Study: Republicans lie more.

Next they’ll conduct a study to determine if fire is hot.

While this is by no means a badge of honor for the Democrats, it’s an absolute indictment on Republicans:

A new study from the nonpartisan Center For Media Affairs has concluded that since the beginning of President Obama’s second term, Republicans have lied three times more often than Democrats.

The Center For Media Affairs (CFMA) at George Mason University found that PolitiFact rated Republican claims as false three times more often than Democratic claims. Not only do Republicans lie more often, but Democrats are more truthful. By a 2 to 1 margin (22%-11%) PolitiFact rated Democratic statements as completely true. The CFMA also found that, “A majority of Democratic statements (54%) were rated as mostly or entirely true, compared to only 18% of Republican statements. Conversely, a majority of Republican statements (52%) were rated as mostly or entirely false, compared to only 24% of Democratic statements. Despite controversies over Obama administration statements regarding Benghazi, the IRS and the Associated Press, Republicans have continued to fare worse than Democrats, with 60% of their claims rated as false so far this month (May 1 – May 22), compared to 29% of Democratic statements – a 2 to 1 margin.”

On this surface the fact that Republicans lie more than Democrats may appear obvious, but beyond the numbers this study confirms that lying is a major component of Republican political strategy.

Initially I took confirmation that the GOP lies more to be a continuation of the uplifting news day trend.  Then I realized that, Democrat or Republican, we pay them to to lie to us.  Personally, I think the money would’ve been better spent on pop-tarts.

  • islandbrewer

    Obviously, the study was funded by George Soros and the Muslim Brotherhood and is full of evil liberal communist lies and spin in order to forward the homosexual agenda and engage in more persecution of patriotic god-fearing christians who are a minority in this country.

    … so they can murder the unborn.

  • baal

    And politifact isn’t necessarily even handed in its analysis (maddow hits them for it now and again).

  • http://www.facebook.com/rachel.kandefer Rachel Kandefer

    I agree, it would have been better spent on pop-tarts, and I don’t eat pop-tarts.

  • Jasper

    That’s what you get from a party who’s driven by the “Ends Justifies the Means” mentality that also drives the “Lying for Jesus” phenomenon

  • Glodson

    On this surface the fact that Republicans lie more than Democrats may appear obvious, but beyond the numbers this study confirms that lying is a major component of Republican political strategy.

    It isn’t that lying is a major component of their strategy, it is that reality is entirely uncooperative with their narrative.

    • Zinc Avenger

      You need to care what happens in reality to lie about it. The Republican approach has more in common with collaborative storytelling, a role-playing game, or, in advanced stages of the condition, free association.

      It seems unfair to judge such creative souls on their adherence to or divergence from reality. Where would we be if we insisted on verifiability for, say, songwriters? They’re just plying their craft.

  • 23cal

    Surprisingly, the CMPA that did the study is primarily funded by conservative foundations, and all of the criticisms of CMPA is that it lies to promote far right ideas. Who’da thunk it? http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Media_and_Public_Affairs

    • unbound55

      Which is why the conclusion of the study is that PolitiFact has strong liberal bias. Politicalusa mis-represented the study.

  • Ders

    I feel so disenfranchised. I hate that the republican party has been hijacked by the religious right and big companies, but I don’t particularly agree with the economic policies of the democratic party. I feel like I’m represented by nobody.

    • Zinc Avenger

      An oft-overlooked side-effect of what happens when one party in a two-party system goes batshit fucking insane.

      • Ders

        Yeah, but my point is different: just because the Republicans are batshit fucking insane does not means that the Democrats are right about everything. It’s my hope that a quasi-libertarian party emerges in the next twenty years that has left leaning social policies with right leaning fiscal policies that don’t just abandon the misfortunate. Is that too much to ask from the world?

        • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

          I think it’s pretty likely, though by no means certain.

          I wouldn’t vote for them, almost certainly, being of the Democratic Socialist persuasion myself (if we had a Socialist party, I’d probably vote for that one. Or a Green party.) I could respect a quasi-libertarian party, though, as honest and legitimate opposition.

          • Ders

            That’s just wrong. Sorry. The fact that Democrats are right about abortion rights, gay rights, marijuana, and science education does not mean they are right about taxation, insurance rates, and government spending. No offense, but increase your skepticism and rationality sir.

          • Loqi

            …I don’t even know what to say here. I’ll just go with “sir.”

          • Ders

            I’m just saying going left for everything isn’t the answer. Evaluate every issue independently. If you think that taxing the top couple percent as much as you can is the answer you’ll find that the top couple percent will leave or find a way to avoid it. There’s a balance to be had.

          • Loqi

            …but she didn’t say anything contra to that. She never asserted that the Democrats are right about everything. Increase your reading comprehension, sir.

          • Loqi

            (No offense, of course)

          • Ders

            She did actually. She said “it’s likely true”.

          • Loqi

            She said it’s unlikely that there will be a quasi-libertarian party such as you described. That’s not the same thing as saying “Democrats are right about everything.”

          • Nate Frein

            Who said anything about “taxing as much as you can”?

            How about “paying a fair share”?

            A business owner benefits far more from infrastructure than the employees. The owner benefits far more from public education providing skilled labor than the individual laborer. The owner benefits far more from a health care system that keeps the employees healthy than the individual workers do.

          • Ders

            Whoa…I’m just saying I disagree with Democrats too. Easy people.

          • Loqi

            And what does your response have to do with anything *she* said? What is “just wrong?” Her saying she would vote for a socialist candidate? I don’t think you’re in any position that she’s incorrect in that statement.

          • Ders

            “I think it’s pretty likely” is wrong. That is not true.

          • Guest

            Are you going to refute it?

            From my point of view, the Republican party is imploding. This is exactly the kind of situation which has led to a new third party ascending to second party status.

          • Loqi

            It’s untrue that it’s likely there won’t be a party like that? Such a party hasn’t ever existed in the history of ever. If something hasn’t happened in thousands of years of human government, I’d categorize that under “unlikely.”

          • islandbrewer

            Personally, I don’t think it’s not untrue that it’s not unlikely that no such a party may or may not won’t arise under such circumstances, no?

          • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

            You think it’s unlikely a Libertarian party will arise out of the imploded remains of the Republican party? But you just said you hoped it would happen in the next twenty years, implying you thought it could happen.

          • Ders

            I hope it’s true.

          • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

            1) Ma’am. Feminerd. Feminist nerd. Not sir. Men can be feminists too, of course, but most wouldn’t take that as a handle.

            2) I disagree. I consider myself a highly skeptical and rational person, but I find libertarianism morally suspect and empirically flawed. Thus, the agree-to-disagree on that and the need for compromise based on empirical evidence of what programs work and fail. I, myself, am rather fond of labor and safety regulations, environmental regulations, minimum wages, protection of common goods, public roads, public schools, a solid social safety net, and a less unequal society (enforced in part by a highly progressive income tax), among other things. We’ve seen how the world works with and without them- I like the “with” version better, so I work towards that. You clearly disagree- that’s fine. We’ve examined the evidence and come to different conclusions. However, to attack my empiricism, logic, skepticism, and rationality for daring to disagree with you is quite unacceptable.

          • Ders

            Sorry about the gender thing. My bad. I am for some of the things you are for, but I do not agree with all. The problem I had was with you “it’s likely” conclusion. That is not true. If you feel your opinions are justified, that’s cool. It is not true that if Republicans are wrong about social issues, they are wrong about fiscal ones.

            You just set a bunch of fires so I’ll deal with one: minimum wage: I would love for everyone to make more, but resources are limited. It’s not true that raising the minimum wage helps people. In an ideal world, it would but in reality it raises unemployment. It helps employed people and hurts unemployed people. I don’t think either party is entirely “right”. I just think that democrats can get too populistic. Helping people sounds good, but it’s not without cost. There are many ways to accomplish similar goals.

          • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

            See below, but the “it’s likely” comment was to the Republican party imploding and a Libertarian party rising to take its place. You know, the thing you want to happen? I think it’s fairly likely to happen.

          • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

            You’re confusing me a lot. Of course Republicans don’t have to be wrong about everything. I just happen to think they are. You disagree and think they’re right on economic issues. I don’t know how you got the idea that I’d somehow rejected everything Republican just because of the label- that would be silly. I rejected it because, after thinking it over, I thought it was wrong.

            And I don’t think the Democrats are right either! I’m further to the left, by far, of the Democratic party. I just think they’re more right :)

          • Ders

            Sorry the conversation is hard to follow with the comment structure. We’re good. I have a Swedish heritage and I saw them go too far left for a time. I’ve seen the downsides. There’s a balance to be had and I think both parties are too intent upon changing everything when some things are working well.

  • Baby_Raptor

    S’mores poptart is best poptart.

    Well, second best. They used to have this awesome white chocolate one, but I never see it anymore. Poptarts, oddly, are the only thing I can stand white chocolate in.

  • unbound55

    Unfortunately, the politicalusa.com site is twisting what the CMPA study actually said. The CMPA study (as John Eberhard pointed out) is a highly conservative group. If you look at their study (http://www.cmpa.com/media_room_press_05_28_13.html), you’ll find that they studied how PolitiFact is a horribly biased organization which only confirmed their earlier study.

    They weren’t reporting that they found Republicans to lie more often, only that the liberal media gave the election to Obama (essentially).


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