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About St. Patrick and the Serpents

Today is St. Patrick’s Day, a yearly holiday celebrating Ireland’s favorite patron saint. While it’s a big event in Ireland (and used to be a very solemn occasion), in America it’s a green-dyed bacchanal where everyone is “Irish for a day” (let’s not even start on the horridly stupid “unofficial” St. Patrick’s Day celebrations on college campuses). For some modern Pagans (whether Irish or not), St. Patrick’s Day isn’t a day of celebrations, as they see Patrick, famously attributed with converting Ireland to Christianity, as committing something akin to cultural genocide.

“So, drink up to the memory of this culturally genocidal theocrat, and give a nod to your Pagan friends with the knowledge that, while we’re raising one as well, we’re all drinking to forget.”

Pagan author Isaac Bonewits calls the day “All Snakes Day”, and has penned songs calling for the return of the “snakes” that Patrick is famously attributed with driving out, since many claim the “snakes” are actually a metaphor for Pagans (Ireland hasn’t had real snakes in it since the last ice age).


“St. Patrick casting out the serpents”

“What St. Patrick did do was convert the druids and pagans who used the snake as a symbol in many of their worship ceremonies.”

The problem with most of this Pagan rage and sadness directed at Patrick for converting Ireland, is that it’s mostly untrue.

“The snakes he drove out of Ireland were not symbolic of druids, pagans, or goddess worshippers. They were, quite simply, snakes. The tale was lifted from the life story of St. Hilaire, who was said to have evicted the snakes in a section of France, as an explanation of why there are no native snakes in Ireland. That piece of plagiarism explicative text was added in the 10th century. Earliest versions of Patrick’s story don’t include it. They do, however, include direct claims of him besting druids in magical combat and argument, as well as having druids in his personal retinue. Catholic saints’ stories, by and large, do not truck in allegory. To cite a different reptile story, they really did mean to say that St. George killed a dragon. I have never seen anyone who’s bothered to study the way Irish saints’ lives were written down and embroidered take the snakes to be symbolic of anything. It is a neo-pagan invention to assign that story any degree of symbolism.”

Celtic Reconstructionist Brenda Daverin goes on to point out that Ireland was quite “pagan” for another century or so after Patrick’s death, and that Ireland’s conversion process generally wasn’t at the point of a sword, or completely successful. Just because it’s become the common folklore to equate snakes and pagans doesn’t make it true. So, since Patrick didn’t actually cast the literal or metaphorical snakes out of Ireland, I see no issue in wishing my Irish, Irish-descended, and Irish-loving readers a happy St. Patrick’s Day. Avoid the green beer, that stuff is just nasty.

39 responses so far

  • http://prophetmadman.blogspot.com Gothi Brian

    As far as I'm concerned, this holiday is Celtic Culture and Spirituality Day!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1851687786 Sarah Morningstar

    As an American of Irish descent, I'm dedicating my day to Eriu. And avoiding the green beer, Yuck!

  • lonespark

    Yes. All of Suffolk County has the day off. My father is a school counselor there and he was just gloating about it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/DanMiller DanMiller

    And drunks in the street drinking green beer. ;)

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Riverbend Riverbend

    I really *like* the "All Snakes Day" idea though, darn it!! :)

  • Windi

    I had to explain this to my husband a week or two ago, after he went on a rant about it when he saw the new stock of “Happy St. Patrick’s Day” greeting cards. My family’s more than a little Irish, and St. Paddy’s is the second favorite of most of them (Mardi Gras being #1), but, alas, no beer for me, green or otherwise. Don’t need to be getting the baby girl drunk before she’s even born.

  • Helen/Hawk

    OTOH, symbolism is found where history walks.

    And it seems to me that if it’s somehow all right to mush up Saint’s tales…….there’s nothing wrong w/ us finding symbols & signs where we find them.

    Just don’t call it literal history.

    If one day a year the subject of how a current majority faith has over-run indigenous religions that’s a good thing as far as this Pagan is concerned.

    Calling it All-Snakes Day brings that up.

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  • Souris

    They're meant to be taken literally.

  • lonespark

    St. Olaf?

    There're lots of better saints to dislike.

  • Eran Rathan

    Indeed!

    that being said, I take it as Irish Heritage Day.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Teaa Tea

    Does not compute.

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/youngsoulrebel Ruadhan

    Morrissey was right.

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/youngsoulrebel Ruadhan

    I find it rather solipsistic to assume that because one sees mythology as allegory then everybody will or should.

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  • http://writteninearth.blogspot.com/ writteninearth

    I love that "all snakes day'! :)

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Teaa Tea

    Oh my goodness. Yes, we have established this. What is your point?

  • http://www.robinartisson.com Robin Artisson

    Constantine supported religious freedom for all. Theodosius is the man you want to hate.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Teaa Tea

    Thanks Crystal!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/whateley23 whateley23

    Are you suggesting that we should emulate Christians, or are you actually agreeing with Lupa and not taking a sarcastic tone?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Bubba_C Bubba_C

    Congrats to both of you!!
    Blessings & good health to both of your little bundles of joy!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/whateley23 whateley23

    Fun-loving, perhaps, but not very well thought out.

  • Ananta Androscoggin

    The earliest of them were concerned mostly with "Jews" and "Gentiles" up until they were convinced to allow non-Jews into their new heresy.

  • Ananta Androscoggin

    I hadn't heard that one before . . . Gives a new perspective on the Louisiana Purchase from Napoleon.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crystal7431 Crystal7431

    Oh come on. It was just for fun. A joke doesn't have to be factually correct to be funny.

  • http://www.robinartisson.com Robin Artisson

    So I guess history's wrong about that whole Edict of Milan thing?

  • lonespark

    It's not the non-factualness, it's the anti-Irishness.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crystal7431 Crystal7431

    I'm Irish and thought it was funny. It was very apparent it was tongue-in-cheek. We can't always take ourselves so seriously.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/KhalilaRedBird KhalilaRedBird

    Yes, I do love Beltaine!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Apuleius Apuleius

    When I was in high school I don't recall ever participating in a well thought out protest.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crystal7431 Crystal7431

    Lol! It IS high school after all.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/sari0009 KarenAScofield

    I see neither anything close to 114 it says are here and no navigation for additional comments. And what happened to the IntenseDebate format?

    Am I witnessing a momentary glitch, regarding the absence of IntenseDebate format?

    I thought the saying All Snakes Day and the bring back the snakes song addressed the folklore and the very real problem that Christian theology really does say that it’s the one true right religion and Paganism really was, in effect, over time, driven into oblivion, pretty much.

    Perhaps some of today’s Christians and today’s society is more tolerant but this hasn’t always been the case?

    Still, I don’t think driving out the churches is the answer. If people choose to leave their churches they start dying out, they’ll do it for a myriad of reasons in a more natural manner, else it’s just more religious us vs. them war, as far as most people are concerned (and that’s something that matters).

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sari0009 KarenAScofield

    Fascinating…

  • Ananta Androscoggin

    The two do indeed seem a bit contradictory, don't they?

    "High School" and "Well Thought Out"

  • Ananta Androscoggin

    Just tell the bartender to mix you up a Black and Tan.

  • http://twitter.com/thelettuceman @thelettuceman

    Or you can have some consideration for history and NOT be a jerk about the plight of people who can still remember when the Troubles were active?

  • Ananta Androscoggin

    Anything to denigrate outsiders, eh?

  • MissM

    sorry church fathers are not medieval… but you get my point…

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