Erotophobia

Posted at the Friendly Atheist, Darrel Ray has a review of the work America’s War on Sex by Dr. Marty Klein. According to Ray, Klien is arguing that many of the Culture War arguments over sexuality, birth control and sex education can be traced back to “erotophobia”:

Dr. Klein traces much of this back to erotophobia (fear of or negative attitudes about sex). If I am afraid of my sexuality then I am also afraid of yours. Because I am uncomfortable with your sexuality, I have the right to legislate your sexuality to reduce my discomfort. It’s a great way to justify legislation: “The law must conform to my religious beliefs.” This justification is used in Iran and Saudi Arabia with great success and is what the Catholic Church and Focus on the Family seek to enforce in the United States.

I think the sociologist Kristin Lurker gets a little more in depth in her work When Sex Goes to School, an examination of the arguments about sex education in public schools. Here’s a section where she discusses her interview with a woman opposed to public sex education, whom she calls “Mrs. Boland”:

Her voice was flat, depressed, drained of all emotion. She was opposed to sex education, she said, because her husband was a rapist; he had in fact raped their daughter, and she thought that sex education was at the root of it all. Not directly, of course, because he was well into his adult years before the kind of sex education Mrs. Boland objected to was being offered in the schools. Rather, she thought that sex education in its modern incarnation had had a baleful indirect effect on her husband. The way sex is taught nowadays, she said, takes the “thou shalt nots” out of it and validates personal preferences over right and wrong in sexual decision-making. It embodies and legitimates a morality based on selfish pleasure, and in her husband’s case, the pleasure involved was the most selfish of all, that built on the pain of another person.

Though the connection may be obscure to others, for Mrs. Boland, the link between rape and sex education was all too real. The only way to keep people like her husband from harming others was to reestablish the rules that were overthrown in the 1960s, and sex education was the logical place to start. (When Mrs. Boland said “the sixties”—which she did often—her face contorted into a grimace of disgust.) She said that she opposed sex education unless it was taught in the context of morality, and for her the word “morality” was shorthand for the norms that once ruled American sexual behavior—that the only moral sex is between a man and a woman and within holy wedlock. Perhaps it was too late to save her daughter from men like her husband, she said, but most of her waking hours were spent trying to save the next generation.

As we spoke, I felt my world tip subtly off-balance. In Mrs. Boland’s life, sex was a powerful and often destructive force of nature that could sweep otherwise reasonable men and women over their heads into something they could not control, try as they might. My own thinking over the years had been based on the assumption that sexuality was mostly benign, a source of pleasure rather than of danger and harm. It’s not that I hadn’t heard horror stories about sexual abuse and exploitation, but somehow I had always assumed that these examples were the exceptions, the disturbed acts of disturbed people, rather than at the heart of what sex was. What I was hearing from Mrs. Boland, backed up with terrible details, was the belief that sexuality, especially for men, was by its very nature destructive and needed to be contained. Mrs. Boland believed, and believed deeply, that the only way this powerful disruptive force could be controlled was to channel it into marriage and to marshal every resource—legal, moral, and emotional—to keep it there.

These two competing visions of sex—sex as pleasure versus sex as danger, sex as something that reasonable humans can handle versus sex as something that needs all the help it can get to keep from running amok—have long histories in American thinking.

A couple of points. Klein’s “erotophobia” is more than just a feeling that sex is icky. It’s a feeling that sex is a disruptive and dangerous thing that can tear apart relationships and institutions and thus upset the society. To the Mrs. Bolands of the world, constant vigilance is required to keep this insidious force in check.

This is not a new or uniquely Christian idea. In The Body and Society, Peter Brown shows how even ancient Greeks and Romans believed that an excess of sex was like an excess of wine or an excess of anger in terms of disrupting society. Since these excesses made a person unfit for the responsibilities of citizenship, there was a political dimension before Christianity appeared on the scene.

That said, these ideas have found a home in Christianity, and in particular the Calvinist influenced Christianity that is so prominent in America. Sexual desire makes a good example of how humans are totally depraved, and how our corrupt impulses can overcome us and lead us into sin. As Lurker points out, we’ve been having the debate for a long time.

  • UrsaMinor

    You can obsess about anything to the detriment of yourself and others. Personally, I do not see sex and sexuality as intrinsically dangerous, although certainly you need ethical codes of conduct for it. “No rape” comes to mind for starters, but this really falls into the broader category of “Do not harm others”.

    Maybe people are so frightened of sex because sexual urges are so basic and so powerful. But then, so is the urge to eat.

    • FO

      In a patriarchal society, sex has important consequences and must be controlled.
      Yet, sex is powerful and can’t be controlled easily.
      Thus, it’s scary.

      Also, I see a vicious circle.
      If you feel guilty about sex, you will see it as more dangerous and therefore you will try to control it more tightly.
      But the more you try to control and forbid it, the more becomes powerful and the harder you will fail your own standards, feeling even more guilty.
      An so on…

      • http://www.virtue-quest.com/ Robert King

        So… sex doesn’t have important consequences outside a patriarchal society? I would think, at least on a biological level, sex has plenty of important consequences regardless of the kind of society you live in.

        There are lots of ways to react to the various desires and impulses we have as human beings. As you point out, trying to control things that are difficult or impossible to control, or setting standards impossible to attain, are broad roads to madness. But there are also healthy ways to manage one’s desires – whether for sex or for food or for sleep or for anything else.

        One of the best analogies I’ve heard is that desire is like fire: when properly prepared, contained, and focused, it becomes the source of light and comfort and even of power and civilization; but when left entirely on its own, it either dies or destroys.

        • Johan

          In a van, there is a seat. Waddaya mean, only vans have seats?!?!
          See your mistake?

    • Terradea

      @UrsaMinor, do not confuse “sex” with “rape.” Rape is an act of violence, not an act of sex. Many people make the mistake of equating rape with sexual needs, in fact, rape is a tool of violence and oppression and control and used often as a weapon (e.g., war). Sex education or lack thereof would do nothing to curb a rapist or create a rapist.

      • Johan

        That may be the politically correct way of speaking, but it isn’t the complete truth. Rape fantasies are very common for women, this is well known. If rape is not sex in any way then rape fantasies wouldn’t be common. I’m not advocating rape of course, just pointing out that your point of view is simplistic and ignores established fact.

        Furthermore, Ursa wasn’t confusing sex with rape. Don’t confuse mentioning both sex and rape in one comment as confusing the two. And your last sentence… wow. Blatantly false. Rapists have been successfully re-educated and reformed.

        • Paul

          Johan, women having rape fantasies does not mean that it is just a sex act and not an act of power. I choose Power or Domination over violence in describing rape. Yes, violence is a major facet of how that power or domination are asserted but it is the power or domination that are important both to women and to rapists. Women have long felt an attraction to “bad boys” and powerful men. This was important in earlier societies where the man was literally the protector of his family and that ingrained predisposition remains with us.

          The high school nerd may grow up to be the next Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, but even failing that he will usually out earn the guys who studied underwater basketweaving so they could stay eligible for the team.

          The skinny nerd does not attract high school women in the way that the football player does even though in today’s world the nerd will probably be much better able to provide for his family than most of the football players. Only a few of these will make it onto college teams and a very small percentage of those who do make it to college will end up being professional athletes, fewer still earn the amazing salaries that the very top tier players earn.

          So the rape fantasies are not so much about violence or sex, though I suspect that the sexual aspect of these fantasies is much more a factor in the women’s fantasies than in the rapists. They represent power and power was and still is a defining aspect of attraction, even though logically they represent less ability to take care of the family than the engineer or scientist that grew out of the high school nerd.

          My son and I had a discussion about superheroes and their super powers. This is right after Batman Begins came out. Jack asked me what superpower Batman had that made him a superhero. I pointed out all the things that he was able to create. Still my son said but he doesn’t have a superpower. I pointed out that unlike the other superheroes that Batman had a real superpower, money. He was able to build the things he did because of his wealth and his willingness to use it for the greater good.

          • Johan

            I never said it was JUST a sex act. The point is that Terradea claimed it was not sex at all, which is absolutely false as I mentioned above.

            Seriously, have people lost the ability to properly comprehend the written word? I re-read my comment and just can’t understand how you got it wrong.

            This van has a seat! Waddaya mean only vans have seats? Pt II.

      • David

        I’ve always been troubled by this implied dichotomy. Why are sex and violence mutually exclusive? Why is this an either-or question? Why can’t it be both?

        • UrsaMinor

          It’s a complex issue, as most things involving human interactions are, and as such is not reducible to a black-and-white binary. While I would agree with Terradea that rape is an act of violence, this does not erase the fact that it is also a sexual act.

      • Julie42

        Rape is an act of sex and violence. I’m sure different rapists have different motives. Some want to humiliate, some want to feel powerful, but I’m sure there are others who want sex and just won’t take no for an answer. I think many cases of date rape are definitely driven by a desire for sex that is coupled with a lack of respect for the other person and whether or not they say “no.”
        And I’m pretty sure education could potentially stop rapists. I don’t think people are born to rape. Especially in cases of frat house type rapists, if they hadn’t been taught that sex makes you more manly and that women are there for sex, I doubt there would be as many cases of rape.

    • Raymond

      And, of course, women are the grand temptresses of all time. Muslims control desires for women by trussing them up in beekeeper garb. Xians try to legislate sexual control by women through denying contraceptions as Santorums says it leads to other things(it really does, like a healthy sex life for men and women alike, but he’s too stupid to see that, cuz’ he sees an actual Satan in the world)

  • FO

    If “Mrs Boland” had a broader experience regarding sex, maybe her ideas would be different.
    Right now everything she knows about sex comes from a rapist…

  • Mahousniper

    Mrs. Boland sounds to me like a traumatized woman in need of help. It sounds like the rape still heavily haunts her and she is looking for any reason, any justification as to why this could have happened. She saw the sex ed changes and immediately latched on them.

    • trj

      My thoughts as well. She’s searching for some explanation why this happened. Surely there must be some deciding factor, someting specific that triggered it. It’s too painful and too incomprehensible to think otherwise. So she has become fixated on sex ed as an explanation.

  • L.Long

    When in college in Anthro101 I did some reading on the christening of Hawaii. And I can see this ‘lots of sex is bad for society’ thing. When you think of kings, cities, power and war and getting more power and having citizens to help out, excess sex is no help as it tends to mellow you out. Hawaiians where very lax in sex when we 1st found them and they were a relatively peaceful and friendly bunch. But once they got ‘civilized’ (read that as christianized) they are now as screwed up as the rest of us.

  • Brian K

    Given the horrific use of sexual violence THROUGHOUT HISTORY (even mandated by Yahweh Himself as punishment for petty sins), given the realities of sexual aggression in families for thousands of years….how in the world can this poor, benighted woman blame SEX EDUCATION for her travails? I just cannot see it….her system of authoritarian morals has never worked all that well. In fact, her very same moral system has often justified horrific sexual violence.

    • UrsaMinor

      If it’s violent, it’s not sexual, Q.E.D. See Terradea’s pronouncement above.

      • Elemenope

        That distinction has always struck me as untrue. Force and aggression stands in an uneasy complicated relationship with sexual action under the best of circumstances; one might even say that many, if not most, cultural restrictions and protocols around sex are about delineating the socially approved relationship between force and sexuality.

        To say that rape is not sex, it’s violence, is to ignore the obvious fact that the underlying act is literally sexual. This is not an accidental feature of rape, but a fundamental one. It is the use of sex as a physical weapon. And so while Terradea is right that rape is not generally about the satisfaction of sexual needs, it is nonetheless inextricably sexual.

        • UrsaMinor

          Agreed.

        • Julie42

          If rape was not sexual, why not just beat the other person up?

          • JK

            Because that would be less degrading. Being beaten up is bad enough, but rape is far more personal and humiliating.

        • Kodie

          I think when a man doesn’t take no for an answer, he might think that it is sexual. I think the notion that rape is about power and violence and not sexual is from the victim’s point of view. It’s not sexual for her. She might have ended up in a situation where it felt like she didn’t have a choice and made to feel bad or guilty about being raped, and circumstantially, she might have just said yes and what’s the big deal, because she’s a slut or something. “It’s just having sex with someone you didn’t want to have sex with,” so to speak. It puts the focus back on the rapist for performing a violent act on someone without her permission, the lack of permission that makes it violent and violating and a crime and not her fault and using his power or domination over her in the moment, failing to consider her willingness to participate.

          So you see, you got candles lit all over, music on, everyone’s dressed for a sexy time and she says she wants to leave and he pushes her down and does whatever he wants. There was a case on Law and Order: SVU where a college girl in her own apartment gets a grocery delivery and the guy rapes her. It didn’t look violent, she didn’t fight him physically or scream because she thought he would kill her. I assume this is an example of how non-violent a rape can play out, where she technically says “ok, you can rape me if that’s the best-case scenario, you’re already in my apartment and you’re physically larger than I am.” Of course, he got to go free, because she’s made out to be a liar with a secret affair with one of her professors, and she had sex with a black guy and she didn’t want her father to find out about any of this, so of course she had to “invent” a story where the black guy raped her, and the not screaming or fighting to save her life that makes it look like a non-violent consensual act that she merely regretted.

          I think the grocery deliverer in this scenario saw something he wanted. He was a guy with a job and she was attractive and vulnerable. That’s sexual for him. It’s practically the template for fantasy essays. She didn’t fight back, as I said, and it was not sexual but violent for her. Because people would ordinarily look at such a scene and say “sex is nice” and he didn’t hit her and then he left, how is that violent? The “it’s about power, not sex” situation is to reinforce that it is violent to do that to another person as hitting them would be. Most people don’t like to be hit, so hitting is almost entirely non-consensual. If you hit a guy who is a boxer and say “you get punched for a living, why press charges on me?” Could you see how that it’s violent to hit a guy outside the ring, regardless if he’s a boxer or an accountant or a landscaper, etc.? Just because most people enjoy the activity of sex doesn’t mean they want it done to them when you don’t have permission. That is violence.

          • Elemenope

            I think when a man doesn’t take no for an answer, he might think that it is sexual. I think the notion that rape is about power and violence and not sexual is from the victim’s point of view. It’s not sexual for her.

            That is a damn good point.

          • UrsaMinor

            This is why I think the one-size-fits-all “rape is an act of violence” (or, conversely, “rape is an act of sex”) doesn’t make sense. It can certainly be different things to different people- the victim’s perspective is certainly going to be different from the assailant’s. And I also can’t imagine that every rapist has exactly the same motivation for committing rape.

            • Kodie

              I think it’s mostly for the victim to assess the situation properly. Because of the nature of this crime, I can imagine most victims feel guilt or are confused if they were actually raped, since they might have gone home with someone, or were drunk, or thinks they may have sent signals, or are married to him. The line is not clear for them, while also feeling violated. Define rape as not sex, it is violence, for them. And define it as violence for would-be rapists. If they can justify doing such a thing, they don’t seem to understand it as violence. I tend to think the mantra is a little less explicit, but I think it’s coming from a place where people are confused about what happened to them or that they did to someone else. It’s not to say what motivated a rapist or that it didn’t have anything to do with the act ordinarily labeled as sex.

              For a diagram: Ann and Bob are dating and sometimes sleep over at one another’s apartments. They have had sex before. One night, they tuck into bed together and Bob sees Ann and wants to have sex. Ann does not want to have sex. Bob has sex with Ann anyway.

              Does Ann think that it was just sex like they had before? She didn’t want to, but Bob is her boyfriend. She was there and nobody will believe her, or say she is making a big deal out of nothing. Even though this makes her uncomfortable around Bob, she is unsure if what happened was rape.
              Bob thinks Ann should not have slept over if she didn’t want to have sex. That she slept over meant she was available to him, and Ann is his girlfriend. She didn’t seem too thrilled but she didn’t resist too much.

              Bob committed a violent act against Ann. Tell Bob and tell Ann.

            • UrsaMinor

              I think your example here illustrates the special nature of rape. If you substitute almost any other activity for “sex” in the sentence “Ann didn’t want to have sex, but Bob did, so they had sex anyway despite Ann’s protests”, we would treat the situation completely differently. If the activity in question were going out to the movies, or having broccoli for dinner, no one would think of calling it an act of violence against Ann if she went along with it over her stated objections.

              To me, this indicates that sex is an inextricable part of the “is it rape?” equation. The fact that it is a sexual act under discussion is what transforms the situation from Ann grumpily acquiescing to Bob’s wishes, to Ann being a victim of violence.

              Or am I missing something here?

            • Kodie

              Well, I think it’s part of the culture. Who hasn’t been coerced to do anything they didn’t want to do? And how do you feel about the person who treated you as weaker than they are? Is it just that you don’t like to compromise or obligation, or you hate yourself for not being strong-willed enough to put the shoe on the other foot sometimes, or a consistent pattern in your life? If a contractor charges you extra after starting the job and you don’t know that you need to amend the contract (I’m winging this example), and later on, someone tells you that guy over-charged you for basically nothing… I mean, doesn’t everyone think the mechanic they take their car is lying? But what can you do?

              I have sort of a friend and pseudo-economist* that says this is how it works. You both agree to terms. If you don’t know any better and pay the contractor more just because he told you to, you still agreed to pay him. Perhaps you were coerced by a gaping hole in the side of your house that isn’t closing itself, but why people try to get consumers to be aware of their rights. You don’t have to let it go, just because you paid the contractor already, although I imagine many people do.

              Unless Bob physically kidnapped Ann to see a movie she didn’t want, she similarly agreed to the terms. What recourse does she have after the fact? She didn’t want Bob to go alone, and she wanted to spend time with Bob, and maybe he said next Saturday we see one Ann picks. It’s also possible Ann didn’t voice her objection, but she still just does whatever Bob says and goes wherever he wants to go. It’s not exactly a crime, if we’re still talking about going to the movies, but it is concerning.

              And I think it has everything to do with sex and how our culture thinks of it. Is it simple or complex? Not too long ago, I watched on The View, Elisabeth Hasselbeck said (I paraphrase): If your husband wants sex and you don’t, just imagine him taking that ‘no’ and seeking sex that he wants elsewhere. That’ll get you in the mood pretty quick.

              What???????? This is just the culture. I’m sure so many women agree with her. I’m sure women like Ann think they should just brush it off and not even break up with Bob who treats her like this.

              It’s still very romanticized in our culture that women don’t own their own bodies, it’s a woman’s job to keep a man faithful any which way she can, and to be worn down before they can go through with having sex. I think a campaign which advertises and raises awareness for rape that doesn’t look like “scary man jumps out of the bushes” and pass around the same kind of consumer advocacy that would inform you how not to get screwed over by your contractor. Women have rights, for example, even if they are married to the guy and have sex with him all the time anyway. The fact is that some concepts are still romanticized so not everyone will agree or understand that whatever they were ok with, not everyone is.

              If you take Ann and Bob again, and you have Carl and Dana: Similar circumstances, only Dana thinks it’s necessary and romantic to preserve her relationship and keep Carl from straying. When Bob forced himself on Ann, they are two different people than Carl and Dana. Should Dana tell Ann to relax and go with it, that’s “normal”? Should everyone get angry with Ann for going to the police just because Dana wouldn’t? Are all situations exactly the same? Are all people the same? That’s the problem with this is that many rape behaviors are considered “normal” even by the would-be victims. Educate people about their rights and un-normalize it. Or suppress action toward changing these attitudes? Should everyone have low self-esteem because it’s not rape to Dana or Carl or Bob? Why would anyone believe Ann was raped if Dana thinks it’s ok?

            • Kodie

              —We’re assuming Ann’s reaction was that she feels violated in a situation where Dana would not. She’s confused and goes to Dana for advice, but finds it less than satisfactory. All signs seem to point out that Ann was not raped, she is just feeling angry with Bob, she withheld herself, she gave out signals of availability, she’s already sleeping with him anyway, and yet, she feels that someone did something to her that was not ok with her. What should she do with those feelings, just suck it up? Or, you know, be informed of her rights?

            • Raymond

              Rape for the woman victim happens several times in one violent act. First she gets raped by the rapist, them she gets raped by the hospital exam and rape kit, then the cops rape her through her testimony making her recall it again and again, then the courts rake her over the coals and rape her again by forcing her to again relive it. How else can rape be viewed except through the victim’s point of view, as a violation of her personal space and the unwanted penetrating of her body, who gives a shit about the perpetrator seeing it as sex or violence that gives them pleasure through domination? Should we also view murder through the eyes of the killer, or the victim? Goddamn the thoughtless perpetrator, regardless, for their violating of another person, whether it be their body, their possessions, the taking of their life, or their violating their personal space. All of these are acts of violence since the victim gave no permission, and as for rape, in that she ‘just lies there,’ while objecting, but being too scared that she may be killed afterwards, that is an act of self preservation and of survival, not of consent to sex.

  • Raymond

    Sex is all about consent and for whatever the reason, it is a woman’s perogative to agree or not, her reasons are irrelevant unless she lies about her consent saying she didn’t consent when she did, but no matter NO means NO even in a marriage, the reasons for her denying her partner, it’s not relevant. And indeed it is the woman that must consent 99 times out of 100, since men are the more sexually aggressive usually. Most women need conditions to be a certain way, she needs to be persuaded, or an emotional connection made and be given a good reason for her to consent. Porno actors are also subject to the same conditions, maybe in their case her reasons are about making money, but their still her reasons, and the basis of her consent to sex.