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The fight is not over, though. Those guys are going to regroup and come back. We need to make sure the Democratic party slides to the left, in the direction or Sanders and start working to convinced the general population that Medicare and Social Security are out of reach from the right wing nuts. We’re not there yet. As far as I’m concerned, I’ll say the nightmare is over when we reach a point, like any other industrialized nation, where Abortion is not an issue anymore and where Health Care is considered a right, not a privilege. We’re barely starting.
I don’t know if abortion will ever not be an issue. Republicans get a large number of votes from people who just vote for the pro-life candidate. If republicans started becoming pro-choice (and started breaking away from religious/social issues in general), those voters would actually start to vote on other issues and they would not be guaranteed to vote Republican.
It’s weird that they don’t see that the Republicans are using them…
How much truth is there in the idea that the overturning of legal abortion is only a retiring Supreme Court judge away? I wonder if that gives the movement in the US more strength, but living in a country with a different legal framework I don’t know.
I predict that at least one liberal-leaning Supreme Court justice will retire in the near future, now that it is clear that Obama will have a chance to appoint the replacement. I’m pretty such that Ruth Bader Ginsberg was hanging on until the results of this election were in. There are a couple of other potential retirees on both sides of the political spectrum, but it’s a pretty good bet that the conservatives will hold off retiring until at least 2016 for the same reason. If we get a Republican president, they can be reasonably certain that their replacement will be conservative as well. If old age or disease force an earlier retirement, we could see the ideological balance of the court shift.
Such=sure. Some days I hate the brain-finger disconnect.
Getting any pro-choice judges approved will be hell. The GOP have been making sure that “government doesn’t work” by refusing to fill even the most non-controversial positions.
Get rid of the filibuster. Problem solved. You can confirm the judges one after another, maybe one every ten minutes (given the backwards voting procedures in the Senate).
The Dems are simply using women and homosexuals for their gain while allowing the slaughter of over 21,000 innocent unborn children each week mostly for reasons of convenience.
Pretty sure it’s the rape baby caucus who want to use women, and homosexuals have nothing to do with abortion.
The fair and equal treatment of mllions of women and of gays is far more critical and just than that of mindless and senseless clumps of tissue. And by the way, a large share of the number you pulled out of your ass of terminations were performed for Republican women.
Sorry, in this board most people do not recognize personhood to clumps of cells without any trace of a nervous system.
Further, how many children die because they have no access to health care?
How many children die for the bombs and bullets paid by your taxes?
80000 unborn children die every week for spontaneous abortion.
As terrible as it is, it is the Will of your God and none else.
An article in the JAMA a few years ago estimated that somewhere between 40-50% of pregnancies are spontaneously aborted, usually in the first trimester, and the woman is often not even aware of it.
Does this mean that your Dog (sorry, I’m dyslexic) is the chief abortionist?
As Geo. Carlin said: “If you’re pre-born you’re fine. If you’re preschool your fucked.”
Why do you think God causes a baby to mis-carry???And when ever anything goes wrong its all Gods will eh!!!
Well, yes, of course it’s god’s will whenever anything goes wrong, presumably an omnipotent being could have interfered if he willed those spontaneous abortions not to take place, or could have set up a biological system that did not result in roughly half of all pregnancies self-terminating. If god exists as you imagine, it is entirely his fault. As for why I think god does this, aside from just plain not existing, it is in keeping with his absolutely capricious and cruel character. This is the guy who wiped out all life on earth according to his own autobiography. Pretend all you like that god has nothing to do with bad things, but then you have to accept that he’s just as likely to have nothing at all to do with good things, and then what’s the point of him in the first place?
An omnipotent being who rejects any involvement or responsibility towards protecting the innocent is morally reprehensible. He is culpably negligent.
So, how many unwed mothers have you provided housing for? Have you provided cheap child care for the kids she already have, so she can continue working, and go back to work after the baby is born? How about low-cost job training? How many kids have you adopted, preferably ones with severe disabilities? If you have not adopted any children because it wouldn’t be convenient, you have no right to tell others they must become parents.
I absolutely love this! The backwaters where these retrogressive Republican troglodytes can thrive are getting smaller and smaller! I have to admit I’m wallowing in schadenfreude right now, really enjoying the cries of distress and confusion from Republicans, religious conservatives, and other assorted idiots on the “right”. Seems they were wrong and they can’t figure it out.
I think your definition of “backwater” is a bit broad. Obama won this election by about 2% of the popular vote, as compared to over 7% in the 2008 election. At the very least, the conservatives are holding their own quite firmly.
Also, we’re in general a bit suspicious of people who are overtly religious.
It’s also interesting to see that none of the crazies even consider the fact that other countries also have immigration laws and may not be that eager to take them in even though they’re not Mexicans.
Oz has very strict, bordering on offensive and ridiculous, health guidelines on immigration. Our super-conservatives are going to need to get some thorough health care to get tuned up for the transfer first.
The meme does make me wonder though, is there a foreign country that would be to their liking? Does this fairy land exist outside of parts of the US?
Somalia – the libertarian paradise?
As an Oz immigrant, I second that… T_T
Most of the misogynistic superrich fossil-fuel-burning types would be quite happy in Saudi Arabia, if only its theocracy had a different brand name.
I believe there are several South American countries where you can set up your own religious enclave and mistreat others with only minimal bribes to the local constabulary.
Have heard that they may move to HOBBBITUSTAN (New Zealand) also. We have enough wealthy
yanks already thank you very much! In days of old used to have Americans for barbecues (as the main course) Any one no a good recipe to roast a Republican in an UMU (Maori oven)???
Sorry Republicans we (Australians )in addition to the above also have
Minimum Wage ,Compulsory 9% superanuation , 4 weeks paid annual leave ,10 days sick leave , parental leave , subsidised childcare , a carbon tax , openly gay Senators , diverse multicultural communities , decriminalisation for marijuana, free needle exchanges, we are working on a disability insurance scheme .We also want our government to spend more on education so we have the best education system in the world .
A 16 year old can obtain contraceptive or have an abotion without parental consent . We are trying to protect the barrier reef , we banned a fishing trawler that may have caused enviromental problems . hardly any of us go to church or fear God . The only issue that we are conservative on is that we lock up people who overstay their visas . Be warned if you come by boat you might just end up on Nauru and have to wait 5 years !
Hey, it’s still easier to obtain a permanent visa coming by boat than with a degree in physics, or so I’m told…
FO, you should have come with a nursing qualification. Or a medical degree – we love stealing other country’s doctors. Physics – far too high-brow and impractical! *sigh*
It’s pretty good overall, but being self-employed leaves me without many of those perks. A choice, I know, but sick days & vacation are at my own peril, with the glorious caveat that at least I’m only losing work and not going bankrupt with healthcare costs.
As a screaming liberal atheist American ex-pat living in Australia (now approaching 7 years), I can honestly say:
Australia is certainly not perfect by any means, but life without regular & repeated doses of fundie insanity is something that I cherish deeply. Coming from being raised in the deep South, it means a lot to me that so far I have only met one person who believes in creationism, and he’s such a nice guy that it doesn’t bug me quite as much as the yahoos that used to surround me. Cheers from Oz, way to hit one out of the park USA!!!
I was struck to find more Creationists here in Oz than in Italy! (We don’t have many up there, to be fair…)
Weird. I’ve only met the one so far, but maybe there are thorny patches of them that I haven’t run into yet. I’m sure the shrubs grow thick in the Hillsong areas of Sydney, but I’m well shot of them.
They’re definitely around, but in much smaller numbers than in the US. Unfortunately I’m related to some of them…
Oz has exported some of its Creationist crazies to the USA. You can have Ken Ham back any time.
No thanks, we’re happy to leave him over there :)
At some sites I saw lots of people say that if Romney wins they’re moving to Canada. When I said we had a evangelical Dominionist Prime minister with three more years in his mandate they had second thoughts. Mind you, they’d still be welcomed as long as they drank beer and played hockey.
Now I want to move to Australia!
Don’t forget we have kangaroos and koalas too. No other country can compete with those levels of cute.
What, no pandas?
There’s some pandas in Adelaide. There’s a tourism campaign that basically says “Come to Adelaide – we have pandas!”
Does the cute balance out all the flora and fauna who want to kill you? Whenever there’s a most deadliest animals something special on TV, almost all of them are in Australia.
I see a new wave of gun hoarding has already begun.
“Ohmagad, Obama’s gonna take away my guns! I need more guns to protect my guns!”
I already left, sorry, lol.
Actually there are guns in Australia, theyer just hard to get legally, and the legal gun owners tend not to be as obsessed with owning them for self-defense.
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