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	<description>A modern Pagan perspective</description>
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		<title>By: The Wild Hunt &#187; Quick Notes: Library Books, Moore on Spare, and O&#8217;Donnell Dominates</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2006/10/persecution-or-hijinks.html#comment-679</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wild Hunt &#187; Quick Notes: Library Books, Moore on Spare, and O&#8217;Donnell Dominates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 17:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] get nicked on a regular basis. Why? Well, there&#8217;s the shame theory, as elucidated above, and there&#8217;s the anti-occult thievery theory as well. “People take them because they don’t want other people to read about witchcraft, and people [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] get nicked on a regular basis. Why? Well, there&#8217;s the shame theory, as elucidated above, and there&#8217;s the anti-occult thievery theory as well. “People take them because they don’t want other people to read about witchcraft, and people [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chas S. Clifton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas S. Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my wife&#039;s and my experience with both libraries and bookstores, where we both have worked, books on &quot;the occult&quot; are most often stolen by occultists themselves.These people frequently think that &quot;mere humans&quot; cannot comprehend the material in the books, nor should they be allowed to make silly rules about how godlike adepts might acquire them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my wife&#8217;s and my experience with both libraries and bookstores, where we both have worked, books on &#8220;the occult&#8221; are most often stolen by occultists themselves.These people frequently think that &#8220;mere humans&#8221; cannot comprehend the material in the books, nor should they be allowed to make silly rules about how godlike adepts might acquire them.</p>
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		<title>By: The Pagan Temple</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2006/10/persecution-or-hijinks.html#comment-677</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pagan Temple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rimrunner-I&#039;m kind of speaking from experience. A lot of these small town libraries are badly underfunded, and depend on donations, of money and books, as well as fund raising efforts, such as book fairs, etc. That puts more pressure on them from civic and other such groups. The library in my little town, a very conservative Christian area, is an example of a library that functions-baely so-in this way.The number of occult, New Age, pagan books you can find there would require the use of a divining rod. They are very few, and far between. When you have to request that your library borrow books by people like Scott Cunningham from other libraries, that gives you an idea. Plus, after three or so such requests, which were granted, the lady who was the head librarian at the time started giving me this snotty attitude, even accussed me once of owing a fine that I know I didn&#039;t owe. It was only a dime, but I told her I didn&#039;t owe it. I knew she was just being a little bitch. Anyway, she knocked off the fine. Sure, it was only a dime, but it was the principle.So this idea that all librarians are saints who would never betray their higher ideals just don&#039;t cut it with me. They are in many cases just like any other county employees, in my case it&#039;s a position that has been handed down more or less through three generations of the same family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rimrunner-I&#8217;m kind of speaking from experience. A lot of these small town libraries are badly underfunded, and depend on donations, of money and books, as well as fund raising efforts, such as book fairs, etc. That puts more pressure on them from civic and other such groups. The library in my little town, a very conservative Christian area, is an example of a library that functions-baely so-in this way.The number of occult, New Age, pagan books you can find there would require the use of a divining rod. They are very few, and far between. When you have to request that your library borrow books by people like Scott Cunningham from other libraries, that gives you an idea. Plus, after three or so such requests, which were granted, the lady who was the head librarian at the time started giving me this snotty attitude, even accussed me once of owing a fine that I know I didn&#8217;t owe. It was only a dime, but I told her I didn&#8217;t owe it. I knew she was just being a little bitch. Anyway, she knocked off the fine. Sure, it was only a dime, but it was the principle.So this idea that all librarians are saints who would never betray their higher ideals just don&#8217;t cut it with me. They are in many cases just like any other county employees, in my case it&#8217;s a position that has been handed down more or less through three generations of the same family.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne Johnson:&lt;i&gt;My local library doesn&#039;t have the money to secure its collection. One of the librarians told me that every time they put a book about Bruce Springsteen on the shelf it disappears within a week. &lt;/i&gt;Lack of money is the principal issue. RFID is the most secure method available, but it&#039;s very, very expensive. The more usual method is tattle-tape, but this can be removed by someone with sufficient motivation--it&#039;s just a strip of wire inside a layer of sticky tape, and it&#039;s not even attached to the book.And some places can&#039;t afford even that, which leads to the problem you describe. The public system I worked in in high school had no security system at all.Pagan Temple:&lt;i&gt;As for the pagan books missing from the libraries, my guess is they are being quietly done away with by the library staff due to complaints by Christian groups.&lt;/i&gt;Any librarian that behaved in such a way would be in egregious violation the ethical standards of the profession. I have to say that, given how much work librarians do to make the process of challenging books transparent, and to keep challenged books on shelves, I&#039;m a little offended at the suggestion. (Could it happen? Sure. However, I think the assumption is unwarranted.)That is, of course, something the reporter could have checked into a little more thoroughly--whether books had been checked out and never returned, or simply stolen.-rimrunner @ LJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne Johnson:<i>My local library doesn&#8217;t have the money to secure its collection. One of the librarians told me that every time they put a book about Bruce Springsteen on the shelf it disappears within a week. </i>Lack of money is the principal issue. RFID is the most secure method available, but it&#8217;s very, very expensive. The more usual method is tattle-tape, but this can be removed by someone with sufficient motivation&#8211;it&#8217;s just a strip of wire inside a layer of sticky tape, and it&#8217;s not even attached to the book.And some places can&#8217;t afford even that, which leads to the problem you describe. The public system I worked in in high school had no security system at all.Pagan Temple:<i>As for the pagan books missing from the libraries, my guess is they are being quietly done away with by the library staff due to complaints by Christian groups.</i>Any librarian that behaved in such a way would be in egregious violation the ethical standards of the profession. I have to say that, given how much work librarians do to make the process of challenging books transparent, and to keep challenged books on shelves, I&#8217;m a little offended at the suggestion. (Could it happen? Sure. However, I think the assumption is unwarranted.)That is, of course, something the reporter could have checked into a little more thoroughly&#8211;whether books had been checked out and never returned, or simply stolen.-rimrunner @ LJ</p>
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		<title>By: The Pagan Temple</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2006/10/persecution-or-hijinks.html#comment-675</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pagan Temple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing that needs to be looked into is the fucntion of the disabilities group. The defacement of their posters might well have been a politically oriented hate crime. Some of these groups tend to be very politically activist, and engage in the same level of political correctness that inspire so much anger for otehr groups. At one time they were publicly insisting that the terms &quot;mentally retarded&quot; be dropped, for one example.As for the pagan books missing from the libraries, my guess is they are being quietly done away with by the library staff due to complaints by Christian groups. That&#039;s just a guess though. If they were being checked out, and not returned, there should be a record of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that needs to be looked into is the fucntion of the disabilities group. The defacement of their posters might well have been a politically oriented hate crime. Some of these groups tend to be very politically activist, and engage in the same level of political correctness that inspire so much anger for otehr groups. At one time they were publicly insisting that the terms &#8220;mentally retarded&#8221; be dropped, for one example.As for the pagan books missing from the libraries, my guess is they are being quietly done away with by the library staff due to complaints by Christian groups. That&#8217;s just a guess though. If they were being checked out, and not returned, there should be a record of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pagans can donate good used books to their local libraries or raise funds for a special pagan book fund. Most libraries would not turn them down and would even place a nice &quot;donated by ___&quot; sticker inside the front cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pagans can donate good used books to their local libraries or raise funds for a special pagan book fund. Most libraries would not turn them down and would even place a nice &#8220;donated by ___&#8221; sticker inside the front cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2006/10/persecution-or-hijinks.html#comment-673</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My local library doesn&#039;t have the money to secure its collection. One of the librarians told me that every time they put a book about Bruce Springsteen on the shelf it disappears within a week. (I live in NJ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My local library doesn&#8217;t have the money to secure its collection. One of the librarians told me that every time they put a book about Bruce Springsteen on the shelf it disappears within a week. (I live in NJ).</p>
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