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	<title>Comments on: Kathie Lee Gifford and the &quot;Nasty&quot; Pagan Controversy</title>
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		<title>By: The Wild Hunt &#187; Can&#8217;t Attack Monotheism? There&#8217;s Always the Pagans.</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2008/06/kathie-lee-gifford-and-nasty-pagan.html#comment-2239</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wild Hunt &#187; Can&#8217;t Attack Monotheism? There&#8217;s Always the Pagans.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 15:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (who look to the pre-Christian religions that Ramis satirizes) should fight genuine hate-speech but avoid the tone-deaf excesses of some &#8220;rights&#8221; groups. &#8220;&#8230;the last thing I want to see is for Pagans to adopt the tactics of groups like the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (who look to the pre-Christian religions that Ramis satirizes) should fight genuine hate-speech but avoid the tone-deaf excesses of some &#8220;rights&#8221; groups. &#8220;&#8230;the last thing I want to see is for Pagans to adopt the tactics of groups like the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like gollum we should pity her. how did she manage to become a T.V. personality anyway? does she really fill your head that much space where her opinions keep us lying awake at night worried about what Kathy Lee- Gifford thinks of us? I have bigger creatures in my head to do battle with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like gollum we should pity her. how did she manage to become a T.V. personality anyway? does she really fill your head that much space where her opinions keep us lying awake at night worried about what Kathy Lee- Gifford thinks of us? I have bigger creatures in my head to do battle with.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said before, though I doubt that it was to be funny, In her position she should have done her research prior to any comments to be made.  She knew better but she did it anyways.  that is the bottom line, and her blanket apology just showed how much lack of concern for our religion she has.  Had it been anyone else she would have been made to do a public specific apology.Kastrata</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said before, though I doubt that it was to be funny, In her position she should have done her research prior to any comments to be made.  She knew better but she did it anyways.  that is the bottom line, and her blanket apology just showed how much lack of concern for our religion she has.  Had it been anyone else she would have been made to do a public specific apology.Kastrata</p>
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		<title>By: Tamrha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamrha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While a Iagree with what many are saying... that maybe she was being funny, or that she&#039;s clueless, or &#039;brassy&#039;... Would it have flown if she said &#039;nasty, bad Jews?&#039; or &#039;nasty bad Muslims?&#039;I don&#039;t think so. Regardless of her intention to be funny or if she&#039;s just clueless, there are other ways to joke around while not using a religious group, a race, a sexuality or whatever to do it. As Pagans of whatever trad. we need to be solid on that fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While a Iagree with what many are saying&#8230; that maybe she was being funny, or that she&#8217;s clueless, or &#8216;brassy&#8217;&#8230; Would it have flown if she said &#8216;nasty, bad Jews?&#8217; or &#8216;nasty bad Muslims?&#8217;I don&#8217;t think so. Regardless of her intention to be funny or if she&#8217;s just clueless, there are other ways to joke around while not using a religious group, a race, a sexuality or whatever to do it. As Pagans of whatever trad. we need to be solid on that fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Grommett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint Grommett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have time to read through all these comments, so sorry if I repeat another&#039;s.  Those who &quot;take her side&quot; seem to forget that Kathy Lee is a bible-thumper, who has gospel music records.  She tried to make her comment seem less serious, but knowing her background, she intentionally badmouthed Pagans because she&#039;s filled with hate for anyone who&#039;s not xtian.  Yes, I&#039;m making some assumptions here, but so is she by saying people who are non-violent, clean, and love the earth are &quot;nasty.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have time to read through all these comments, so sorry if I repeat another&#8217;s.  Those who &#8220;take her side&#8221; seem to forget that Kathy Lee is a bible-thumper, who has gospel music records.  She tried to make her comment seem less serious, but knowing her background, she intentionally badmouthed Pagans because she&#8217;s filled with hate for anyone who&#8217;s not xtian.  Yes, I&#8217;m making some assumptions here, but so is she by saying people who are non-violent, clean, and love the earth are &#8220;nasty.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you missed it,a shortened version of her mocking apology is up at...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiGaEYAjGnkAlot of people that were willing to let her remarks slide changed their minds after seeing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you missed it,a shortened version of her mocking apology is up at&#8230;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiGaEYAjGnkAlot" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiGaEYAjGnkAlot</a> of people that were willing to let her remarks slide changed their minds after seeing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that I am sure she meant no harm by it, but in all honosty, if we let her slide by because of her ignorance then we are giving a free pass to all with low knowledge of paganism.  Which by the way is what one of our biggest problems are is the christians lack of understanding of the the Pagan religion.If you as a live television show speaker, wish to make a comment on something whether as a sarcastic poke to some one or as a sarcastic joke to start off the day.  Then you should do your homework prior to such an act.  That is the responsabilities of as such a person.    I have great patience for people but ones who think they are never wrong and take advantage of a position given to them by the people they serve.  And Kathie Lee Gifford serves the nation which we live in, no matter how ignorant she is.  And as in such a position as we have placed her she denotes a certain set of responsabilities as I have stated above.  As a Pagan community we should not sit so lightly on such a subject.  For though she may lowly rated.  Our goal is to help the rest of the world better understand our beliefs, but when one who&#039;s voice can be hears cross country no matter how it is taken we cannot afford such a chance as her discrediting our attempts.  Because there are several people out there who hang onto every word she says.  And I am sure the chances of one of them having a heavy influence quite possibly exists.  And to top it all off she gave quite the non heartfelt apology, to us even though many of us calmly and politely asked for one. For some one who didn&#039;t know she offended anyone, only to find out she did, she sure didn&#039;t seem to care, and if anything she seemed to find it rude we would ask for such a thing.  I personally believe she gives no absolution to the pagan religion.  So yes I signed the petition and I even wrote the station a calm yet stern letter of how I felt about her original statement and her heartless apology.  And I still feel you should all do the same. With the up most respectGrand Priest Kastrata Almohnd MaeveCenturian Coven, Guardians of the Goddess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that I am sure she meant no harm by it, but in all honosty, if we let her slide by because of her ignorance then we are giving a free pass to all with low knowledge of paganism.  Which by the way is what one of our biggest problems are is the christians lack of understanding of the the Pagan religion.If you as a live television show speaker, wish to make a comment on something whether as a sarcastic poke to some one or as a sarcastic joke to start off the day.  Then you should do your homework prior to such an act.  That is the responsabilities of as such a person.    I have great patience for people but ones who think they are never wrong and take advantage of a position given to them by the people they serve.  And Kathie Lee Gifford serves the nation which we live in, no matter how ignorant she is.  And as in such a position as we have placed her she denotes a certain set of responsabilities as I have stated above.  As a Pagan community we should not sit so lightly on such a subject.  For though she may lowly rated.  Our goal is to help the rest of the world better understand our beliefs, but when one who&#8217;s voice can be hears cross country no matter how it is taken we cannot afford such a chance as her discrediting our attempts.  Because there are several people out there who hang onto every word she says.  And I am sure the chances of one of them having a heavy influence quite possibly exists.  And to top it all off she gave quite the non heartfelt apology, to us even though many of us calmly and politely asked for one. For some one who didn&#8217;t know she offended anyone, only to find out she did, she sure didn&#8217;t seem to care, and if anything she seemed to find it rude we would ask for such a thing.  I personally believe she gives no absolution to the pagan religion.  So yes I signed the petition and I even wrote the station a calm yet stern letter of how I felt about her original statement and her heartless apology.  And I still feel you should all do the same. With the up most respectGrand Priest Kastrata Almohnd MaeveCenturian Coven, Guardians of the Goddess.</p>
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