Ed Martin, a republican candidate in Misery (pronouced Missouri), tells us of the danger of the growth of government:
And that’s one of the things that’s most destructive about the growth of government. It’s this taking away of that freedom. The freedom — the ultimate freedom, to find your salvation, to get your salvation. And to find Christ, for me and you.
So there you have it:
- Growth in government leads to less freedom.
- The ultimate freedom is to find Jesus.
- Therefore, growth in government is bad!
So if we only had less government, everyone could have the freedom to find Jesus!
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please pass me some more government!!! Thank you
It’s a little shaky but I think I know where he gets this idea. Less government means fewer policies telling people what they can’t do. More freedom for Christians means more freedom to intrude where they don’t belong. “To find their salvation” “freely,” means to turn this nation into the Christian nation they want.
I don’t know where they got the idea that practicing their religion means here on earth, the country needs to be watched over by Jesus. I heard some arguments that if certain laws are not overturned, god will turn his back on the US. If I were a Christian, I guess that would influence me, but on the other hand, from little I know about Christianity, suffering on earth is to be expected, salvation isn’t here, and they can practice their religion just fine without infringing on the rest of us, or requiring a whole nation.
I think following 9/11, something happened, I think not only is there this hyper-fear of Muslims, but something of a jealousy or competition. Muslims have theocracies, and no one’s stopping them. The only thing that can overpower such a thing is another theocracy. I know, the war on terrorism is translated into a holy war for many if not most who agree with it. But it’s worse. If we don’t get the approval of god for the US, we are steps behind a country that is protected by allah. If they can have it, why can’t we?
I’ve also given a fleeting thought to the “persecution” idea. White Europeans stole land from the Indians and who were left are granted sovereignty over small patches of land called reservations all over the US. I think Christians think they can just break off and do what they want like that, and they’re not allowed to. Their land is being stolen too! This is “god’s country,” and it’s being stolen, and they think if not given over to them, maybe some parcels of land where they can do whatever they want. I don’t know, it scares me. It’s like terrorist cells all their own, not what I would say is going on the equivalent of the American Indian reservations, or not that they deserve it either. I just can’t stand the whining, but I’m trying to figure out just what they want and what they want to use it for. It would be one thing for the rest of us to be free from these hypothetical sovereignties of free Christianity, but then I think they would be even more imposing, attacking, invading, generally being asshoIes en masse, with their own documents granting permission to do it.
Given the idea that they could all go somewhere else and settle if the rules are too oppressive to them (hypothetical area of land currently not owned or settled by any nation rather than another war to take over someone else’s land – hell, they seem like the kind of people who would take the Indians’ land away from them again), I think I’d rather they stay where they are and be held to the US Constitution and the 1st amendment like the rest of us. Although the pilgrims felt the same way. Hmm. Well, I should be dead before this goes down. Always a sunny side.
The idea that God has “turned his back” on the country is not new at all. Robertson and Falwell famously said something like that after the 9/11/2001 attacks.
In my opinion, Christians want to feel persecuted. It’s the ultimate expression of Christianity to be persecuted for believing in Jesus … so many of them simply invent persecution, when it’s not happening, just so they can feel as though they’re good Christians. This guy is simply cooking up a rationale for feeling persecuted in a country in which there is no persecution of Christians.
That’s breathtakingly, egregiously, depressingly awful. He doesn’t deserve to be in office. He just doesn’t *get* it. Freedom is choice, not one-and-only-choice, which is no-choice.
Growth in government has given us freedom people like this mongoloid want to take away. That freedom known as seperation of Church and State. Keep the freedom coming and the nonsense away.
Do he openly admit to being a Dominionist?
So wait – now I’m torn, I had wanted less government control but I guess we need more!
I mean no one is religious in countries with powerful governments!
Wait just a second – the guy telling us that government is the anti-salvation is working for the government… I just crapped my pants
What Curious Scholar said…but without the crapping pants part. It’s very scary here in FL, we have Teabagger/Fundies (and candidates) crawling out of whatever…Less govt is code for xtian gov. My rules only or we punish you. I became an atheist after reading the bible…all of it. Off course getting a PhD in biology did’nt hurt. With all the critical thinking and “edumacation” and all. Nice!
crap after all…and the edumaction. did’nt = didn’t