Comments on: Tom K. (Phoenix) 1933 – 2008

By: Amazing

Amazing — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:35:00 +0000

Phoenix was my first HP and initiated me into the Craft back in the early ’70′s and for this I am humbly grateful! He was a funny, wise and down to earth man and I know he will be reborn in the same place and time as those he loved! BBMariposaP.S. In the old days we didn’t worry about labels so much.

By: Jason Pitzl-Waters

Jason Pitzl-Waters — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:45:00 +0000

“Phoenix should be remembered for his kindness, humor, bluntness, prolific writing, and deep devotion to Wicca, and not as the author of a schism.”You are right, and I have removed that portion of the article. I only included it initially because it was mentioned in “The Encyclopedia of Modern Witchcraft and Neo-Paganism”.

By: Deborah

Deborah — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:02:00 +0000

Shadowhawk, there is a specific tradition known as “British Traditional Witchcraft.” There is also a phrase, “British Traditional Wicca,” that refers collectively to certain other traditions, including Gardnerian and Alexandrian. Distinguishing between two different terms doesn’t make anyone jealous or a hater.

By: Deborah

Deborah — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:00:00 +0000

Phoenix was a great priest and man and his presence in the Craft will be missed. May he be born again to those who loved him.I hate to quibble in the middle of an obit, but the authoring of the notes and guidelines is not the cause of any Gardnerian schism. In fact, there is a notes and guidelines document co-authored by Phoenix, and there are schisms within Gardnerianism, and there are Long Island and Kentucky “lines” (two different Kentucky lines, in fact), but these three things are not really related to one another. Phoenix should be remembered for his kindness, humor, bluntness, prolific writing, and deep devotion to Wicca, and not as the author of a schism.

By: Shadowhawk

Shadowhawk — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:46:00 +0000

Ive always wondered why the jealousy between WITCHES and WICCANS.. seems one is in the spotlight and the other isnt.. anyone who claims to be a NON wiccan WITCH.. is just a hater.. and in my mind if you werent practicing your craft before 1950 your just a hater.. you say potato i say BTW.. and the W is WITCH and WICCAN..

By: Jason Pitzl-Waters

Jason Pitzl-Waters — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:10:00 +0000

Fair enough, I have changed the text on the entry.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:06:00 +0000

Minor quibble: British Traditional Wicca, please – there is enough confusion between Wicca and trad. witchcraft.