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More ARIS Reaction

As news concerning Trinity College’s American Religious Identification Survey data from 2008 starts to seep into the blogosphere, we’re starting to get some initial reactions and meditations on what it all means. Beliefnet’s Pagan blogger Gus diZerega wonders if the religious right has poisoned the well, ultimately benefiting the Pagan community.

“Now the Religious’ Right has worked hard to push their ghastly conception of a deity down everyone’s throats, where all talk of love and charity has been drowned out by belches of bigotry and ignorance, hatred and greed.  Fortunately more people are repulsed by this business than are attracted … [Pagans] have no problem with science, are tolerant of spiritual differences, and address constructively many of the biggest political and cultural issues of our day. The numbers of nontraditional religious groups, including us, now number 2.8 million calling themselves Wiccan, Pagan, or Spiritualist, up to 1.4% from .8% since 1990, all without seeking converts.  Our biggest problem is a shortage of qualified teachers compared to the demand for them. I believe there will be more of us in the next survey.”

Another Pagan blogger, Lonnie at “Here In The Cave of Wonder…”, looks at the numbers on a state-by-state basis.

“That said, while specific numbers aren’t available for Virginia yet, “other” religions seemed to have grown at a rate of only 1%. So, it’s still likely that my own observations have been true, but just not true for Connecticut (+5%). Other areas, did indeed shrink in numbers of people practicing alternative religions including RI (-1), FL (-1), MA( -1), NY (-2%), NH (-2%), and WY (-8%). For around 15 states there was no change at all.”

Meanwhile, the Get Religion blog names the “mini-rise of the Wiccans” as a discernable subplot to the ARIS story. So you can expect a number of journalists will most likely be nosing around the “NRMs and Other Faiths” in the near future to figure out why we’re growing while others shrink. As for Christian pundits, there is some (prophetic?) doom-saying going on. Pastor Tony Beam at Crosswalk partially blames “aggressive atheism” and “new age nonsense” for the current declines in Christendom.

“The combination of traditional religious teaching with the new age concept of spirituality.  The “Oprahization” of the church is well under way with millions now tuning in (through TV and the web) and turning on to Oprah Winfrey’s brand of homogenized religion.  Being spiritual, as defined by Eckhart Tolle and others means simply believing in a nebulous force that might work well for Star Wars Jedi but in the real world, is nothing but new age nonsense.”

While Beam thinks Christians can turn things around if they buckle down, author Michael Spencer at the Christian Science Monitor believes a major evangelical collapse is right around the corner.

“Within two generations, evangelicalism will be a house deserted of half its occupants. (Between 25 and 35 percent of Americans today are Evangelicals.) In the “Protestant” 20th century, Evangelicals flourished. But they will soon be living in a very secular and religiously antagonistic 21st century. This collapse will herald the arrival of an anti-Christian chapter of the post-Christian West. Intolerance of Christianity will rise to levels many of us have not believed possible in our lifetimes, and public policy will become hostile toward evangelical Christianity, seeing it as the opponent of the common good. Millions of Evangelicals will quit. Thousands of ministries will end. Christian media will be reduced, if not eliminated. Many Christian schools will go into rapid decline.”

That’s some strong stuff, and it gets even stronger on his blog. This (alleged) fragility of the evangelical boom seems to born out by ARIS researcher Mark Silk who discusses the finding with the Telegraph.

Mark Silk, who oversaw the findings, said: “There is now this shift in the non-Catholic population – and maybe among American Christians in general – into a sort of generic, soft evangelicalism. “If people call themselves evangelical, it doesn’t tell you as much as you think it tells you about what kind of church they go to. It deepens the conundrum about who evangelicals are.”

And the media storm continues fast and furious. Steven Waldman notes that “No Religion” is now the fastest growing religion in America (sorry Wicca!), while Touchstone Magazine claims that Wiccans and “self-described pagans” are growing faster than we did in the 1990s, and Commonweal bemoans the “real-time effects” of  America’s “anti-religion” bias. And on, and on, and on. It looks like there is some serious re-evaluating going on and modern Pagans (being one of the few “winners” here) may end up getting a lot more attention from this story than we think. Expect lots and lots of essays and articles in the coming weeks and months to mention the ARIS data, and for some religious groups to be emboldened (or feel threatened, or both) by what that survey says.

11 responses so far

  • Testing

    I have to wonder about observing that the states where the number of people reporting 'Other' religion reducing happen to be ones with big urban bases and rising costs of living. In New England, particularly, it was noted that a lot of the older and more longstanding populations are in general …moving elsewhere.

    Often not being in the mightiest economic classes, and given a general inclination for a lot of city Pagans to want to get out to more rural areas, (as well as live entirely by cell phones and thus often miss landline-based surveys) I wonder if the state-by state analysis has to do with many of us actually moving.

  • http://rivergarth.blogspot.com/ Morning_Angel

    "as well as live entirely by cell phones and thus often miss landline-based surveys"

    I haven't read the particular methods used by this survey, but I have noticed a few recently that state that cell phone users were included. Perhaps the pollsters are keeping up with these changes? Good points, all, nonetheless. It's always good to question and ponder the methods used by these folks.

  • William78610

    "Michael Spencer at the Christian Science Monitor believes a major evangelical collapse is right around the corner."

    That is dangerous thinking. Our military is being christianized to the extreme. Our government's largest security contractor, Blakwater is owned by Erik Prince & family, one of the biggest names in evangelicalism that you never heard of.
    While it is true that Americans by and large are moderate in their religious views, these are not the people who have the finances and the political clout , it is the extreme religious right who does.
    Google words like 'third wave' which Sara Palin is a part of, Joel's Army, and go pay a vistit to talk2action.org

    With FloxNews' Glenn Beck & Chuck Norris pretty much fomenting a civil war( google chuck norris march 13th), we are foolish to believe that the christianist extremists are going away. We made that mistake during the Clinton years, and look where it got us. They have literally infiltrated every aspect of our society

    I will leave it at that

    but please at least visit talk2action.org, it is a site run by moderate christians.

  • Delurker

    I for one am saddened at what one of the worlds greatest religious traditions has become. But they brought it upon themselves.

  • Alex

    Sorry, but the time is neigh when evangelicals suggest we come to Jesus and we reply "led by you and WHAT army?". When I swore to protect and defend the constitution of the United States, it was from ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic, and that includes these holier than thou (censored) trying to shove their God down everybody's throat. It's time to suggest that THEY shove it up their (consored).

  • Bjorn Odinsson

    Heilsa Alex! I agree with you whole heartedly, you might enjoy my rantings on my blog. . .decidedly anti-Christian
    http://nakedwoadwarrior.wordpress.com/

  • Bjorn Odinsson

    Heilsa Alex! I agree with you whole heartedly, you might enjoy my rantings on my blog. . .decidedly anti-Christian
    http://nakedwoadwarrior.wordpress.com/

  • Riva

    The reason for RI droping is folks seeking Allt religions is mearly because people are moving out of here.
    RI is in a deep recession.

  • http://www.myspace.com/witchschool Ed Hubbard

    For me, the last 24 hours since this came out has been a whirlwind of talking. This has been a big report from the media point of view, from numerous sources, and shows that a lot of things in the Pagan Community movement is true. For me, the WSI site has experienced incredible growth since it's opening in 2001, and this will continue for the foreseable future. As Mr. DiZerega stated "Our biggest problem is a shortage of qualified teachers compared to the demand for them." is the central core of my life's work. ____As for media, the wave is coming soon, once they get a little bored with politics, which many expect in 60-90 days from now.

  • http://hereinthecaveofwonder.blogspot.com Lonnie

    I think that could be one reasonable explaination. Of course there is so much lacking in the data. I have many questions, for example,what is is the retention versus conversion level? In other words, how long are people sticking around in the movement? That might be a better indication of overall health than just numbers alone.

    I tried to answer one of them (how are groups doing compared to individuals), and it appears that states like NH which have seen big gains, saw very little increase in the number of groups while NY, who lost pagans seems to have grown quite a bit in terms of how many groups there are now.

    Also, it'd be good to know how many of us are in organized traditions versus being eclectic?

  • http://hereinthecaveofwonder.blogspot.com Lonnie

    I think that could be one reasonable explaination. Of course there is so much lacking in the data. I have many questions, for example,what is is the retention versus conversion level? In other words, how long are people sticking around in the movement? That might be a better indication of overall health than just numbers alone.

    I tried to answer one of them (how are groups doing compared to individuals), and it appears that states like NH which have seen big gains, saw very little increase in the number of groups while NY, who lost pagans seems to have grown quite a bit in terms of how many groups there are now.

    Also, it'd be good to know how many of us are in organized traditions versus being eclectic?