By now, I expect you’ve heard a little about Pastor Sean Harris of Berean Baptist Church in Fayetteville, NC. He’s the pastor who sermonized that parents should enforce gender roles on their children, and suggested that boys should get “a good punch” if they were being to effeminate.

Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok?

Parts of this sermon went viral, making Harris one of the most disliked people on the net in short order.

This Sunday, our friend Justin Griffith, who is located at Fort Bragg in Fayetteville, attended a protest held by the Military Atheists & Secular Humanists at Fort Bragg and other groups outside Berean. Griffith actually got a little closer, getting inside for a brief interview with the pastor. Snippets of the interview were used by news sources, but here’s the whole thing:

Griffith picked up on part of Harris’s response:

Justin Griffith: “But you wouldn’t literally use a rod would you?”

Sean Harris: “No, of course not. We may use some instrument of discipline in a careful and appropriate way. Depending on the age of the child, depending on the weight of the child.”

Maybe Harris will soon publish a book including his conversion charts of force-per-pound punishments.