Dumbasses at a FL church are hosting a “International Burn a Quran Day”:
The Dove World Outreach Center says it is hosting the event to remember 9/11 victims and take a stand against Islam. With promotions on its website and Facebook page, it invites Christians to burn the Muslim holy book at the church from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m.
“We believe that Islam is of the devil, that it’s causing billions of people to go to hell, it is a deceptive religion, it is a violent religion and that is proven many, many times,” Pastor Terry Jones told CNN’s Rick Sanchez earlier this week.
Jones wrote a book titled “Islam is of the Devil,” and the church sells coffee mugs and shirts featuring the phrase.
Imagine if a Muslim church in FL was hosting a “International Bible Burning” event. They’d flip. But because it’s a religion other than theirs, they think it’s great.
What does such an event accomplish? It does not change anyone’s mind, it only fuels anger and violence.
and boosts Quran sales
I’ve never really understood book-burning. I guess it’s symbolic, maybe cathartic in some way. It doesn’t rid the world of the Koran or reduce the number of Muslims. This is your faith and this is what we think of it. Maybe it carries some of the satisfaction of murder without actually doing it, and then maybe it is somehow instigating Muslims to react, so they can point and say, see! we were just burning paper and they came and bombed our church!
Has anyone tried burning a flag recently? That really upsets people. Symbolic acts seem to have as much meaning to some people as actually doing something because of the reaction, although your run-of-the-mill book-burnings seem to also cause a reaction. On the flip side, I read a few decorating blogs and people have the most insane reaction to the use of books in bathrooms or the destruction of books for like, decoupage or how it ruins the spines to be stacked rather than tallways on a shelf. I’m digressing a little, but books are among the least of my possessions. If I break my lamp, I can buy a new lamp, but it won’t be my grandmother’s lamp. If I treat a book poorly, I can buy another one, I can take it out of the library. People have too much reverence for the paper and binding than they do what the book is, it’s just words, you can usually get another copy. You can burn all the books you like to keep warm or to express dislike of a particular idea, nobody on earth is going to lose the actual book no matter how many you can burn.
I know that my feeling about book burning come from the fact that it’s often part of a bigger campaign of hate, Nazi Germany being the most obvious example. In general the physical entity of a book is indeed not important although a specific book may hold some personal importance just like your grandmother’s lamp, and for the same reasons.
Aside from fire safety, though, I don’t really get the point of it, or why it should upset anyone. It’s the symbolic disregard for information basically, information which does not go away when you burn a book. You are right, though, it would be expensive for me to replace at least some books of mine that went missing somehow or destroyed, but I probably have very few books that are more materially important to me than what’s written in them (like a particular lamp vs. a replacement that works), but I tend not to own or want to own many books in the first place. Most of my possessions can be replaced at some cost, some are sentimental and cannot be replaced; books are the written text, available at libraries and bookstores, the binding of ink to paper is a heavy brick I don’t need to store here. Also, a lot of books are actually crap. I am not talking of burning them, but the usage of books as decoration, the fainting on every decor blog on the internet that goes on whenever Anthropologie “misuses” books to make interesting store displays, or someone tears up an old copy of something like Moby Dick they found at a garage sale for a buck or less and uses it for wallpaper. Moby Dick didn’t go away, folks, calm down. If something’s out of print, or is signed by an author or something, that’s a little different, but most bound stacks of paper with words written on them, to me, are replaceable, you don’t have to treat them like a delicate treasure. In the interest of conservation, you can still read a book that has come unglued or dropped in the tub (after letting it dry); most other possessions need to be discarded after they don’t work, and you can’t borrow a new one for free. You spill chocolate ice cream on your carpet, it will still cover your floor, but it will mock you. The words in the book still work when the book itself is broken.
Back to the subject, though, I don’t get it. Symbolic destruction of reading material is saying “I hate Islam,” let’s all get together and have an “I hate Islam” bash, there’s going to be a bonfire made of Korans. I don’t particularly care if they hate Islam. They’re all going to have to buy a Koran to burn one, I hardly think that’s worth the trouble to protest. I tend to think it is the fire itself. When we were talking about the candles in the Buddhist altars, I was thinking how many religious rituals use the symbolic setting of fire, also the use of water, and prayer speech. Splashing water on some Muslims would baptize them, maybe? Cutting out their tongues would be quite a statement. Isn’t that one of theirs? I think burning things is a standard ritual. While candles stay lit and controlled, incense makes a stench considered by some to be holy or spiritual, dunking people in water can drown them accidentally, adding printed word to fire is just another silly ritual that has meaning only if you want it to have meaning. If this horrifies anyone, it’s only because they want to be horrified. A rally of silly Christians who have to buy copies of a book they don’t already own in order to ritually burn it as a group, hold hands, sing songs or pray to the fire.. it’s as stupid as anything they do anyway. They’re not killing anyone, it just demonstrates they have resources to burn, like money and time to rally and hate like they do anyway whenever they go to church. It might even turn out they can’t get a permit to burn, and they have to tear up the book like, was it the Phelpses? that one time? Worst Bookburning Ever
I think bookburning is a waste of time, and I would have to buy a bible to burn one myself. However, using a bible for toilet paper is ok. Everyone needs something to wipe on, or for that matter, it wouldn’t upset me overly if you used a copy of any other books for toilet paper or wallpaper or line a birdcage or something. Nazi bookburning just doesn’t get me going as much as concentration camps and gas chambers. Expressing hate and performing acts of genocide are way two different things, neither really good, but one is definitely worse.
Historically book burning has usually been more about censorship than symbolism. It has primarily been an attempt to completely remove the presence of certain books.
Book burnings in the middle ages successfully destroyed every copy of some of the great literary and scientific work of antiquity. Book burnings in the age of the internet are just another pointless christian rally.
I agree. There was a time when you could burn all of the copies of a book in the world (or at least the part you were trying to control.) This is no longer possible.
I’m really only talking about now, and I guess making exceptions for say, remote places where they don’t altogether have many books and someone decided to destroy all the reading material so no one could learn except by word of mouth. There are many places in the world without all the books we have, they don’t know what they don’t know either.
Imagine a time in history when something was recorded but imagine that all record of it was lost because it was actually destroyed. How does that change where we are now? Even in historical terms, if something unique happened, or, say, the best story ever written, and it was destroyed. How is that different than if I wrote the best story ever written and decided it was trash and destroyed it myself without letting anyone else read it? I guess my point is, we got here, and printed word triumphed, because no matter how many books were destroyed, more were written. Perhaps a long-ago population never got to read them, but they’re all dead now. We could have read it if it survived, but we don’t know what we don’t know.
I guess it’s sad when something unique and extraordinary, or pertinent information regarding an historical event, doesn’t last through time, but I’m sure there are decent books up in someone’s head right now that won’t make it to a publisher. It’s life and death, but for books. Many things get printed that aren’t worth preserving, frankly, while some worthwhile has been lost forever. Let’s imagine that pertinent information changed the course of history, but it can’t have. Maybe it was just a conspiracy theory anyway and not an historical account. Or maybe it changes historical account in a radical way, but who are you going to hold that against, they’re dead. We don’t know what we don’t know we don’t know…. and that’s ok!
If everyone could realize what we need to preserve, what will be valuable in the future, maybe they would have. In the present age, there’s way too much media and recorded history, everyone with a twitter and a cell phone camera and facebook, blogs, forums, comments, emails, and everything on the internet. Some people get sentimental when a newspaper goes out of business, and some people even relied on that paper for their news. Hardly anyone writes a letter anymore. Last time I did when the boyfriend I had at the time was in the army stationed in Korea.
99% of the internet is filled with -wgas?- and 99% are read by someone who does give a shlt, and some are those who leave their comment behind, and what do they use their print for? FIRST! and “me too” and “shopped!” and “that’s ghey”. What do we need to know that we still don’t know? This is our printed word now, and it can’t be burned.
I feel a little like bookburning situations are like The Grinch Who Stole Christmas — he thought he could steal Christmas by taking the things, but he couldn’t stop it from coming. Burning books is historically, to me, the sign of a coward or delusional. Even if you destroy copies of books, you are not destroying the urge to create more. You can burn information or verse on paper, but you can’t burn the urge in people to record more. Look at the internet, do you think you could stop anyone from starting a blog if they wanted? Some countries don’t allow it, and some places don’t know what a blog even is, but the general idea is that people have an urge to plant their words on other people, and it is irrepressible, and it can even be weedlike indestructible.
Build as many fires as you like, I mean, safety first, but burn any book you want to as far as I care, if you have nothing better to do. It’s clueless as religion to think a book has any feelings, that’s for people who burn books and people who mind books being burned. We need to get over it, stop being scared of people who do it to get a reaction or mad at them, or feeling sorry for the books.
I’ve been going through their ten reasons why burning a book is cool (and it seems to be ten reasons why Islam is wrong, which isn’t quite the same thing), and I can’t find one that doesn’t also apply to Christianity if you change the point of view. Any help?
http://www.doveworld.org/blog/ten-reasons-to-burn-a-koran
Talk about selective blindness.
I looked at that, 2-10 are what’s wrong with Islam, so burning a Koran is a symbolic gesture. The very first one, though:
In other words, we have to burn the Koran to cause Muslims to repent and be saved. I mean, there’s plenty wrong with this statement (well documented historical fact that ONLY Islam denies?), but the motivation to burn the Koran here doesn’t seem to address more that it’s the wrong thing to teach, but burning the Koran directly affects Muslims conversions to Christianity. Later, point 8, a Muslim does not have the right to change their religion… they are pretty much caught in a pickle. I’m sure burning their holy book which is not published in heaven (point 2) will solve that problem for them.
Well, the whole idea that ONLY Muslims believe certain things is certainly not true. The Christian Gnostic (Knowledge) Gospel of Jdas was made public and Judas was the hero not the betrayer. The Christian Gnostic predates the four Gospels kept in the New Testament. There is another story that Judas actually partnered with Christ because the need for revolution was at hand. We cannot justify persecuting another group with text because it is out of context for today. Today, we must look at the evolution of the sacred text to become people of the Book–people of God.
Apart from the bit about the death sentence for apostasy, I cannot see any difference between the accusations they level at Islam and how I regard Christianity. The power of delusion is very great.
During most of its history Christianity wasn’t exactly nice to people who wanted to convert to other religions or who refused to convert to Christianity. Islam has long way to go before they catch up.
No argument there – but the only improvement in Christianity over Islam is that the former has quit killing people for simply disagreeing. Or getting raped. Give the Devil his due… ;-)
You can apply #2 to any book but the bible: burn all books except this one.
“Imagine if a Muslim church in FL was hosting a “International Bible Burning” event. They’d flip. But because it’s a religion other than theirs, they think it’s great.”
Actually, in an interview the preacher Jones was asked that very question, and surprisingly said that it was Muslim’s right to do so if they wanted. I shall use the Googles to find that…….
Here it is, good ol’ Hemant:
http://friendlyatheist.com/2010/07/24/interview-with-pastor-terry-jones-the-man-behind-%E2%80%9Cinternational-burn-a-koran-day%E2%80%9D/
Would you support a Muslim (or atheist) group that felt Christianity was a problem and made plans to burn copies of the Bible?
We, of course, would not support them, but we would support their first amendment rights of freedom of expression
What does such an event accomplish? It does not change anyone’s mind, it only fuels anger and violence.
You’ve just answered your own question. Fueling anger and violence is exactly what this tries to accomplish.
That’s good old fashioned “World Outreach” for you right there.
Wow. Further proof that ignorance ain’t skin deep, it goes all the way down to the bone.
“What does such an event accomplish? It does not change anyone’s mind, it only fuels anger and violence.”
Well at least they’re consistent. =P It really does make me want to burn a bible in reply though.
The Christian double standard, or Christian privilege. Of course they can get away with it, after all this is a “christian nation (Not).” Nothing says God’s love like burning someone else’s holy book. Lke Robert Price said, with a God like that, who need Satan.
Kriss
All the atheists at this blog should have a Bible burning day and burn a Bible and post the video on youtube.
Yeah! That’ll-
Actually no, that’s a terrible idea and you’re a moron.
Why would an atheist need to burn the bible?
Because Billy there is just a teenage troll and needs the video to “prove” that atheists are all terrible bible burning baby eaters.
I am an atheists and I have 2 bibles in my bookshelf, one is even in Russian.
It is actually next to my Dawkins book.
As an atheist I see no reason why I should burn a bible.
“Even bad books are books, and therefore sacred”
Except Twilight. But those are good doorstops, table-leg-leveler, etc., so it’s OK.
Because bible fire gives a grilled baby this special flavor.
Baby Burgers, YUM.
I do eat baby chickens, called eggs though.
But never used a bible to kook it.
And I have eaten at least one kid before. I had it curried at Virgin Gorda. Mmm.
I’ll wager the eggs you eat don’t have baby chickens in them.
Or are you a fan of balut?
My first though was where the hell would an atheist get the bible to burn but then again most atheists have a bible at home for reference when they debate creationists.
I think most atheists who have a bible still have it from before, and kept it because it can be useful as you suggest. Perhaps some have purposely bought a bible so they’d have read it. I had been thinking should I get one so I can read it. Yeah, I haven’t read it, and here I defer to people so well-read up on it, they don’t need my help. I used to have one of those pocket-sized new testaments that someone’s always handing out, perhaps formative in my present resolve not to be button-holed for anything whatsoever. I’m pretty sure I just threw it in the garbage one day with my tarot cards (dumb fad purchase in my teens). Normally, I’d have given something like that in good shape to Goodwill, but it was for trash and that’s that.
I can read the bible online or refer to it, I don’t need a brick of paper, that particular brick of paper doesn’t deserve any precious real estate in my apartment. I probably won’t read it, I know it’s dumb, I’ve tried to read it, it’s just dull. There are a lot of other good books I think are more worth my while.
If I already owned a bible, rather than burn it or throw it away or refer to it, I would probably try to make some art from it. Whatever I could think of has probably been done though, so it might end up on fire at some point just to obliterate my failed project. Having discussed it, now I feel there’s no need to actually start it in the first place, good thing ’cause I don’t have a bible.
I have two bibles ‘from before’ on my bookshelf. A leather bound king james bible that my parents gave me when I was 11 (yeah my parents gave me a KJV when I was 11, explains why I’m so f*cked up now), and a NIV bible I stole from a church. But they’re mostly there because I just can’t bring myself to burn any book.
When I want to debate creationists I use the site “Bible Gateway” for my scripture quotes (I am certain they would not want my endorsement). It is a well indexed site with an easily searchable database of several translations. And having a KJV/NIV/NKJV/NASB/TLB/NLT/ESV bible in html format right on my bookmark bar saves a lot of typing.
While my ideal world would not have one person who believes the bible, it would still have a bible in every library.
“Where they burn books, so too will they in the end burn human beings.” (“Dort, wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen.”) – Heinrich Heine, 1821
There seems to be less and less stopping them all the time. We know they’ve done it before.
I’m am constantly amazed at how the person who comes up with these ideas doesn’t ever seem to take two seconds to think at how they would feel if somebody did something similar to them.
Yes, apparently Jesus’ Golden Rule doesn’t apply to these Christians…
They actually have that quotation on the Bebelplatz Memorial in Berlin, which is where I first encountered it. Very touching monument to remind us what the Nazis did to knowledge and books (and later, people) they didn’t agree with. Why in the world would any group want to resurrect a practice, regardless of how symbolic it is, that was used by the most hateful group modern history has ever seen? Hmmm the parallels, the parallels…!
kat’s quote sums it up. With the history of prior book burnings – especially those in Germany – this is rather frightening.
The state of mind to even propose something like that scares the living hell out of me.
Looking forward to see skeptics burning religious books.
Oh, wait…
Perhaps if we burned all the Bibles in the world this sort of crap would stop? No, perhaps not. Pity
http://xkcd.com
Damn!
They stole my idea.
O.K. then, I’ll do bibles.
Where books are burned in the end people will burn
–Heinrich Heine
I believe this is very true as well.
I’ve never really thought about that though. When I first exited religion I considered burning a bible (I have a bunch), but it wasn’t to bug anyone, I would’ve done it alone. I suppose it was more for my own personal benefit though. I became quite angry after leaving and for me it was more about finality; to show I no longer believe by breaking such a big rule and not fearing consequences. I guess that it was to prove to myself that I no longer believed as well.
But alas, I did not.
I did once. when I was about 15 or so some christian group came to my highschool to give every student a bible. We where told that we could not refuse it but could give it back afterward. Instead I took it home and burnt it.
In retrospect I think that it was a rather immature thing to do, though I did have the excuse of being immature at the time.
Book burners of all stripes are cowardly idiots — regardless of the book in question or why one would want to burn a particular book. These myopic morons don’t understand that if there is an idea you disagree with, then you use reason to demonstrate how such an idea is wrong. Resorting to book burning simply reveals you lack confidence in your own arguments against such ideas. It is nothing less than an act of cowardice.
These idiots simply think words on a printed page are synonymous with ideas. Book burning disqualifies one from having anything worthwhile to say on any subject. One merely becomes irrelevant.
Of course, the key word here is “reason” something which the fanatical rabble by definition lack…
I am just wondering, has the iluminatie not taken over all print-shops and slightly changed the bible and Quoran over the last 50 years so they can take over the world? Every new reprint they change 10 words so over 50 years the complete text changed?
For example:
In the beginning there was light.
Could be changed to:
In the beginning there was the illuminatie.
That isn’t thinking. That is a distinct lack of thinking. Plus, it’s spelled Illuminati. I don’t think they’re real but bad spelling must be stopped! Good Day.
Ah you did not hear the secret then: The illuminatie is a secret organisation of the illuminati. So secret even the illuminati never heard about them.
And the aliens are behind everything.
The aliens have nothing to do with this one. LOL
The freedom to express one’s self through book burning (flag burning, too) is tempered by my freedom to mock the douche-holes who do it. I’d say it’s a wash.
However, if someone attempts to burn MY books, there’s a-gonna be trouble.
Cheers!
P.S. My bibles have a prominent place in my library, next to the Greek myths, Douglas Adams, The Great Terry Pratchett, and of course, Grimm’s Fairy Tales. I’d say they all have equal value, and equal authority (i.e. none).
You think the bible has as much authority as Douglas Adams?!
For shame sir, for shame. I’m far more likely to follow Ford Prefect’s advice than anything in the bible.
Most interestingly, christians will side with muslims to stop gay rights and the abortion issue……then condemn them in the next breath. When has anyone ever seen a baptist ever kiss a catholic……when they come together to stop gay marriage. The rest of the time they condemn each other. When Iran is hanging gay people, the christians in North America are applauding. Still the Iranians are seen as servants of the devil. Religion condemns religion……hate, intolerance, stupidity and hypocracy rule. Will we ever have peace?
No.
“The only person a Catholic hates more than a Satanist is a Protestant.”
I don’t think they differentiate!
hello dear ,
my first point is that there above it is written that the islam is of the deveil ” We believe that Islam is of the devil, that it’s causing billions of people to go to hell, it is a deceptive religion, it is a violent religion and that is proven many, many times” Respected writter of that book
if you had studied the Holy Qurn You would even not imagen to burn a holy Quran . And if you are saying that is the cause of death of many people so islam is a peace full Religion it teaches us brother hood . if you are saying the islam is of the devil so you are wrong your own dear people
of “Israil ” that is the cause of killing many plastini’s what about them won’t you like to write a book over “Israil is of the devil”
You realize that he was QUOTING another person in that, right?
Are you new to the internet?
You realize this is an atheist site. We don’t believe in the devil and therefore not going to claim that anything is of the devil. Islam, like all other religions, was invented by people and deserve nothing but ridicule.
And if you would like to know about islam please before saying any word next time study that religion and than write any book ok dear writter Know did i said any wrong thing about ur religion no
offcourse not althoug you are not on the Right path But i did not say any thing about ur Religion
So dear be care full next time
Do us a favor, look at your keyboard. Go on, it’s okay, it won’t hurt you.
See that little dot? Right below “L”? Push it. Go on, it won’t bite. See? . and another . and some more ………….
That’s called a period, it lets your readers know when to take a breath so you don’t seem like some ranting breathless moron! I know, I know, it’s complicated. Master that, and we’ll move on to other punctuation like the comma(,) the semicolon(;) and my personal favorite, the question mark(?)!
You are so cute! Have a nice day!
And 9/11 was not falt of muslim it was just blamed over muslim dear where were those officer’s and janrals at that day offcourse they were out of that building arn’t they but before that they were own their duty continuously but it was work of Amirica
it is all planing aganst muslim’s But
“Muslims or members of any other faith should not stand idly by while the most basic tenets of their faith are violated or burned. All faithful should do everything in their power and within the law to defend their dignity. There are Christian terrorists as well as terrorists of every faith. Timothy James McVeigh used the same Bible as the little old lady up the street. Shall we arrest her too? Your viewpoint is asinine and xenophobic. Shame on you.”
I’m not going to bother answering the nutjob conspiracy crap.
Have you actually read the post and comments? You realize that It’s not this blog organizing the quran burning and most comments are critical of the idiots who organize it. However, your faith doesn’t deserve respect since it’s based on superstition and ignorance and promotes violence, treatment of women as property rather then human being etc. If you read this site a little bit you will notice that christianity is the religion who get criticized and ridiculed most often with other faiths taking some hits when a story related to them is in the news, so get of your poor prosecuted muslims horse and take a good look at your beliefs, you may not like what you see.
Drive by poster drove by and posted.
“Muslims or members of any other faith should not stand idly by while the most basic tenets of their faith are violated or burned. All faithful should do everything in their power and within the law to defend their dignity.”
How do muslims defend their faiths and by what laws? What methods do define their dignity?
Al-Furqaan Foundation has responded to this event with a proactive and educational approach. For every Quran burned on that day, they plan to counter it by distributing 50 copies of the Quran to non-muslims. Read more here: http://www.al-furqaan.org/al-furqaan-foundation-responds-to-the-quran-burning-in-florida-with-a-campaign-to-distribute-50-copies-of-quran-for-every-copy-burnt/
See, now THIS is a response I like. A nice peaceful way of telling book burners to go get stuffed.
“Do you want to burn the Quran?”
If you want to burn the Quran I invite you to read it first.
Then it is your choice to proceed; You will figure out that:
You will be burning Adam and Noah, Abraham and Issac, Jacob and Josef, David and Salomon, Moses and John….and all prophets and saints
You will be burning Jesus and his saint spirit ….
You will be burning Mary and her baby ….
You will be burning the Torah and the Bible ….
Go ahead
Burn the light to satisfy your darkness….
Burn the love to satisfy your hatred….
Burn the peace to satisfy your anger….
Burn the compassion to satisfy your cruelty….
Burn the knowledge to satisfy your ignorance….
Do all the above in your heart only….
Oh wait; would you still have a heart after the above?! Would you be Christian or Jewish, would you be even human?!
The Quran won’t be affected of what you would do, because the creator said about it:
“Surely We have revealed the Reminder and We will most surely be its guardian.” 15-9
You would burn the papers of the Quran, but even by burning it, it will show light… to all man kind.
It will keep saying: “Their intention is to extinguish God’s Light with their mouths: But GOD will complete His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).”61-9
And it will keep saying: “And the servants of the Beneficent God are they who walk on the earth in humbleness, and when the ignorant address them, they say: Peace!”25-63
Peace….Peace….Peace….
Hassan Yaghi, Seattle, Wa
Aug 26, 2010
hassan.yaghi@gmail.com
There is no point in burning the Quran, it is only a book with some crazy old-minded ideas. Burning he Quran doesn’t mean burning any fictional or historical character. And burning any book doesn’t make us less human, only more stupid.
I don’t want to burn the Quran, I want to use it to teach people why religion is silly.
Just read it….you’ll love it
Ladies and Gentlemen!
Burning the Quraan shows your peoples’ weakness, Weak people takes such action .
You do not have any rational reason to prove yourself that is why you plan to burn Quraan and be childish , like weak people.
If you are honest or true , why can you prove yourself in face to face discussion.
There is something common in you people that you believe in your books without reading it and comparing it with quraan , if you do so , you will convert to islam . becouse you will findout that , this is the book with has not been edit yet but Bible or many other of your books edited many times by many people.
Let me Advise you:-
before you burn it first read it and compare it with your books then everything will be cleared to you.
blah … blah … blah … different book same blather.
Ummmmm yeah… we all agree with you. This post condemns such ignorant actions! We may be skeptics, but we aren’t stupid!
Some of us have read the Quran and find it to be as fantastically stupid as the Bible. That said, there’s no need to burn it.
Look Ladies and Gentlemen!
we shouldn’t believe in a man and shouldn’t follow what he says , we are all human and we can think and decide . if he has the idea of burning quraan it is his idea. we can decide for ourself and we can findout the facts by reading the holy books. Lets decide by ourself for ourself .
If you have time so please follow this linke , you findout something which you are looking for(http://video.kylekeeton.com/2009/10/russian-video-babys-body-koran.html).
and
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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXjZX5ZHbL4)
Thank you.
“we shouldn’t believe in a man and shouldn’t follow what he says”
Agree. We shouldn’t believe in Mohammed and his dreams in particular.
“we can decide for ourself and we can findout the facts by reading the holy books. Lets decide by ourself for ourself ”
We can decide four ourselves. There are not facts in the holy books appart from some historical ones. Let’s decide by ourselves: we should think, not believe what someone wrote 1K years ago.
In a civilized society, there should be no room for inciting hatred between the groups and communities. Freedom Of Expresion right is a very fundamental right, but it should not be exploited to create hate. Quran is a very sacred book for 1.25 billion residents of planet earth. What is going to be achieved by its burning? It will only generate more hatred and animosity. Does the world really need it?
I think the church shows strength something that is disappearing in the US. Islam
has zero tolerance for anyone else. They burn our flag, bomb buildings, planes, cars,
be-head Infidels all because the Quraan says to fight and slay Infidels. They restrict
where churches are built, they will kill you if you destroy a Qurann. You will only show
strength when a member of your family is killed, you are ok with them. North
Florida is also holding a Quraan burning to support 9/11.
Barbarism.
Spreading Hatred Fear and Bigotry is supposed to be a show of support.
For who, the Terrorists or the Victims?
The left uses the word hate, We are showing that we will not be cowards to
someone faith, We will not be killed as Infidels for someone elses beliefs. You
will coward and hide behind Al-Qaida.
Being boastful of your own courage when you will suffer no personal consequences whatsoever for your actions isn’t really that remarkable.
You have know Idea what consequences we face, you are just an empty
shell. You only believe what the left tells you to believe. You contribute
nothing to society except paying for lawsuites to fight separation of church
and state.
Tsk. You know, not everybody is an American.
But please enlighten me. What consequences would you – you personally – face from participating in a Quran burning? What is the danger to you from doing this?
Being that you are in a third world country you should know that
Al-Qaida has sympathizers, even here in North Florida you will
get death threats.
You sure that it’s because of your usual ass Wipery?
So let me see if I get this right.
- If you’re not an American, you live in the third world.
- If you don’t support book burning, you are an al-Qaida sympathiser.
- If someone doesn’t agree with you in whatever way, they are America-hating lefties.
- Al-Qaida is out to get you personally.
Seems like a classic case of I-can’t-get-over-how-important-I-am.
@trj
v400ett sounds like the normal sort of idiot who sometimes turns up here although I must say, I’m sort of hoping that point four is true!
I love the smell of fresh troll in the afternoon.
Mmmm. I’d activate the moron containment system, but I think watching his arguments get pwned is more productive.
[Personal abuse about Skippy deleted]
- Custador.
Tell me skippy how many young boys do you have in the cellar?
I don’t remember him ever introducing himself as father Skippy.
You have know idea what consequences we face
You are just an empty Shell.
You only believe what the left tells you to face.
You contribute nothing but Hell
Paying lawsuits for separation of church and state
Killing babies every time you Mast-ta-bate.
Sunny you are on a roll, now what type of background music? Hip-
Hop. Video? You on your knees and just before al-qaida cuts your
head off you see steve hawking and ask him to send aliens to save you.
Good Stuff
Ridiculing tea-brained idiots is easy.
When you set the bar as low as you do, anyone that steps over it must seem like a Rockstar.
You know with a few minor alterations you could have made that Rhyme.
The left uses the word hate
We’re not cowards to fate
We will not be killed as infidels for someone’s beliefs
You will coward and hid behind Al-Quadiaefs.
Al-Qaida operatiefs.
That is pretty good….missing something! Abortion!!
Something about killing unborn childern, that is right up your
alley sunny day. Any Ideas?
Baby burgers, yumm. One more thing, You’re either a crappy poe or a true moron.
You flatter me yoav, may you NOT get your 72 virgins
I’m gonna go with “true moron.”
Come on sunny you are not even trying, a ” teabagger” no no way off.
quran killed more than 100000 beatiful iranian boys and girls so burning quran make persian people happy .and we hope islam is also burn like quran.+++++++++
Agreed Persian Agreed
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