What a whiner

Justin Griffith posted a blog the other day that caught my eye.  He talks about Rev. Bryan Griem and his recent gripes on atheism in the military.  While the military is Justin and Chris Rodda‘s domain, Griem touched on something that compelled me to take him to task.

Look, you just read the stats: “Researchers have found that spiritual people have decreased odds of attempting suicide, and that spiritual fitness has a positive impact on quality of life, on coping and on mental health.” Atheists be damned. They will be. So I really don’t care what they think regarding these tests. I’m tired of having their constant nagging, their constant opposition against God — their evil. They contribute nothing positive in the long run.Their very name, “a” theist, means they are “against,” with a big “no” regarding America’s “creator” and “Nature’s God” (the one mentioned in our Declaration of Independence).

As ignorant as it is callous.

Look, you just read the stats: “Researchers have found that spiritual people have decreased odds of attempting suicide, and that spiritual fitness has a positive impact on quality of life, on coping and on mental health.”

Yes, just like gay teens have higher suicide rates.  In Griem’s eyes the fact that atheists are less comfortable in society is not because of the atmosphere of loathing and immense social penalties for being out of the closet (such as loss of job, ostracism from family, or any of the number of hassles people like Jessica Ahlquist receive), but just that they don’t believe in god.

It is not hard to see why the comfort of living in the majority makes life easier.  Rather than trying to make life easier for minorities Griem would like to blame them for the misery he is all too eager to help create.  Griem’s solution is not the sympathetic one.  He thinks the minority should join the Christians, not that the Christians should stop making their lives miserable.

And to think, he calls atheists “evil.”

Atheists be damned. They will be.

Some people are so bereft of compassion they can smile as they dance on corpses.  Griem has managed to become so demented he can rejoice in people suffering for eternity.

Yes, this is the guy who thinks atheists are evil.  His lack of self awareness to such an extreme degree would be impressive if it weren’t so depressing.

So I really don’t care what they think regarding these tests.

He declares that he doesn’t care what those who don’t think like him have to say.  I wonder if he also dislikes atheists for being close-minded….

I’m tired of having their constant nagging…

Yes, people telling you you’re wrong can be so annoying.  Better get agitated with them rather than examining your own beliefs.

And FSM-knows that atheists aren’t annoyed with Christians nagging us, knocking on our doors to evangelize, telling us we’re responsible for the downfall of America, trying to dictate our sex lives, etc.  But who cares if nagging gives atheists the red ass – we’re not Christian, right?

…their constant opposition against God — their evil.

Nag, nag, nag.

God’s not around for us to oppose.  The guy just can’t be bothered to show himself.  What’s left is for us to oppose regular ol’ people who think they know what god wants and who erroneously think they’ve got a good reason to believe god exists at all.

And what is our evil?  Do tell.  Do we demand you guys defend your position with evidence?  Do we have sex at the wrong times and in the wrong ways?  Do we think the gays deserve equal rights?  Fill me in, Bryan.

Or do we create an environment of hostility toward a minority and then blame the minority for being less happy?  Do we rejoice in the suffering of others in the same breath we call them evil?  Do we insist that we’ll not listen to believers on matters that concern them?  No sir, that is the Christian in the room.

They contribute nothing positive in the long run.

They contribute nothing positive?  That’s a pile of wrong you could use to build a bridge to the moon.

http://youtu.be/NULUg1twvXo

Griem’s not done…

Their very name, “a” theist, means they are “against,” with a big “no” regarding America’s “creator” and “Nature’s God” (the one mentioned in our Declaration of Independence).

We certainly don’t think that god exists.  Feel free to offer up a reason we should instead of griping about how awful we are.

Evidence or GTFO.

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • http://florilegia.wordpress.com Ibis3, denizen of a spiteful ghetto

    Only one woman in that video. Marie Curie. Is it really so hard?

  • christophburschka

    Griem is something which I guess using his etymology means “against holes”.

  • John Morales

    JAMA study: Religious Coping and Use of Intensive Life-Prolonging Care Near Death in Patients With Advanced Cancer.

    Conclusions
    Positive religious coping in patients with advanced cancer is associated with receipt of intensive life-prolonging medical care near death. Further research is needed to determine the mechanisms for this association.

  • Brownian

    Someone claiming to be him showed up on Pharyngula (Ctrl-F “pastor says”).

    He’s not as dumb as he sounds in the above. He’s dumber, more privileged, and more oblivious.

    Give ‘im all the hell you can, because he’s a whiny, snivelling coward.

  • John Morales

    Also, the English prefix a- does not mean what he thinks it means.

    • F

      No, no it does not.

      But then, he thinks god “created America”.

  • frankb

    Conclusions
    Positive religious coping in patients with advanced cancer is associated with receipt of intensive life-prolonging medical care near death. Further research is needed to determine the mechanisms for this association

    Are they serious? All they need is to record the conversation of the relatives around and with the patient. Not being versed in reality the patient and family will hope for a miracle at the last minute and so will hold out to the very end. There!! Save you some research money.

  • NotAProphet

    @F #5.1

    Yeah, what is it he thinks is so wrong with Merica that god created his country specifically to oppose it? ;)

  • NotAProphet

    Actually, his claim that “god created America” bears further examination. He may claim that god created everything (in his opinion), and that’s all he meant by it, but if this is the case then it’s an odd choice of words to specify only America.

    Perhaps he meant the American supercontinent, which was actually formed by the collision of the North American craton with South America.

    Realistically he probably meant the USA, forged by blood spilt in a conflict between English settlers of North America and their motherland. Incidentally the phrase “god’s own country” was historically used to describe the picturesque southern counties of England.

    It’s quite clear that, in the majority of possible meanings, the mechanism of formation is well understood and does not require god for its explanation. It’s another assertion without evidence by Pastor Brain Grime.

    Creationists should stick to attributing things without a consensus on their mechanism of formation to the machinations of their deranged watchmaker; otherwise we just get more reasons to laugh at their tattered credibility.


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