League of the South President Says Immigration Reform Could Spark True Civil War

Michael Hill, president of the League of the South appeared on the American Nationalist Network on Saturday (8/3). The ANN is the radio arm of a new white nationalist organization, the American Nationalist Association. It appears that the ANA leaders are Holocaust deniers/revisionists.

On the program, among other things, Hill said if the Congress passes immigration reform, there will be a secession or a civil war. At 47:40 into the interview, Hill says:

Michael Hill: You talk about a transformation in 1965? That would be a slow and gradual transformation compared to what will happen if they pass this amnesty act in 2013 or 2014. The changes there will be immediate and drastic.

Rodney Martin: Absolutely.

Hill: The South will either leave the union, or there will be another civil, a true civil war.

Martin: You know, you mention civil war, I think if they do, if they ramrod this amnesty bill through, then I think where I talked about the United States being a Soviet Union, I think overnight, we become Yugoslavia, and it becomes not a pretty picture.

Hill: It’s going to be extremely ugly.

Martin: I’m not sure that this power elite in Washington really understand how people feel about when they look out their front doors and see that their government, obviously its not our government anymore, they don’t represent us. They’re looking to replace us. They’re looking to ethnically cleanse us from our own lands.

Hill: This is genocide.

Martin: That’s exactly what it is.

Hill: This is genocide; this is anti-white genocide.

The American Nationalist Association promotes the American National (radio) Network. One of the first guests was David Duke; other early guests were leaders in the American Nazi Party. On their website, the ANA lauds Hitler and Goebbels in a section of the website titled “fundamental truths.” The Hitler quote indicates their position on Jews:

“He who would live must fight. He who does not wish to fight in this world, where permanent struggle is the law of life, has not the right to exist.”

“Should the Jew, with the aid of his Marxist creed, triumph over the people of this world, his Crown will be the funeral wreath of mankind, and this planet will once again follow its orbit through ether, without any human life on its surface, as it did millions of years ago.

And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the handiwork of the Lord.”

– Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

Earlier in the broadcast, Hill advertised the League of the South’s rally against demographic displacement to be held in Uvalda, GA. According to the League, Mexicans are taking jobs that he says should belong to whites (“Anglo-celtic southerners” to use his term) and so they are protesting a mayor there who supports the immigrants.  Despite his warning over civil war, Hill acknowledged that he hopes immigration or the “gun issue” leads to people being willing to consider Southern secession.

Hill was asked to name the main concern for League of the South members. Hill responded (22:54):

I tell you what the unifying issue is for people in the League: It is that we must have our independence in order to assure our survival and well being as a people. That overshadows everything, our survival, our well-being hinges on our independence as a people.

What people is Hill talking about? Earlier in the program (7:25) he identified the group.

First of all, this is about our survival as a people, white Southerners of European descent.

Some commenters on this blog and in emails have asserted that the League is interested in preserving Southern culture and less interested in matters of race. While that might have been true at one time, it appears to me that the League in recent years has moved more toward white nationalist position. He was certainly clear on this program that the League’s concerns are “blood and soil,” i.e.,  race and region.

Given the fact that Institute on the Constitution founder, director and teacher, Michael Peroutka, just joined the League board of directors and pledged the IOTC’s resources to the League, it was surprising to hear Hill say at 26:38 that the members of the League are not “constitutionalists.”

The Constitution has been a bad deal for the South; we’re anti-Federalists. We believe they should have stopped with the Articles of Confederation.

Which state seems most ripe for secession? According to Hill, South Carolina. A problem is they have a large black population. Hill later said he believes there will be a non-binding resolution for secession in SC sometime in the next two or three years. Hill said the League is always looking for a good “Leipzig-like” moment to provoke such a resolution. For Hill, as noted above, immigration reform could be that hoped-for moment.

As I was listening to this, I reminded myself that the same person who has a show on the National Religious Broadcasting network and Liberty University Network is a board member of the League and has pledged his resources to achieving the ends Michael Hill described on the broadcast.

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  • Bud Kennedy

    The old League was not openly hateful and simply said others could live free under a white-led Southern government. The racial tone has intensified.

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton Warren

      Bud, here is an inside observation to the same effect: http://www.tradyouth.org/2013/06/blood-and-soil/.

      Do you have a sense as to when the tone intensified?

    • JCF

      “others could live free under a white-led Southern government”

      Oh, THAT’S all!


      • Richard Willmer

        Shades of 1984? “Freedom is Slavery.”

  • Tom Van Dyke

    Some commenters on this blog and in emails have asserted that the League is interested in preserving Southern culture and less interested in matters of race.

    Well, this commenter says they’re cranks who just want attention, and that would-be anti-racist crusaders find them of much more interest than potential supporters.

    i’d like to see some membership figures, and also whether the “professors” and the like who started the organization are still with it, or if it’s just a radicalized shell of its former self.

    • Richard Willmer

      I suspect you’re right, Tom. At least I very much HOPE you are!

    • Richard Willmer

      Perhaps the biggest worry is that these nut jobs might get (more) ‘traction’ for their ideas through infiltrating and perverting churches and other ‘influential’ organizations. People do listen to their pastors and can be inclined to avoid subjecting what they hear from the pulpit or ambo to the appropriate critical evaluation.

      • Tom Van Dyke

        Well, Richard, the trick would be turning these racial resentments into actual political power. So far, that only works for Democrats. Charlie Rangel [D-NY] can still get away with calling the Tea Party “crackers” who just like the Bull Connors who turned fire hoses on Civil Rights Movement marchers.


        It’s a disgrace, but so is the corrupt Charlie Rangel. [As he’s a “war hero” of the Civil Rights days, as a nation we’re just letting him play out the clock until he has the decency to retire or die.]

        On the immigration issue–and you bring up churches–I would venture this: Although there is indeed “white” opposition to importing 10-30 million Christian immigrants from Latin America, it’s more for their 3rd grade educations and politico-cultural affinity for socialist government.

        I’ll wager that they’d much prefer all the college-educated entrepreneurial Hindus we can get. Although they’re Christian converts, think the quite dark-skinned Bobby Jindal, Republican governor of Louisiana, or the Punjabi governor of South Carolina, Nikki Haley—more accurately their immigrant parents, whom I’d guess might still be Hindus.

        I mean, Louisiana and South Carolina are southern states! Jindal and Haley put the lie to the power or effectiveness of any league of a “white” South.

  • forumsforjustice

    Let’s not make our existing Illegal Immigration Problem any worse than it already is

    Illegal Immigrant Employment, as it now exists, within our United States

    Less than 4% of all the illegal immigrants, in our United States, are working in agriculture.

    ON-THE-BOOKS, EIGHT MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are working in, non-agriculture, American jobs, by using false, or stolen SS numbers. Using SS mismatches, DHS knows where these illegal immigrants are working. http://bit.ly/15q9Axg

    OFF-THE-BOOKS, there’s a rapidly expanding $2+ Trillion Underground Economy in the U.S,, which has doubled in the last four years, driven by the continued inflow of illegal immigrants, and more U.S. employers contracting work out to them http://bit.ly/H0uAQi

    Immigration Reform does absolutely nothing to address the issue of the Underground Economy. It is doubtful that many of the illegal immigrants working in the underground economy would opt for citizenship. The illegal immigrants will still be here working off-the-books, and as long as there are jobs are available, more illegal immigrants will come .. More than 12.5%, 1/8th of our economy is OFF-THE-BOOKs, tax-free, under the table. An estimated $500 billion in tax revenue is currently lost due to the underground economy. That number is growing.

    11.1 million illegal immigrants? GMAB

    more at: http://bit.ly/166R8ff.

    • Richard Willmer

      ‘Forumetc’ says “Immigration Reform does absolutely nothing to address the issue of the Underground Economy.”

      What is your suggestion then, ‘forum’?

      Does, in your view, the (IMO racist) ideology of the League constitute any kind of ‘solution’? Or what?

      Perhaps the REAL questions are: Why are jobs (allegedly) available that US residents don’t want to take, and so are filled by immigrants? Why do some employers apparently prefer to employ immigrants?