The Reason We Stay Anonymous

Wow. NSFW language.

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This reminds me of fundie trolls — angry, crazy, and not someone I want to know where I live. Very sad.

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  • Custador

    Mother f*cker would have to get to me first without having a heart attack and then swing that thing past his own b*tch-tits to hit me…

  • Sunny Ng

    Oh crap, I didn’t expect to see this video here…

    No matter how much the video states it, I’m still not convinced that’s a woman.

    • Custador

      No way is that female. I’m not convinced it’s even human.

      • Kodie

        I didn’t realize that was a female either, but the tone of voice just isn’t male enough. Whatever that means.

        • giac

          castrato!

    • yahweh

      Her/his name must be Pat.

  • trj

    That’s fucking irony right there.

  • http://scotteriology.wordpress.com/ Scott Bailey

    Ummm… did I really just see it call someone else a fat ass? Really? It is out of breath from getting out of the van, and it wants to call someone else a fat ass? Really?

    Personally, I would let it take that slow two handed wind up and then palm it to the face, and then watch as gravy bled out all over the place.

    That’s just me though…

  • Kodie

    If you are on the fence about getting a life or not, I hope this powerful message will help you make the right choice. But be careful, people from the internet live and work amongst us and some of them are very sensitive how they’re spoken to.

  • Joe Agnost

    I don’t have sound (here at work) so I can see the videa but only guess what he/she’s saying.

    Can someone fill me in (not that joker with the bat though) please? I’d love to know if I’m right: is he threatening atheists with bodily harm because we don’t believe in god?? Really?

    • Kodie

      No, she got harassed off a game and would beat the hell out of any MF who messed with her the same way in real life. For anyone who thinks no one would have the nerve to say the things they say when hiding behind an alias, the advice in general is that at least some trolls and flamebaiters aren’t afraid to beat you with an actual metal rod or jujitsu if necessary.

      • Joe Agnost

        Whoa… I was WAY off then. She does look pretty scary though!

        thanks.

        • Kodie

          She doesn’t sound very scary! She just curses a lot and makes threats I’m not sure she’s physically capable of carrying out before landing on her ass with the wind knocked out. The scariest part is how much she cares.

  • mikespeir

    That could have been reduced by about half just by leaving out “fuck” and its various declensions and conjugations.

    • UrsaMinor

      But when you have such a limited vocabulary, you have to stretch it somehow.

      • mikespeir

        Yeah. I guess we wouldn’t want to rob him/her of all ability to communicate verbally. However linguistically challenged, he/she still managed to convey a sense of displeasure, even bellicosity. Perhaps we should applaud so as to encourage these first feeble, stumbling attempts at spoken expression.

    • Mike

      All the swear words are there to give her brain a chance to catch up with her mouth.

    • Kodie

      If you took those out, you wouldn’t know she was badass!

  • Siamang

    The background on this issue is that there is a big online videogame, and the company is setting up to enact a policy that nobody will be allowed to play their game anonymously anymore. So “the reason we stay anonymous” is referencing that sometimes in an online game, you’re playing against people like this. And through no fault of your own, you now have a strange stalker. All because you wanted to play a videogame.

    Screw that.

    I’m sticking with Lego Harry Potter.

  • http://atheists-and-christians.blogspot.com/ Mike aka MonolithTMA

    Blizzard backed down and will not be showing people’s real names on the forums as originally planned.

    • dart

      Even if they hadn’t, it wouldn’t have stopped people from lying on their details. (Who puts their real name out on the Internet anyway?)

      • 3D

        It was not a matter of posting your real info or not, by choice. It was a matter of them publicly posting the name associated with the payment method you use to pay the monthly fee for the game.

    • Anne

      RealID is totally voluntary! And that chick needs a shrink!

  • Lana

    It doesn’t need a metal bar. It could sit on me. It’s terrifying.

    • yahweh

      It needs the metal bar to prop itself back up.

  • Booger

    That only made me sad. What a person. What a life, from the little slice we were privileged to witness.

  • http://bit.ly/7FaSl The Big Blue Frog

    Figures she lives in a trailer park. Love the jujitsu or ninjitsu moves or whatever they were. She’s a catch.

    • dutchhobbit

      Well I was thinking, “what if I have a gun?” Much better than those moves, especially when you are so fat as her.

      • yahweh

        Sort of like Indiana Jones in Raiders when confronted with the big guy with the sword.

    • Len

      Those moves are what could get her killed. Because she thinks she knows how to do them. She’s wrong.

  • yahweh

    Unofficially she (?) uses the f-word, in some fashion, 42 times. It could have been more but she was seriously out of breath for the last 45 seconds because of the jujitsu moves.

  • http://www.doubtingtimmy.com Doubting Timmy

    As a former resident of West Virginia I feel like I should apologize on her/his behalf. We’re not all crazy.

    • Custador

      Go with “its”.

      • Jo

        Never, ever refer to a human being as it.

        • Custador

          Um… No.

        • Elemenope

          Babies of indeterminate gender get the “it” treatment from me. I agree as a means of dehumanization it’s mean, but sometimes the gender is ambiguous and you’re not in a good position to ask for clarification. English doesn’t have a neuter *personal* pronoun, and defaulting to one gendered pronoun is a bit sexist or overly politically correct (depending on which way you go), and as likely to be offensive.

          • Jo

            I agree with you about babies. So, my previous statement isn’t quite what I meant.

            However, she identifies herself as a female in the video. That *should be* the only piece of information anyone here needs in order to use the proper pronouns.

            • Elemenope

              I concur. Then again, you have to watch a fair bit of the video before she first identifies her gender; not everyone makes it that far.

            • Jo

              Good point. I was confused at first myself.

            • Custador

              I myself did not. Assumed it was a dude who was so fat he was having hormone balance issues.

            • 3D

              I was mentally using the “it” pronoun as well, not to consciously dehumanize her, but because she looks like a fucking water buffalo.

          • Elliott

            “They”. English does have a genderless pronoun, it’s “they.”

            • Elemenope

              It’s a very new and not entirely accepted usage of “they”. Far be it for me to be a prescriptivist, and it may well become the generally accepted singular genderless pronoun, though it is likely to introduce amphibologies of meaning when it isn’t clear what the number of the subject is from context.

            • Elliott

              Number is usually already understood, otherwise you wouldn’t get to use a pronoun in the first place. As for its novelty, I remember correctly, there are examples of singular they in Chaucer and Shakespeare, and fine literature all the way to the present day.

              Anyway, all I’m saying is that anywhere you would have the opportunity to refer to this person as “it,” you could just as easily refer to them with the singular (like I just did) and you can avoid drawing unnecessary attention to your pronoun selection.

            • Elliott

              …and thank you for not being a prescriptivist :)

            • Elemenope

              This here is waaaay more than I ever really wanted to know on the subject.

        • http://www.thathurtsmyears.blogspot.com/ michael

          Frankly I couldn’t make out it’s sex. I’m still not sure….so it IS still an IT!

          • Kodie

            She identified herself as a female in the video so at the very least, you can go with ‘she’. It’s not for me to say that her appearance in “male” attire leaves it up to question if she said so herself. It’s not like that guy who used to be gay, although I did feel sorry for him that Jesus was more important to him than honesty with himself. This person doesn’t deserve harassment for their sexual or gender identity because it’s beside the issue, or at least out of bounds in my opinion, of how crazy they are to have responded to issues of getting along with other people on the internet with real-life threats.

            • Sunny Day

              Or if you didn’t care to listen to the whole rant and turned off the volume like I did I never heard her gender identification.

  • Hannah C

    Classy lady.

  • Jo

    Daniel, as far as I can tell the only reason this was posted is so we can ridicule the individual in the video. Well done?

    I would guess the reason this person is so upset about her life is that she’s probably ridiculed on a daily basis. She’s obviously angry for a reason! And she takes that frustration and anger out in an admittedly poor way. But your response to that is to provide a forum for people to make fun of her even more?

    Ha ha. She’s fat! Get it!?

    I thought this community was better than this. You guys are a bunch of really classy people.

    • yahweh

      Lighten up Francis. Read the comments and you will see the reason she is upset. She also videotaped her tirade and probably posted it herself on the internet. She is now fair and open game for anyone to comment on. Even if she wasn’t fat, this would be disturbing.
      I also say well done to Daniel for showing what the underbelly of humanity looks like and sounds like.

    • Daniel Florien

      That she’s fat has nothing to do with this post. The point is she’s threatening to beat the shit out of someone with a metal wrench if they say something to her that she doesn’t like. And that’s why people don’t want their full names to be out there because of a game, because there are some people crazy enough to kill people over internet feuds.

      It applies to UF because I feel this way about fundies trolls sometimes — I’m glad they don’t know where I live because some feel exactly like this poor, crazy girl… and they might be (barely) smart enough to figure out how to wield a metal wrench.

      • Jo

        I thought her point was more along the lines of “People on the internet are a bunch of fucking assholes and I dare them to treat me in real life the way they do online.”

        This has absolutely nothing to do with “religion, science, [or] skepticism.”

        • Roger

          …aaaand this is Daniel’s blog, so he can post videos of puppies playing with each other or videos of people who appear to be stark raving mad if he likes. And if it does not meet with your approval…well, the Internet’s a very large place. Maybe you can start your own blog and kvetch about what he posts there.

          • Jo

            You are absolutely right. His blog, his rules. It just surprised me, that’s all.

            Also, why start my own blog to kvetch when Daniel provides a great comment section to do exactly that? Or should I only comment if I agree with what’s being said?

            • Kodie

              Well, he posts a lot of articles I don’t have any comment for, so I don’t. There are serious philosophical questions, science finds, cartoons, weird videos, history lessons, other major subtopics I can’t think of right now, and sometimes a random tangential topic (like how hot it’s been in the Northern Hemisphere, or at least parts of the US — it is obviously summer, it’s the blog equivalent of “is it hot enough for you?”-style obnoxious (I think in a good or at least neutral way)).

              I read another atheist blog that is a lot more academic in the philosophy but doesn’t post very often, probably because it’s writing-intensive, and another one that is also accused of being irrelevant a lot of the time because it’s mostly not about atheism but stuff the blogger found interesting and wanted to share. Plus I read a few other blogs with a central theme and the prerogative to break from it if they choose to. I like both the other atheist blogs I read for what they are that I still enjoy reading and learning from, and not what rules I expect them to stick to.

              My biggest complaint about any blogs that I choose to read is that sometimes they stop posting one day. Sometimes they are so clever, they just stop updating forever, sometimes correlating strongly with a publishing contract, but if I could make some dough off a blog idea, I’d stop posting when I had enough money too.

    • Kodie

      I think it’s somewhat relevant in favor of keeping aliases on the internet, because you don’t know who might take it to such a personal level. It’s really sad to me that the person in this video has gotten sucked into something so meaningless over a game — but here’s the thing: when you’re on the internet using an alias, nobody knows you are fat, where you live, how you dress, whether you look like a boy but are really a girl, or look really stupid in your stupid headband. They only know what you say, and if you are such an asshoIe, and probably everyone there is as well, that people have to harass and bully you to go away, the rest doesn’t even matter. If it gets to you, it’s your own fault for caring so much. I have been involved in the past on game forums and it can get pretty clique-y, from what I’ve looked into, her guild members “turned” on her for some reason, and it all washed into someone who can’t enjoy their game anymore so much that they’ve bothered to make a youtube video of themselves threatening to beat asses in real life just as hard as they do on the internet. Because she’s unhappy about a game and her friends or enemies in a game.

      Posting from an atheist blog may have similar if not even more serious personal issues, which makes it relevant why we stay anonymous and use handles. Who wants as much trouble from someone who thinks god is real, can’t take an argument, is sensitive to potentially being ganged up on for being ignorant or making really weak, uneducated arguments, and thinks the next thing they have to do is come after one of us?

      • Cailia

        Honestly, after you’ve spent so much time building a character up, you don’t want to ditch it. Every time you get online, they will know, due to the various communication methods in-game (including letting you know which of your friends, or anyone whose character name you know, are online). She could not escape the cruelty without giving up her hard work, because of someone else’s actions. They really are cruel on there, and it only gets worse if they know you’re a female.
        I would also add that it looks like someone looked up information on her RL address, etc. and then threatened her with that information. Honestly, I’d be angry at what I’d been through, how much time and money I had to throw away because of someone else, and terrified for my life. I cannot blame her whatsoever for carrying a (relatively) low-key weapon and feeling that violent; I would not have announced it on YouTube, but it seems to be a different world these days than I was brought up in.

        ps I used to play with a boyfriend, quit the game with the boyfriend. All my characters were male to avoid the jerks I met with my first (female) character. And she probably gets enough of a hard time IRL that WoW was her escape. A somewhat tortured existence, if you ask me.

    • 3D

      Ha ha. She’s fat! Get it!?

      No, not quite.

      “Ha ha! She’s a fat, repulsive idiot who made a video, saying lots of stupid and funny things, attacking OTHER people for being fat! Get it?”

      Fat people aren’t funny all by themselves. If she made a video on sewing a patch onto a jacket or how to replace a car engine, it wouldn’t be comedic fodder. But when they do stupid embarrassing shit, ESPECIALLY calling other fat people out for being fat, it’s extra funny because they’re fat themselves.

      By the way. I missed the part where you stand up for the poor downtrodden people who this disgusting water buffalo was insulting by calling them fat. What about their hurt feelings?!

      • Kodie

        Tu quoque argument, does it make it right to make fun of fat people because they make fun of even fatter people? Rather than that, put it on her list of obvious and legitimate flaws that she can’t think of anything better to criticize someone else. Making fun of fat people for being fat is weak. No, I’m not fat either. I think she’s got enough material being the angry girl with no life to talk about that it is irrelevant to point out her appearance and gender identity, as others have in the thread.

        • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ WMDKitty

          Dude, I’m a fat-ass myself, and I have no problem with ripping on other fat people. Then again, I’m actually trying to get healthier — not necessarily lose weight, just get healthier than I am. I’d be happy just to drop down to 140, from my current wt of 157.

          (Before anyone says something to the effect of “oh, 157 lbs isn’t *that* heavy”, I’d like to point out that for someone who is 4’11, that works out to a BMI of 31.7, well within the “obese” category. I should be around 120 lbs, tops.)

          • Kodie

            It’s just one of those things — if the person isn’t obnoxious, it’s not ok to call them a fatass, but if they are obnoxious, then it’s ok? I mean, is it rational to say there’s nothing wrong with being heavy if you’re also nice, but when you are a jerk, I will pick on your physical “flaws” as well? What other physical traits is it ok to pick on when you’re provoked? Is it mature to sidestep the issue and hit them where they hurt the most?

            Mostly, it’s the site we are posting on and what ways we generally argue with one another. Does being fat have anything to do with her being a jerk or is it ad hominem? I mean it’s a party of everyone getting their aggressions out on this video, and if you point out that it’s not really relevant what she looks like, and that we usually try not to argue outside the bounds of fairness. Not to mention it just occurs to me now, what I perceive to be her biggest flaw is not having a productive life outside the internet, that I don’t always get offline when I should either, and that some people in this thread care way too much what a fat “it” from a trailer park in West Virginia made a video about. Way too much that they can’t even see how it’s hypocritical to call her on her weight and gender identity when they wouldn’t otherwise agree that’s fair to do.

            • 3D

              Kodie wrote:

              It’s just one of those things — if the person isn’t obnoxious, it’s not ok to call them a fatass, but if they are obnoxious, then it’s ok? I mean, is it rational to say there’s nothing wrong with being heavy if you’re also nice, but when you are a jerk, I will pick on your physical “flaws” as well?

              First of all, who said there’s nothing wrong with being fat, if you’re also nice? There’s something wrong with it no matter what, but if you at least have an agreeable personality, people can look past the fat and see the rest of what makes you a human being. (I’m not talking about people who are 10, 20 or 30 lbs. overweight, I mean people who are morbidly obese like the girl in this video.)

              What other physical traits is it ok to pick on when you’re provoked? Is it mature to sidestep the issue and hit them where they hurt the most?

              Are we even talking about the same thing? That girl-thing doesn’t even read this blog. No one here ‘hit her where it hurts’. They were, very reasonably and understandably, commenting on the absurd spectacle of her grotesque appearance combined with her ridiculous ranting.

              Mostly, it’s the site we are posting on and what ways we generally argue with one another. Does being fat have anything to do with her being a jerk or is it ad hominem?

              I would say it’s quite likely that some of the personality traits that led her to make that video are some of the same traits that lead her to stuff her face with disgusting fat-laden junk, yes.

            • Custador

              This, basically.

              Before I start this I’m going to tell you right away that I weigh 273lbs. Well, I did last week, but after six days of P90X my waist is 2 inches smaller and I have no clue what I currently weigh. But suffice it to say: I am a chubby fat-ass, and I totally endorse this – It is NOT okay to be fat. It is debilitating, damaging to health in more ways than I can list, and 99.99% of the time, it it SELF INFLICTED.

              How did I get this fat? I sat on my ass for years eating crap, never exercising and drinking beer. How did she get that fat? Same thing times ten plus Krispy Kreme, probably.

              I’m sorry, but there has to reach a point when you get to a certain size and you look at yourself and say “You know what? Imna die real young if I don’t sort this out now”. That young lady is WAY past that size. The fact that she’s done that to herself and is also an obnoxious bint who posts crap like that makes her totally fair game.

            • 3D

              Before I start this I’m going to tell you right away that I weigh 273lbs. Well, I did last week, but after six days of P90X my waist is 2 inches smaller and I have no clue what I currently weigh. But suffice it to say: I am a chubby fat-ass, and I totally endorse this – It is NOT okay to be fat. It is debilitating, damaging to health in more ways than I can list, and 99.99% of the time, it it SELF INFLICTED.

              Good for you. You have my support.

              Just like being religious, often, you don’t realize how you ended up being overweight, and it doesn’t make you a bad person, but you don’t have to accept it.

              Worse yet is convincing yourself that there’s nothing wrong with it, and that it’s just ‘another form of beautiful’.

            • Custador

              Thanks 3D, I appreciate it.

            • Jabster

              Jesus H fecking Christ that’s almost 20st! Anyway I have to admit that I have a certain bias against the overweight as I’m just under 12st and 6’2″ and I make no attempt to watch my weight (well I have put on almost a stone in the last 20 years!) so when someone tells me their big boned or it’s their metabolism while they’re stuffing the face with another burger then my sympathy isn’t what you would call exactly strong. A funny(ish) thing I saw yesterday a women ordered a bacon butty but didn’t want butter on it – WTF is that about?

            • Custador

              Yeah, it’s about 19st 7lbs. I am 6’3″ tall and very broad-shouldered, though, so it’s not as bad as it might be.

              You ever watch Dave Spikey doing standup? He does a great routine about fat dobbers ordering meals in pubs :D

    • sarahbee

      Jo, I completely agree. Even if the video wasn’t posted so we could mock her, we were there by the first comment.

      “No way is that female. I’m not convinced it’s even human”? Nice, Custador. I’m going to venture that that is precisely the kind of insult that has driven this girl to this state. I bet every single peer she knows, plus a lot of anonymous people driving by her on the street, has said or allowed to be said something very much like that.

      And don’t feed me the it’s-not-that-she’s-fat,-it’s-that-she’s-unhealthy crap. Without giving her a physical exam, the “the fact that she’s done that to herself” argument is just another way to judge her experience based on how she looks. Which, by the sound of it, is something she has had ENOUGH of already.

      To be honest, so have I.

      • 3D

        Jo, I completely agree. Even if the video wasn’t posted so we could mock her, we were there by the first comment.

        “No way is that female. I’m not convinced it’s even human”? Nice, Custador. I’m going to venture that that is precisely the kind of insult that has driven this girl to this state. I bet every single peer she knows, plus a lot of anonymous people driving by her on the street, has said or allowed to be said something very much like that.

        If so, one would hope that the negative reinforcement would drive her to lose weight. Not pick up a camera and make videos about beating people to death with an automobile jack, and hilariously kung-fu kicking into the air.

        As I said above, I have sympathy for fat people. However, when you do choose to make such a belligerent video and post it for the world to see, you forfeit all expectation of sympathy.

        And don’t feed me the it’s-not-that-she’s-fat,-it’s-that-she’s-unhealthy crap. Without giving her a physical exam, the “the fact that she’s done that to herself” argument is just another way to judge her experience based on how she looks. Which, by the sound of it, is something she has had ENOUGH of already.

        To be honest, so have I.

  • Jo

    And this post isn’t even on topic!

    • Elemenope

      It might fit in under commentary on the nature of “reasonable thoughts”, by way of contrast, and SCIENCE!!!, cause, y’know, the Internet.

  • http://www.thathurtsmyears.blogspot.com/ michael

    West Virginia? Isn’t that in Dumbfuckistan? Benny Hinn should hire it as head of security. They’re completely compatible……no brains!

  • http://jesusiscominglookbusy.tumblr.com/post/40103 Doug Philips

    That was really sad. Could you imagine the miserable life this girl (and yes, I thought she was male until halfway through the video, too) must have led so far. You know her parents–is she even has any–are most likely uneducated and children of abusive and/or neglectful homes just like this poor girl must be.

    Just imagine the abuse she’s received from other kids just for her physical appearance.

    I’m in no way justify the violent threats she makes–though my skepticism is high that they are real–but she is clearly the product of an exceptionally unfortunate background.

    • Custador

      Being morbidly obese is not necessarily the product of abusive parenting or peer bullying, nor is it in any way a reliable indicator that she must have had a terrible life.

      It’s also not a valid excuse for her to be a complete prat.

      • Kodie

        Does her being a complete prat merit the derision of other perceived flaws, whether or not they are relevant to the pratness? I mean, if another woman who was morbidly obese and preferred to dress like a man and said nice things about you on the internet, would you make fun of those things, or think her appearance was relevant to the statement?

        • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ WMDKitty

          I just can’t take a pig-faced whiny teenager seriously. Besides, if this video is anything to go by, she probably behaved like a complete ass online, and is just rage-bawwing over (rightly) being called out on it and/or (rightly) ridiculed for it.

          She needs to suck it up and take what she’s earned.

        • Custador

          “I mean, if another woman who was morbidly obese and preferred to dress like a man and said nice things about you on the internet, would you make fun of those things?”

          No, but then that lady wouldn’t have earned my derision. Sad fact of life: You post that kind of video on YouTube, and you just stuck your head above the parapet – you are fair game for anybody to take any kind of shot at they want.

  • Jo

    Sorry to be the Debbie Downer everyone, I’m having a bad day. As you were.

    • MDS1969

      I’m with you, Jo. This should not be posted here. Very discouraging,

      • Roger

        Well, when you get your own blog, you can post all the encouraging things you’d like to post.

        • Custador

          No DON’T DO IT! Do you see what I did there? heh!

  • Roger

    All of this over World of Warcraft??!? Wow–I owe the Cleveland Cavaliers fans an apology for saying they were overinvested and needed to get a life.

    • dart

      People have killed each other over World of Warcraft and other MMORPGs.

      People take videogames too seriously. You know your world needs a better seperation of reality and fantasy when people can get murdered over a freaking videogame.

      • Roger

        People have killed each other over World of Warcraft? As they say, “Just when you think you’ve heard it all…”

  • Earthling

    “Larry, This is what happens when you f*** a stranger in the a**!!!!!”

    • Elemenope

      Look out that window…

  • ryedo

    I think she needs a very big hug.

  • objectifier

    I have only 2 thoughts. First, I bet the head band is to hide the large L on its forehead and second, this is the reason for large caliber handguns. A 9 wouldn’t penetrate to anything vital but my .45 would put it down. I’ll swear I thought it was sasquatch.

    Being a loser is one thing. Advertising it is another. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubts. OK, I guess that counts as a third thought, three more than it deserved.

    • Revyloution

      .45 velocity is way to slow. Plus, all that fat would prevent any expansion of the slow heavy slug.

      .9mm in 147gr+p would tear deep. One of the biggest problems with .9 is over penetration, not under penetration. In slimmer frames, the 9 rounds simply make a thin hole through the entire body.

      I still say that .40 or .10mm is the best compromise. You get the high speeds of the .9, with a bullet grain closer to the venerable .45.

      Of course, a pistol is really just a tool you use to fight your way to a riffle. Preferably a 7.62 H&K G3.

      • Custador

        Lol… Scary, Rev.

  • Ash

    So much gender policing in the comments. I find it really disheartening.

    I guess I just expect better from nonbelievers.

    • Erelyes

      I am with you. I am more horrified by the comments here than I am of her – the commenters are supposed to be part of my community.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ WMDKitty

    Crap, isn’t there some kind of law about making threats of bodily harm?

  • Cailia

    If she calls herself a female, then she is. You guys are really being cruel. Don’t you have better things to do than pick on someone you’ve never met, whose problems you don’t know or understand, and commit ad hominem fallacies? Sheesh, I expected more.

    • Jabster

      Concerned troll noted …

      • Elemenope

        For the umpteenth time, not every criticism of behavior, attitude, or content is concern trolling. Explicit in the definition is, well, trolling. Which this doesn’t come close to qualifying as.

        • Jabster

          Get out of the wrong side of the bed did we Elem?

          p.s. Where did these number of lurkers suddenly appear from as I really don’t seem to remember any of their posts from before hand?

          p.p.s. Please learn what the troll part in concerned troll is – in particular it really doesn’t have anything to do with trolling in general.

          • Elemenope

            Yeah, I get what concern trolling is, and this just ain’t it. Calling concern troll at the drop of a hat is just a cheap way to dismiss criticism, and who gives a damn if they are normally lurkers and only post to register their irritation? You don’t have to agree to the criticism, and you don’t have to respond to it.

            • Jabster

              “You don’t have to agree to the criticism, and you don’t have to respond to it.”

              You also don’t have to agree with the criticism of being a concerned troll or respond to it but you did … so what’s your point again?

            • Jabster

              p.s. Explict in the defintion of a concerned troll is not a standard troll … they really are different things.

            • Elemenope

              You also don’t have to agree with the criticism of being a concerned troll or respond to it but you did…

              Because clearly it irritates me. Am I concern trolling?

            • Elemenope

              p.s. Explicit in the definition of a concerned troll is not a standard troll … they really are different things.

              Explicit in the definition of a concern troll is that the concern is insincere or expressed in bad faith. You have no reason whatsoever to believe that is the case in this example.

            • Jabster

              “Because clearly it irritates me. Am I concern trolling?”

              So the fact that it iritates me when someone just pops out of the woodwork and claims how nasty every one is means I shouldn’t say anything but the fact that the term concerned troll iritates you means you should post about it?

              “Explicit in the definition of a concern troll is that the concern is insincere or expressed in bad faith.”

              vs.

              “Explicit in the definition is, well, trolling.”

              Which is it Elem – is it the “troll” or “concerned” that you think are important?

              p.s. If it iritates you then take you own advice and don’t raise to the bait or maybe make a general post in the forum. You could even just make out they I call everyone a concerned troll – oh you already did that didn’t you?

              p.p.s. I’ve got a large box here that may be of some use when you deceide to get off that high horse you’re currently sitting on …

            • Elemenope

              So the fact that it iritates me when someone just pops out of the woodwork and claims how nasty every one is means I shouldn’t say anything but the fact that the term concerned troll iritates you means you should post about it?

              Didn’t say you shouldn’t do it. Just commented that I thought it was a lazy way of dismissing criticism. By all means do it, and I’ll criticize it, and the world will continue to spin forevermore.

              Which is it Elem – is it the “troll” or “concerned” that you think are important?

              Are you serious? The “troll” part is what separates a person who is merely critical from one who engages in criticism in bad faith or insincerely. And for what it’s worth, as the name of the thing sort of indicates, they are both necessary, and neither one alone sufficient, conditions.

            • Jabster

              “By all means do it, and I’ll criticize it, and the world will continue to spin forevermore.”

              Well technical it will stop spinning one day but I get your point … anyway I think the charity/aid thread in the forum is far more interesting than this one!

        • Roger

          I’d definitely characterize this drive-by comment from a poster we’ve never seen before and are never likely to see again as “trolling.” Perhaps we should call this a different kind of trolling–a Shame Troll, perhaps?

          • Custador

            What a pity we’ll never find out how obeses Shame Troll is, eh?

            :-p

          • JohnMWhite

            Seriously? Because someone unknown to the community points out that cruelly denying someone’s gender and making them a figure of fun isn’t really a nice thing to do, you see that as justification to dismiss it as a troll comment? What is the matter with this place? Did I wake up in the Mirror Universe where atheists cling to their right to treat other people like dirt, cats are dumber than dogs and Spock has a beard?

            • Jabster

              WTF has whether someone is or isn’t an atheist got to do with it?

              p.s. I’ve still got that box handy as Elem has got off that horse now …

    • JohnMWhite

      I agree, I’m not sure why this particular video had to be highlighted, to make a spectacle of someone who clearly has issues. And most of us here would be pretty quick to say something about Republicans calling a transsexual “it”. That’s not called for, particularly with someone who hasn’t actually done anything against any of us.

  • fftysmthg

    A hurt, powerless little girl — harmless.

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  • Mark the Pilgrim

    She took a game too seriously. I’ve always wondered why people do that. Seems ridiculous.

    • Custador

      I can think of a few from my PlanetSide and LoTRO days who remind me of her more than a bit!

      • Revyloution

        Planetside was fun, but people actually took it seriously?

        MAN A TURRET!

        • Custador

          Lol – Clearly you never came across Roamcel on the Werner Server.

  • Tee

    I LOL’d.

  • nazani14

    I’d like to suggest that getting healthy and educated in a great way to get revenge.

    • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ WMDKitty

      *enthusiastic thumbs up!*

  • zack

    Wow, that’s a girl….
    Most pathetic excuse for a human I’ve seen lately.

  • nazani14

    I’m rather disappointed in most of the comments here. Nobody seems to have picked up on her implication that she made this video because she’s been bullied. Although she only mentions cyber-bullying, I wouldn’t be surprised if she were bullied in real life. I just hope her parents or someone at her school realizes how messed up she is and tries to put her on a new rack. As the parent of a teenage girl, I have sympathy for her.

    • Custador

      Chicken and egg? Frankly, if she behaves like that she’s going to get bullied, period. Nobody playing WoW would know how big she is, so you can’t claim that’s the cause of her being cyber-bullied.

      • Jabster

        I’m always in two minds about this one – on one hand there’s the you have the right to be an individual blah, blah, blah and on the other hand there’s life just isn’t that fair so if you don’t fit in then you’re a bit buggered. Of course if she wants to fit in anywhere you’ll have to apply a large about of lard to the hips before hand so she can be pushed through the door …

    • Siberia

      Yeah, I’m disappointed too.

      I’ve heard far too many rail-thin girls harass an heavier (not even this fat – more like chubby) girls for no particular reason other than being overweight. The girls weren’t obnoxious, annoying or even rude. Hell, they didn’t even interact with the rail-thin crowd. They just *existed*. That was enough for them to be insulted and harassed.

      I can see someone’s temper being frayed after a few years of this treatment. People are vicious.

      Disclaimer: yes, I’m overweight, though not as bad as this chick. I’m also handicapped. I’ve never been bullied because people weren’t crazy enough to f-k with me – even because I did have a clique of friends to protect my ass. Bodyguards FTW ;)

  • Jerdog

    This young woman clearly needs help. I fail to see how making fun of her gets us anywhere. Or is it the reason we stay anonymous?

  • Tabbie

    Wow! The pain she bears is incredible. Her reaction to it is frightening, yet none of us should be surprised. It’s people like this who take guns and go on shooting rampages at universities, government offices, restaurants and workplaces. I sincerely hope someone who knows her in real life will see this video, recognize the time bomb and set things in motion for an intervention to take place before it’s too late.

  • Cucumber

    Why is she using ‘fat’ insults? O_o


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