our weeds? It HAS to be guided by an intelligent being.
How does it sounds?
Well, Mohammed Yusuf is dead now, so I guess we won’t be blessed with his extensive rain studies or his conflict solving skills which included firebombing churces and police stations.
I enjoy these videos, thanks for posting. I’m sure the standby response here is that the cultural context explains why a story like The Good Samaritan was necessary, but clearly that falls flat if you think about it for even a moment. Why didn’t Jesus try to dispel the entire notion of prejudice, instead of using a parable to show that even “those awful people” can be good, and even your own people can be bad?
It’s the same issue with slavery in the bible. I believe there are bits about Jesus advising fair treatment of slaves, or something along those lines, when he should have been working tirelessly to abolish the deplorable practice altogether.
Paul ordered servants to remain servants, because in the next live… It’s not that they didn’t do anything to abolish slavery, it’s worse…slaves would have been always slaves if they had followed christian’s teachings
I was about to make the same point (your first one) Toby. While what Jesus had argued was not itself bad, it shows that there is a way to perfect on what he said, which is an argument against his claims to divinity. If we want to be serious about Divine revelation, especially from the J-Man himself, it’s gotta be the best formulation possible and not “culturally limited” to “what the people at the time” could recognize and understand.
This highlights my main issue with Christianity. Everything in the bible makes sense if you view it as the work of primitive societies. It’s when I try to account for God that things fall apart.
Yes, Jesus was a racist. Glenn Beck told me so.
Now now now…. He wasn’t saying that Jesus didn’t like Samaritans
OT – here’s one I haven’t heard before. Religous folks who reject the scientific explanation of rain.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8172270.stm
In an interview with the BBC, the group’s leader, Mohammed Yusuf, said such education “spoils the belief in one God”.
“There are prominent Islamic preachers who have seen and understood that the present Western-style education is mixed with issues that run contrary to our beliefs in Islam,” he said.
“Like rain. We believe it is a creation of God rather than an evaporation caused by the sun that condenses and becomes rain.
Is that really any sillier than not believing in evolution, which has even more mountains of evidence to support it than our theory of rain formation?
Yeah, it is a similar mindset (though at least the concept of rain is easier to understand.) And you’d hope any YEC’er who thinks rejecting “rain theory” is silly might reexamine their own biases against science.
Do they also use nude girls to make it rain then?
If they aren’t stupid they do.
Mmm.. Intelligent Raining…Yes, rain is the condensation of evapored water but, wich are the chances for raining precisely here and now, when we need it for our weeds? It HAS to be guided by an intelligent being.
How does it sounds?
Well, Mohammed Yusuf is dead now, so I guess we won’t be blessed with his extensive rain studies or his conflict solving skills which included firebombing churces and police stations.
Don’t know why but that reminded me of this old MadTV skit…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnq7N6X4x84
That was hilarious, thanks!
Don’t worry. He’ll be back.
I enjoy these videos, thanks for posting. I’m sure the standby response here is that the cultural context explains why a story like The Good Samaritan was necessary, but clearly that falls flat if you think about it for even a moment. Why didn’t Jesus try to dispel the entire notion of prejudice, instead of using a parable to show that even “those awful people” can be good, and even your own people can be bad?
It’s the same issue with slavery in the bible. I believe there are bits about Jesus advising fair treatment of slaves, or something along those lines, when he should have been working tirelessly to abolish the deplorable practice altogether.
Paul ordered servants to remain servants, because in the next live… It’s not that they didn’t do anything to abolish slavery, it’s worse…slaves would have been always slaves if they had followed christian’s teachings
I was about to make the same point (your first one) Toby. While what Jesus had argued was not itself bad, it shows that there is a way to perfect on what he said, which is an argument against his claims to divinity. If we want to be serious about Divine revelation, especially from the J-Man himself, it’s gotta be the best formulation possible and not “culturally limited” to “what the people at the time” could recognize and understand.
This highlights my main issue with Christianity. Everything in the bible makes sense if you view it as the work of primitive societies. It’s when I try to account for God that things fall apart.
Or they’ll argue it wasn’t really slavery, but just a form of labor like servitude.