What’s the Most Offensive Thing About Sheen’s Meltdown?

Here’s something I thought I’d never have to confront at The Wild Hunt, writing about the high-profile mental meltdown of a famous television and film actor. Yet, here we are. Charlie “Tiger Blood” Sheen is having his Britney moment, and the gossip bloggers, mainstream press, artists, and various musicians are having field day. But like all good/bad things in the press, there are diminishing returns, people get bored of the cries for attention, and the ever-hungry celebrity press must constantly look for new angles to keep their latest hot mess story suitably warm until the next controversy explodes. Enter the Warlock. Celebrity gossip super-site TMZ has zeroed in on Salem’s Witchy impresario Christian Day, who has been on a recent kick to reclaim the term “Warlock”, and is offended by Sheen’s cavalier usage of the term in his semi-coherent ramblings.

Salem’s Coven of the Raven Moon in Salem, Massachusetts told us he’s “fuming” over the statement because it’s a “blatant offense against our ways.” The warlock — named Christian Day  tells us he plans to take action against the actor … not legal action — but magical action.  Day explains, “I am going to magically bind Mr. Sheen, not to harm him, but to simply prevent him from using this word in such a negative manner in the future.”

As goes TMZ, so goes the Boston Herald, the Daily Telegraph (in Australia), and host of smaller blogs and news outlets. Star Foster at Patheos.com immediately recognizes why Day might pick this moment to be offended, even if it leaves a bad taste in the mouths of other Pagans.

“So why is Christian upset? Because his going to TMZ in a state of indignation resembles the type of publicity stunts that have caused many of us to distance ourselves from folks like Kevin Carlyon. His story in TMZ does our community no good. We derive no benefit from it. This story hurts the Pagan community while increasing Christian’s flash and pizazz. Maybe Christian wants to be Occult Advisor to the Stars! Yet he’s effectively alienated a large number of folks who would have supported him prior to this shenanigan.”

But while Star invokes the wearer of the red bathrobe, Day’s particular media pedigree is far closer to (his) home. Salem’s own Laurie Cabot, who once engaged in many of the media-grabbing activities that Day now does. Now that Laurie is semi-retired, it seems natural that someone would choose to fill that void. I have little doubt that Christian is having the time of his life.

However, if we’re really looking for something to be offended by in Charlie Sheen’s recent behavior, should it really be him nattering on about being a “Vatican assassin warlock”, or is it something that has (literally) been paraded right in front of our eyes for weeks now? Jo Piazza at PopEater offers an op-ed about Sheen’s “goddesses”, the two young women who now share the star’s house and bed.

“Watch any of Sheen’s live interviews in his posh Hollywood estate and you will see one of his two goddesses, Natty, a bikini model, and Rach (also known as Bree, her porn name) [...] Sheen refers to these ladies as his goddesses, often with a sly smirk. [...] On ‘The Howard Stern Show’ Tuesday morning, Sheen revealed the sleeping arrangement he has worked out with the goddesses, whereby they each sleep in their own beds in the same room. When he is ready to retire, Charlie enters the room like a monarch and chooses between the two. We wonder which one sighs in relief. Particularly insulting in this entire scenario is the use of the term goddess, a typically sacred title used to refer to a woman who is treated with special reverence.”

Piazza also quotes Cooper Lawrence, author of ‘Cult of Celebrity’, who notes that Sheen treats women like interchangeable sexual objects, while calling them “goddesses”, inverting  “a term that women use to embrace power.” If we Pagans really want to be upset at Charlie Sheen, if we feel some great urging to jump into the celebrity news grinder, I’d much rather it be over his degradation of that word than of “warlock.” For any family of faiths that see the divine as feminine, a man who has spent years violently abusing women should not be seen as a joke, or an opportunity to gain the spotlight. We should instead point out that these are the fruits of substance abuse mixed with unchained patriarchal power. That, in my mind, is the most offensive thing about Sheen’s meltdown.

  • Star Foster

    Well said, Jason. Some folks have commented that he might become a public face for the polyamoury community but that would be a tragedy.

  • Clare Slaney

    What Star said. Thanks too for noting that he's been beating women up for some time but that's not important. Insulting his boss – well, that's another matter.

    • Leea

      The LA Times actually had an article about this very issue-it was ok, apparently to be arrested for domestic violence, violence against women, drug abuse, the whole Charlie circus-and not have his livelihood affected…but insult the boss and THEN he was fired. I hope this will be a "wake up call" for all of those Hollywood Partier types-that behavior DOES matter…

  • Lillitu Shahar Kunning

    Agreed, Jason. Well said.

  • http://military.pagannewswirecollective.com Lori Dake

    What gets me more than anything is *why* the whole Charlie Sheen thing is even news. Everyone knows he's a skirt chaser and hack actor who's paid way more than he's worth. Don't we have some important stuff that needs reporting, or is real news too boring for the average American?

    Oh, and – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLkZTJczirU – just because I can, and because I love inciting earworms >:)

  • http://www.thehighwayhermit.com highway_hermit

    I sometimes wonder about the competency of journalists who scoop up every piece of craziness that walks through their door. I mean, is there no difference between the tabloids (where this is expected) and the mainstream press where journalistic integrity is supposed to be a prerequisite to the job? Do mainstream journalists ever stop to think about the consequences of giving a national-level loudspeaker to every crank with a story?

  • Christine McClure

    thank you. my reaction has been running along the same lines.

  • http://www.facebook.com/EdAHubbard Ed Hubbard

    Very well said, and slowly people realize that not everyone who claims to be involved in the community cares a damn bit about it. This is one of those cases.

    • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

      Obsessed with me much, Ed?

      What is the community anyway? And who represents it. Paganism is such a broad and diverse group and, many of them don't like the word Warlock to begin with. Your own Reverend Don Lewis posted a video carrying on about the old chestnut that a warlock betrayed WItches when there's simply no source material suggesting this at all. I've done my research on the word.

      Oh, and I'm still part of all those organizations you tried to get me thrown out of last month. Sorry. :)

      • Bookhousegal

        Accrding precise quantities of due respect indicated, Christian, has it ever occured to you that Charlie Sheen drunk off his gourd at the Motel 6 has more say about what the word 'Warlock' means than you do, *particularly* when you've yet to make the case for your definition to the Pagan community?

        Why you decided to stick your name or the Pagan community's to this, I dunno, but 'There's no such thing as bad publicity' I hate to tell you, only applies to *some,* dig?

        • Bookhousegal

          Accordingly, btw, I hate to mention it, but this is just about *exactly* how the word 'warlock' got unpopular twenty years ago. Just without 'celebrity endorsements,' if you know what I'm saying.

          • cigfran

            The only thing that the word "warlock" means to me is Julian Sands in a black outfit.

            Which would be a positive, for me.

          • http://vermillionrush.wordpress.com Vermillion

            Someone else has seen that film!! I always get blank stares when I talk about it, folks always think I mean Boxing Helena :/

    • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

      Oh, and one more thing. You were responsible for my first real "Sally Field moment" here in Salem, when I realized just how much the city leaders and other Witches like me, in spite of whatever flaws you might point out in my personality. And this is because they know that I care about Salem. And you keep talking about "our community" but community isn't just whatever people you can attract that act, look, or think like you. Community are the people you participate with in your everyday life whether it be business leaders, or Witch leaders, like Lorelei, Lori Bruno, and Laurie Cabot, all of whom I had a wonderful meeting with today. So, the way I see it, I AM part of a community, and that community is Salem. I really had high hopes for your participation in that community. You let me down … tremendously. The Pagan community, whatever that actually is, can have you. :)

      • Bookhousegal

        Dude, you're totally allowed to have personality flaws. I promise.

        But if you think grandstanding about semantics with Entertainment Tonight anywhere *near* mention of Charlie Sheen is serving the Pagan community…

        Well.

        Ground and center a moment.

        I seem to recall you saying a few things about me or who you think I am, something to do with microphones?

        Problem is, a lot of this ain't about me and it ain't about you. Microphones, of course, would seem to have a life of their own, wouldn't they?

        What's good for our people, here, Christian?

        Expecting it to come out right on TMZ or something?

        If you care for Pagan people, watch what happens here. It may even involve being quiet a while, but *this is gossip stuff.*

        If Charlie Sheen wants either your help or mine, we can both shut up about it and help.

        But it's not about this, right?

        You just associated your definition of 'warlock' with Charlie Sheen's bad behavior.

        It's out there.

        What now, Christian.

        What now?

  • Jody Mena

    You hit the nail on the head, I think. The warlock comment was sensationalistic, and got a sensational response, so people latch on to it; not only that, but many of the articles I've read on the subject have turned all the sensationalism into word play and cheap one-liners, proving once again that current mainstream society always classifies witchcraft and paganism either antisocial evil or as a joke. However, the issue you illuminate is much more subtle and insidious, using the age old mechanism of objectifying the feminine through sex; the patriarchal mindset is so fundmentally ingrained in our society, that few would even consider it anything more than a play on words. But the very fact that it is a coloquialism displays the underlying disorder in society's view of the feminine. You really illuminated it perfectly here. Thanks for the wake-up call on this!

  • Carol Maltby

    Maybe some Christians will use prayer to neutralize Christian Day's use of their religion's name, and everything will get evened out on the astral plane and in the gossip magazines.

    • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

      I was born with that name! LOL

    • Bookhousegal

      Well, while trading maniacal artillery barrages may mathematically-speaking tend 'level the playing field,' it's a poor metaphor for *astral* anything, except for it makes the news for a brief time, and doesn't do the turf or trees any service. :)

      Careful what you let em name you, though. :)

  • Kathy Nance

    I so agree with you, Jason. I have also been reflecting on what it says about the position of women in America, and in the entertainment industry, that Sheen could get away with spousal abuse, partner abuse, and general hardcore sexism, and just be a lovable “bad boy.” But say a bad word against his male boss, and he’s out on his coked-up ass.

    In addition to being a Pagan and a feminist, I am polyamorous. The relationship Sheen has with his “goddesses” does not resemble any poly relationship with which I am familiar. It’s just a step or two removed, if that far, from the situations of those sad teen-aged girls forced to become wives 10 or 20 of men twice their ages. Or that of a sultan, or Chinese emperor, and his concubines.

    Sad all around.

  • Ray

    What ever happend to… to will, to know, to dare, to KEEP SILENT???

    • Bookhousegal

      It didn't get publicity. :)

    • Veracity

      Yeah, what Ray said.

  • Baruch Dreamstalker

    "Vatican assassin warlock" — Dan Brown, call your office…

    I doubt Sheen is even aware there's a spiritual community that attaches liturgical and religious meaning to the word "goddess." He probably uses it as a synonym for "the best that femininity gets," which for him means a bikini model and a porn star.

    Sheen also refers to his nightly selection of one of them as "the pick of the litter," which insults my cat.

    Baruch :-{)}
    Tasha =^.^=

    • Bookhousegal

      I think what Martin Sheen isn't aware of is that he's a better actor than he's told: the only problem is he's usually poorly-written. I think people 'hate his acting' cause they don't want to admit that a lot of people out there really are of pretty limited affect, and that doesn't fit the 'script' people want to see.

      I think people don't like him cause they *recognize* him as something they don't like in themselves.

      I think his 'Hollywood crazy' is his way of trying to fit into *something* consistent with Hollywood. Even if for his part it's the ritual scapegoat of Hollywood, too.

      I see no reason for Pagans to play into that.

      He wants 'Goddess,' let's *give* him some. If he wants 'Warlock,' well, you know, *snort.* I think even Christian Day would say that leading with an attention-neediness spasm is no way to get *that,* right?

      (Actually, Christian, the offer of healing was a good impulse, except you simultaneously threw the gossip press bloody meat about the word. This is not a tiger you can ride, cause it's not a real tiger. Being Hollywood, it's only the more embarrassing when the skin comes off in your hands. :) )

      • Jane

        Charlie, you mean? Martin is his father. I think this was just a slip of the fingers, though… :-)

  • fyreflye

    Feminists have every reason to be upset with Sheen’s behavior, but it’s hard to imagine than anyone but a sexist asshole wouldn’t agree with them. As for his use of “goddess,” since he obviously doesn’t know what that word (usually capitalized) means to some, it’s pointless to obsess about it. As for the “warlock” business, it’s way past time we stopped taking seriously anything from Salem’s professional “witches.” Not that Jason was wrong to mention it, just that it shouldn’t be dignified with the kind of extended commentary it’s getting. Christian Day is merely the Sarah Palin of paganism.
    I don’t suppose anyone disagrees :)

  • http://SalemWitchWiles.blogspot.com Tom the Tour Guide

    " Salem "Warlock" Uses Charlie Sheen Meme for Free Publicity

    Sheen's use of the word "warlock" resulted in some great jokes, but also an opportunity. As mentioned in a previous blog entry, local witch Christian Day has a habit of using controversy for publicity. How do you cause controversy? Through provocation or causing an argument – otherwise known as trolling…… "

    More at: salemwitchwiles.blogspot.com

  • Dennis Nock

    Ewell, i'd like to add my 2 cents into this mess . Charlie Sheens behavior is abhorant , and generaly insulting to women .also his use of terms the have meaning to those of us in the pagan community , is he that arrogant or just plain ignorant , probablly a bit of both . and why would anyone want to reclaim a word that is of dubious definition at best . the word warlock , means oath breaker , tis a very bad person or fighting words to be called a worlock . bewitched and the movie bell , book and candle popularised that term to be a male witch quite incorrectly . with even minimal rresearch one can find the true meaning of the word . seems to me mr. day is just a publisity hound , so it goes Kilm

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vanessa-Crosby/506500635 Vanessa Crosby

      It's not uncommon for minority groups to try to reclaim and redefine terms that have been used to marginalize them in the past. One need only look at black and gay communities to see it in action. Day's attempt to reclaim the term warlock is likely no different, although the likelihood of success is a different matter altogether.

    • Aletta

      The word "witch" used to be synonymous with a person who uses malefic magic, and in some countries, it still is. It's only very recently that people started running around claiming to the word "witch" for themselves in a wholly positive and New Age way, to possibly mistakenly define themselves as Wiccans and call witchcraft a religion. Therefore, "witch" is really not much of a better term for Wiccans to call themselves than "warlock" is. (Personally, I find the term "warlock" silly and most "witches" aren't actually witches.) Most terms that people could ever call people who use magic are similarly used to describe someone untrustworthy, dangerous, or evil.

  • Gareth Thomas

    Given the word "warlock" has an etymology from Old English meaning "Oath Breaker", I don't see what the fuss is. There are plenty of terms for male workers of spiritual energy in the Indo-European Languages, so why get upset if some drug addled idiot uses one meaning Oathbreaker (his exes certainly would agree ;) )

  • whatsername

    Hell yes. Great post.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kkampmiller Kat Kampmiller

    I always thought Christian Day was just a joke. Not that I'm one to judge too much about "freaky looking people", but jeeze. Just look at him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

    My concern was not with the term "vatican assassin warlock," but rather with Sheen's statement on the Today show that his boss "picked a fight with a warlock," as if this is some kind of battle cry and not the beautiful word that it is. The earliest use of Warlock, decades before it is referenced in the Oxford English Dictionary as first appearing (in 1023 CE, already in Christianization), the word meant spirit summoning song to the vikings. The church took it and made it oathbreaker … to the church, devil, and deceiver, because such necromancies were forbidden by the bible.

    If Charlie Sheen had said, "he picked a fight with a Witch," the pagan boards would be up in arms and those keyboard warriors would be lauding whoever spoke against it.

    Magical scholarship has been increasing over the past two decades, including a wonderful new book just out this year called Witchcraft and Magic in the Nordic Middle Ages by Stephen A. Mitchell. It's fantastic and tells the story of the Warlock Song in the saga of Erik the Red in Greenland. Wonderful stuff.

    People love to be offended by any Pagan speaking out. Frankly, there were whole websites dedicated to Fiona Horne's destruction and I don't think I've ever meet a sweeter, nicer, smarter, and more multi-talented person in my life. It just goes to show that anyone in the limelight is going to be attacked by our "community." But who owns this anyway? I call myself a Warlock, in part, because I do see myself as taking on a specific role, not one that only I have mind you, but something that fits the word.

    I have a great many friends in the Pagan community. The review blurbs of my forthcoming book read like a who's who in modern Paganism. Weiser is publishing me. Raven Grimassi is writing the forward, but then the "community" loves to attack him too, just like they've done Silver Ravenwolf and others. But here's where I'm different. While I respect my friends throughout the community, I am not their property or any of yours. I will determine what I think is right in my life, thank you, and respect your right to disagree, but one thing's for sure, crass criticism is hardly going to make me stop. Only those who extend a hand of friendship in my life will ever have an influence in it, certainly not those who come at me with rudeness.

    Blessings,

    Christian

  • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

    And p.s.

    That people lump me in with the likes of Fiona Horne and Laurie Cabot is a great complement. I sat with Laurie, Lori Bruno, and Lorelei for a wonderful conversation among magical people who care about the growth and success of Salem and it's multifaceted WItch community.

    And, also for the record, SALEM is my community first and foremost. This is where I live. It is where I contribute not only to the magical community, but I work with all of the leaders of the tourism community as well and was recently re-elected to the Board of Directors of our official tourism organization, where I work with business leaders across the city, the only public Witch on that board. I generally do not even use the word Pagan, with rare exceptions, but I suppose I consider myself part of that broader scope. Still, this idea that each of us owes something to some central Pagan agenda is odd to me because I do not think one truly exists.

  • fyreflye

    Wow! Four self promoting posts in a row! Even Palin knows enough to confine herself to 140 character Twitter tweets.

    • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

      You've got your opinion, babe, and I've got mine. :)

      • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

        Whoa, "babe"? You're really asking for a smackdown, dude. HaHaHaHa

      • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

        By the way, that's an interesting take on the word Warlock, if true. I didn't know that, I'd always assumed it was a Christian slur.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

    Here's my fifth post. ;)

    One of the countless radio shows I've done in the past two days. It sums up my thoughts quite on the subject quite well.
    http://www.newstalk1010.com/shows/showgram/blogen…

    I think Fiona Horne proved that no matter how brilliant, how magical, how multi-talented, and how amazing someone in this so-called "community" is (and she is), the "community" will rip them apart. It doesn't phase me. I put my views out there and those who disagree have the same opportunity to put theirs out there in contrast. Oh, you mean they don't? Hmmmmm. Well, it is what it is. :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/kkampmiller Kat Kampmiller

      Fiona Horne might be the nicest person in the world, but most of us judge her for her attention whoring and TERRIBLE, fluffy books reeking of awful scholarship, and the fact that she seems to use witchcraft as just a gimmick to make money. Talented? No more than a lot of other very nice and deserving people. Should we rip on her for writing shitty books for the Barnes and Noble teenager crowd? Yes. Should we rip on you and Laurie Cabot for looking like retarded stereotypes? Of course. Stop whining about people not "appreciating your or Fiona's contributions" when a lot of us don't want them, thanks.

    • Aletta

      Were you serious when you said that you plan to bind Sheen to keep him from using the word "warlock"? I don't know who you are and outside of this, have never heard of you, but if you were serious how can you expect anyone to think you're anything but someone to laugh at? For one thing, there are a million better reasons to bind someone than them using a word you don't like. If you really find fault with him enough to bind him, why aren't you threatening to bind him for an actual crime? Offending your overly delicate sensibilities is not a punishable offense. If you want someone to bind, look around you – there are plenty of rapists, murderers, child abusers, and so on for you to take your pick from. For another thing, if you truly have as much ability as you seem to think you do, you wouldn't need to brag about a binding before it even takes place. If you really have any ability with magic, don't you think you should respect yourself enough not to look like a fool? Don't you think there are better uses of your energy than acting just as imbalanced as the man you're threatening magical action against? There's a saying, and one part of that saying is "to keep silent". If you open your mouth and brag about what you plan to do, magically speaking, before you even begin you're screwing with the chances of it even working and only screaming for attention like a 13 year old girl. Please don't take this as me "tearing you apart" because I don't care one way or the other about you.

  • Chris Boydston-Taub

    I'm sure Christian means well but I would ask him to follow the examples of folks like Selena Fox – at least when it comes to dealing with the press. The last few articles I read featuring quotes by Fox were tactful, despite their connection to things like the O'Donnell "I'm not a witch." campaign ad. We all have the choice to be laughed at or taken seriously. We're fools if we don't realize the difference between the Washington Post and the National Enquirer – or TMZ and National Public Radio.

    I remember two programs in the early days featuring practicing witches and how they were treated by the hosts. Laurie Cabot appeared on Oprah many years ago. Despite how anybody feels about Cabot, Oprah treated her very well – even when Cabot was challenged by the other members of the panel (I think one was a shrink and the other was a born-again Christian exorcist). The other program was Ricki Lake. She had a panel of regular folks on who claimed to be witches and spellcasters., It included a (real) practicing Wiccan and priestess of a local group in whatever home state she lived. She posted on an email list that the show's producers wanted her to wear a black hooded cloak and emphasize how she did what Ricki would call on camera, "spells n' stuff". The other panelists wore the cloak, she opted to talk about her practice in an educated light. She got a lot of funny looks and very little respect on the show.

    So there you go. We're damn fools if we don't know the difference between real journalism and junk journalism. If you opt for the latter, then you get what you deserve IMHO.

    • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

      You're not seeing me complain. LOL

      • http://www.thehighwayhermit.com highway_hermit

        I won't pretend to have any experience handling national-level media (because I don't), but I think the statement Chris made above is worth repeating from a different perspective if only because it's important. There are reporters, and then there are sensationalists. From a different perspective, there are professionals, and there are entertainers. Years ago I worked for my karate instructor in Raleigh, North Carolina. He had an excellent marketing program, but he had little appreciation for his instructors' dignity.

        For example, one of the marketing tools he required us to do was to host birthday parties at the karate studio. We'd get the birthday boy (or girl), his or her guests, all the kids' parents, pop and pizza, and some confetti and have a little party in the studio. The birthday parties were usually a big hit – I mean, what parent and what kid wouldn't want to have fun hitting stuff, eating pizza, and yelling like a crazy person? The problem with that scenario is that when the karate instructor hosts a party he stops being a professional and turns into a clown. The parents expect me not to be a karate instructor who promotes self-discipline and how to avoid being a victim, but to be a dancing clown full of laughs, cheap humor, and forgettable antics. That's not the sort of person I wanted to be and that's what ultimately led me away from him.

        Moving closer to the occult, it's the same way as a card reader: there are readers, and then there are entertainers. I consider card reading to be a form of pastoral counseling and I take it very seriously, but I learned very quickly that when my wife and I get calls to come out and read cards at a party that's not what people are looking for. I've been to events where the guests look down their noses at us, have a fun time laughing at what we read in the cards, argue about the message, demand that we guess their Sun-sign, and generally see us as little more than paid entertainers.

        That's how I see the buzz of activity around what Chris wrote about practitioners appearing on Oprah, Ricki Lake and other shows, and how I see your appearance on TMZ and subsequent re-appearances in other outlets: they don't acknowledge you as a professional in your field and regardless of whatever you've written or done for the community you've been reduced in the popular media spotlight to little more than a strange face, a dramatic outfit, and a sensational message suitable for quick, easy digestion by many people who largely have no interest in learning more about your message and who are quite likely to think you represent all of us – even those of us like myself with no significant ties to the Wiccan, Pagan, occult, or witchcraft communities. The saying goes that there's no such thing as bad publicity, but I often wonder how true that adage is anymore.

        • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

          When the Michael Jackson controversy happened, I thought, finally, there's bad publicity. But then he died and, well, we all saw what happened. Of course, I don't wanna die for that. ;-D

          I appreciate other views on this, but I will retain the right to listen and form my own opinion.

          • Chris Boydston-Taub

            Nobody's saying you can't do that, Christian – we'd just rather see public figures in the Pagan/Magical communities appear on worthwhile programs and other media outlets. I mean the least you could do is appear on Ghost Hunters instead of Ghost Adventures. I've seen how witches are perceived on GA in the past and it's not very flattering.

          • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

            I loved doing Ghost Adventures. I don't think they really respected the dead much so I think, in a way, I was meant to go on there. I did things to those guys that were only barely filmed. You will see some changes in them before long. They underestimate the power of the mighty dead and my being on that show was as much an opportunity to school them as it was an opportunity to promote Salem and Witchcraft.

  • http://www.uraniaswell.com Diotima Mantineia

    Thank you, Jason, for pointing out what's really important, yet again.

  • Cathryn Bauer

    I don't think Christian Day or anyone else should be dignifying Confucius Sheen with any attention, energy, or comment. I think it's only feeding what in simpler times would have been called a demon. I doubt Sheen has any conscious intention of insulting Paganism or Pagans; likely, he doesn't even know we exist, or didn't until Day piped up. I think at this point in Sheen's life, his need for attention is so all-absorbing that he wouldn't be focused enough to land a true insult . I wish they'd both just go away.

  • Artor

    That Day is getting his panties in a twist over word salad from the mouth of a madman shows that Day is nothing but a publicity hound himself. If he wants to claim the name oathbreaker for himself, more power to him. He can have it as far as I'm concerned. "RE-" claim? I don't think so. There are a number of posts above that explain the origin of the word, and that crap about it originally referring to some Norse necromancy is a load of crap. The church didn't change it's meaning; the meaning is right there: wor-lock is word-lack. A warlock has no word to give. He is an oathbreaker who is not to be trusted. Is that really a name Day wants to defend?

  • Leea

    You know, I've never been a great fan of yours, mostly because you seem overly-dramatic to me. That said, I can't deny you have done HEAPS for the Salem community, which I think helps the entire Pagan community. I like the sound of Warlock, if we can get past the Oathbreaker meaning. I also like "Sorcerer" and "Sorceress", which have always seemed to me appropriate for those who routinely use High Ritual and lots of Tools…anyway, good luck Christian..

    • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

      I appreciate the frank honesty, Leea. It is what it is. We all have our different perspectives. People will either agree with them wholeheartedly, sort of, or not at all, but, at the end of the day, if were all meant to think and be the same, we wouldn't have been born in separate bodies.

      Oh, and I LOVE the word Sorcerer and I ADORE Oberon Zell for bringing Wizard back! :-D

  • Sharon Knight

    For me the most offensive thing is definitely the "Goddesses". But I have to point out, unless those women are being held against their will, which it doesn't seem that they are, then they have a huge amount of responsibility for this situation. As long as there are women so insecure that they think they need to put up with this type os situation just to have something remotely resembling an interesting life, there will be those willing to exploit them.

  • Bookhousegal

    Dude, whether or not you claim have scholarly backup, our say-so *doesn't actually mean you represent here just cause Charlie Sheen said the world.*

    You may wel make a case that New England Pagans *shouldn't* use 'Warlock' to mean 'oathbreaker,' but the fact is, *New England Pagans *do.* And you went and jumped on the gossip columns claiming otherwise cause Charlie Sheen of all people said so.*

    What in the Mother's names is *that?*

    And dissing Laurie Cabot doesn't help our case, either, there. I mean, really, she's been *wrong* about a lot of things, and Gods know overstepped her municipal role a lot of times, but you *can't* call her headblind. She was publishing books (admittedly not *good* ones ) before I believed there was any kind of serious Paganism out there.

    Shiny when ou meet her, though or at least I hope she still is.

    So be it. What was she *supposed* to know, any more than *I* was, or *you* were?

    I do know that trying to bottle Salem has been making people crazy a long time.

    So it is, so *what?*

    Do you think your arguments make you sound any less *crazy,,* Christian?* You're arguing with Charlie Sheen about a definition of 'Warlock' that even new England *Pagans* find a bit of a reversal.

    Who cares if you have a case to make, if you hit any streets in the region and say 'I'm a warlock,' yes most Pagans will figure you for a poser. Sorry. Right or wrong, that's the deal.. Now you want to associate it with Charlie Sheen's delusion of Vatican warlocks?

    Hello?

  • Bookhousegal

    And I'll reiterate here… Laurie Cabot may be *wrong* about a lot, but she ain't headblind.

    She was being our ditzy aunt when we were figuring out our Pound Puppies, so cut her some slack, there.

    She's allowed. Like *you're* allowed.

    With *your* 'kooky' definitions and versions of town politics.

    Just. The same.

    Don't let' it go to your head, know, and arguing with Charlie Sheen isn't a good sign, you know. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/christianday Christian Day

    You'll live, LOL

  • Bess

    I totally agree. Sheen is very ill and as such should not be paraded in front of us as entertainment. He needs help and this will not happen until he admits that he needs help. All religion aside, medically, he will either recover or he won't.
    An addict either lives or dies, there is no in between.

  • http://www.wolfsongstudios.net Pa_Hsia

    “What’s the Most Offensive Thing About Sheen’s Meltdown?”

    That it gets press coverage.

    A person’s mental health issues ceased to be acceptable entertainment about the time they closed New Bethlehem mental asylum to visitors.

  • Zelda13

    What saddens me most of all. It that folks are eating up ALL this press Mr. Sheen is getting. It's mindless crap. It just proves there are people out in the world with such small minds (I'm speaking of journalist too) that think this is news worthy. No wonder other countries laugh at us. This is the BS we report on the evening news!

    Here is the other thing. If people in the pagan community are getting all hot and bothered with Christian Day's press about finding Charlie Sheens rant offensive. siting it is bad for the pagan community that someone like Mr. Day is giving other Witches and even Pagans a bad name. Well get out there then! Quit belly aching about how Media hungry Pagans/ Witches are making you look bad.
    Get your mugs onto mainstream media and the press and kick those stereotypes to the curb.

  • http://www.facebook.com/elissa.carey Elissa Rich

    Here's another perspective on the Sheen debacle: I don't think he's capable of making rational decisions anymore. Watching this video he's got on UStream made me see just how far gone he is. At least one person called it hilarious, but I found it more saddening than anything else.
    http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13167959

  • Doreen

    I think this whole Sheen "incident' is nonsense. His use of the term "warlock" (which, as a male witch, isn't something I would EVER use for myself) has nothing to do with Paganism at all, any more than the comments about "Vatican assassin" had to do with the Pope or hired killers. It's just the rantings of a disturbed weirdo, and the public tantrums and photo-ops posing as "rituals" have done nothing but bring scorn and derision down upon all of our heads. I'm now having to explain to friends that, no, I'm not offended by Sheen and no, I'm not a "warlock" (which as we all know means "oathbreaker." Yes, it can mean "male witch" in Scotland, but it's a term of abuse and evil…..nothing worth "reclaiming" there) and no, I'm not going to start running around in black capes

    There might not be one unified Pagan agenda, but when one deliberately chases the spotlight and goes on TV making statements that are controversial, it DOES affect us all. I understand why the media always seeks out the extreme, over-the-top caricatures, but I wish they wouldn't. This whole non-issue should have been handled with restraint and dignity, instead of being turned into a lurid and degrading spectacle in a quest for 15 minutes of fame.