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	<title>Comments on: Santeria? Satanist? Something Else?</title>
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		<title>By: Lokisgodhi</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2009/12/santeria-satanist-something-else.html#comment-21171</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokisgodhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, you&#039;re assuming they&#039;d qualify as primates. Supposition, facts not in evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, you&#039;re assuming they&#039;d qualify as primates. Supposition, facts not in evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: KarenAScofield</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2009/12/santeria-satanist-something-else.html#comment-21170</link>
		<dc:creator>KarenAScofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, that seems to escape them.</description>
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		<title>By: The Wild Hunt &#187; Bloody Death-Pit or Anti-Santeria Vendetta?</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2009/12/santeria-satanist-something-else.html#comment-21169</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wild Hunt &#187; Bloody Death-Pit or Anti-Santeria Vendetta?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were made. The home, which contains dead animal remains,  was initially said to be the base of &#8220;satanic worship and Santeria rituals&#8221;. This later was clarified to simply Santeria, and the home of Santero Ramon Cruz, who is apparently [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] were made. The home, which contains dead animal remains,  was initially said to be the base of &#8220;satanic worship and Santeria rituals&#8221;. This later was clarified to simply Santeria, and the home of Santero Ramon Cruz, who is apparently [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2009/12/santeria-satanist-something-else.html#comment-21168</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. Some rare agreement from me since you&#039;re 100% right about this nonsense. Although I will point out that the idea that every person who does something we don&#039;t like to be associated with is disturbed is a bit of a cop out on our part. I&#039;ve &quot;met&quot; several people in my online travels that consider themselves pagans and sacrifice animals (and not just Heathens) and I know plenty of magicians who use blood in rituals, something that has made a comeback thanks to a book called Blood Magick which has been passed around the armchair occult community for the last couple of years.

Heck I threw a little cow blood around myself back in the day, though mine was purchased by the pint from a Spanish/Asian market in Jersey. Remember that Afro-carib magical practices were just as influenced by European occultism as anything else, and magical traditions develop in urban centers in interesting ways.

However the ASPCA though is just parroting New York&#039;s animal rights movement’s racist attacks on Santeria. When I lived there I had a vegan tell me we should deport all the Cubans because they &quot;tortured animals&quot; for their religion. Meh.

In your last post on this you question whether the old &quot;cult experts&quot; are out stirring the pot. About a month and a half ago a reader of mine passed on a request from some European blog that linked to me to have me contact a reader of theirs who was interested in &quot;occultists&quot; and paganism. That person turned out to be Linda Blood who authored the book The New Satanists back in the early 90s. After a terse (yet polite) exchange of emails where I implied her life&#039;s work amounted to being a laughing stock and she strongly suggested that I was ignorant of &quot;them&quot; we bid each other farewell. I was left with the impression that Blood, Ted Gunderson and the rest of the SRA ilk had congealed around the whole Prison Planet culture and were peddling the 9/11truth/NAU/NWO stuff for a good deal of the last decade. They seem to have quite the little following on both sides of the political spectrum; Blood on the right, Gunderson ran an anti-Bush site for awhile.

It&#039;s been largely ignored but I think the &quot;ritual experts&quot; have wormed their way into the fringes of a bunch of sub-cultures. I have even met a pagan who believed in S.R.A. My impression from my conversation with Blood was that they were preparing for another push. Maybe one of them got hired to do a workshop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Some rare agreement from me since you&#8217;re 100% right about this nonsense. Although I will point out that the idea that every person who does something we don&#8217;t like to be associated with is disturbed is a bit of a cop out on our part. I&#8217;ve &#8220;met&#8221; several people in my online travels that consider themselves pagans and sacrifice animals (and not just Heathens) and I know plenty of magicians who use blood in rituals, something that has made a comeback thanks to a book called Blood Magick which has been passed around the armchair occult community for the last couple of years.</p>
<p>Heck I threw a little cow blood around myself back in the day, though mine was purchased by the pint from a Spanish/Asian market in Jersey. Remember that Afro-carib magical practices were just as influenced by European occultism as anything else, and magical traditions develop in urban centers in interesting ways.</p>
<p>However the ASPCA though is just parroting New York&#8217;s animal rights movement’s racist attacks on Santeria. When I lived there I had a vegan tell me we should deport all the Cubans because they &#8220;tortured animals&#8221; for their religion. Meh.</p>
<p>In your last post on this you question whether the old &#8220;cult experts&#8221; are out stirring the pot. About a month and a half ago a reader of mine passed on a request from some European blog that linked to me to have me contact a reader of theirs who was interested in &#8220;occultists&#8221; and paganism. That person turned out to be Linda Blood who authored the book The New Satanists back in the early 90s. After a terse (yet polite) exchange of emails where I implied her life&#8217;s work amounted to being a laughing stock and she strongly suggested that I was ignorant of &#8220;them&#8221; we bid each other farewell. I was left with the impression that Blood, Ted Gunderson and the rest of the SRA ilk had congealed around the whole Prison Planet culture and were peddling the 9/11truth/NAU/NWO stuff for a good deal of the last decade. They seem to have quite the little following on both sides of the political spectrum; Blood on the right, Gunderson ran an anti-Bush site for awhile.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been largely ignored but I think the &#8220;ritual experts&#8221; have wormed their way into the fringes of a bunch of sub-cultures. I have even met a pagan who believed in S.R.A. My impression from my conversation with Blood was that they were preparing for another push. Maybe one of them got hired to do a workshop?</p>
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		<title>By: The Wild Hunt &#187; Update: Santeria? Satanism? Something Else?</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2009/12/santeria-satanist-something-else.html#comment-21167</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wild Hunt &#187; Update: Santeria? Satanism? Something Else?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] yesterday&#8217;s post, more details have emerged regarding a large assortment of dead animal skulls and ritual implements found at a Pennsylvania home by anima.... According to reports they found an altar consisting of &#8220;hundreds&#8221; of animal skulls, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] yesterday&#8217;s post, more details have emerged regarding a large assortment of dead animal skulls and ritual implements found at a Pennsylvania home by anima&#8230;. According to reports they found an altar consisting of &#8220;hundreds&#8221; of animal skulls, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A.C. Aldag</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2009/12/santeria-satanist-something-else.html#comment-21166</link>
		<dc:creator>A.C. Aldag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Santeros don&#039;t have pentacles or pentagrams as their symbol.

The authorities need to quit hectoring alternative religions and look for some mentally unstable individual, because serial murderers often abuse animals first, then move on to human victims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santeros don&#039;t have pentacles or pentagrams as their symbol.</p>
<p>The authorities need to quit hectoring alternative religions and look for some mentally unstable individual, because serial murderers often abuse animals first, then move on to human victims.</p>
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		<title>By: lonespark</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2009/12/santeria-satanist-something-else.html#comment-21165</link>
		<dc:creator>lonespark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly what I thought.  No indication whether this has been checked out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly what I thought.  No indication whether this has been checked out?</p>
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