I believe “Yes we can!” backwards is “Nac ew sey” which is what it sounds like to me. Use some common sense, I can see how it can sound like that when distorted by reverse play, but he is clearly, and logically, saying “Nac ew sey” that is what “Yes we can” is backwards. It is funny how you guys like to demonize our leader. I am sure I could find some stuff on Bush too. You nuts.
Touche. People are ignoring such obvious facts as -
Democracy as we know it is a complete and utter sham. It’s an artificially created rift, a schism if you will, the intent of which is to splinter our nation (and others which operate under a similar system) and keep people bickering over inconsequential distractions whilst our noble leaders start illegal wars, launder money and generally just get away with whatever they want.
Obama, our “great leader”, has rescinded on pretty much EVERY promise he made during his campaign. And I must reinforce the fact that these were promises, stated in the absolute language of such – he didn’t say, “I’ll do my best to make this happen”, he said “I promise to make this happen.” Now if I were part of his mostly liberal democratic voter base I would be absolutely up in arms right now (pun definitely intended). He’s now bombing the crap out of Libya, going over the heads of Congress (most recent quote: “I don’t need to get to the Congressional question”) and his voter base isn’t upset over this? I thought he was voted in to withdraw troops – not stretch our resources further. So all this money being funneled into the corporate war machine, and billionaire Mayor Guilliani has the chutzpah to start cutting public funding for necessities such as their fire departments? Remember, crap rolls downhill, from Capitol Hill, to New York and California, and then to everyone else. What we are dealing with here are globalists – don’t believe me, read some effin’ Henry Kissinger. He’s got plenty of books published. They don’t try to hide this crap. The President may be different, but the agenda is the same. Until people start calling it like it is, the illusion will persist and more 3rd world countries will get bombed and exploited (and for the record, the only reason UN/NATO/America is going after Qaddafi is because he won’t bow to the Zionist-controlled IMF, and also because Israel wants to spearhead an offensive into Iran. Listen to Netanyahu sometime, he states their intent loud and clear.) Then once they’re out of 3rd world countries to exploit, then we all become 3rd world, suffering under the boot of totalitarianism while the Richie Riches have drunken orgies in their ivory towers, surrounded by heavily armed goons.
Oh, and this is just scratching the surface of the more pragmatic issues at hand. There is so much more to it that it could drive the uninitiated absolutely bat-guano insane. But therein lies the challenge. Do you dare seek the truth, even if it might ostracize you from those who don’t? There are many people who support the status quo out of fear, but who engineered the status quo? Divide and conquer is the motto of the globalists (at least insofar as it applies to controlling the masses.)
Like I said, if you don’t believe me, just read literature published by Kissinger and his ilk. Then read some early Zionist literature. Then tell me I’m a kook. : )
None of the statement you made on this tread make me think that trying to have a rational discussion with you is an option, so I’m not going to bother. If you want to run to your tin foil hatted brethren and tell them how you stumped an evil atheist with your cleverness, go for it.
Everything else aside, as a moderator I’m gonna ask you to dial down this sort of thing. I let this one through the filter mainly so I could address this cautionary note to you, and will not let another.
[Looks like it was expunged by a less tolerant moderator. I don't at all blame him. Don't do it again!]
Apologies, ‘Nope, I didn’t realise you’d approved it – though since I’ve been letting Mouse’s comments through the filter all evening, I should probably have guessed. Put it back if you want to, but I’m not gonna!
Graphic threats of violent rape are beyond crude, and might well be extremely distressing to some readers. I’m not known for mild language, but that most certainly isn’t a comment I want tagged “Approved by Custador”. My standards may be opaque and inconsistent, but not on this one.
Nah, the comment will remained pwned. The only reason I let it through was to tell him to cut it out. You also make a good point re: extremely distressing.
Ursa, you’re not wrong, though. It really was as scathing an indictment of his point as anyone could write; it’s kinda funny he did it to himself.
YES WE CAN, is NAC EW SEY spelt backwards yes, but you’re not just SAYING it backwards. THE ENTIRE SOUND WAVE needs to be reversed. If you want further proof, record yourself saying boob/racecar and reverse it. I promise you it won’t sound remotely close to racecar/boob.
If you turn the doodle they had on xmas exactly 34.678945 degrees left and squint at it from 2.9835646 meters while standing on your head it spells happy holidays, which as we were told by any moron on CBN and fix is a vicious attack on christianity.
I would make it “buy my T-Shirts” and then have T-Shirts printed out. If backwards messages make you do things then I am going to make money not tell you to worship satan…
OK, so is Obama an atheist, a Muslim, or a Satanist or a fascist or a communist or a socialist? Will these idiots please make up their minds?
Interesting that none of these morons can merely be opposed to his policies and ideas by countering them with different policies and ideas. No, they have to demonize their opponents (in this case literally).
If you pay attention to what people are truly criticizing about Obama and stop paying attention to distractions such as these. If you did that then you’d know there are millions of intelligent people with valid opinions and concerns about Obama’s policies.
And talking about demonizing opponents without countering them with different policies and ideas…what’s your opinion of the tea partiers?
Oh, come on. Are you just trying to start an argument? Or are you are you proceeding from the assumption that everyone here has an unalloyed love of President Obama? Or both?
Which set of tea partiers are you talking about? You have those which only want less government or the ones that want to make this a true christian nation. There are to many different groups to actually say what the tea party as a whole stands for and that makes it tough to say how you feel about it as a whole. Like most groups there are things that are worth supporting but then there are the fringe elements that want the end of the US Constitution as we know it. Myself I think the tea party will end up being the worst possible selection for the American people.
OK, so is Obama an atheist, a Muslim, or a Satanist or a fascist or a communist or a socialist? Will these idiots please make up their minds?
Well, what they really want to do is call him a nigger. But they can’t, so they have all this unfocused rage that they channel into the baseless accusation of the moment. They don’t actually have to make sense because they’re just surrogate ideas for what they really want to say which is that he should be picking cotton and not be the President. Each one of those things you listed is a ‘wink wink’ to other crazy racist white people.
OBAMA IN HIS WORDS…IS MUSLIM
In this video we hear in Osamas own words that he is Muslim. Exclaims that we ARE NOT a Christian nation and that Islam is a part of America.
Barack Obama stars as himself in: I am a Muslim
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKqFBpk_1Eo
At the risk of troll-baiting – I did watch it. I’d quite like to know what the second half of the sentence was in the clip where Obama says John McCain hasn’t talked about his (Obama’s) Muslim faith. I reckon there’s a good chance he went on to say, in effect, that the reason is that he doesn’t have one.
I watched it the last time you posted it, less then a week ago. I commented on it then in detail which obviously was a waste of time. I can’t remember exactly which tread it was on, why don’t you remind us.
Now I’m no fan of Obama, or any other politician for that matter, but that’s not my point. My point is – America was never founded on true Christian values. It was founded on deception and genocide. A land ripe for the taking! Just had to kill thousands of ignorant savages first. Oh, and if you’re an evangelical Zionist, then you’re not a true Christian either. (I’m not saying you are, but I’m just stating for the record.) Remember, Hagee and his ilk want to USHER IN WORLD WAR 3 USING THE BIBLE AS JUSTIFICATION. They are murderous scum. If Jesus were here right now, he’d say, “Stop giving these bastards money and power! They’ve subverted my message to further their own insane goals – AT YOUR EXPENSE!”
Seriously, I wish atheists would stop using this argument, because it implies that Jesus and Christianity are awesome, it’s just modern-day Christians that aren’t living up to it. In reality I think it’s exactly the opposite: Christianity sucks, Jesus had a lot of bankrupt ideas mixed in with the nice ones, and modern-day Christians, to their credit, mostly ignore the Bible and follow modern-day secular morality.
However I didn’t even get to the idea that the Bible was created for the intent purpose of religious brainwashing, so you kind of pre-empted me there.
Still, if Christians would follow their own basic tenets of love and compassion, and ignore the more suspect aspects of the New Testament, then things on this earth would probably be much more peaceful.
Oh, and I’m not atheist. Not that you were accusing me of being one, but just in case you had that idea.. Also, I have no problem with any kind of religious belief. It’s just the way people try to organize it into ideology. Obviously a man-made construct. To me, religion and spirituality seem to inhabit two different spheres that occasionally overlap, but for the most part remain separate.
“Spiritual” = “A particular brand of emotional experience, or emotional exploitation”. Sounds a lot like religion to me, but my point is that “spiritual” is a bullshit word used by people who don’t want to admit that what they’re experiencing is either euphoria or a sense of mystery, both of which should be filed firmly under EMOTION. It’s a crap way of pretending that emotions have an intellectual base. I have a bit of a thing about this…
I will concur that there is a powerful emotional aspect to what I am referring to – however to write it off as purely emotional is naive at best. However, since we are talking about the “intangible” here, and since many people operate in a similar manner as say, the character Silas from Heroes – that is to say they can only understand something if they are able to look at it with their ocular perception – than such naivete can be forgiven as the result of a lack of experience.
And also, what I am referring to here was never anything that was mediated for me by any religious institution. It is something which is an inherent part of our DNA but is something which is usually either downplayed, ignored or flat out denied. I am not responsible for these things, it is what it is.
Oh please! You’re so full of crap! Don’t insult me because you swallowed the Kool Aid and I didn’t!
“such naivete can be forgiven as the result of a lack of experience”
Bollocks! Believing in spirituality is the same thing as God of the gaps – You experienced something, you don’t know why, so you’ve filed it under “spiritual” for no reason whatever but that you wanted to. I’m not being naive – YOU are being gullible, lazy, lacking the ability to enquire and without the capacity for critical thinking.
“It is something which is an inherent part of our DNA but is something which is usually either downplayed, ignored or flat out denied. I am not responsible for these things, it is what it is.”
Study the inherent patterns of nature. That is the only proof people needed before Empire and Religion stepped in and offered their surrogate path of obedience through coercion, manipulation and violence. Even modern science, with all it’s arrogance and intellectual elitism acknowledges these patterns, patterns that are inherent in all organic and inorganic matter. If you are not riding the spiral then you are just a puppy, chasing your tail around and around and around.
Also, it was you who hurled the first stone with your highly subjective “definitions” and claims of bullshit. I have no problem with your ideas, opinions and intellectual rationales. I do, however, have problems with disingenuous statements that only aim to incite rather than educate.
And you are a nursing student, n’est pas? Isn’t everything you do done under the sigil of the Caduceus? Heal thyself indeed.
LOLOLOLOLOL! See my earlier comment about not knowing why things are how they are so filing it under “spiritual”. Once again: “You are being gullible, lazy, lacking the ability to enquire and without the capacity for critical thinking.” Add arrogant to that: YOU don’t know why things how they are, so you decide that nobody does. Yeah, spiritual… Idiot!
“I do, however, have problems with disingenuous statements that only aim to incite rather than educate”
From somebody who’s spouting such unmitigated bullshit, that’s just funny!
“Isn’t everything you do done under the sigil of the Caduceus?”
So I automatically believe in Greek mythology? Riiiiight. Fuck thyself indeed…
All systems of sufficient complexity contain emergent phenomena. Some of these have, due to human proclivity for pattern recognition and specific aesthetic biases, are quite beautiful. Combine the aesthetic beauty with that wonderful blast of dopamine and endorphins that your brain gives you as a reward for recognizing an intricate pattern, and there you have your “spiritual experience”.
Some folk like to sentimentalize and mythologize these experiences. As metaphors, they have great utility for communication regarding experiences, especially of awe or ecstasy. But they are, if taken too literally or seriously, extremely sloppy metaphysics at best. The mistake is in believing that one’s feelings about an experience are necessarily connected to any fact of the matter.
You sound like Bill Maher. Not a very endearing quality, I’ll admit. Oh, and I wasn’t suggesting that you automatically believe in anything. But judging by your response I can only conclude that throwing ideas at you is like playing frisbee with a toddler. It’s going to go over your head every time.
Fritz Herber. Enrico Fermi. Phillip Allen Sharp. Antonio Egas Moniz. I don’t have time right now to look them all up. It doesn’t matter anyways. The whole world’s fucked and none of this matters. I’m just going to trust in vague nebulous energy forces and hope one day they get me out of this dimension so I don’t have to deal with any more fucking globalist crap. Educated or not, none of you are enlightened, except maybe in the atomic glow of a melting nuclear reactor. Let’s hope HAARP is really a super weapon and we all burn in the giant irradiated sewer that once was planet Earth. Lower ganglia would mean fuck-all if there was no more territory to play pissing wars over.
Fritz Haber won a Nobel prize for CHEMISTRY for synthesising nitrates for fertilisers, without which global agricultural yields would be about a fifth of what they are now. He also invented a method for synthesising Chlorine gas, but he won no prizes for that.
Enrico Fermi built a nuclear generator (NOT a bomb), and won a Nobel prize for PHYSICS.
Phillip Allen Sharp won a Nobel prize in MEDICINE for his work on genetics (which has NOT been weaponised).
António Egas Moniz won a Nobel prize in MEDICINE (jointly with Walter Rudolf Hess) for mapping the areas of the brain involved in the control of internal organs. Again, not used as a weapon.
None of them has a Nobel Peace Prize. And none of them awarded themselves a damned thing. You, Sir, are still full of shit.
To Elemenope: I could name many things. Weapons of warfare. Eugenics. The culture of “expertism” which seeks to placate the ignorant masses by telling them what is best. As for intellectual elitism: try to push any idea through the academic proper which does not conform to their goals or standards, or which is counter-intuitive to the greater agenda, and see how quickly they ostracize and expel you. These are the same kind of people who ridiculed and ostracized Nikolai Tesla and (it is rumored) pilfered his ideas for the cause of advanced warfare. Also the same kind of people who award themselves Nobel Peace Prizes for making discoveries which are ultimately used to further the cause of warfare. All this research on atoms and nuclear technology, for what? Bombs and volatile reactors? And that’s just a piece of it.
Now I’m not trying to suggest that science is bad, or that all these Nobel Peace Prize winners are a bunch of warmongers. I’m suggesting that science has been hijacked and not ultimately for the greater benefit of humankind. If this were not so, why would governments invest so much in fields such as scalar and biochemical weaponry?
As for unconditional love and compassion, you are right, it is not an inherent quality of nature – rather it is a uniquely human quality. I apologize if there was a lack of clarification in my previous comment. Also, I appreciate your own comments on the emergent phenomena of complex systems – I have read as much before in the past and it makes for a compelling argument.
To Custador: You are seriously underestimating or undervaluing emotion and what it is, what it does. Our so-called “reptilian brain” can only comprehend emotion on an intellectual scale. Adversely, religious adherents and the like who experience forms of emotional ecstasy during worship, or maybe concerts and football games, are more than likely lacking the intellectual comprehension necessary to realize that they are being basely manipulated. If they do have such comprehension than I suppose that means they enjoy being manipulated because it must be the only way they can “get off”.
There are higher levels of emotional energy which don’t require blind adulation or Freudian psycho-sexual manipulation to experience (quite the opposite in fact.) But if you don’t like this idea, fine. Then it’s all just chemical and in the end we are nothing more than primitive beasts, all fighting and fucking for food, progeny and territory.
Don’t blame scientists for how engineers are used by politicians to abuse science.
“Eugenics”
Eugenics was an extremely un-scientific movement. The fact that you don’t know why speaks volumes about your ignorance.
“Also the same kind of people who award themselves Nobel Peace Prizes for making discoveries which are ultimately used to further the cause of warfare.”
Again, name ONE. Bet you won’t.
“You are seriously underestimating or undervaluing emotion and what it is, what it does.”
No I’m not. I’m being realistic about what it is and not getting all woo about it.
“Our so-called “reptilian brain” can only comprehend emotion on an intellectual scale”
Congrats, you fail at neuroscience. Go and find out what part of the brain is called the “reptilian brain”, then look up what that part of the brain does.
“There are higher levels of emotional energy which don’t require blind adulation or Freudian psycho-sexual manipulation to experience (quite the opposite in fact).”
Lol – Use of the word “energy” in a nebulous and meaningless context. You’re really piling on the woo cliches.
“Then it’s all just chemical and in the end we are nothing more than primitive beasts, all fighting and fucking for food, progeny and territory.”
Now you’re getting it. The fact that you WANT it to be about more doesn’t make it so. Throughout this discussion, you have ignored me every time I’ve asked you for any kind of evidence. You, sir, are wrong.
That’s some serious confusion between science, technology, engineering, ideology and politics mouse has going here.
Science: discovering electricity and nuclear fission
Engineering, technology, ideology and politics: deciding to use these to build electric chairs and nuclear weapons.
The so-called ‘reptilian brain’ has nothing to do with what most people call casually call ‘intellect’. That is a property of the mammalian neocortex.
Custador hit, more-or-less, the points I would have responded on. I get the sense that your complaint about science is not actually at all about science (the rigorous process of empirical discovery) and more with how some people have taken the fruits of those discoveries and used them to bad ends. For what it’s worth, in the general case human beings are healthier, wealthier, happier, and safer than they have ever been at any other point in human history, due almost exclusively to implementations of scientific and other empirical discoveries, so although it can be shown that this or that scientific discovery has been used to bad ends, on the whole science has been a great boon to humanity.
Even the bare fact that we are having this conversation in the first place is a profound testament of that fact.
As for unconditional love and compassion, you are right, it is not an inherent quality of nature – rather it is a uniquely human quality. I apologize if there was a lack of clarification in my previous comment.
Humans have the capacity for great love and compassion, sure. Actually, pretty much all pack-social animals (especially higher mammals) have the demonstrated capacity to sacrifice instinctually for one another, attend to wounds of injured pack members, care for young in common, and so forth. Empathy, I’d say, comes closer to being a unique human quality simply due to humans’ ability to vicariously experience implied emotional states of other creatures, but there’s nothing mysterious about it. It’s simply an expression of the ability to mentally manipulate abstractions combined with the activity of mirror neurons. Experiencing empathy makes it seem awesome and special in a qualitative way, but as I said before, one’s feelings about one’s experiences don’t in any way necessarily correspond with facts of the matter.
“To me, religion and spirituality seem to inhabit two different spheres that occasionally overlap, but for the most part remain separate.”
I disagree: “religion” and “spirituality” are just two slightly different forms of irrational bullshit, in the same category as homeopathy, crystals, power bracelets, astrology, etc. (Actually to be more precise, I would say that “religion” is one subset of “spirituality”.)
Then I guess the only thing I can say which is truly self-evident and needs no empirical evidence to back up is this: eliminate the irrational religious and spiritual elements from the overall picture and keep the rational, scientific element and you’ve still got massive problems.
And it’s still rational, scientific people who use religion as a vehicle for control. I’d go as far as to venture that it was this same school of thought which gave birth to religion. It’s all about CONTROL. It’s psy-ops from the ancient world, and it still works just as good as it did back then. Convince people that there’s some sort of divine justification for committing atrocities and they will use any weapon that science can pump out on whatever populace religion says they should kill.
There’s an important element missing from most of these conversations. It’s something which both sides seem to be sorely lacking. It has nothing to do with god, aliens, crystals, Atlantis, whatever it is that people obsess over but are unable to prove. It’s something far more fundamental to the human experience.
It’s unconditional love and compassion. Any religion that tries to put their stamp on that is lying. And of course, science just doesn’t give a shit. Everything else is just conjecture as far as internet message boards are concerned.
“eliminate the irrational religious and spiritual elements from the overall picture and keep the rational, scientific element and you’ve still got massive problems.”
Name one. Name ONE. Just one.
” And it’s still rational, scientific people who use religion as a vehicle for control.”
Laughable as well as patently false. The most controlling figures in US religion are rabid Creatards who think science is evil. You’re actually babbling now.
“It’s unconditional love and compassion.”
Emotions. Not spiritualism, emotions. And what explains emotions? Science.
“And of course, science just doesn’t give a shit.”
Quite rightly. Science seeks to explain things with facts. There’s nothing emotive about that.
Obviously it’s fake. Playing “yes we can” in reverse would sound like “nac eew sey”. They’re not showing the reversed video because it would demonstrate the editing they had to do to produce these sound bites.
Wait. If you play a message backwards you should get the opposite of the true meaning. The opposite of “Thank you Satan” is “Praise be Jeebus” so I don’t know what their problem is.
I find this stuff amusing. The way the human brain hears what it’s TOLD to hear is awesome. You’d think that the person who took the time to do this would realize they could do something more productive.
Christians should quit speaking english and start babbling in tongues.
God: Can you do it? (God speaks in english for not all can interprete tongues)
Christians: Yes we can.
Ignorant noise, created by soft headed fundies tyring to scare people, again. They did this same crap in the late 70′s early 80′s with rock music. However, a group of psychologists found that if you do not get “the words” being “spoken” ahead of time, you don’t hear what is claimed to be said. Our brains look for patterns, but only in recognizable forms. Suggestion is a powerful tool, but it is not fact.
If one had the time, listening to the bible backwards might render some very strange “satanic’ messages. Anything heard backwards can be strange but not as strange as nitwits who spend time listening to messages being played backwards.
I thought this must be fake, but then I recorded it and played it backward and it is legit. Once I realized that, I laughed my ass off! Personally, I think the fact that it is real makes it even funnier. Someone actually thinks that he came up with “Yes, we can” because it sounds vaguely like “Thank you, Satan” backward??
Wait, I think I know what happened. Obama was meeting with a team of advisers and he said, “Even though I go to a Christian church, but am a secret Muslim, the most important thing for me to do is thank Satan in every speech. But, I don’t want those right wingers to know what I am saying. Ideas?” Then one guy says, “I’ve got it. Record yourself saying, ‘Thank you, Satan.’ Then we will slow it down and play it backward to see if it sounds like any phrase you can repeat at your rallies.” And “Yes, we can” was born!!
I thought this must be fake, but then I recorded it and played it backward and it is legit. Once I realized that, I laughed my ass off! Personally, I think the fact that it is real makes it even funnier. Someone actually thinks that he came up with “Yes, we can” because it sounds vaguely like “Thank you, Satan” backward??
No, the argument (so to speak) says that subconscious messages embed themselves in the things we say, sometimes backwards. Obama doesn’t have to carefully construct his speech to say something forward and something else backward — it just HAPPENS because he is a Satanist!!!!!!!!
Of course, that’s just as retarded if not more so, but, yknow. They’re idiots.
#1, what’s wrong with Satan? He seems to have a terrible reputation, but what has Satan ever actually done to you over the long course of your life? I can list the crimes of God and Church off the top of my head, they happen every day. With that in mind I would accept President Obama confessing to a faith that challenges the boundaries of repression. Yes we can!
#2, Obama is not a Satanist, and believing in such things without evidence is borderline stupid.
Being a real follower of Satan would be pretty stupid, as he is the bad guy and, probably, he doesn’t deserve anyone trusting him. Who would follow an inmoral, vengeative, hatefull, unfair, sadistic, liar, misogynistic, mass-killer, genocidal God? Oh, wait…
At least Satan is evil by nature, or so we’re told, so there’s a reason why he chooses to do evil things. Except that in the Bible he never really does much.
God, on the other hand, is allegedly good by nature, so you’d expect him do good things. Except the Bible makes him seem more like a petty, jealous, vindictive thug fully capable of doing evil things on the slightest whim.
According to the Bible Satan has killed about ten people. God? Millions.
You’ve just hit on the focal point of a popular argument in certain spheres today – that the “God” of the Bible, Jehovah or Yahweh, however you want to call it – is indeed the same Satan which “He” purportedly is at war with.
Kind of like how the American government engineered a “terrorist threat” in order to scare the populace into thinking that they’re the good guys.
Oh, wait… don’t these people claim to be Christians? Then they should know all about war and deception.
However you want to cut it – the phrase “Yes We Can” was used as a meme, a sort of subliminal mind control agent. Notice how Obama reinforces this phrase, over and over again. He uses it inbetween sentences in almost sermon-like fashion. (If this were a church he’d be saying “Amen” and “Hallelujah” in between said sentences.) Also notice the sheep-like repetition by the crowd, almost as if they are in a trance or a spell. Welcome to the magical world of brainwashing, repetition style!
Other popular memes on the TV today – “War”, “Fear”, “Terrorism”, “Islam”, “Jihad”, “Bomb”, “Morality”, etc.
This reminded me most of an obsessed loonie’s attempt, some years back, to prove that “Alice in Wonderland” was a secret confession in anagram form that Lewis Carroll/Charles Dodgson was actually Jack the Ripper. It turns out that if you rearrange the letters in “Jabberwocky” (“‘Twas brillig, and the slivey toves…”) you can come up with “Bet I beat my glands til, / With hand-sword I slay the evil gender. / A slimey theme; borrow gloves, / And masturbate the hog more!”
They were shouting yes we can at the Cristine O’Donnell victory rally, does that make them satan worshipers as well? She did claim to being involved with satanists in high school which make me wonder why is it always the fundie christians that get invited to the satanic rituals and an evil atheist like me never hear of them.
sorry, all I hear is “knack we satin”. people are so stupid. what is really sad about this is the amount of people that buy into this kind of dishonest mudslinging.
My 14 year old brings me this youtube video of all this hoopla of “yes we can” and “thank you satan”
etc…so i said let’s do it We used audacity software and did both phrases in reverse. Sorry it surely does sound like “thank you satan” to me. You can dl the software and be the judge for yourself. It is what it is.
It’s audio pareidolia, and its cause (the tendancy of humans to sense patterns even when none exist) is well proven. You could play the same thing backwards to a person who didn’t speak English, and they’d hear a phrase in their own language. So yes, it is what it is, but it isn’t what you’re saying it is.
You gotta be shittin’ me!
No because ur to big a turd…ahhahhahhaha
I believe “Yes we can!” backwards is “Nac ew sey” which is what it sounds like to me. Use some common sense, I can see how it can sound like that when distorted by reverse play, but he is clearly, and logically, saying “Nac ew sey” that is what “Yes we can” is backwards. It is funny how you guys like to demonize our leader. I am sure I could find some stuff on Bush too. You nuts.
You, sir, are ignoring the obvious.
Careful, Ignoring the obvious is contagious.
Touche. People are ignoring such obvious facts as -
Democracy as we know it is a complete and utter sham. It’s an artificially created rift, a schism if you will, the intent of which is to splinter our nation (and others which operate under a similar system) and keep people bickering over inconsequential distractions whilst our noble leaders start illegal wars, launder money and generally just get away with whatever they want.
Obama, our “great leader”, has rescinded on pretty much EVERY promise he made during his campaign. And I must reinforce the fact that these were promises, stated in the absolute language of such – he didn’t say, “I’ll do my best to make this happen”, he said “I promise to make this happen.” Now if I were part of his mostly liberal democratic voter base I would be absolutely up in arms right now (pun definitely intended). He’s now bombing the crap out of Libya, going over the heads of Congress (most recent quote: “I don’t need to get to the Congressional question”) and his voter base isn’t upset over this? I thought he was voted in to withdraw troops – not stretch our resources further. So all this money being funneled into the corporate war machine, and billionaire Mayor Guilliani has the chutzpah to start cutting public funding for necessities such as their fire departments? Remember, crap rolls downhill, from Capitol Hill, to New York and California, and then to everyone else. What we are dealing with here are globalists – don’t believe me, read some effin’ Henry Kissinger. He’s got plenty of books published. They don’t try to hide this crap. The President may be different, but the agenda is the same. Until people start calling it like it is, the illusion will persist and more 3rd world countries will get bombed and exploited (and for the record, the only reason UN/NATO/America is going after Qaddafi is because he won’t bow to the Zionist-controlled IMF, and also because Israel wants to spearhead an offensive into Iran. Listen to Netanyahu sometime, he states their intent loud and clear.) Then once they’re out of 3rd world countries to exploit, then we all become 3rd world, suffering under the boot of totalitarianism while the Richie Riches have drunken orgies in their ivory towers, surrounded by heavily armed goons.
Oh, and this is just scratching the surface of the more pragmatic issues at hand. There is so much more to it that it could drive the uninitiated absolutely bat-guano insane. But therein lies the challenge. Do you dare seek the truth, even if it might ostracize you from those who don’t? There are many people who support the status quo out of fear, but who engineered the status quo? Divide and conquer is the motto of the globalists (at least insofar as it applies to controlling the masses.)
Like I said, if you don’t believe me, just read literature published by Kissinger and his ilk. Then read some early Zionist literature. Then tell me I’m a kook. : )
Excellent parody! *slow golf clap*
I WISH I were making this up.
You should get some more tin foil, the mind control beams are starting to break through.
Are you serious? That’s all you can resort to – cheap cop outs?
Spit some knowledge first. Otherwise you’re just weakening your own credibility.
None of the statement you made on this tread make me think that trying to have a rational discussion with you is an option, so I’m not going to bother. If you want to run to your tin foil hatted brethren and tell them how you stumped an evil atheist with your cleverness, go for it.
Wow. Sorry, Yoav. This one probably doesn’t even have the opposable thumbs required to fold itself a tinfoil hat.
Everything else aside, as a moderator I’m gonna ask you to dial down this sort of thing. I let this one through the filter mainly so I could address this cautionary note to you, and will not let another.
[Looks like it was expunged by a less tolerant moderator. I don't at all blame him. Don't do it again!]
Apologies, ‘Nope, I didn’t realise you’d approved it – though since I’ve been letting Mouse’s comments through the filter all evening, I should probably have guessed. Put it back if you want to, but I’m not gonna!
Meh. The language was crude, but go ahead and put it back. It lays out mouse’s intellectual position pretty clearly.
Graphic threats of violent rape are beyond crude, and might well be extremely distressing to some readers. I’m not known for mild language, but that most certainly isn’t a comment I want tagged “Approved by Custador”. My standards may be opaque and inconsistent, but not on this one.
Put it back if you want to, but I’m not gonna!
Nah, the comment will remained pwned. The only reason I let it through was to tell him to cut it out. You also make a good point re: extremely distressing.
Ursa, you’re not wrong, though. It really was as scathing an indictment of his point as anyone could write; it’s kinda funny he did it to himself.
You actually did mouse’s reputation a big favor by deleting it, and I suppose there’s no help for it. I have to agree with your reasoning.
YES WE CAN, is NAC EW SEY spelt backwards yes, but you’re not just SAYING it backwards. THE ENTIRE SOUND WAVE needs to be reversed. If you want further proof, record yourself saying boob/racecar and reverse it. I promise you it won’t sound remotely close to racecar/boob.
Only in America
I dunno… seems to me every country has their kooks.
True
We seem to have more than our fair share of them though.
And what do you base that on…your political intolerances?
Playing stuff backwards, it’s so 1970s.
Yeah, Satan really needs to get with the times. I though he was supposed to be hip, but it’s like he’s not even trying anymore.
Yeah. Shouldn’t Satan be, I dunno, flashing subliminal “OBEY SATAN” messages on Google or something?
If you turn the doodle they had on xmas exactly 34.678945 degrees left and squint at it from 2.9835646 meters while standing on your head it spells happy holidays, which as we were told by any moron on CBN and fix is a vicious attack on christianity.
Hey skip…stuff it…
Stuff what? Turkeys? Envelopes? Your Momma?
Up ur hole with a jelly role fuck face
Dude… what’s your f*cking problem?
… tha fuck?
I would make it “buy my T-Shirts” and then have T-Shirts printed out. If backwards messages make you do things then I am going to make money not tell you to worship satan…
OK, so is Obama an atheist, a Muslim, or a Satanist or a fascist or a communist or a socialist? Will these idiots please make up their minds?
Interesting that none of these morons can merely be opposed to his policies and ideas by countering them with different policies and ideas. No, they have to demonize their opponents (in this case literally).
The only thing cowards can sell is fear.
If you pay attention to what people are truly criticizing about Obama and stop paying attention to distractions such as these. If you did that then you’d know there are millions of intelligent people with valid opinions and concerns about Obama’s policies.
And talking about demonizing opponents without countering them with different policies and ideas…what’s your opinion of the tea partiers?
what’s your opinion of the tea partiers?
Oh, come on. Are you just trying to start an argument? Or are you are you proceeding from the assumption that everyone here has an unalloyed love of President Obama? Or both?
Which set of tea partiers are you talking about? You have those which only want less government or the ones that want to make this a true christian nation. There are to many different groups to actually say what the tea party as a whole stands for and that makes it tough to say how you feel about it as a whole. Like most groups there are things that are worth supporting but then there are the fringe elements that want the end of the US Constitution as we know it. Myself I think the tea party will end up being the worst possible selection for the American people.
Entropist September 18, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Well, what they really want to do is call him a nigger. But they can’t, so they have all this unfocused rage that they channel into the baseless accusation of the moment. They don’t actually have to make sense because they’re just surrogate ideas for what they really want to say which is that he should be picking cotton and not be the President. Each one of those things you listed is a ‘wink wink’ to other crazy racist white people.
Not sure BO can make up his mind.
OBAMA IN HIS WORDS…IS MUSLIM
In this video we hear in Osamas own words that he is Muslim. Exclaims that we ARE NOT a Christian nation and that Islam is a part of America.
Barack Obama stars as himself in: I am a Muslim
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKqFBpk_1Eo
“Exclaims that we ARE NOT a Christian nation and that Islam is a part of America.”
You say that as if its a Bad Thing ™ and as if its not true.
Didn’t you post the exact same comment on another tread a few days ago? And just to be clear it didn’t get any less moronic.
Moronic. How would you know if you did not watch the vid idiot.
At the risk of troll-baiting – I did watch it. I’d quite like to know what the second half of the sentence was in the clip where Obama says John McCain hasn’t talked about his (Obama’s) Muslim faith. I reckon there’s a good chance he went on to say, in effect, that the reason is that he doesn’t have one.
Srsly…sk, what the f*ck is your problem, exactly?
I watched it the last time you posted it, less then a week ago. I commented on it then in detail which obviously was a waste of time. I can’t remember exactly which tread it was on, why don’t you remind us.
Christians murdered Indians (Native Americans).
Tell me, was that very Christ-like?
Now I’m no fan of Obama, or any other politician for that matter, but that’s not my point. My point is – America was never founded on true Christian values. It was founded on deception and genocide. A land ripe for the taking! Just had to kill thousands of ignorant savages first. Oh, and if you’re an evangelical Zionist, then you’re not a true Christian either. (I’m not saying you are, but I’m just stating for the record.) Remember, Hagee and his ilk want to USHER IN WORLD WAR 3 USING THE BIBLE AS JUSTIFICATION. They are murderous scum. If Jesus were here right now, he’d say, “Stop giving these bastards money and power! They’ve subverted my message to further their own insane goals – AT YOUR EXPENSE!”
Seriously, I wish atheists would stop using this argument, because it implies that Jesus and Christianity are awesome, it’s just modern-day Christians that aren’t living up to it. In reality I think it’s exactly the opposite: Christianity sucks, Jesus had a lot of bankrupt ideas mixed in with the nice ones, and modern-day Christians, to their credit, mostly ignore the Bible and follow modern-day secular morality.
Point taken.
However I didn’t even get to the idea that the Bible was created for the intent purpose of religious brainwashing, so you kind of pre-empted me there.
Still, if Christians would follow their own basic tenets of love and compassion, and ignore the more suspect aspects of the New Testament, then things on this earth would probably be much more peaceful.
Oh, and I’m not atheist. Not that you were accusing me of being one, but just in case you had that idea.. Also, I have no problem with any kind of religious belief. It’s just the way people try to organize it into ideology. Obviously a man-made construct. To me, religion and spirituality seem to inhabit two different spheres that occasionally overlap, but for the most part remain separate.
“Spiritual” = “A particular brand of emotional experience, or emotional exploitation”. Sounds a lot like religion to me, but my point is that “spiritual” is a bullshit word used by people who don’t want to admit that what they’re experiencing is either euphoria or a sense of mystery, both of which should be filed firmly under EMOTION. It’s a crap way of pretending that emotions have an intellectual base. I have a bit of a thing about this…
So kind of you to define it for the rest of us.
I will concur that there is a powerful emotional aspect to what I am referring to – however to write it off as purely emotional is naive at best. However, since we are talking about the “intangible” here, and since many people operate in a similar manner as say, the character Silas from Heroes – that is to say they can only understand something if they are able to look at it with their ocular perception – than such naivete can be forgiven as the result of a lack of experience.
And also, what I am referring to here was never anything that was mediated for me by any religious institution. It is something which is an inherent part of our DNA but is something which is usually either downplayed, ignored or flat out denied. I am not responsible for these things, it is what it is.
Oh please! You’re so full of crap! Don’t insult me because you swallowed the Kool Aid and I didn’t!
Bollocks! Believing in spirituality is the same thing as God of the gaps – You experienced something, you don’t know why, so you’ve filed it under “spiritual” for no reason whatever but that you wanted to. I’m not being naive – YOU are being gullible, lazy, lacking the ability to enquire and without the capacity for critical thinking.
PROVE IT OR STFU.
Study the inherent patterns of nature. That is the only proof people needed before Empire and Religion stepped in and offered their surrogate path of obedience through coercion, manipulation and violence. Even modern science, with all it’s arrogance and intellectual elitism acknowledges these patterns, patterns that are inherent in all organic and inorganic matter. If you are not riding the spiral then you are just a puppy, chasing your tail around and around and around.
Also, it was you who hurled the first stone with your highly subjective “definitions” and claims of bullshit. I have no problem with your ideas, opinions and intellectual rationales. I do, however, have problems with disingenuous statements that only aim to incite rather than educate.
And you are a nursing student, n’est pas? Isn’t everything you do done under the sigil of the Caduceus? Heal thyself indeed.
LOLOLOLOLOL! See my earlier comment about not knowing why things are how they are so filing it under “spiritual”. Once again: “You are being gullible, lazy, lacking the ability to enquire and without the capacity for critical thinking.” Add arrogant to that: YOU don’t know why things how they are, so you decide that nobody does. Yeah, spiritual… Idiot!
From somebody who’s spouting such unmitigated bullshit, that’s just funny!
So I automatically believe in Greek mythology? Riiiiight. Fuck thyself indeed…
Study the inherent patterns of nature.
All systems of sufficient complexity contain emergent phenomena. Some of these have, due to human proclivity for pattern recognition and specific aesthetic biases, are quite beautiful. Combine the aesthetic beauty with that wonderful blast of dopamine and endorphins that your brain gives you as a reward for recognizing an intricate pattern, and there you have your “spiritual experience”.
Some folk like to sentimentalize and mythologize these experiences. As metaphors, they have great utility for communication regarding experiences, especially of awe or ecstasy. But they are, if taken too literally or seriously, extremely sloppy metaphysics at best. The mistake is in believing that one’s feelings about an experience are necessarily connected to any fact of the matter.
You sound like Bill Maher. Not a very endearing quality, I’ll admit. Oh, and I wasn’t suggesting that you automatically believe in anything. But judging by your response I can only conclude that throwing ideas at you is like playing frisbee with a toddler. It’s going to go over your head every time.
I’m curious, mouse, what part of science, precisely, do you find arrogant?
And what do you mean by “intellectual elitism”?
Fritz Herber. Enrico Fermi. Phillip Allen Sharp. Antonio Egas Moniz. I don’t have time right now to look them all up. It doesn’t matter anyways. The whole world’s fucked and none of this matters. I’m just going to trust in vague nebulous energy forces and hope one day they get me out of this dimension so I don’t have to deal with any more fucking globalist crap. Educated or not, none of you are enlightened, except maybe in the atomic glow of a melting nuclear reactor. Let’s hope HAARP is really a super weapon and we all burn in the giant irradiated sewer that once was planet Earth. Lower ganglia would mean fuck-all if there was no more territory to play pissing wars over.
Fritz Haber won a Nobel prize for CHEMISTRY for synthesising nitrates for fertilisers, without which global agricultural yields would be about a fifth of what they are now. He also invented a method for synthesising Chlorine gas, but he won no prizes for that.
Enrico Fermi built a nuclear generator (NOT a bomb), and won a Nobel prize for PHYSICS.
Phillip Allen Sharp won a Nobel prize in MEDICINE for his work on genetics (which has NOT been weaponised).
António Egas Moniz won a Nobel prize in MEDICINE (jointly with Walter Rudolf Hess) for mapping the areas of the brain involved in the control of internal organs. Again, not used as a weapon.
None of them has a Nobel Peace Prize. And none of them awarded themselves a damned thing. You, Sir, are still full of shit.
@mouse
For what it’s worth, I can’t quite tell whether you’re being sarcastic or not.
That’s not a good sign.
This is the part where Mouse goes berserk.
This is the part where Mouse goes berserk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COvsCB2DfPc
To Elemenope: I could name many things. Weapons of warfare. Eugenics. The culture of “expertism” which seeks to placate the ignorant masses by telling them what is best. As for intellectual elitism: try to push any idea through the academic proper which does not conform to their goals or standards, or which is counter-intuitive to the greater agenda, and see how quickly they ostracize and expel you. These are the same kind of people who ridiculed and ostracized Nikolai Tesla and (it is rumored) pilfered his ideas for the cause of advanced warfare. Also the same kind of people who award themselves Nobel Peace Prizes for making discoveries which are ultimately used to further the cause of warfare. All this research on atoms and nuclear technology, for what? Bombs and volatile reactors? And that’s just a piece of it.
Now I’m not trying to suggest that science is bad, or that all these Nobel Peace Prize winners are a bunch of warmongers. I’m suggesting that science has been hijacked and not ultimately for the greater benefit of humankind. If this were not so, why would governments invest so much in fields such as scalar and biochemical weaponry?
As for unconditional love and compassion, you are right, it is not an inherent quality of nature – rather it is a uniquely human quality. I apologize if there was a lack of clarification in my previous comment. Also, I appreciate your own comments on the emergent phenomena of complex systems – I have read as much before in the past and it makes for a compelling argument.
To Custador: You are seriously underestimating or undervaluing emotion and what it is, what it does. Our so-called “reptilian brain” can only comprehend emotion on an intellectual scale. Adversely, religious adherents and the like who experience forms of emotional ecstasy during worship, or maybe concerts and football games, are more than likely lacking the intellectual comprehension necessary to realize that they are being basely manipulated. If they do have such comprehension than I suppose that means they enjoy being manipulated because it must be the only way they can “get off”.
There are higher levels of emotional energy which don’t require blind adulation or Freudian psycho-sexual manipulation to experience (quite the opposite in fact.) But if you don’t like this idea, fine. Then it’s all just chemical and in the end we are nothing more than primitive beasts, all fighting and fucking for food, progeny and territory.
Don’t blame scientists for how engineers are used by politicians to abuse science.
Eugenics was an extremely un-scientific movement. The fact that you don’t know why speaks volumes about your ignorance.
Again, name ONE. Bet you won’t.
No I’m not. I’m being realistic about what it is and not getting all woo about it.
Congrats, you fail at neuroscience. Go and find out what part of the brain is called the “reptilian brain”, then look up what that part of the brain does.
Lol – Use of the word “energy” in a nebulous and meaningless context. You’re really piling on the woo cliches.
Now you’re getting it. The fact that you WANT it to be about more doesn’t make it so. Throughout this discussion, you have ignored me every time I’ve asked you for any kind of evidence. You, sir, are wrong.
That’s some serious confusion between science, technology, engineering, ideology and politics mouse has going here.
Science: discovering electricity and nuclear fission
Engineering, technology, ideology and politics: deciding to use these to build electric chairs and nuclear weapons.
The so-called ‘reptilian brain’ has nothing to do with what most people call casually call ‘intellect’. That is a property of the mammalian neocortex.
Custador hit, more-or-less, the points I would have responded on. I get the sense that your complaint about science is not actually at all about science (the rigorous process of empirical discovery) and more with how some people have taken the fruits of those discoveries and used them to bad ends. For what it’s worth, in the general case human beings are healthier, wealthier, happier, and safer than they have ever been at any other point in human history, due almost exclusively to implementations of scientific and other empirical discoveries, so although it can be shown that this or that scientific discovery has been used to bad ends, on the whole science has been a great boon to humanity.
Even the bare fact that we are having this conversation in the first place is a profound testament of that fact.
As for unconditional love and compassion, you are right, it is not an inherent quality of nature – rather it is a uniquely human quality. I apologize if there was a lack of clarification in my previous comment.
Humans have the capacity for great love and compassion, sure. Actually, pretty much all pack-social animals (especially higher mammals) have the demonstrated capacity to sacrifice instinctually for one another, attend to wounds of injured pack members, care for young in common, and so forth. Empathy, I’d say, comes closer to being a unique human quality simply due to humans’ ability to vicariously experience implied emotional states of other creatures, but there’s nothing mysterious about it. It’s simply an expression of the ability to mentally manipulate abstractions combined with the activity of mirror neurons. Experiencing empathy makes it seem awesome and special in a qualitative way, but as I said before, one’s feelings about one’s experiences don’t in any way necessarily correspond with facts of the matter.
“To me, religion and spirituality seem to inhabit two different spheres that occasionally overlap, but for the most part remain separate.”
I disagree: “religion” and “spirituality” are just two slightly different forms of irrational bullshit, in the same category as homeopathy, crystals, power bracelets, astrology, etc. (Actually to be more precise, I would say that “religion” is one subset of “spirituality”.)
Then I guess the only thing I can say which is truly self-evident and needs no empirical evidence to back up is this: eliminate the irrational religious and spiritual elements from the overall picture and keep the rational, scientific element and you’ve still got massive problems.
And it’s still rational, scientific people who use religion as a vehicle for control. I’d go as far as to venture that it was this same school of thought which gave birth to religion. It’s all about CONTROL. It’s psy-ops from the ancient world, and it still works just as good as it did back then. Convince people that there’s some sort of divine justification for committing atrocities and they will use any weapon that science can pump out on whatever populace religion says they should kill.
There’s an important element missing from most of these conversations. It’s something which both sides seem to be sorely lacking. It has nothing to do with god, aliens, crystals, Atlantis, whatever it is that people obsess over but are unable to prove. It’s something far more fundamental to the human experience.
It’s unconditional love and compassion. Any religion that tries to put their stamp on that is lying. And of course, science just doesn’t give a shit. Everything else is just conjecture as far as internet message boards are concerned.
Name one. Name ONE. Just one.
Laughable as well as patently false. The most controlling figures in US religion are rabid Creatards who think science is evil. You’re actually babbling now.
Emotions. Not spiritualism, emotions. And what explains emotions? Science.
Quite rightly. Science seeks to explain things with facts. There’s nothing emotive about that.
Where do you find unconditional love and compassion evident in nature?
Paging Paul McCartney!
Wow. What’s “Fucking insane idot” backwards?
Siamang September 18, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Nilap Haras.
Obviously it’s fake. Playing “yes we can” in reverse would sound like “nac eew sey”. They’re not showing the reversed video because it would demonstrate the editing they had to do to produce these sound bites.
See, I hear “nac ewe san”. And then, once they’ve flashed up “Thank you Satan” on screen, audio paredolia takes over.
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4105
What Gerald said. Clearly fake.
And clearly stupid.
Poe’s law?
Wait. If you play a message backwards you should get the opposite of the true meaning. The opposite of “Thank you Satan” is “Praise be Jeebus” so I don’t know what their problem is.
Not hearing it. But I suppose if you’re a fundie with a satan-fixation, it might sound a bit like “Thank you, Satan.”
Sounds more like, “Make you safe”
That’s a code phrase!!!
I heard “nake u say,” but then I can never make out the EVPs on ghost hunting shows, either.
I wish someone would reverse a Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, or Rick Warren speech and see what they are really saying.
I heard that if you play Glenn Beck backwards….it makes more sense.
I give you 5 internets for this joke. I almost pooped.
Congratulations, you found the video equivalent of huffing glue. My brain hurts now from watching that.
Aiieeee! The stupid, it burns!
I find this stuff amusing. The way the human brain hears what it’s TOLD to hear is awesome. You’d think that the person who took the time to do this would realize they could do something more productive.
More like Yes We Can = As You Say
By your command.
Zeus was a pharaoh? What a surprise.
Audio paredolia is quite the drug, unfortunately.
Christians should quit speaking english and start babbling in tongues.
God: Can you do it? (God speaks in english for not all can interprete tongues)
Christians: Yes we can.
Ignorant noise, created by soft headed fundies tyring to scare people, again. They did this same crap in the late 70′s early 80′s with rock music. However, a group of psychologists found that if you do not get “the words” being “spoken” ahead of time, you don’t hear what is claimed to be said. Our brains look for patterns, but only in recognizable forms. Suggestion is a powerful tool, but it is not fact.
Praise Shneesh Nairf.
deedni frian sheensh sayrp
If one had the time, listening to the bible backwards might render some very strange “satanic’ messages. Anything heard backwards can be strange but not as strange as nitwits who spend time listening to messages being played backwards.
Hell, reading it forwards contains some very strange messages. Case in point: The Book of Revelation.
I don’t think you are doing the site a favor with this vid.
And you’re not doing this blog any favors with your insipid commentary.
I did hear and see santan on that tape and he was saying “yes we can”.
Right now, a sack of hammers is laughing about how stupid you are. Congratulations!
I thought this must be fake, but then I recorded it and played it backward and it is legit. Once I realized that, I laughed my ass off! Personally, I think the fact that it is real makes it even funnier. Someone actually thinks that he came up with “Yes, we can” because it sounds vaguely like “Thank you, Satan” backward??
Wait, I think I know what happened. Obama was meeting with a team of advisers and he said, “Even though I go to a Christian church, but am a secret Muslim, the most important thing for me to do is thank Satan in every speech. But, I don’t want those right wingers to know what I am saying. Ideas?” Then one guy says, “I’ve got it. Record yourself saying, ‘Thank you, Satan.’ Then we will slow it down and play it backward to see if it sounds like any phrase you can repeat at your rallies.” And “Yes, we can” was born!!
Charity September 19, 2010 at 10:49 pm
No, the argument (so to speak) says that subconscious messages embed themselves in the things we say, sometimes backwards. Obama doesn’t have to carefully construct his speech to say something forward and something else backward — it just HAPPENS because he is a Satanist!!!!!!!!
Of course, that’s just as retarded if not more so, but, yknow. They’re idiots.
“it just HAPPENS because he is a Satanist!!!!!!!!”
Oh, I see. Clearly, I don’t understand the depths of Obama’s evil!!!
Okay, I think I am going to go cry now at the thought that there are people (plural) who believe this.
#1, what’s wrong with Satan? He seems to have a terrible reputation, but what has Satan ever actually done to you over the long course of your life? I can list the crimes of God and Church off the top of my head, they happen every day. With that in mind I would accept President Obama confessing to a faith that challenges the boundaries of repression. Yes we can!
#2, Obama is not a Satanist, and believing in such things without evidence is borderline stupid.
Being a real follower of Satan would be pretty stupid, as he is the bad guy and, probably, he doesn’t deserve anyone trusting him. Who would follow an inmoral, vengeative, hatefull, unfair, sadistic, liar, misogynistic, mass-killer, genocidal God? Oh, wait…
Well it seems to me like God is a genocidal maniac while Satan is just a self-important and elusive dick.
At least Satan is evil by nature, or so we’re told, so there’s a reason why he chooses to do evil things. Except that in the Bible he never really does much.
God, on the other hand, is allegedly good by nature, so you’d expect him do good things. Except the Bible makes him seem more like a petty, jealous, vindictive thug fully capable of doing evil things on the slightest whim.
According to the Bible Satan has killed about ten people. God? Millions.
Who’s the bad guy, again?
You’ve just hit on the focal point of a popular argument in certain spheres today – that the “God” of the Bible, Jehovah or Yahweh, however you want to call it – is indeed the same Satan which “He” purportedly is at war with.
Kind of like how the American government engineered a “terrorist threat” in order to scare the populace into thinking that they’re the good guys.
Oh, wait… don’t these people claim to be Christians? Then they should know all about war and deception.
This is just one of the things that they didn’t want WikiLeaks to publish.
However you want to cut it – the phrase “Yes We Can” was used as a meme, a sort of subliminal mind control agent. Notice how Obama reinforces this phrase, over and over again. He uses it inbetween sentences in almost sermon-like fashion. (If this were a church he’d be saying “Amen” and “Hallelujah” in between said sentences.) Also notice the sheep-like repetition by the crowd, almost as if they are in a trance or a spell. Welcome to the magical world of brainwashing, repetition style!
Other popular memes on the TV today – “War”, “Fear”, “Terrorism”, “Islam”, “Jihad”, “Bomb”, “Morality”, etc.
Oh; for the love of fuck.
This reminded me most of an obsessed loonie’s attempt, some years back, to prove that “Alice in Wonderland” was a secret confession in anagram form that Lewis Carroll/Charles Dodgson was actually Jack the Ripper. It turns out that if you rearrange the letters in “Jabberwocky” (“‘Twas brillig, and the slivey toves…”) you can come up with “Bet I beat my glands til, / With hand-sword I slay the evil gender. / A slimey theme; borrow gloves, / And masturbate the hog more!”
They were shouting yes we can at the Cristine O’Donnell victory rally, does that make them satan worshipers as well? She did claim to being involved with satanists in high school which make me wonder why is it always the fundie christians that get invited to the satanic rituals and an evil atheist like me never hear of them.
sorry, all I hear is “knack we satin”. people are so stupid. what is really sad about this is the amount of people that buy into this kind of dishonest mudslinging.
But they can’t prove that their satan is innocent in this.
Any Muslim Islamic Jihad Sharia lovers here can kiss my ass.
Wellesley, Massachusetts Public School Students Learn to Pray to Allah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-I9Qp3d4Y&feature=player_embedded
Oh! I get it now. Your problem is that you are a dumb*ss.
That sack of hammers is still laughing its ass of at you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_69yvFZH9U
My 14 year old brings me this youtube video of all this hoopla of “yes we can” and “thank you satan”
etc…so i said let’s do it We used audacity software and did both phrases in reverse. Sorry it surely does sound like “thank you satan” to me. You can dl the software and be the judge for yourself. It is what it is.
It’s audio pareidolia, and its cause (the tendancy of humans to sense patterns even when none exist) is well proven. You could play the same thing backwards to a person who didn’t speak English, and they’d hear a phrase in their own language. So yes, it is what it is, but it isn’t what you’re saying it is.
It means you hear things that aren’t really there.
By the very same logic, Bob the Builder is the most satanic thing on earth.
(To americans – Bob the builder is a british cartoon. His response to people shouting “Can we fix it?” is “Yes We Can”)
Also by your logic Natasha is the most evil name on earth.
For the record, Bob the Builder is shown in the US and has a religious following (no pun intended).
like different songtracks translated to dutch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWco7oZ9XYQ&feature=related
nah yes we can is bullshit we want to here that and with a lil bit of imagination you here it ;)
yes so english is not my first langage …it is what it is
What?
I think diva said, “si ti tahw si ti… egagnal, tsrif ym ton si hsilgne os sey”
That means “I sold my soul to satan” in Aramaic!
Sorry Diva, but it is what it is.