Antigay bill author David Bahati chair of parliamentary prayer fellowship

In another sign that David Bahati’s stock continues to rise in Uganda, Bahati presided over the recent opening parliamentary prayer fellowship dinner as chairman. From the New Vision:

The chairman of the parliamentary fellowship, David Bahati, said the caucus of God is bigger than all other caucuses and does not discriminate against political affiliations.

The parliamentary fellowship was founded in 1986 by the late Hon. Balaki Kirya, and has since 1991 been organising a prayer breakfast on every October 8.

Bahati said the fellowship, initiated some bills like the Anti- Homosexuality and Anti-Pornography believes in a God led country and God led policies.

Bahati here locates the Anti-Homosexuality Bill in the agenda of the Uganda Fellowship. Bahati’s position is contrary to the American group and that Bahati’s continued advocacy is a source of frustration for the Fellowship.

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  • Richard Willmer

    Q: What is a key difference between David Bahati and God?

    A: God does not think he is David Bahati.

    (Matthew 7 : 21 -23)

  • Maazi NCO

    Q: What is a key difference between David Bahati and God?

    A: God does not think he is David Bahati.

    (Matthew 7 : 21 -23)

    That’s a funny one Richard. Though, I doubt Bahati would care a damn about your joke.

  • Richard Willmer

    Glad you like it, ‘Maazi’ dear.

    Frankly I don’t much care what Bahati might think about it. But perhaps he should reflect carefully on Our Lord’s words in S. Matthew’s Gospel before he starts again to advocate slaughter and/or repression in God’s Name.

  • Richard Willmer

    (Strange though it might seem, I would consider myself to be being remiss if I were not to challenge the ‘God-complex’ apparently demonstrated by those who claim to ‘do God’s work’ as they propose violent and hateful measures against innocent people. I would even suggest that I owe it to them to do so, as I am convinced that such measures are not in accordance with ‘Christian truth’.)

  • Richard Willmer

    The Monitor mentions Bahati today, but perhaps in a rather less flattering light!

    http://www.monitor.co.ug/OpEd/OpEdColumnists/CharlesOnyangoObbo/-/878504/1186726/-/h94mqf/-/

  • Maazi NCO

    The Monitor mentions Bahati today, but perhaps in a rather less flattering light!

    http://www.monitor.co.ug/OpEd/OpEdColumnists/CharlesOnyangoObbo/-/878504/1186726/-/h94mqf/-/

    The monitor as a newspaper had nothing to say. Only well-known pro-gay columnist Charles Onyango-Obbo had something say. He is entitled to his opinion and Bahati is entitled to his. Of course, that is until— the legal code is updated to respond to fresh challenges from forces external to Uganda.

  • Richard Willmer

    You’re obviously on the Govt. payroll, ‘Maazi’, given what you’ve said about the Monitor!

  • Richard Willmer

    Credit where credit is due, ‘Maazi’: at least you don’t use ‘God’ to try to justify your desire to persecute your gay compatriots.

    (When is comes to ‘external challenges’, it should of course be understood that UG could face considerable ‘external challenges’ if laws breaching her international treaty obligations are enacted …)

  • Maazi NCO

    You’re obviously on the Govt. payroll, ‘Maazi’, given what you’ve said about the Monitor

    Wow !! Only God knows how you were able to reach such a conclusion.

    Credit where credit is due, ‘Maazi’: at least you don’t use ‘God’ to try to justify your desire to persecute your gay compatriots.

    I have no interest in persecuting anybody.However, I have strong interest in the prosecution of people who incite others to commit abominable sex crimes such as gayism, incest, bestiality, etc.

    (When is comes to ‘external challenges’, it should of course be understood that UG could face considerable ‘external challenges’ if laws breaching her international treaty obligations are enacted …)

    We have been through this already. Uganda is not Malawi. Eventually, when we come round to updating the legal code, there would be an eruption of self-righteous outrage in Western nations. A few inconsequential European countries (mainly those tucked away in the Scandinavian region) will pull their meagre donor aid, but the bigger more serious western nations that really matter such as USA and your beloved UK will not do much beyond verbal condemnation. Uganda is just too strategic in terms of its location in the mineral-rich Great Lakes Region of Africa. Of course, I cannot fail to mention Uganda’s central role in controlling the situation in Somalia. Uganda like several other nations around the world does not recognize gayism as a human right and will NEVER change its mind on that issue. The international treaties signed by Uganda does not mention gayism and we will never allow opportunists to give false interpretations to any of the vague provisions in these treaties.

  • Richard Willmer

    If you say so, ‘Maazi’.

    Let’s see what actually transpires, rather than indulge in hyperbolic rhetoric. (I can see that you are ‘tub-thumping’ mode today – though you are still clearly terrified of admitting who you really are, of course.)

  • Richard Willmer

    I think there’s an aspect of the overall situation that you might be forgetting. ‘Maazi’.

    If Bahati and his henchmen were to be allowed to get away with their ‘legalized’ programme of slaughter and/or repression, other African countries might play ‘copy-cat’, with widespread and highly undesirable results. Let me use a military analogy here (since you like to use a ‘military’ pseudonym): if one wants to neutralize a single column of tanks advancing along a narrow road, then the least costly and bloody way to do it is to disable the leading vehicle.

  • Richard Willmer

    Interesting film just out: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/34545931/a-missionary-position

    I’ll watch it when I’ve a little more time (lots of work to mark – and students to support – this week).

  • Maazi NCO

    Interesting film just out: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/34545931/a-missionary-position

    I’ll watch it when I’ve a little more time (lots of work to mark – and students to support – this week).

    I think the ugandan guy just wants your money. He knows that gayism is an emotional issue for you chaps in the west. The smart chap has calculated that it is much more rewarding financially to do a positive documentary on gayism than on the thousands of people who died in the war in Northern Uganda which is still ongoing albeit on a low intensity. I wish the guy success in money-making and entering mainstream hollywood !!!

  • Maazi NCO

    If Bahati and his henchmen were to be allowed to get away with their ‘legalized’ programme of slaughter and/or repression, other African countries might play ‘copy-cat’, with widespread and highly undesirable results.

    Very, very typical. The African is always depicted as a savage ! Countries will make their own decisions regardless of what we do here in Uganda. Malawi expanded its anti-gay law without any encouragement from MP David Bahati. So I have no idea what you talking about. All this talk about mindless copy-cating is just a racial stereotype which has merely reinforced my determination to work harder with like-minded Ugandans to get the legal code updated.

  • Richard Willmer

    Bahati has made clear he wants others to follow his example. It is only prudent to take him at his word, just in case …

    (Can you blame people for having a rather low regard for those, like Bahati, who want mindless slaughter? http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/08/10728/)

  • Richard Willmer

    By the way, ‘Maazi’, I have many UG friends, and have the highest regard for them. This issue is not about race; it is about politics, conscience and the abuse of power.

  • Richard Willmer

    One more point, ‘Maazi’: you already seem pretty determined to make things even worse than they are already for your gay compatriots, so your latest huffing and puffing doesn’t really surprise me.

  • Richard Willmer

    I have in the past suggested that attitudes in UG to lesbians and gay men are changing for the better. Buturo seems to agree with me (though he doesn’t like it, of course).

    http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/20/758456

    (As one might expect, some of Buturo’s dialectic is disingenuous. He talks about people “misleading society into believing that anal sex is at par with heterosexual sex”, but fails to admit that those who, like him, support Bahati’s proposed programme of repression and slaughter often use lies about gay people in an attempt to ‘justify’ their bloodlust. He also mentions ‘aid cuts’: well, wasn’t it only fair to warn UG politicians of the possible consequences of approving Bahati’s slaughter programme, so that an informed choice could be made? Oh, by the way, I see NJB approves of a good spanking!)

  • Richard Willmer

    NJB also says this: “Before long, these nations will again threateningly put pressure on Uganda to accept this perversion within our borders.”

    Just for the record: in the same year that the United Kingdom made legal provision for same-sex partnerships, laws specifically and explicitly against bestiality were introduced for the first time. (Not that bestiality was, as far as anyone knows, at all widespread int he UK before 2004, by the way – but I suppose it was felt that the previous legislation relating to such matters could do with being clarified.)

    NJB’s statement above is just more disingenuous rhetoric designed to smear ideological opponents and to frighten the ignorant.

  • StraightGrandmother

    David Bahati.= “Cruelity For Christ” how Christian of him…

  • Richard Willmer

    Whoops! Should have that NJB was referring to bestiality (one of those old old favourite topics of the professional homophobe) in his statement above.

  • Richard Willmer

    @ StraightGrandmother :

    I suspect that Bahati is on a political junket, but he’s got all carried away by what probably started put as some cheap political opportunism. Mind you, for people like us, he and Buturo provide wonderful opportunities for sharp, effective and productive propaganda against homophobia. They have, often by their own words and bizarre behaviour, given us some good ‘traction’ on this important human rights issue.

  • Richard Willmer

    Just had a thought: what a good thing that Saint Joseph, and not Buturo or Bahati, was the fiance of the Blessed Virgin all those years ago!

  • Richard Willmer

    (Mind you, to be fair to the two Bs: S. Joseph was an exceptional personality – “he was that just man, that wise and loyal servant …”)

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