This morning Sutton Turner posted his third in a series of reflections on the ResultSource decision and church governance.Mainly Turner concerns himself with the debate over the role of elders in a large church versus a small one. Instead of making a biblical argument, he offers a utilitarian defense of bringing in outside advisers to govern a church they don't attend. His rationale is that God has allowed mega-churches to get really big so He must be fine with different rules for … [Read more...]
Former Mars Hill Church executive elder Sutton Turner has posted part two of his reflections (he posted part one yesterday) on the decision to commit church funds to buy Mark Driscoll's book Real Marriage on to the New York Times best-seller list.In this post, Turner takes credit for changing Mars Hill by-laws to include the Board of Advisors and Accountability. The BoAA consisted of three executive elders (Driscoll, Bruskas, and Turner) and four outsiders (various members at different … [Read more...]
Today, Mark Driscoll offered several former coaching videos on his website. These are videos he developed in 2011 with the offer of leadership coaching materials through The Resurgence website. This 2011 email gives the details.Above is an image of the email heading. The content is below: From Pastor Mark Driscoll:Being a leader is wonderfully complicated. Whether it’s leading in family, business, or ministry, leaders face particular challenges that make simultaneous joy and fru … [Read more...]
Former executive elder of Mars Hill Church Sutton Turner wrote today about his part in the ResultSource scheme to get Mark Driscoll's book Real Marriage on to the New York Times Best Seller list. The bottom line is that he is now saying he didn't agree with it.In addition to reflecting on the use of the consulting group ResultSource, Turner also addresses some of the same ground as he did in 2012 the executive elder memo I posted last year.Turner also confirms the essential contents of … [Read more...]
A Year Ago World Magazine Broke the Mark Driscoll New York Times Best-Seller List Story; Will Hillsong Host His Comeback?
Seems like yesterday that ResultSource and Mars Hill Church's book selling scheme came into the public consciousness. However, it was a year ago today that Warren Smith's article was posted. The next day, I posted the contract signed by Mars Hill Church executive pastor Sutton Turner and ResultSource CEO Kevin Small that spelled out the arrangements which if followed would lead to a spot on the New York Times best-seller list.While it took several months for Mars Hill Church to unravel, that … [Read more...]
I don't know the issues but I post this because it will probably be of interest to readers who follow megachurch news.Baptists' Message to NewSpring: You're not one of usNoble has admitted to using Resultsource (at least he admitted it) but he did not take profits from the book (different than Mars Hill and according to former Turning Point CFO George C. Hale, David Jeremiah).Perhaps a NewSpringInsida will show up to enlighten us. Or maybe a NewSpring mattc will provide the church … [Read more...]
Why Did David Jeremiah’s Turning Point Give Up Membership in the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability?
When I first heard former Turning Point CFO George Hale’s account of David Jeremiah’s methods of gaining spots on best-seller lists, I checked the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability membership directory to see if David Jeremiah's ministry, Turning Point, was a member organization. It is not.I checked because, in 2014, ECFA president Dan Busby took a public stance against the best-seller list manipulation scheme paid for by Mars Hill Church. At the time, he first told Ruth Gra … [Read more...]
Former Chief Financial Officer at Turning Point Claims David Jeremiah Used Questionable Methods to Secure a Spot on Best Seller Lists
George C. Hale once worked for David Jeremiah at Shadow Mountain Community Church and Turning Point Ministry. Hale resigned in 2009 because he had misgivings about the way Jeremiah handled his book marketing and sales. From Hale, I have obtained an open letter to David Jeremiah and Turning Point Ministry. As he discloses in the letter below, Hale has approached David Jeremiah and Jeremiah's agent, Sealy Yates, about the best-seller methodology. For several weeks, I have periodically reached out … [Read more...]