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I want this so badly to be Poe.
I can do MAGIC!? CURSE people!? Why has no one told me this? And why is the world not yet in chaos because of this?
A POX ON THEM.
There, that’ll fix it.
Harry Potter encourages children to hide under their bedsheets playing with their wands. Of course it’s of the devil.
Seriously, though, I have actually heard parents talk of their great concern at things like Buffy and Harry Potter teaching youngsters (mostly young girls) that witchcraft is cool and leading them to hang out in the supposed occult section of Borders, learning spells and becoming possessed. It seems the grown adults are the ones who are getting dangerously carried away after reading fairy stories.
“…Wands, Robes, Owls, Latin words…”
Hysterical. Also, calling it “beautifully written” had me giggling. Yeah right.
I’m 95% sure that particular video is a Poe, but I personally know people who hold that kind of opinion.
When she said ‘Latin Words” I just about choked. Catholic Mass anyone?
Confused, Ill be your 5%. I know people who are really that crazy about witches. I’d put $20 on the ‘This is the real deal’ spot.
Seems stupid enough that it should be fake, but having come from a church where this sort of thing is still taught as fact to large numbers of credulous people, I can almost guarantee this video is attempting to be serious. Although the bit about latin was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a while.
“Robes” and “Latin Words”? Where else do we find these? Hmmmm…
Wherever it is, it sounds like it’s probably dangerous to children…
LOL! Win for John M White :D
Latin words!?!?! The horror!!! Its worse than I thought.
So when witchcraft magic and prayer clash, which one wins out?
I like to joke that I became an atheist because I read all 7 Harry Potter books last summer. Unfortunately, some people would think that really explains what happened. Actually, I think it had more to do with the logic books I read. But that’s just me.
I could hardly stop laughing. That posh accent was just precious.
Be respectful! That’s Princess Di you’re laughing at, and we all know she would never do anything naughty.
Wait, let’s do some logic:
Latin words are evil. The Bible was and remains available in Latin. Therefore, the Bible is evil.
*Whew* I went to the YouTube site to see if it was put out by The Onion. It wasn’t, but the “owner” of the YouTube site has some pretty goofy other stuff. (I think the Onion’s better.)
However, I was getting riled because that wacky broad was saying things people really believe. And I have little doubt that those same have refused to read Harry Potter and don’t know about the ethics and high character demanded of the … well… the characters.
I wonder if people who think like this ever read HP fanfics. The hysterics would be awesome.
Bible slashfics. Imagine the potential…
Dude, there are Biblical slashfics; usually Jesus/Judas, or Jesus/Lucifer, or Jonathan/David. Check it out:
archive.skyehawke.com fanfiction.net – note that it has over 2000 stories!
Even better, I read once a Bible/Harry Potter crossover. Harry was the Antichrist, Voldemort was Jesus and Draco Malfoy was an angel. It has Harry/Devil crucifying Voldy/Christ, having buttsex with Draco/Angel on an altar, then carrying him to Hell xD It was kinda awesome for a fanfic.
Oh Em Gee. <== actual reaction.
How come the Harry Potter fanfics I read were never as insane-tastic?
Anyone know how to clean vomit out of your brain?
-passes the mindbleach-
Oh, trust me, it exists. … I mean – uh – wow, that’s crazy! What kind of weirdo would read that? Ahem.
One of my co-workers–I teach at a college, by the way–will not handle a Harry Potter book for fear of demonic possession. Apparently, the devil is transdermal. He lives in the dust jacket (or maybe the endpapers; my co-worker isn’t perfectly clear on this) and comes through your skin when you pick up the book. No word on whether a soft-cover printing is any less dangerous.
What if one of his students finish an exam with a quote from a Harry Potter’s book? Just being curious…
“Apparently, the devil is transdermal.”
Okay, this literally made me LOL.
BLOOD sacrifice? Satan? Spirits?
Hmm, which book are we talking about?
I agree, I have read every book and none of the above makes sense at all.
She’s so stupid, because those spells don’t work at all. Doesn’t matter how many times I yell “Lumos” coming into a room, the lights don’t turn on. And let me tell you, that aquamenti charm could have come in handy a time or to, but does it ever work? Nooooo.
/that was sarcasm, for any tards/
You need a wand. DUH!
Duh me! Maybe Alivan’s will have one that will work. ;)
“…and we know that there’s such a thing as possession because…” she’s read it in two different books now, and that proves it.
She must also be looking for the One Ring ;-)
I think she found her own One Ring and promptly stuck her head up it…
One Faith to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
If you read her website – it appears not to be a Poe – the woman is definitely clueless.
Well actually not, she’s doing the same thing as the crazy religious – puts fear into people so she can sell her books and lectures.
Snake oil salesperson without the snake oil.
Is she British or Australian or just an American who’s really shit at doing accents? Seriously, I have a good ear for accents, particularly those native to my home islands, and I don’t think she should be criticising anybody else for lying.
I’m an Aussie and she’s definitely not. Sounds British to me.
She does at first, and it’s not the worst accent I’ve ever heard – but there are points when it cracks and just sounds totally wrong.
Does everythingisterrible make their own videos, or do they just collect them?
You could probably substitute bible for “harry potter” and a few other changes and the video would be almost credible.
Clearly they have it wrong, but I think there may actually be something to religious folks’ concern over stories like Harry Potter. I grew up loving and reading a ton of fantasy, mythology and science fiction, and I think it may have helped me to see Christianity as the myth it is, along with the other religions of this world.
When you’re used to reading stories about magic that you know aren’t real, it’s tough to turn around and say “this magic man with the male groupies is the real thing.”
Christians concerned about this stuff actually believe in evil spirits and dark magic. Look at all of the books on spiritual warfare on the shelves of faith stores. I know someone who thinks she was once attacked by a demon in her own home – yikes.
“I grew up loving and reading a ton of fantasy, mythology and science fiction, and I think it may have helped me to see Christianity as the myth it is, along with the other religions of this world.”
This. It’s also why studying archaeology, anthropology and history wrecked my faith (and philosophy helped me put the pieces together) alongside comparative literature, because I saw the exact same patterns again and again, making Christianity anything but special. It’s actually kind of clumsy and quite unsatisfying compared to some myths of old and the stories our culture generates today. Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Harry Potter have far more solid internal consistency than the gospels.
Of course, these people would think Harry Potter could be that influential. After all, their beliefs are based on 2,000 year old literature!
I used to work for a christian radio station that played a program called “Point of View.” They used to (maybe still do) have an uptight old nut get on the show and tell the listeners in her best imitation of a British accent exactly how “wicked, wicked, wicked” Harry Potter was, for many of the same “reasons” outlined in this video. If POV is a Poe, they’re spending a lot of time and money on a very elaborate practical joke.
Heehee. I love EverythingIsTerrible. They find the juiciest bits of pure crazy.
If the video sounds more like a Poe than you’d expect, it’s probably because the craziest parts have been extracted and then edited together, with that great little EIT ditty tacked on the end.
Are Christians not secure enough in their own beliefs and religion and teachings? They sound like they’re scared little creatures who dare not even LOOK at that apple, for fear they might WANT to eat it and WILL eat it. Temptation is way too much for them. They’re too easily swayed, aren’t they?? For example, when they teach their children that stuff like Wicca and Harry Potter are “bad”, don’t they trust that their children will listen to them?
Their religion goes to great lengths to tell them they are wicked, sinful, weak wretches whose only hope of not getting a deserved eternal punishment is to believe some other guy took the heat for them all. I can see where this lack of confidence in the face of temptation comes from.
OMG people or so busy tryin to claim this movie or this book or this song is evil, yea for weak-minded people who read more into things than it is. If you are truly a child of God, you would have enough sense to know that fiction is fiction and fact is fact. I can’t stand when people blame television for the stupid mistakes they make. Nobody is holding a gun to the individual’s head and saying watch this and do it, the books/movies are strictly for entertainment. The main people causing such an uproar are hypocrites anyway. For instance, Conservative Republicans who think its ok to control people’s lives, but also believe in Free Enterprise and letting big business take advantage of hard-working people everyday (the history of the USA). What ever happened to treat others the way you want to be treated? It’s funny how people hold on to what they want to from the Living Word, and are quick to forget about other parts. Get over yourselves.
This is funny, how people come up with this stuff I have no clue. Thankfully I’m part of a christian denomination that actually makes sense and don’t believe nonsense like this.
“I’m part of a christian denomination that actually makes sense”
I’m sorry, but if you actually believe in the Zombie Jew thing, then you’re not. None of the myths that Christianity is founded on make sense – if your branch of Christianity follows any of them at all, then by definition it doesn’t make sense. If it doesn’t follow any of them, then by definition it’s not Christian. That’s kind of what “Christian” means: You believe the Jesus stories.
I’m not sure what you mean by Zombie Jew, as there is nothing in the Bible that talks about such. Could you give me the scripture reference?
By you saying that none of it makes sense and that you don’t believe in the New Testament I’m guessing your atheist? I and my church believe everything that is taught in the Bible though not all the traditional beliefs of Christianity. The three big ones being that my church does not believe that there can be nothing new (we believe in the need of addition scriptures, current revelation, current prophets, and current apostle as is clear with all the confuse and numerous christian branches), that one is only save by grace (we believe grace, faith, and works are all equally needed), and lastly we believe that the idea of the trinity is not correct and was made by a bunch of philosophers trying to make the idea of God and Jesus more ‘understandable’ (how I ask?) and acceptable in the eyes of others.
So you believe that God ordered mass murder and gang rapes, and you still think he’s a moral compass you should worship?
Actually no, there is much I do not condone that have been done (wait, gang rapes? Please explain). I do not agree with the crusaded, the inquisitions, or witch hunts. Nor the corruption of the leadership, or how at one point being the pope was political. Have you heard of Alexander VI? Exactly.
God has done no evil, men have done evil in his name.
Jonathon, you said:
“I and my church believe everything that is taught in the Bible”
I suggest you read Judges 21:10-24, Numbers 31:7-18, Deuteronomy 20:10-14, Deuteronomy 22:28-29, Deuteronomy 22:23-24, 2 Samuel 12:11-14, Deuteronomy 21:10-14, Judges 5:30, Exodus 21:7-1 and Zechariah 14:1-2. Then come back and protest about my assertion that your fictional God condones (and in some cases instructs) rape in the Bible.
Have you seriously never read the story of Lot?
I love it when I break theists’ brains. You know, I honestly think that Jonathon can’t see the post I’m replying to? If he actually responded to it, he’d have to admit that his holy book is a tome of vile, amoral filth – and he can’t do that.
You’re aware that jesus was a jew, don’t you. As for the zombie part, I think a vampire may be more accurate what with the whole deal of making new minions by having them drink of the master’s blood.
By you saying that none of it makes sense and that you don’t believe in the New Testament I’m guessing your atheist?
You know what site you’re on?
I and my church believe everything that is taught in the Bible though not all the traditional beliefs of Christianity. The three big ones being that my church does not believe that there can be nothing new (we believe in the need of addition scriptures, current revelation, current prophets, and current apostle as is clear with all the confuse and numerous christian branches), that one is only save by grace (we believe grace, faith, and works are all equally needed), and lastly we believe that the idea of the trinity is not correct and was made by a bunch of philosophers trying to make the idea of God and Jesus more ‘understandable’ (how I ask?) and acceptable in the eyes of others.
How do you choose which moronic tradition is true and which is not, how do you differentiate between a modern prophet and someone who’s just nuts.
“You’re aware that Jesus was a jew, don’t you. As for the zombie part, I think a vampire may be more accurate what with the whole deal of making new minions by having them drink of the master’s blood.” Yes I know he was a Jew and he usually acted like one, though he also opened the way to a different path then most Jews followed. Zombie or vampire, either fit. Your speaking the sacrament (or communion I think most all it), which is completely symbolic. Jesus told his follows to remember what he has done for them and the whole world, that his body was broken and his blood was spilled to break the bonds the advisory had over mankind. There was nothing remotely vampiric about Jesus or his teachings.
“You know what site you’re on?” I can guess, anyway I wasn’t planning on even talking about religion, what should have mattered is that I agree that to say Harry Potter is evil is stupid.
“How do you choose which moronic tradition is true and which is not, how do you differentiate between a modern prophet and someone who’s just nuts.” That I think that should be talked about in a different area, perhaps by email or in another thread as it would completely get even more off topic if we do it here. If you need to know, tell me and we can figure something. I am not here to talk to deeply about religion, as that is not why I first posted.
neither fit not either fit
That I think that should be talked about in a different area, perhaps by email or in another thread as it would completely get even more off topic if we do it here. If you need to know, tell me and we can figure something. I am not here to talk to deeply about religion, as that is not why I first posted.
Why don’t you start one on the forum, I’m sure everyone will be vary interested to hear what you have to say if it will be any different than the stuff we’ve been hearing from theists for years claiming some parts of the buybull should be read as metaphors and other taken literally but never being able to give a reason as to how do they know which is which.
For some reason posting under Jonathon Wilder stopped working, I think because I caused the topic to derail without meaning to. I will, as long as it is keep in good humor because I am not here to be treated poorly. I understand that everyone (or almost everyone here) will not agree with me and think i am foolish. Do you think it will be kept in good humor, as long as I keep completely away from evangelizing? Which I don’t think I have ever really done to be honest, maybe I just don’t understand the term.
If you look at some of the past debates on the forum like this one that then continued in this one you will see that people on this site will respond to your points with reasonable arguments. This doesn’t mean that bad arguments will be respected just because they’re based on religion.
Jonathon I need to refer you to this picture.
Actually it is a bit different as with Christianity there are results whereas with mythological gods and goddesses there has never been. Anyway, most Christians don’t worship the crucifix. So I don’t get the picture.
Actually it is a bit different as with Christianity there are results …
Do you have examples? (Not something that can be explained by natural causes, but actual examples of real results.)
How when on has asked God for aid and they are given it. How I can ask God any question, and get a personal real answer. How I have seen actual healing because of the priesthood power that could not be explained by the doctors in anyway. Being guided in a way that leads you to a place that you are needed to be. Blessings that actually happen as well as revelations that actually came to be. I have seen and experienced much that prove God is real. Things that cannot be explained away by others and make sense. One example being guided by the Spirit to visit a neighbor and when you get there you find out they had been praying for some help on a problem they are having.
Every other religion in history had made the same claims of revaluation and miracles, that they were all just as full of bovine manure as your religion.
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Wow, that's a long winded way to answer "NO" to Len's question.
I see it as a Yes, but I understand why you would think it was a No. You have to be able to touch the evidence, to see God. If you can’t touch it you evidence or see God you will not think there is any. I respect that even if I do not agree.
I’m just expecting you to offer up evidence that’s different from all the other Mythologies you don’t believe in. If you don’t have anything that can be measured then you don’t have any evidence. If you plan on diving into the forums, please read up on what evidence actually is otherwise you’ll be an semi entertaining time waster.
Theo, it was a no. I asked and he gave waffle, not examples.
… as well as revelations that actually came to be.
Has God ever told you anything that you didn’t already know? Not just the inner voice of your conscience telling you what you should do, but something real that you didn’t know before.
“Actually it is a bit different as with Christianity there are results whereas with mythological gods and goddesses there has never been.”
Thor produces results when there’s a storm.
“Anyway, most Christians don’t worship the crucifix. So I don’t get the picture.”
Yeah, I know you’re trying to split hairs, but you’re not stupid enough to not get what it is actually saying. Plenty of Christians look at a cross or crucifix when praying, and many wear the icon around their neck. You know exactly what the picture means and are trying to worm out of the implication with special pleading, insisting that by virtue of being Christianity, Christianity is different. It’s not.
That is because most mainstream Christian believe that Jesus’ death was the greatest act he did. Though his resurrection was even greater importance, so I don’t agree (and I don’t wear a cross or use a cross or crucifix). I’m not trying to claim special pleading either, I just don’t see how the to images are the same. I don’t get the image as I don’t see Christianity the same as the worship given to the pantheon of gods and goddesses most of the early world. Christianity makes more sense to me, even if mythology is more interesting.
I’m not trying to claim special pleading either, I just don’t see how the to images are the same.
Of course you don’t. If you did you wouldn’t be religious.
By the way, Jesus best act was this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTzXJMU1sLc
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“Though his resurrection was even greater importance, so I don’t agree (and I don’t wear a cross or use a cross or crucifix).”
His death was supposedly to atone for the sins of mankind. His resurrection was just showing off. And of course, you would insist you don’t wear a cross or pray to one (because you’re special), but you claimed MOST Christians do not worship crucifixes.
“Christianity makes more sense to me, even if mythology is more interesting.”
Good for you, but that doesn’t make it true. And you have yet to demonstrate in what way it makes any sense and is not simply more mythology. One guy dying to atone for the sins of everyone else, except everyone else is still at risk of going to hell anyway, all because their all-loving god created this guy because he loves people so much he created a hell for them to go to? This is horrendously convoluted and I’m even accounting for the fact you do not believe in the trinity.
But is there any actual difference?
“Thankfully I’m part of a christian denomination that actually makes sense and don’t believe nonsense like this.”
Yes, you just believe other nonsense … well played to you sir.
Ha, ha, ha. Funny Bender, I liked the video a lot. Though personally I would think coming back from the dead, after clearly being dead, would be far more impressive then turning water into wine. But that is my option.
Also, I understand that video was mean to insult Jesus Christ, but I’m choosing not to be and instead see the humor in the video.
That puzzling sound you’re hearing, that’s the point wizzing by your head.
I don’t get what your trying to say.
Are you saying the point was to insult Jesus? If so I just said I could see that easily. You didn’t really add much by saying that. I choose to look past the insult and at the humor.
There it goes again.
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